and he’s even aiming for a good moment, it’s not that he upholstered and inadvertently gave off a shot, he did pull the trigger in a conscious and determined action
He was holding a phone, but had a gun bolstered on his hip. The gun was removed from his holster by the guy in the grey jacket moments before the ICE agent opened fire.
My theory is that he saw a hand pull the gun and panicked because he thought it was the victim's hand.
He clearly panicked specifically to something, it looks like he panicked at seeing a fellow "agent" pulling the victim's weapon. Not the weapon itself which he seems to be watching before drawing, but the hand removing the weapon.
Since he had tunnel vision on the gun, he failed to recognize the hand removing the gun as being separate from the victim.
Watch the video again, he drew his gun after the other officer had removed the victim's gun. He then took the time to back away and reposition before shooting the victim
It seems pretty obvious that this was a retaliatory killing for the protests Friday and they targeted the guy with a gun so they could justify it for self defense
Exactly what I was thinking. The murderer who fired the first shot saw the gun, and even though it was another agent taking it, he saw it as a green light to execute Alex.
This one is even more brutal than I could have imagined. Do note that the same person who murders this man is also the same one who was pepper spraying someone who was slipping on ice and couldn't stand.
I had been struggling to see who exactly fired the first shot; but here it appears to be the brown shirt in a black toque and mask that's center screen for most of this video.
He watched the grey coat remove Alexs firearm, which means he knew he was shooting at an unarmed target.
The rest reacted to shots fired, unsure of where they came from; but still went WAY over board, shooting and continuing to shoot an unmoving target that posed no threat.
My theory is that he knew a hand just reached for and removed the gun from the victim's waist. He somehow thought that was the victim drawing his own firearm. It looks like he had seen the gun and was staring at it, but the moment the gun was touched by some hand, that seemed to the moment that drove his panic.
They are a bunch of idiots with no training or experience. The leadership is knowingly putting crappy people in the field, both malicious and incompetent.
Thank you for posting this. This is the clearest version I have seen and really lets you see how truly fucked up this is. Anyone still defending ICE/CBP cannot be taken seriously.
Everything I've seen so far is conservativesboot lickers saying "he should have stayed home", "he brought a gun to interfere with federal agents", "FAFO", etc.
Basically they've all given up on the idea of free speech and the right to bear arms, and have gone full on "we love big government".
It's not that they suddenly love big government, it's that they don't actually think... period. Politics to these people has nothing to do with actual reality, and none of these people actually give a single thought about how politics actually impact their own lives. These people treat politics like a sports team. They are Republicans, so they're on team Red. Everything their team does is automatically good, because that's their team. Everything the other team does is bad, because that's the other team.
Yes, but they only think that way because that's what they've been told to think by "their team". They're not Republicans because they are against free healthcare, they're against free healthcare because they're Republicans.
Nah, my dad will jump at any opportunity to talk about how bad and corrupt the Republican party is, but still votes for them every election because he agrees with pretty much everything they've ever advocated for except maybe Iraq. He's a Republican because he hates poor people and minorities and "communism", but not out of any sort of team loyalty.
MAGAs after a school shooting: “Stay away from my guns! The second amendment protects me from a tyraniccal government! 😎🇺🇸🦅”
MAGAs when a tyrannical government murders somebody who was exercising his constitutional rights by concealed carrying with a permit: “He had a gun! He’s a domestic terrorist! 🫨🚨🤬”
At some point, after a couple more people are straight up executed because an ICE agent is a little pussy and is "afraid" of an unarmed person...people need to step up and shoot back...or shoot first. Just saying
Do you remember those news from like a week back or so how Putin Trump has 2000 active duty soldiers on standby in, wherever it was, close by? It seems to me that this was the play all along- pardon the J6ers and the proud pigs, give them weapons, uniforms and face masks, send them in to cause mayhem on the streets (just like Hitlers SA), and the second someone defends themself they send in the army and declare martial law. No more elections.
If this isn't exactly how it will play out I am going to eat my own balls.
You are right, but now what? Will Minnesotans allow the executions so Trump leaves the elections in peace? Trump will try to stop the elections anyway. I think Americans are already so deep into Trump's shit that they can't expect any laws to work properly at all. The rogue state that the USA has been for decades has finally come to occupy the USA territory.
