High Value Data Elements
To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4,
2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline
Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the
ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information
already collected in the ESTA application.
The high value data fields include:
a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
f. Family member dates of birth;
g. Family member places of birth;
h. Family member residencies;
i. Biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.
65 Comments
kokesh@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 239d
At this point why would anyone from civilized world even want to visit the ex-colonies?
RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 239d
Hey, what did Canada do? Or eTA isn't even as invasive as the EU's proposed ETIAS, and certainly nothing approaching the anal-probe-level personal violations of the ESTA. And we need tourism. The US is fucking our economy in a massive way.
r_se_random@sh.itjust.works · -53 pts · 239d
L take brother.
tym@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 239d
r_se_random@sh.itjust.works · -15 pts · 239d
Lol?
Calling Europe the "civilzed world" and referring to other places as "ex-colonies" has deeply racist undertones. I am sorry that calling this out can only be seen as "ruzzian bots" by the folks in this community, especially when I have no sympathy for russia 😅.
I guess this place ia truly becoming like reddit now. Where people downvote shit without understanding it.
tym@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 239d
otp@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 239d
I think the problem was that you wrote a comment that wasn't understandable
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 75 pts · 239d
Every other country should apply the same list on US citizens.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 239d
Or just ban US citizens. Fuck them.
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 239d
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
The people trying to escape are not the ones you should be angry at. Those are often the first people sent to the camps.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 238d
The people trying to escape should be the people trying to fight. If there are camps, you done fucked up large. Time to fix yo shit or die trying.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 13 pts · 239d
Don't be like your enemy, be better;
USA citizens did nothing wrong (beside voting trump but it's not all of them ofc)
Edit: i don't understand why y'all want to punish every citizen of USA, even those that did not voted trump or those that are actively agains him and do protests
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 11 pts · 239d
It's like saying Russian people did nothing wrong besides voting for Putin, but it's not all of them ofc.
SARGE@startrek.website · 12 pts · 239d
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 6 pts · 239d
I am saying that not all USA citizens voted trump so they shouldn't be punished for that, it's like if i suddently decide to ban all german people from my country because of hitler, it just make no sense at all
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 239d
So maybe other countries should require US citizens to submit their last five years of social media history so they can block any maga idiots. ;-)
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 239d
Expect that's exactly what should happen. If the people don't rise up to fix the shit thats happening then they are complicit.
The germans fought back just as much as the stupid ones helped during hitlers reign.
Till the American people actually start fucking doing something. Then guess fucking what.
Punish everyone.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 239d
In both cases, the war machine will become weaker if it's easier for the smart ones to leave.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 239d
Not it isn't. 80% =/= 35%
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 239d
Yep and the ones traveling internationally probably didn't vote for Trump but idiots love to downvote a good point.
a4ng3l@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
That parenthetical does a lot of lifting in there…
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 239d
Lol be better got you Trump.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 239d
Noz horrible campaigning and racists got us trump
RalfWausE@feddit.org · 1 pts · 239d
ripcord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 239d
I didn't vote Trump
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 239d
Do protests? Oh good here I thought they were doing absolutely nothing.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 239d
Collective punishment is the only way to stop stupid from putting stupid in power.
We the people picked this. Even the ones that didn't. Everyone is equally at fault no matter what or the circumstances.
That's the very fucking definition of democracy.
We all get to enjoy the benefits when we do well and we all get punished when we fuck up. We arent a dictatorship. We can't just blame our government for sucking.
The people ARE at fault.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 10 pts · 239d
But not ALL the people, many didn't voted trump and many are doing protests/manifestations, not ALL people are fault.
Doing that shit of punishing everyone who is citizen in USA is so fucking stupid and childish
Techranger@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 237d
The USA is functionally an oligarchy, not a democracy. The groups with the most money hold untoward amounts of explicit and implicit power. Moneyed business interests own and control entire political parties, media outlets, financial institutions, etc.
It is truly terrifying to comprehend the breadth and depth of the dystopia that has roots in corporate greed. Modern pervasive surveillance technology implemented by the commercial sector worldwide makes real-time identification of dissent trivially easy. Laws may exist on paper to protect and empower citizens, but if corruption overrides accountability to those laws then functionally the government is authoritarian.
