This dude got his start by eating bugs and wrestling men in his underwear. If you consider Joe Rogan manly you are ripe for his grift being the only life on earth dumber than him.
To convince Joe you have to say that the thing is a conspiracy theory(ex mrna vaccines) and get someone that is shunned/dismissed from a community for being a crackpot(ex: an anti vax doctor).
It makes Joe feel like he is part of an exclusive club of people who know the "real" truth.
Well, when the rich and powerful control everything, yes. But I don't think it's just humanity anymore, I think a lot of life will have to adapt to the destruction of the planet. And if they don't, they just die off.
I feel like the current iteration of Joe Rogan is from the mirror universe. I remember when he was just a pretty chill stoner comedian who literally told people not to listen to him about science or politics because he doesn't actually know shit. Like, he used to be self-aware.
First, it is debated whether he was born to a virgin mother and it is certainly not settled. He was born without sin according to Catholics which is known as the immaculate conception. This is WAY above Jorgan's head.
A computer is virgin? Where in the fuck does this dunce believe this to be true. It is a nonsensical statement.
If Jesus did return he would come back as an AI!? Once again where the fuck does he get this from. Can Jesus come back as a couch and would Vance try and fuck him? Inquiring minds want to know Jorgan.
And then a statement that Jesus could definitely return as AI. I guess this is him trying to convince himself that it could happen. Straight up stupid.
The immaculate conception in Catholic doctrine actually refers to Mary being born without original sin. I think the idea is only a sinless woman could give birth to the son of God. But yeah, not like it makes any difference to Joe.
As I recall Jesus was not born to a virgin but rather a young mother. The Greek word used in the Septuagint was initially correctly translated but the Greek word used changed it’s meaning over time to mean virgin. The author of Mark did not understand this change and asserted she was a virgin because he incorrectly believed the promised Messiah in Issac was supposed to be born to a virgin.
Bart Erman just covered this recently on his “Misquoting Jesus” podcast.
Erman is a terrible scholar, for one. The other thing is that, for centuries, the Septuagint was used as the Bible. It wasn’t treated like a translation the way we do. It’s that, for a long time, the Bible was Greek. It had been Hebrew, then it was Greek, then around the 600s or so it was Hebrew again. That later Hebrew Bible is called the Masoretic Text and was the one chosen by Protestants for the Old Testament because, in their thinking, the Hebrew was older than the Greek. But they didn’t really consider the fact that the Masoretic Text is over a thousand years newer than the Septuagint (it being a reconstruction of the Hebrew Bible based on re-translating the Greek with the aid of the Samaritan Pentateuch, etc.). So the Septuagint used the Greek term for “virgin” which is the only reading the gospel writers would have known. The Masoretic Text translates the relevant Isaiah passage with a Hebrew word that means “maiden.” And there’s some argument out there that they did so in opposition to the Christian reading of the passage. There’s a really great book about this entitled When God Spoke Greek.
TL;DR, The “virgin” reading is accurate to the ancient understanding of the Isaiah passage because that was the only one they had at the time. The “maiden” reading is known to us from a Hebrew text that is at least 600 years more recent than the time of Jesus.
The better way to say it is let them believe he was born to a virgin. Which means he got no Y chromosome from a male sperm. So jesus born from two XX chromosomes, was not male, and also not white.
Isn't God the author of the whole Bible? Like isn't that the point? If you accept it's written by fallible men, how can you accept anything written at face value?
No, the books of the New Testament were written by people. I don't believe anyone mainstream maintains anything different. There could be a cult with dozens of followers who suggest this but no significant group holds the NT as being written by God directly.
Almost all Christian denominations do not hold a literal belief in the Bible as no Jewish sect maintains a literal view of their text eg everyone gets that Job is an allegory.
A literal take on the Bible is very much a recent creation of backwater folks in America. It isn’t common despite what the internet maintains. Roman Catholics still make up the vast majority of believers and they don’t hold this view.
I don't mean biblical literalism, but rather the belief that the Bible is divinely inspired and "true" in whichever context they deem important (pretty sure Catholics say it's true in matters of spirit or something like that).
200 years ago “cool” only referred to temperature or people who were unfriendly. The definitions if words can change over time and unless you understand the context they are used within you can misinterpret what the original text meant. What seems to have happened is something like this based partly on the fact that Jewish experts do not actually believe their messiah needs to be born to a virgin.
The person who wrote the Gospel made a mistake. This is one if the many reasons why most Christian denominations do not hold literal views on all aspect of the Bible.
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LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 108 pts · 217d
I don't like living in a world where I genuinely cannot tell if this is a real quote
TomMasz@piefed.social · 53 pts · 217d
Yeah, same here. I checked, and he did indeed say this (yt).