I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Instead, please focus on protecting you and yours.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn't enough. Driving to Cabela's and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence...far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn't about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. At the bare minimum, make sure you have quality active hearing protection.
Unfortunately, about 3% of the US population is currently barred from legally owning a firearm, based on a quick overview of studies on how many people have a felony conviction in the US. This number is significantly higher for African Americans and other races.
If Governors do not wield their State's National Guard and police forces to defend citizens from ICE terrorism, people's anger will only grow and more senseless killing will be had.
Tim Walz needs to buckle the fuck up and protect Minnesotans.
I had to keep jumping back to the start after the shots were fired because I couldn't tell which one was firing. I saw the one guy remove the gun from his belt, but I didn't actually see anyone pointing a gun at him when the shots went off. Silly me... I had been assuming it was one of any of the 5 guys actively struggling with him. I didn't realize it was the guy standing next to them trying to find a way to pepper spray him in the face (again) before reacting to the sight of a gun on his person that was immediately removed by a colleague by grabbing his own gun and unloading a clip into the guy.
Absolutely no justification for this, not even a long shot excuse about being in fear of his life. The gun wasn't in his hand, it was removed from his person entirely, and 4 other guys were actively restraining him down in a crouching position. The shooter was in absolutely no danger.
I don't know if this was cowardice and odiocy that resulted in an unreasonable fear response because these guys are just basement dwelling bigots that were handed guns and badges without any real screening or training, or if the guy has just been itching to shoot someone and he saw the gun in his belt as his excuse/opportunity.
Side note, even if I were an evil fascist racist small pricked ICE agent that fully supported killing this innocent bystander... I'd still be pretty fucking pissed that the dude fired on a guy that me and my 4 friends were actively dog piling on.
As I reach for what the hell specifically drove that guy to clearly panic and draw his firearm and shoot, my best guess is he saw the gun and then saw a hand pull it. His two brain cells failed to understand it was one of his own pulling out the gun and opened fire thinking the guy just pulled his gun.
In a firing squad, all but one or two rifles are firing blanks so that no single shooter would ever know for certain that it was their bullet, and therefore it wouldn't weigh on their conscience.
I was taught that all the rounds are live, except one, so the victim takes multiple shots, but every shooter can convince themselves that they had the blank round, and didn't kill.
Otherwise you take a chance on those one or two shots not being mortal, and having to reload.
Genuine question - the agent firing the gun will go to trial, yes? Federal agents in the US can not just kill random people in the without going to trial before an objective court?
In the time since George Floyd's murder, much has changed. The courts are much more in Trumps pocket, and to the extent that they can male this a federal case, he'll just pardon the murderers again.
In the mean time, the Dems will focus on stepping on their own necks to prevent the GOP from doing it.
It may take time, but he will be prosecuted. So will Renee Good’s murderer.
Also, if you concentrate and push hard enough, monkeys will pop out of your butt.
I think many people think things will eventually go back to "normal". MAGA isn't going to let that happen.
The democrats are far too weak and have no idea how to fight MAGA brainwashing. The only plus side is MAGA is nothing without Trump. When he dies, if the US hasn't gone full civil war, then MAGA might start to die.
I think MAGA wants a civil war though. They're have too much fun killing people in Minnesota and these inbred fucks probably can't wait to roll tanks into a city and open fire.
American leftists aren’t really leftists. They’re a twisted, American version of leftists. They still act like Americans, want to police the world and everyone’s thoughts, very American, just the opposite way
Tim Walz needs to activate the National Guard, state police, and local police to protect the community of the Twin Cities from fascist invasion and occupation.
Else, ICE will keep killing, and it's only a matter of time before regular citizens take up protection for themselves.
You're not wrong, but this particular motherfucker has worked for Border Patrol for 8 years. I see a lot of people talking about untrained, inexperienced thugs, and they are, but this is what they do with training and experience.
The Nuremberg trials were international criminal trials held by France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States against leaders of defeated Nazi Germany
Bro was literally face down in the floor being held down by 5 people. I'd say this is a Mexican execution, but pretty sure narcos in the jungle are more organized and disciplined than this.
Merica is the worst shithole in the world, and it always were. What is happening locally, violently abusing people for their own benefit, your shit-lords have done in all other nations on Earth for 75+ years.
