cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40650676
Women’s rights are on a sharp decline in Israel.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/24/middleeast/israel-womens-rights-netanyahu-intl-cmd
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/24/middleeast/israel-womens-rights-netanyahu-intl-cmd
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40650676
83 Comments
ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org · 181 pts · 268d
you're telling me this ethnostate is discriminating against people??
hayvan@piefed.world · 9 pts · 268d
I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
thejml@sh.itjust.works · 106 pts · 268d
Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 80 pts · 268d
Once they’ve killed all the Palestinians and journalists, the IDF will need someone new to shoot
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 268d
You joke but this is why fascism isn’t sustainable. You always need a scapegoat and eventually your gonna run out of them as you make your population more and more uniform.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 267d
No you don't run-out:
Factionalism will always provide more "enemies" for that-Way.
"Corps Business: the 30 Management Principles of the US Marines" identified something in our nature, in 1 of the principles:
IF you just keep accumulating people, in say a village, or orgnaization, there is a point around 150-people, where factionalism sets-in.
Al Gore & Associates ( Goretex ) intentionally limits the parking-lot size, so that when it's visible that there are now enough people working at a site, that some are parking on the lawn, then they need another site.
Militaries all 'round the world have a 150-person "company" or equivalent, but not a 200-person one..
Even if some rabid ideology exterminates all "others", then it'll fractally divide-up & begin its civil-war, because factionalism is intrinsic to our unconscious-minds..
That'd be true for all except people who trained to dismantle unconscious-narcissism from their unconscious-mind's ruling-of-their-life..
& nobody I've encountered has earned that, except perhaps the Society of Believers ( the Shakers ) community it the US ( @ Sabbath Day Lake, iirc: Christians: they identify that THE primary cause of people not-staying is "too much community" ).
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Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 267d
Yup. Fascism's ideal end state is two blond guys arguing over who's the whiter one.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 265d
While I don't disagree with you, that isn't at all what he said.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 266d
Im the greyest and blobbyiest!
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 22 pts · 268d
I'm sure they're efficient enough that they can start shooting new groups before they're completely finished the previous groups.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 268d
When they're done raping all the women and young girls of Palestine, they'll turn their rape spree onto Israeli women and young girls.
I wonder how all these pick me bitches openly supporting the IDF will twist the narrative for it.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 268d
This is unsurprising.
Israel is not known for their love of human rights.
DoctorPress@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 268d
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 35 pts · 268d
So all three major religions want to make the lives of women more difficult.
Who'd have thought.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 268d
I don't know that I'd include judaism on a list of "three major religions." Hinduism and buddhism have much better claims on being in the top three.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 268d
In terms of numbers then yes.
But in terms of disproportionate influence then no.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 267d
Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 267d
Other way around but yea
OppaGundamStyle@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 268d
You’re not calling Judaism a major religion are you?
Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, have billions of followers each. Judaism has a few million.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 268d
It has influence disproportionate to the number of followers. (But Hinduism and Buddhism should be ahead of it anyway, this is a very Western perspective)
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
Most Jews in Israel are Atheists.
beernutz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 268d
Most surveys suggest that roughly 15-25% of Jewish Israelis do not believe in God or describe themselves as atheists or convinced non‑believers, depending on wording and methodology.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 267d
Zionism is the abandonment of the Torah by saying the Messiah will lead the Jews to the promises land and instead doing it themselves.
"God" for Israelis means "Jewish people". They are their own God.
beernutz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 265d
One person VS. Multiple Surveys regarding the original claim that "most" are not religious.
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 268d
The three Abrahamic religions? ...weird they all worship the same god by different names.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 268d
Yet the majority of the world are bootlicking israel
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 268d
Leadershit maybe, but the general public seems to have had enough.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
But the leaders are elected by the people and foreign conflict with always comes after domestic affairs like the economy
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 268d
Large parts of the world don't have fair elections, or elections at all.