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 217d
Was just thinking the same thing. Why is Roe Jogan so far beyond parody?
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 217d
This isn't parody btw. He literally said this
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 217d
Poe's Law. Or maybe it's now Roe's law?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
Lol I didn't doubt it for a moment. You must be unfamiliar with the depths of Rogan's idiocy.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 217d
Still, it's always a 50/50 type situation; that's the trouble.
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 217d
I was definitely leaning towards real, which is already troubling
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 217d
I wish he only said weird silly pothead stuff like this.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 62 pts · 217d
We should rename the Dunning-Kruger Effect to the Joe Rogan Experience.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 217d
I unvirgined my computer by downloading a lot of fetish porn and hentai onto it.
Lysergid@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 217d
I’m so confused how all these “manly men” seeking for lord to submit to.
frizzo@piefed.social · 31 pts · 217d
This dude got his start by eating bugs and wrestling men in his underwear. If you consider Joe Rogan manly you are ripe for his grift being the only life on earth dumber than him.
django@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 217d
What else do you wear while wrestling though?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Strap-on
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 217d
As a child they put his swing to close to the wall.
I envy people that don't know him.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
Because the Right is getting more radical and no longer allows atheists. So they're having to get with the program or be called leftist cucks.
I'm hoping this backfires and scares the normies
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 29 pts · 217d
Remember, proportionally more of your Spotify subscription dollars go directly to him instead of the musical artists you are listening too.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 217d
People giving Spotify too much fuckin money
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 216d
I repost this often because it stays true.
dmalteseknight@programming.dev · 12 pts · 216d
To convince Joe you have to say that the thing is a conspiracy theory(ex mrna vaccines) and get someone that is shunned/dismissed from a community for being a crackpot(ex: an anti vax doctor).
It makes Joe feel like he is part of an exclusive club of people who know the "real" truth.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 216d
Except the barbarian Khan actually had accomplishments. Rogan just asks stupid questions.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 21 pts · 217d
I genuinely wanna hear the reasoning if there’s true believers out there buying into this shit.
I mean granted, they did sell em the ol orange carsalesman pdf as president.
Humanity is fucked isn’t it?
ameancow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 217d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 217d
Leaving Joe Rogan aside, I remember the case of one Google employee who believed that their AI programs had reached sentience (and god-like status?). So, yes.
qaz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
People think he's smart. I think some people want him to be right because they identify more with him, and he says some of the same things they think.
We're genetically 96% identical to chimpanzees, considering that, we're not doing too bad
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
Well, when the rich and powerful control everything, yes. But I don't think it's just humanity anymore, I think a lot of life will have to adapt to the destruction of the planet. And if they don't, they just die off.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 217d
Grifter says outrageous things for clicks and engagement.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 217d
"What's more virgin than a computer?"
Um. Yes, Joe. It's takes like these your audience loves you for.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 216d
He's like the broken clock.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 217d
Joe Rogan Speechless When Guest Tells Him Podcasts Can Be AI-Generated Now
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 14 pts · 217d
So what I'm getting from this is that Joe tried to stick his dick in his computer, got zapped, and decided that meant it was impossible to fuck.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 14 pts · 217d
I mean how could we be the creator of the return of the son of God ?
The real question moving forward is this: can Joe Rogan become sentient ?
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 217d
I can guarantee Joe Rogans computer isn't a virgin.
prex@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 217d
Joe believes in ghosts right?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 217d
God he's so fucking stupid
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
I listened to him for a few episodes, and eventually said this out loud, then stopped.
thekerker@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 217d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 217d
I feel like the current iteration of Joe Rogan is from the mirror universe. I remember when he was just a pretty chill stoner comedian who literally told people not to listen to him about science or politics because he doesn't actually know shit. Like, he used to be self-aware.
StaticFalconar@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 217d
This is totally in line with stoner thoughts
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
how could their thoughts be real if their prayers aren't?
Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 216d
AI bros literally trying to create the Antichrist
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 216d
My computer is NOT a virgin >:)
InnerScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 216d
Didn't know USB was that universal
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 215d
My magnum dong needs a VGA
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 216d
I'm afraid to ask how.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 215d
Coward
Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 217d
He definitely knows that AI is NOT virgin
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 216d
First, it is debated whether he was born to a virgin mother and it is certainly not settled. He was born without sin according to Catholics which is known as the immaculate conception. This is WAY above Jorgan's head.
A computer is virgin? Where in the fuck does this dunce believe this to be true. It is a nonsensical statement.
If Jesus did return he would come back as an AI!? Once again where the fuck does he get this from. Can Jesus come back as a couch and would Vance try and fuck him? Inquiring minds want to know Jorgan.