Your leaders don't care about 'free speech', 'human rights' or ANY of the lgbt+/climate or any of the latest 'feel good' propaganda campaigns. They never did. It doesn't matter which branch of the uniparty Plutocracy we look at. They don't give a shit about anything other than money/power and grabbing more of it - 'people' are either in their way, or can be exploited..
The Merican dictatorship - The Empire of Lies - are cracking up, and going down hard !
I recommend that you either get used to it and live a subservient life under a - now openly - fascist dictatorship - or take your nation back from the rich psychos that control and terrorize you and everyone else on the planet..
Execution is worse in my opinion. A murder means the ICE agent acted against protocol and murdered a man. An execution implies this is a state sanctioned act of violence.
Which is what it was. The goverment has empowered its agents to come into our cities and execute us.
While it may be illegal under the letter of the law the government has acted to justify and normalize this action as a perfectly legal action.
Unless the government changes their statements we have to accept that DHS personal are allowed to kill Americans with total impunity. Those are executions.
I don't think that lawful execution of perfectly normal people intimates dignity.
I'm fine with calling it both, by the way. It was a murder committed by an ICE officer, and it was an execution committed by the state, whom the officer represents. The state is executing people.
Fuck these worthless terrorist pieces of shit! This guy was an air force veteran and a nurse. You can see that he was a good person in the video. Fuck these Nazis
We were talking about this the other day. ICE are idiots. They love to tear gas and always fog an entire area and effectively hide their enemy.
I'm just waiting for this to happen, then the resistance crowd throws bottles of gas, then one person throws a flare. ICE wouldn't even know what was happening. They can't smell gas wearing gas masks.
Disclaimer: I'm of course not advocating for this type of action.
Say the the same prayer folks.
These are the dumbest fucks in this country.
Let’s get creative!
For instance. Stay the fuck outta the way drop off a blue tooth speaker with shots fired sound
& watch the chromosonally challenged light each other up.
It’s worth a shot 🥸
Yo back that end date up several decades/centuries lol. It was doomed before it was born. The land was taken violently from the very beginning. Given its beginnings, I don't understand how anyone could think this wasn't going to be the end result.
I'm thinking that those filter masks they wear can be gummed up by any thick liquid and cut off their air. Happened to me once or twice when working with a thin slurry refractory material inside a confined space. Just a thin layer of it would get on the inlet and prevent the flow of air through the canisters.
Just a thought.
Edit: this was posted to the wrong place. I'm leaving it though.
111 Comments
7112@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 222d
Wow. That is so clear. You can see the agent watch the gun pulled from the back and once it was removed the agent shot him.
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social · 71 pts · 222d
and he’s even aiming for a good moment, it’s not that he upholstered and inadvertently gave off a shot, he did pull the trigger in a conscious and determined action
fizzle@quokk.au · 2 pts · 221d
Sorry im out of the loop on this, was it a gun or a phone? Is NYT saying phone?
jokerwanted@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 221d
He was holding a phone, but had a gun bolstered on his hip. The gun was removed from his holster by the guy in the grey jacket moments before the ICE agent opened fire.
adb@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 221d
The guy who as holding a phone and filming ICE. It also appears he had a gun on him.
jj4211@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 221d
My theory is that he saw a hand pull the gun and panicked because he thought it was the victim's hand.
He clearly panicked specifically to something, it looks like he panicked at seeing a fellow "agent" pulling the victim's weapon. Not the weapon itself which he seems to be watching before drawing, but the hand removing the weapon.
Since he had tunnel vision on the gun, he failed to recognize the hand removing the gun as being separate from the victim.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 221d
Watch the video again, he drew his gun after the other officer had removed the victim's gun. He then took the time to back away and reposition before shooting the victim
TheBunGod@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
It seems pretty obvious that this was a retaliatory killing for the protests Friday and they targeted the guy with a gun so they could justify it for self defense
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Exactly what I was thinking. The murderer who fired the first shot saw the gun, and even though it was another agent taking it, he saw it as a green light to execute Alex.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 87 pts · 222d
This one is even more brutal than I could have imagined. Do note that the same person who murders this man is also the same one who was pepper spraying someone who was slipping on ice and couldn't stand.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 72 pts · 222d
I had been struggling to see who exactly fired the first shot; but here it appears to be the brown shirt in a black toque and mask that's center screen for most of this video.