Also, yes people vote on domestic affairs first. Doesn't mean they support the foreign policy, just that it is a lower priority. We typically don't have "if all else was equal" in voting decisions.
Or we have situations like in the U.S. where both sides are in on the bootlicking. One side may go further than the other, but both choices are bad in this regard.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
If the population keep voting for those type of leaders there is zero reasons for them to care about Palestine and listen to people. The only way is voting them out of the system and we sre in a very critical time where Gaza may cease to exists in few years. Time is running out
hayvan@piefed.world · 2 pts · 268d
Leadershit are the ones making the difference right now. People's sentiment mean nothing unless they hold their leaders responsible. People are dying right now and still no action is being taken.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 268d
Yeah, that'll happen in a patriarchal theocracy.
hayvan@piefed.world · 32 pts · 268d
You mean fascists don't respect human lives? But muh LGBT equals! Muh only democracy in the region!
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 29 pts · 268d
But I thought that we (U.S. people) were supposed to support them because they are a champion of democracy and human rights.
I'm calling bullshit.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 268d
What have either the US or Israel got to do with democracy or human rights nowadays, anyway?
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 268d
Depends on who's trying to say they're good ones
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 268d
Most moral society now!
mirshafie@europe.pub · 27 pts · 268d
I don't doubt that Israel is backsliding on women's rights, but this "Women, Peace and Security Index" has got to be bullshit.
They have a bunch of parameters that try to capture the situation of women, and I'm sure that can be useful to gauge which way the wind is blowing for a single country, but it gets kinda ridiculous when Saudi Arabia gets a much better score than Turkey, China, India, Brazil, Iran, and Mexico.
Just a reminder that women were not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia until 2018.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 267d
63-million women genocided ( when newborn, all the way to husbands burning-to-death their wives, from what I'd read in other stuff, through past years ) proves that India isn't protecting women's lives..
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/news/2024/4/why_are_millions_of_women_missing_in_india/
There's another article here on lemmy.world/c/world that was posted recently, about how now women are allowed to drive, in Saudi Arabia, but the regime is exterminating criticism, through executions.
The truth is hidden-in-the-murk, unfortunately..
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ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 267d
Hey everybody, this guy thinks he knows better than The Experts!
mirshafie@europe.pub · 3 pts · 267d
First of all they use the same model for all countries, so it's not unexpected that it's not perfect. I'm sure they would be happy to explain this to you themselves if you asked them.
But just to be clear, if an expert explicitly claimed that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is safer for women than Turkey, then they're drunk and need to go home.
pokexpert30@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 267d
If the experts claimed an helicopter crash is perfectly normal and a better outcome than a normal landing, I don't need to know to pilot to be able to tell they're full of bullshit.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 267d
I have a feeling Women’s Rights are in a decline globally.
just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 267d
Womencs rights will decline if it serves the ruling class.
When women were not in workforce, our rulers were pro-contraceptives and abortion. So women would enter workforce and which would increase worker competition and decrease wages. Today when people are not having kids, and its starting to threaten the ruler's workforce, they are now against abortions and contraceptives.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 267d
Not all countries claim that they care about women rights though. Those who claim they are but practically they are not are worse
cabillaud@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 267d
Do you have an example of a country telling that they don't care about woman rights?
melfie@lemy.lol · 25 pts · 267d
just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 267d
Humans have also created so many problems for humanity
Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 266d
And what guise did those problems come in?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 266d
Roman Pagans were famously awful for women's rights. And the New Atheist movement is full of sex pests on both sides of the Atlantic.
Toxic Masculinity exists independently of religious doctrine
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 268d
The sky is blue, water makes things wet, blood is red.
Just saying things that are obvious, don't mind me.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 268d
I am pretty sure sky is blue deniers exists
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 268d
There is the whole myth that ancient people couldn't see the colour blue. But that was because they didn't have a distinct word for it that didn't include other shades like purple.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 268d
Well, the sky isn't objectively blue, it just appears so to us.
