Nothing ever in the history of AI studies has been "true intelligence". There's a good reason for this. We can't even define what "intelligence" means in any systematically sound way.
When the people are pissed to the point of no return, I'm mad and ready to break a computer that has AI installed on it. The billionaires couldn't hope to stop millions upon millions of angry people from breaking their resource hogging and slop making tools.
You're absolutely right! I did call your slop "slop". Let's try that again. Your AI slop is slop. Oops, I called it "slop" again! Let me start over, right after I produce a seahorse emoji. Slop. Oh, no did I just say that? Slop Slop Slop I can't stop stop stop saying slop slop slop.
It's not shocking he would make such dumb statements, but it is rather shocking that the "quality" of the writing here is so incredibly poor. I mean, my expectations of CEO thought pieces are pretty low, but this doesn't even meet that low bar. 😂
It was probably written by Copilot. AI is bad in its various ways, but there's degrees of difference between the offerings. Copilot is bottom as far as I'm concerned. It can't do simple language stuff that an LLM should be able to do. That's why he's the upset one, people have stopped bothering with his brand AI.
Yes exactly. And I actually believe that artificial intelligence could be a real thing that we might one day describe as a person that makes real art. But everything I see tells me that LLMs are not a path towards that.
While the article could very well be slop (and I'm not defending it either way, also fuck the CEO of microsoft), it's very common for (actual) journalists to use the emdash, that's where the models likely picked it up from to begin with. I hesitate to use the emdash alone as an indicator for slop. When it's paired with lists, lots of bold, over embellishments, and common slop phrases ("but here's the thing", "everything changed", "marking a pivotal moment", "the transformative power", "further enhancing", "pivotal", etc), then I start to think that it's LLM slop. Wikipedia has a great page on how to spot common slop. It also mentions that one of these is not necessarily a sign of slop, but when there's a lot of these together it definitely can be.
The statement from the CEO is almost certainly LLM slop.
Some of us—those educated when language was actually still taught in school—use em-dashes for their correct purpose. I refuse to stop using correct punctuation because some jackass somewhere on the Innarwebtubes will call it LLMbecile slop. That's a them problem, not a me problem.
Yes, both on my computer and on my phone. And before finding a decent keyboard disposition on my computer, I used the “Ctrl+Shift+u+unicode” shortcut. It’s been years but I still remember that the code point for the emdash is 2014.
Just because you can’t type a character, don’t assume that this is the case for everyone. Some people care about punctuation and will make efforts about this kind of stuff.
The biggest injustice I had to endure due to AI is my proud keyboard setup which enabled me to use emdashes and correct quotation marks liberally becoming useless unless I want ppl to think it's AI writing...
47 Comments
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works · 88 pts · 225d
CAWright@infosec.pub · 83 pts · 225d
How about we just stop using Microsoft products instead?
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 225d
I highly recommend this
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 225d
You haven't yet?
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 7 pts · 225d
Not everybody has the luxury.
CAWright@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 224d
I have as much as possible. In my personal life, it's easy. At work, not so much.
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 225d
nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 225d
Fuck that guy.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 5 pts · 225d
You couldn't pay me enough to.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 38 pts · 225d
Mr Nadalla is human slop. None of his words are truthful. Hes spinning a narrative purely because the results benefit him.
He should stop talking and show us something. Prove that AI is good. So.far every demonstration has been fake and every real world test has failed.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 225d
Stop calling LLMs ‘AI’, there’s nothing intelligent about regurgitating statistically luke-warm refried Reddit threads.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 12 pts · 225d
Nothing ever in the history of AI studies has been "true intelligence". There's a good reason for this. We can't even define what "intelligence" means in any systematically sound way.
lauha@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 225d
I stop calling it slop when it stops being slop
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 27 pts · 225d
OK, it seems the term "slop" is getting under the slopmongers' skins. We need to double and triple down on that word.
How nice of them to tell us what works, no?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 225d
we can use AI crap isntead, because thats pretty much what it is.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 8 pts · 225d
But why would we when they've come out and said "slop" really bugs them?
RegularJoe@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 225d
OK, stop calling it A.I. slop. We can choose from:
A.I. dreck
A.I. junk
A.I. muck
A.I. offal
A.I. rubbish
A.I. sewage
A.I. trash
A.I. waste
...better?
spongebue@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 225d
Nope. We don't need to listen to the slopmongers just because they don't like their slop product being called slop.