He watched the grey coat remove Alexs firearm, which means he knew he was shooting at an unarmed target.
The rest reacted to shots fired, unsure of where they came from; but still went WAY over board, shooting and continuing to shoot an unmoving target that posed no threat.
jj4211@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 221d
My theory is that he knew a hand just reached for and removed the gun from the victim's waist. He somehow thought that was the victim drawing his own firearm. It looks like he had seen the gun and was staring at it, but the moment the gun was touched by some hand, that seemed to the moment that drove his panic.
They are a bunch of idiots with no training or experience. The leadership is knowingly putting crappy people in the field, both malicious and incompetent.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 221d
Your theory was wrong in the thread above and it’s still wrong here.
He knowingly murdered an unarmed man.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 67 pts · 222d
Thank you for posting this. This is the clearest version I have seen and really lets you see how truly fucked up this is. Anyone still defending ICE/CBP cannot be taken seriously.
krashmo@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 222d
These fascist fucks deserve to hang
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 56 pts · 222d
Yep, that's an execution. So disgusting to see people defending this on other social media platforms.
coherent_domain@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 222d
I am curious how can this be defended, did he "weaponize" his arm and leg or something
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 222d
Everything I've seen so far is
conservativesboot lickers saying "he should have stayed home", "he brought a gun to interfere with federal agents", "FAFO", etc.Basically they've all given up on the idea of free speech and the right to bear arms, and have gone full on "we love big government".
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 5 pts · 221d
It's not that they suddenly love big government, it's that they don't actually think... period. Politics to these people has nothing to do with actual reality, and none of these people actually give a single thought about how politics actually impact their own lives. These people treat politics like a sports team. They are Republicans, so they're on team Red. Everything their team does is automatically good, because that's their team. Everything the other team does is bad, because that's the other team.
fizzle@quokk.au · 4 pts · 221d
They don't like the kind of "big government" that pays for health care for poor people.
They do like the kind of big government that does mean things to poor people.
I know that sounds like hyperbole but that's pretty much it.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 5 pts · 221d
Yes, but they only think that way because that's what they've been told to think by "their team". They're not Republicans because they are against free healthcare, they're against free healthcare because they're Republicans.
DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 221d
Nah, my dad will jump at any opportunity to talk about how bad and corrupt the Republican party is, but still votes for them every election because he agrees with pretty much everything they've ever advocated for except maybe Iraq. He's a Republican because he hates poor people and minorities and "communism", but not out of any sort of team loyalty.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 221d
People are brainwashed to defend the government and their agents no matter what. This happens regardless of who is the president.
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 221d
MAGAs after a school shooting: “Stay away from my guns! The second amendment protects me from a tyraniccal government! 😎🇺🇸🦅”
MAGAs when a tyrannical government murders somebody who was exercising his constitutional rights by concealed carrying with a permit: “He had a gun! He’s a domestic terrorist! 🫨🚨🤬”
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
It was always this way. White man with a rifle is okay, brown man is obviously an agitator.
Guns are an oppressive force in the US. They have never and will never be used to stop oppression, just lead us to the new oppressive regime.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 50 pts · 222d
Holy shit, this was a cold blooded execution
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 222d
At some point, after a couple more people are straight up executed because an ICE agent is a little pussy and is "afraid" of an unarmed person...people need to step up and shoot back...or shoot first. Just saying
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 222d
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 222d
Shame all those Minnesota hunters with rifles that know how to shoot from hundreds of yards away aren't doing...something
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 222d
Why don’t you? I keep hearing a lot of bloodlust and main characters telling me what they “would” or “should” do. Fucking do it.
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 222d
I live 3000 miles away.
chunes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
You live in Mexico?
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
I misspoke without actually looking at a map. 1730 some odd miles away.