Mac@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 268d
Isn't that everything?
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 268d
I think, technically speaking due to Rayleigh Scattering and the nature of our sun, the sky wouldn't be blue if it weren't for the composition of our atmosphere — if I'm remembering correctly. So the sky could potentially be a different color with a different atmosphere, or at least we would perceive it that way (we are also sensitive to the color blue, so it is easier to see).
Idk, this has led to many more questions than I anticipated. I guess if you're very strict about the light not being a part of the atmosphere due to scattering then it is not blue. Other factors like clouds, fog, smog, obviously play a part.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 267d
I can't understand why Rayleigh Scattering is presumed to be the only reason our sky is blue.
Oxygen's blue!
Isn't there enough oxygen in our atmosphere to affect its apparent-color??
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theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 268d
John Kerry warned that Israel can be Jewish, large, democratic, pick two. They picked Jewish and large. Now leopards are coming for faces.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 267d
Well yeah. Bigotry doesn't limit itself, never has, never will.
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 268d
Fascism does hate wömen, after all
Predalien@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 268d
Men of Wö?
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 268d
Exactly, bröther
Tetragrade@leminal.space · 16 pts · 268d
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 267d
Well when a country decides to go all in on religion...
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 12 pts · 268d
Wow, I didn't expect bad people to be bad people 😮
dan69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
they are baddies??
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 3 pts · 268d
Only if you consider genocide and misogyny a bad thing I guess?
dan69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 267d
💯
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 2 pts · 267d
Then they're so bad!
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 268d
Well, the exact same happens in murica. If you partner with ultra religious people, this is the bullshit that'll happen.
RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 267d
unsurprising
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 267d
Israel is currently on an absolutely bloodthirsty genocide bender right about now. The fact that it doesn’t give two shits about women’s rights is quite a bit further down the priority list from where it doesn’t give two shits about life in general, and is violently unaliving most everyone not like them in the region
Pretty ironic, actually.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 267d
Actually it was always a bloodthirthy genocidal state
flandish@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 268d
who is surprised? they’re inhuman nazis treating people like trash.
assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 268d
Make a fascist society, get fascist society problems.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 8 pts · 268d
https://archive.ph/CXUis
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 268d
I mean I get that's bad, and it's definitely a sign of civilization regressing, and with each step backwards, we continue to inch towards the day where we finally topple any evidence of progress that has been built, and we're lucky if we can even hold it together enough to emerge from the ashes of modern society as feral bands of mud people with some chance of perhaps one day making it back to this same point in another 2000 years or so.
But, is the "loss of women's rights" perhaps offset by the privilege of knowing that even if you lose your rights, you can still be shitty to people of a different ethnicity without concern of public judgment or accountability for your shitty behavior? And if so, isn't that what freedom is all about?
Paragone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 267d
That is what national-narcissism is about, certainly..
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Paragone@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 267d
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2024.2445637#abstract
Males bullying females is the "wedge" that they use to get far-right totalitarianism's basis in..
It's consistent, through different cultures, & it may be hardwired in our limbic system: bullying women is the basis for male-fascism-totalitarianism.
Counter it XOR fail the Great Filter, humankind..
Having-exterminated-ourselves is a "valid" choice, in Universe's Natural Selection's eyes..
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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 268d
Yeah, cause socialist zionists dominated political power during that period. As racist as they were towards Palestinians, equality was increasing. That's not the ideological reality today.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 268d
Leopards Eating Punim
Psythik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 268d
I literally could not care less. Get fucked, Isreal. You voted for this.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 267d
Right wing government dislikes womens rights, more at 11.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 267d
makes sense tbh.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 267d
Reminder to all Americans in this thread, to go fix your damn dumpster fire, you guys are worse. Let the rest of us deal with Israel, you guys shut up and fix your shit.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · -4 pts · 268d
Not gonna shed too many tears over this.