And then a statement that Jesus could definitely return as AI. I guess this is him trying to convince himself that it could happen. Straight up stupid.
GandalftheBlack@feddit.org · 5 pts · 216d
The immaculate conception in Catholic doctrine actually refers to Mary being born without original sin. I think the idea is only a sinless woman could give birth to the son of God. But yeah, not like it makes any difference to Joe.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 217d
As I recall Jesus was not born to a virgin but rather a young mother. The Greek word used in the Septuagint was initially correctly translated but the Greek word used changed it’s meaning over time to mean virgin. The author of Mark did not understand this change and asserted she was a virgin because he incorrectly believed the promised Messiah in Issac was supposed to be born to a virgin.
Bart Erman just covered this recently on his “Misquoting Jesus” podcast.
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 217d
Erman is a terrible scholar, for one. The other thing is that, for centuries, the Septuagint was used as the Bible. It wasn’t treated like a translation the way we do. It’s that, for a long time, the Bible was Greek. It had been Hebrew, then it was Greek, then around the 600s or so it was Hebrew again. That later Hebrew Bible is called the Masoretic Text and was the one chosen by Protestants for the Old Testament because, in their thinking, the Hebrew was older than the Greek. But they didn’t really consider the fact that the Masoretic Text is over a thousand years newer than the Septuagint (it being a reconstruction of the Hebrew Bible based on re-translating the Greek with the aid of the Samaritan Pentateuch, etc.). So the Septuagint used the Greek term for “virgin” which is the only reading the gospel writers would have known. The Masoretic Text translates the relevant Isaiah passage with a Hebrew word that means “maiden.” And there’s some argument out there that they did so in opposition to the Christian reading of the passage. There’s a really great book about this entitled When God Spoke Greek.
TL;DR, The “virgin” reading is accurate to the ancient understanding of the Isaiah passage because that was the only one they had at the time. The “maiden” reading is known to us from a Hebrew text that is at least 600 years more recent than the time of Jesus.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
So my instinct to doubt Ehrman was correct
scala@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 217d
The better way to say it is let them believe he was born to a virgin. Which means he got no Y chromosome from a male sperm. So jesus born from two XX chromosomes, was not male, and also not white.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
Mary got what was needed from God so he could have had a very complex identity that his followers didn’t get.
scala@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 216d
So, you're confirming Jesus was trans. Born a woman, lived life as a man.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
He was intersex.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
Isn't God the author of the whole Bible? Like isn't that the point? If you accept it's written by fallible men, how can you accept anything written at face value?
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 216d
No, the books of the New Testament were written by people. I don't believe anyone mainstream maintains anything different. There could be a cult with dozens of followers who suggest this but no significant group holds the NT as being written by God directly.
Almost all Christian denominations do not hold a literal belief in the Bible as no Jewish sect maintains a literal view of their text eg everyone gets that Job is an allegory.
A literal take on the Bible is very much a recent creation of backwater folks in America. It isn’t common despite what the internet maintains. Roman Catholics still make up the vast majority of believers and they don’t hold this view.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
I don't mean biblical literalism, but rather the belief that the Bible is divinely inspired and "true" in whichever context they deem important (pretty sure Catholics say it's true in matters of spirit or something like that).
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
Sounds like another "Jesus Mythicism" or "Copied Osiris" myth that's been debunked 300 times
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 216d
200 years ago “cool” only referred to temperature or people who were unfriendly. The definitions if words can change over time and unless you understand the context they are used within you can misinterpret what the original text meant. What seems to have happened is something like this based partly on the fact that Jewish experts do not actually believe their messiah needs to be born to a virgin.
The person who wrote the Gospel made a mistake. This is one if the many reasons why most Christian denominations do not hold literal views on all aspect of the Bible.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 217d
The Gospel of HugeNerd 2:99 it's means it is
optissima@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 217d
"AI could absolutely return as Jesus" what? AI is already here why would it return?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 217d
Imma assume he meant "Jesus could absolutely return as AI"
optissima@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 217d
I refuse to give Joe Rogan any benefit of the doubt.
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 217d
"It's entirely possible."
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 216d
Coming from the LLM RP community:
They are, in fact, not virgins. Oh no, they're certainly not.
daannii@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 216d
Gop trying to make a god LLM that will tell people whatever they program it tell people. And people will believe it's God.
Like way too many people will absolutely believe it's God.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 217d
Isn't this just Merserism from Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 216d
Brought to you by Grock TM
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 217d
Praise the shareholders!
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
I think he is onto something. CEOs seem to have so much faith in AI that's it's pretty much a relgion now.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Still a moron
Shamber@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
He gots to tell us who's his plug is, that dude smokes som out of this world shit