0ops@piefed.zip · -9 pts · 222d
Car
tomiant@piefed.social · 16 pts · 222d
Do you remember those news from like a week back or so how
PutinTrump has 2000 active duty soldiers on standby in, wherever it was, close by? It seems to me that this was the play all along- pardon the J6ers and the proud pigs, give them weapons, uniforms and face masks, send them in to cause mayhem on the streets (just like Hitlers SA), and the second someone defends themself they send in the army and declare martial law. No more elections.If this isn't exactly how it will play out I am going to eat my own balls.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 221d
You are right, but now what? Will Minnesotans allow the executions so Trump leaves the elections in peace? Trump will try to stop the elections anyway. I think Americans are already so deep into Trump's shit that they can't expect any laws to work properly at all. The rogue state that the USA has been for decades has finally come to occupy the USA territory.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 221d
This is exactly what Trump wants. Your balls are safe.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 221d
This seems to be the play, yes. It's a classic dictatorship move.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
It is literally what the Nazis did. It's not just similar to what they did, it's literally exactly what they did.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 221d
It's been used by authoritarian regimes all over the world. From South America to the Philippines to Syria. Martial Law is a dictator classic.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 222d
I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Instead, please focus on protecting you and yours.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn't enough. Driving to Cabela's and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence...far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn't about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. At the bare minimum, make sure you have quality active hearing protection.
PineRune@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Unfortunately, about 3% of the US population is currently barred from legally owning a firearm, based on a quick overview of studies on how many people have a felony conviction in the US. This number is significantly higher for African Americans and other races.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 221d
If Governors do not wield their State's National Guard and police forces to defend citizens from ICE terrorism, people's anger will only grow and more senseless killing will be had.
Tim Walz needs to buckle the fuck up and protect Minnesotans.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 42 pts · 222d
He never pulled his gun. He never reached for it. He's innocent and it's irrefutable.
x00z@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
Not to mention he was disarmed already before the first shot went off.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org · 40 pts · 221d
These people were waiting for years, maybe even decades, to finally get to shoot a human in their own county. It's incredibly scary.
tomiant@piefed.social · 39 pts · 222d
Fuck. This is so disgusting, it is so infuriating. Straight up murder of a US citizen, a good man, a better man than any of these fucking cockroaches.
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 222d
It was an execution. Also, ICE/Border Patrol agents deserves the same fate.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 221d
no, it's too fast
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 222d
I had to keep jumping back to the start after the shots were fired because I couldn't tell which one was firing. I saw the one guy remove the gun from his belt, but I didn't actually see anyone pointing a gun at him when the shots went off. Silly me... I had been assuming it was one of any of the 5 guys actively struggling with him. I didn't realize it was the guy standing next to them trying to find a way to pepper spray him in the face (again) before reacting to the sight of a gun on his person that was immediately removed by a colleague by grabbing his own gun and unloading a clip into the guy.
Absolutely no justification for this, not even a long shot excuse about being in fear of his life. The gun wasn't in his hand, it was removed from his person entirely, and 4 other guys were actively restraining him down in a crouching position. The shooter was in absolutely no danger.
I don't know if this was cowardice and odiocy that resulted in an unreasonable fear response because these guys are just basement dwelling bigots that were handed guns and badges without any real screening or training, or if the guy has just been itching to shoot someone and he saw the gun in his belt as his excuse/opportunity.
Side note, even if I were an evil fascist racist small pricked ICE agent that fully supported killing this innocent bystander... I'd still be pretty fucking pissed that the dude fired on a guy that me and my 4 friends were actively dog piling on.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 221d
It wasn't fear, it was immasculation. They killed the guy because they were frustrated they couldn't pin him down.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
As I reach for what the hell specifically drove that guy to clearly panic and draw his firearm and shoot, my best guess is he saw the gun and then saw a hand pull it. His two brain cells failed to understand it was one of his own pulling out the gun and opened fire thinking the guy just pulled his gun.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 221d
WTF? That was an execution! It was literally a firing squad! Every one of those Apes should get the death penalty.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 221d
In a firing squad, all but one or two rifles are firing blanks so that no single shooter would ever know for certain that it was their bullet, and therefore it wouldn't weigh on their conscience.
These people all wanted in on it.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 221d
I was taught that all the rounds are live, except one, so the victim takes multiple shots, but every shooter can convince themselves that they had the blank round, and didn't kill.
Otherwise you take a chance on those one or two shots not being mortal, and having to reload.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 220d
You might be correct
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
You gotta be a monster for that to make any difference for yourself.
coredev@programming.dev · 5 pts · 221d
Genuine question - the agent firing the gun will go to trial, yes? Federal agents in the US can not just kill random people in the without going to trial before an objective court?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 221d
It may take time, but he will be prosecuted. So will Renee Good's murderer.
