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tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 58 pts · 202d
I loved the first Hollow Knight incredibly, and I really wanted to love the sequel Silksong just as much, but the problem, you see, is that I am Not Good.
The first game had an OK difficulty and plenty of charms to help so I made it to the end, but all the first game DLC was so crazy hard I couldn't even. And that made me sad.
I hoped Silksong would be a return to a more accessible place, but while it started reasonable it quickly got to a difficulty where I couldn't keep up, no matter how much I tried. Way more than the original game.
So fuck you, Silksong. I love your world and I love your music and I love your vibe and I want to love you but I hate you.
I've recently been playing a lot of Minecraft.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 35 pts · 202d
I feel like Hollow Knight's difficulty was in the boss fights, you'd traverse pretty easily, then get stuck listening to a fucking Dung Beetle yelling "HOOOOOOOOYYYYYY!" while getting you're ass kicked for 45 minutes.
In Silksong I've gotten my ass handed to me by improper platforming & random nobodies more times than I can count.
dwemthy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 202d
Doma doma doma!
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 201d
dung defender is the game's easiest boss
stay at the edge of the arena where some attacks cant hit you, dodging the other ones
i defeated it 1st try
LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 202d
That's fair. Silksong is harder and more importantly much meaner game than Hollow Knight. It is still a really good game, but it's a bit of a love/hate relationship for me as well.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 202d
It is a game that you need to practice. I spent 96 hours to get 100% in 2.5 weeks. I crashed out on more than one occasion. It’s like practicing anything. I loved getting better at it, but I understand that it’s not for everyone.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 202d
The thing that makes me upset isn't that it's not for me.
I accept that plenty of games aren't for me, and that I shouldn't play them. I'm never going to get into Dark Souls or Elden Ring, because they aren't going to be my thing.
The part that makes me upset is that Hollow Knight very much was for me, and was a game I enjoyed and have very fond memories of. I was very much looking forward to Silksong, but the difficulty is so much higher that I can no longer engage with this world I once loved.
It feels in TV terms like watching Season 1 of a show and really getting into it, and then when Season 2 comes out, you excitedly start watching - episode 1, episode 2, but your TV somehow stops working every time you start the third episode. Or any episode after the third. Everyone is talking about how great the show is and you've seen clips and you want to experience it, but no matter how much you try, you can't.
If I hadn't seen Season 1, I'd just give up after those two episodes like "That show's obviously not working for me" - but I have seen Season 1. I'm invested, yet now I can't see it through.
That's why I'm upset.
Dupelet@piefed.social · 6 pts · 202d
I don't watch playthroughs myself, but maybe it would scratch the itch for you?
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 201d
Good point, there's a streamer I enjoy watching that plays games that I'd personally never touch.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 202d
If you beat hollow knight, you can beat silksong! It’s about patience and practice. I was going in and greedily getting off many hits instead of learning each boss’s fight and tells. It’s like learning how to play a difficult song. You will mess up a lot. You will repeat sections over and over. It will be a little frustrating if you let it frustrate you.
And you know what? It’s a video game. Download mods if you want to give yourself more hearts or have the bosses do less damage. We all have limited time to play games so have fun with it.
village604@adultswim.fan · 5 pts · 201d
Lots of people don't want that in a video game. Which is perfectly fine because no game is going to have universal appeal.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 201d
Exactly. Everyone wants a different thing out of video games. Mods exist to tailor that experience if you’re willing to.
Games are art, and the creators have a vision, but ultimately the players interpret the art all differently.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 201d
Yeah I found I became my own worst enemy in silksong, whenever you get a new movement ability it just opens up a ton of crazy stuff you can do and for a while I was just fighting the urge to go too fast (and doing it anyway)
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
I've got a friend with a lot on his plate in the same boat, so he bought it on steam and used trainers/cheats to make himself invincible. Then it became a playable movie of sorts and he enjoyed the shit out of it. It's a single player game, don't let anyone judge you.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 201d
Yeah, if I need to practice in order to enjoy it, I will just go play something else.
"Able to play Silksong" is not a skill that is useful enough to invest practice time into it.
MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 202d
Main thing that annoyed me that it felt like every enemy in Silksong deals two damages, so I see I got 4 lifes and think its relaxed and suddenly I am dead :(
dustyData@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Just get a mod that alters the difficulty, there's no cheating in single player games. I played about a third of the game until I hit my skill ceiling. I could've insisted on practicing and getting better and endure another 6 hours of frustration and hand pain. I love overcoming challenges and the sense of achievement when obstacles are overcome. But I also have a job and a family life that also delivers both, in a non-optional way. At some point I just want to see what else is there in the game's content, not to struggle against a wall for hours. Now I'm near the final act and can say, it would've take me tens of more hours to get here that way. I ain't got that much free time in my hands that I want to invest on a video game.
DavidP@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 203d
What character is holding him hostage?
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 56 pts · 202d
Hornet from Silk Song
turkalino@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 202d
Silknet from Horsong
Davel23@fedia.io · 27 pts · 202d
Hornet from Silksong.
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 202d
Silk hore from net song
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 20 pts · 202d
Hor net from Silksong
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 202d
Hornet from Silksong
Atlas_@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 202d
Sliknet from roshong
erer@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 202d
Song from hornet
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 202d
Geoff.
kionay@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 202d
Hopalong from Silkfrog
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 202d
Hornet from Silksong
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 202d
Netsong from Hornsilk
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 202d
Horsong from silknet
TrashcanTreasure@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 202d
Horny Silk Thong
JPAKx4@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 202d
H
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 202d
Horselips love song
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 202d
Hornt. Hornt Silkysong.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 201d
Homer Simpson
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 202d
Git Good.
StuffYouFear@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 202d
Factorio is my goto once a year thing for a month
Bosht@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 202d
Literally just started back up myself. Hoping to actually breach into Space Age as I picked it up when it released but just could NOT keep at it.
StuffYouFear@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
Lack of logistics before launch was one of two reasons, second was my 1 gig of blueprints had their rails invalidated
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 201d
Space age is huge compared to what there was before and I've had a few runs fizzle out early
Bosht@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
Ugh that is not encouraging haha
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 198d
Yeah I think the original game is maybe 10-20% of the game now.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 202d
I played a few hours of the original Hollow Knight, trying to get into it. I just.....couldn't.
I played the shit out of both of the Ori games, though. God DAMN those games are beautiful.
BunScientist@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 202d
Just wondering, how far did you get? The begining is certainly the weakest part, Silksong does a better job on improving the general lack of movement and closedness of the map early on
87Six@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 201d
Not op but I had the same issue
I think I played like 10 hours and nothing ever really clicked... I didn't really know what I was doing, why, what was happening or really anything at all.
And I'm no new guy in gaming. Been at it since like 2010.
Idk why I didn't enjoy Hollow Knight. It always seemed nice and still does.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
Thank God I'm not the only one. I was like "The hell am I doing? I feel like I'm just grinding to grind". Nothing felt interesting about the story and navigating the map felt like a chore of backtracking/figuring out where the hell I should go next. The gameplay was fine otherwise, but I just expected more from a game that supposedly "Redefined Metroidvania games".
I feel like it would have been improved with a quest and quest marker system. Some people enjoy exploring every nook and cranny, but I ain't got time for that shit.
Wiwiweb@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 201d
Personally I like metroidvanias for the exploration. If a game tells me where to go (e.g. Metroid Prime 4) it feels like the game is playing for me, robbing me of the fun.
You might like platformers more than metroidvanias specifically?
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 200d
I don't mind exploration. The problem was there wasn't a clear "where you should go next to progress the main story" in Hollow Knight, so I instead spent a bunch of time wandering aimlessly, hit a brick wall of progress, and got frustrated.
I liked Ori because it gave you guidance for a general "area" you can go to progress the main story, but still gives you the ability to explore with side quests when you want to get off track a bit. I completed 80% of the collectables in Will of the Wisps and explored nearly the entire map.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 201d
Hell, i like exploring nooks, but not that many
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 201d
I got to the mantis bosses and stalled. I came back when skong came out and found out they were an optional boss. Now I've finished 2 acts of the second game so I guess I've come a way. The second one is so much more in every way though and you probably don't need to play the first before it but it helps.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
metroidvanias are not for everyone. It's okay.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 201d
Ori and the Blind Forest is a metroidvania.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 200d
Okay, yes. But Ori is much more linear.