The average citizen in any oligarchy has very little influence or power over their government.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 239d
Why would we want US citizens data to begin with? Waste of storage
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 0 pts · 238d
For them to feel the pain.
scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 239d
If we did this to the Republican party I wonder how many rape cases would be solved.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 11 pts · 239d
None when they run things.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 239d
Solved, not prosecuted.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 55 pts · 239d
It's the fascist populist playbook in action again
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 239d
A lot of that list is just info I don't have. I don't even know most of my family's current number, you expect the past?
The IP one is hilarious. I've likely had hundreds of IPs in the last 5 years, and I don't know any of them. Would you just send a range of potential options or do they expect me to know and write out hundreds of IP addresses? The total range of every carrier I've used in the last 5 years?
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net · 37 pts · 239d
I've had the same IP address forever: 127.0.0.1.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 239d
Cool, mine is 192.168.0.1!
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
Looks familiar. Are you a spy?
vividspecter@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 239d
Me too, ::1
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 239d
I used to be a 10.1.1.1 but I've been mobile hotspot exclusive for years now and I have no fucking clue what internal IP my phone uses
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 11 pts · 239d
Something in that range.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 239d
I would guess your average person couldn't tell you what an IP address is.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 239d
Ummm... I'm pretty sure it's 255.255.255.0 ? ...or maybe it's .256...
No wait, it's [ABCD::EFGH]
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 239d
I wonder how will they react if I say that I don't have any social media accounts.
But I guess I'll keep wondering since my interest on going to that shithole has been plummetting for the last 20 years and right now is at below zero levels.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 239d
There is zero chance I could accurately provide this information to anyone, none of my family members could, because they don't know the phone numbers I've had... All around it sounds like a shit idea.
jojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 239d
It's an attempt on intimidation, because supposedly for the person travelling it's a lose-lose:
All around it's a humiliation and intimidation exercise
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 239d
It’s a protectionist policy. This is designed to keep people from entering as not many will want to give out the required.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 239d
Well, it was signed by Shitler, so what would you expect.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 239d
ESTA?
Everyone Stay Thefuck Away?
gigachad@piefed.social · 29 pts · 239d
It's ok, I'll just do vacation somewhere else.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 239d
Translation: Musk said "Here, sign this and then we go to McDonald's!" and Trump was like "ALL RIGHT!"
rubdos@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 239d
Email adresses is gonna be fun with my catch all.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 7 pts · 239d
Jdscouchstain@gmail.com EpsteinServicedTrump@yahoo.com FDJT_withputinscok@excite.com
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
If you spin up a custom server you can really have fun with it
devolution@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 239d
Well we can't say it's just Trump only hates darkies. I am of the opinion Trump wants to destroy the world as revenge for his dying.
alisdairmills@europe.pub · 11 pts · 239d
Aren’t all EU countries on the list of visa free - waived ESTA requirements countries ? Thought that was the case? Or has that been reversed?
NochMehrG@feddit.org · 11 pts · 239d
AFAIK that’s still the case. But that has always included the requirement to fill out a form, providing some information. I remember things like „are you a terrorist“ and such. So it has just been extended a little.
Mihies@programming.dev · 4 pts · 239d
Yes, I wonder why that "are you a terrorist" question isn't enough for them.
20cello@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 239d
No it's not,because they realised that NO was the answer a real terrorist would have given
Visstix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 239d
Damn, they're smart.
Mihies@programming.dev · 2 pts · 239d
So just throw all that confirmed NO to Guantanamo. There, problem solved.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
Lying on that form is a crime. The purpose is to actually have a crime committed if they later find you're affiliated with Al Qaeda.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 239d
Yeah, this data is requested in addition to existing data already requested in ESTA application
nokama@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
No. Romania, for example, is not. It was announced in January that we would enter the program but then they removed us in June.
https://www.niskanencenter.org/romania-was-removed-from-the-visa-waiver-program-heres-what-it-can-do-to-reverse-this/
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 238d
None of this will ever be used maliciously in any way shape or form, and it will all be stored in a secure, air gapped server
/s
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 239d
Get fucked
Osan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 239d
mfw I don't know most of the required information.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -9 pts · 239d
Misleading title. Post makes it sound like all data is requires. Low effort.