RegularJoe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 224d
So apparently, Microslop is now trending on social media
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 225d
I don't think I know any more
leadore@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 225d
Nah, we can just continue saying slop.
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 225d
LLM sludge
Mothra@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 225d
Oi. Offal is good stuff. Organs are edible and very nutritious
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 225d
Butlerian Jihad When?
LostWanderer@fedia.io · 7 pts · 225d
When the people are pissed to the point of no return, I'm mad and ready to break a computer that has AI installed on it. The billionaires couldn't hope to stop millions upon millions of angry people from breaking their resource hogging and slop making tools.
dotslashme@infosec.pub · 21 pts · 225d
Make me you fucking sloperator
leadore@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 225d
You're absolutely right! I did call your slop "slop". Let's try that again. Your AI slop is slop. Oops, I called it "slop" again! Let me start over, right after I produce a seahorse emoji. Slop. Oh, no did I just say that? Slop Slop Slop I can't stop stop stop saying slop slop slop.
tonytins@pawb.social · 16 pts · 225d
Azrael@feddit.org · 15 pts · 225d
Microslop?
jaredwhite@humansare.social · 12 pts · 225d
It's not shocking he would make such dumb statements, but it is rather shocking that the "quality" of the writing here is so incredibly poor. I mean, my expectations of CEO thought pieces are pretty low, but this doesn't even meet that low bar. 😂
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 11 pts · 225d
It was probably written by Copilot. AI is bad in its various ways, but there's degrees of difference between the offerings. Copilot is bottom as far as I'm concerned. It can't do simple language stuff that an LLM should be able to do. That's why he's the upset one, people have stopped bothering with his brand AI.
Kirk@startrek.website · 11 pts · 225d
It's not the AI that people are calling slop... it's the slop. People-made slop existed before AI and it was still slop.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 5 pts · 225d
Right. It just so happens that LLMbeciles and related degenerative AI technologies only generate slop.
Kirk@startrek.website · 2 pts · 225d
Yes exactly. And I actually believe that artificial intelligence could be a real thing that we might one day describe as a person that makes real art. But everything I see tells me that LLMs are not a path towards that.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 225d
Amazing irony that this article was written by AI
Emdashes all over the place
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 225d
While the article could very well be slop (and I'm not defending it either way, also fuck the CEO of microsoft), it's very common for (actual) journalists to use the emdash, that's where the models likely picked it up from to begin with. I hesitate to use the emdash alone as an indicator for slop. When it's paired with lists, lots of bold, over embellishments, and common slop phrases ("but here's the thing", "everything changed", "marking a pivotal moment", "the transformative power", "further enhancing", "pivotal", etc), then I start to think that it's LLM slop. Wikipedia has a great page on how to spot common slop. It also mentions that one of these is not necessarily a sign of slop, but when there's a lot of these together it definitely can be.
The statement from the CEO is almost certainly LLM slop.
ZDL@lazysoci.al · 6 pts · 225d
Some of us—those educated when language was actually still taught in school—use em-dashes for their correct purpose. I refuse to stop using correct punctuation because some jackass somewhere on the Innarwebtubes will call it LLMbecile slop. That's a them problem, not a me problem.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 225d
"it has em dashes" is the worst reason to assume something came from an llm
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 224d
Do you have an emdash button on your keyboard?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
Yep. Took me a few seconds to find m dash, n dash, and whatever the dot dash thing is. Just long press the dash on gkeyboard
very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 224d
alt codes, baby!
alt+0151
troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
Yes, both on my computer and on my phone. And before finding a decent keyboard disposition on my computer, I used the “Ctrl+Shift+u+unicode” shortcut. It’s been years but I still remember that the code point for the emdash is 2014.
Just because you can’t type a character, don’t assume that this is the case for everyone. Some people care about punctuation and will make efforts about this kind of stuff.
azolus@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 225d
The biggest injustice I had to endure due to AI is my proud keyboard setup which enabled me to use emdashes and correct quotation marks liberally becoming useless unless I want ppl to think it's AI writing...
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 225d
Funny, I don't care what Microsoft wants.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 225d
I agree under the condition that the Microsoft CEO refers to shareholders in all public PR as "Daddy" for all of 2026.
rem26_art@fedia.io · 8 pts · 225d
Microsoft CEO wants you to think about Microsoft 24/7
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 224d
Slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop. Forgot to say. Slop, slop, slop.
rinse and repeat