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Same, but I do love it's lore deep dives
Franzyd@fedit.pl · 13 pts · 202d
Difference this time is it's Hytale instead of Minecraft
sauce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 202d
My friend group considered picking it up but one guy said it's probably best to give it some more time in the oven.. have you played it? Thoughts?
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 202d
Its still in early beta, I love it but I also have a higher tolerance for bugs and general unpolished nonsense than most especially for a game I have waited seven years to play.
azertyfun@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 201d
The game has more breadth than I thought it would, and the systems it does have (exploration, fighting, construction, farming) have wayyy more depth than Minecraft's it does not feel fair to compare. There's definitely enjoyment to be had for a while playing if the occasional random lag spike or disconnect is not a deal breaker for you.
But it's not yet a Minecraft killer. Minecraft still has a much higher gameplay variation. In a couple years though I don't think there will be much reason to play vanilla Minecraft except nostalgia.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 202d
Monster Hunter is my Minecraft, because I need a game that hates me as much as I do.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 202d
Hey you, you're finally awake.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 10 pts · 202d
whispers look up "Vintage Story"
i'm hooked
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
My windmill is functioning. I put the helve hammer, quern and pulverizer into a room whose floor is 2 blocks thick, starting at a vertical level of 200. I've gone through 5 redwood trees, and am making refractory bricks to make steel. Also need to make a ton of plaster for the a lot of the windmill. That's on my single player world. My brother and I have a multiplayer world where we are currently prospecting for iron.
Oh I also have bees. So many bees on both worlds.
Scavenger_Solardaddy@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 201d
For me it's Shattered Pixel Dungeon. I get this intense craving every few years. Will play religiously for a month or two and uninstall once I lose interest.
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 201d
Isn't that an android game? Could never get past the first level or two deep, I miss on something
FunkFactory@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
The game has a few subtle mechanics that are not so obvious but more or less essential for progressing deep.
I haven't played in a few years, >!but IIRC it's extremely helpful to funnel aggro'd enemies through doors. Not only does it make it easier to fight only one at a time, but you get a surprise attack/crit on the turn the enemy enters the door frame and "discovers" the player.!<
randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 3 pts · 201d
You have to explore every room before descending to the next floor. You will find items that help you on your voyage.
idunnololz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
This is literally me right now (the minecraft thing) but its been going for 2 month :/. They actually added so much content since I last played I still haven't explored all of it yet.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
I'm having the same thing with Vintage Story, but that's mostly because steel takes so long to make. My windmill is functioning now and counts as a room, which is good cause it's tall enough that the temperature drops by 15° C from the ground to my work area.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 202d
I used to feel like this with Skyrim when the first snows of winter comes, but anniversary edition ruined a bunch of mods and now the cursor is a box and I don't feel like playing vanilla or figuring out which mod is broken that I probably don't want to play without anyways.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 201d
Nah, as much as Hollow Knight is a good game, it doesn't have Minecraft levels of hold on humanity and never will. He will return in couple of months stronger than ever.
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
I miss minecraft. I stopped when it demanded a microsoft account
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
There are...ways.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
I'm actively looking for a suitable minecraft replacement. It will be in my bio when I find it (if I'm still using this account at that time)
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 201d
Hytale is probably what you are looking for then.
It is a Minecraft successor made by people who also despise Microsoft. It recently released in early access but has most of the survival stuff already in. Will have all the MC features you want eventually. But it is sponsored by Riot Games.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Didn't Hytale just have some controversy about micro transactions?
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Ive been using luanti to play Mineclonia this week. Works pretty well imo.
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
Imma give luanti a couple more years to iron out the jank before I give it serious consideration. I am excited to see it improve though.
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 200d
Fair enough, its got a few rough edges. Ive been liking it so far and I havent had any problems that arent easy to solve.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 200d
Why do you want to replace it, what exactly do you not like about it? Microsoft or something else?
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
screw microsoft, but also it just hasn't developed as s video game in years despite numerous content updates. I won't go into my numerous complaints, but what I really want is 3d Terraria. Sure, there's mods, but I have no interest in maintaining a modpack anymore because I'm old and have a life now.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 201d
Yeah it's good but minceraft has way more content potential. Even before you start piling on the modpacks.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 201d
SHAW
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 167d
Ahhh Hornet