Don't listen to the trolls, they said the same thing about George Floyd's killers, who are sitting in prison at this moment.
French75@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 221d
In the time since George Floyd's murder, much has changed. The courts are much more in Trumps pocket, and to the extent that they can male this a federal case, he'll just pardon the murderers again.
In the mean time, the Dems will focus on stepping on their own necks to prevent the GOP from doing it.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Also, if you concentrate and push hard enough, monkeys will pop out of your butt.
I think many people think things will eventually go back to "normal". MAGA isn't going to let that happen. The democrats are far too weak and have no idea how to fight MAGA brainwashing. The only plus side is MAGA is nothing without Trump. When he dies, if the US hasn't gone full civil war, then MAGA might start to die.
I think MAGA wants a civil war though. They're have too much fun killing people in Minnesota and these inbred fucks probably can't wait to roll tanks into a city and open fire.
If you lean left, these people want you dead.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Hahahahaha, he wont see the inside of a squad car let alone a jailhouse or courtroom.
BaraCoded@literature.cafe · 35 pts · 222d
Cold-blooded murder.
merde@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 222d
fuck ICE. Fuck anybody who voted for Trump. Fuck Trump and FUCK USA.
in Trump's own words: a shithole!
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 222d
You know is worse than trump voters? Every leftist that stayed home and parroted Trumps anti Biden rhetoric. Traitors
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 7 pts · 222d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 221d
American leftists aren’t really leftists. They’re a twisted, American version of leftists. They still act like Americans, want to police the world and everyone’s thoughts, very American, just the opposite way
Riverside@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 221d
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 221d
Tim Walz needs to activate the National Guard, state police, and local police to protect the community of the Twin Cities from fascist invasion and occupation.
Else, ICE will keep killing, and it's only a matter of time before regular citizens take up protection for themselves.
And they're right to do so.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 221d
The National Guard was activated yesterday, by Tim Walz, to protect police and property; not the people.
(S)
/edit
I didn't expect them to show up and hand out Donuts to protestors....
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 221d
Yes, it was activated.
But as you say, not to protect the People of Minnesota.
Tim Walz is a cuck
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 221d
He is doing his job to protect property and power just like every other fascist in the country.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 221d
The state police were apparently tear gassing protestors right after the murder.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 221d
ACAB. We already know that the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) in Minnesota are siding with ICE.
Tim Walz doesn't have to, and he's the Commander in Chief in Minnesota.
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 221d
Wild he not only point blank shot, but there was possibility of cross fire and he fired directly next to another person's ear.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 221d
These guys were hired en masse and vetted by AI, we can't really expect them to understand gun safety.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 221d
You're not wrong, but this particular motherfucker has worked for Border Patrol for 8 years. I see a lot of people talking about untrained, inexperienced thugs, and they are, but this is what they do with training and experience.
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
I mean, cops are trained, and they are still totally violent dumb pieces of shit too.
kuulik@suppo.fi · 19 pts · 222d
If this is not enough for Americans to finally start a civil war I don't know what is. I hate this fucking nation.
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 221d
just keep collecting and posting these. when Nuremberg trial 2 hits there will be alot of evidence
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 221d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials
This avoided the trial of almost everybody else.
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 221d
oh. well u still get what i mean
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 221d
Didn't look like he was fighting at all, it was them getting in each other's way.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 221d
Plus he was pepper sprayed moments before
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Bro was literally face down in the floor being held down by 5 people. I'd say this is a Mexican execution, but pretty sure narcos in the jungle are more organized and disciplined than this.
Sims@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 222d
Merica is the worst shithole in the world, and it always were. What is happening locally, violently abusing people for their own benefit, your shit-lords have done in all other nations on Earth for 75+ years.
Your leaders don't care about 'free speech', 'human rights' or ANY of the lgbt+/climate or any of the latest 'feel good' propaganda campaigns. They never did. It doesn't matter which branch of the uniparty Plutocracy we look at. They don't give a shit about anything other than money/power and grabbing more of it - 'people' are either in their way, or can be exploited..
The Merican dictatorship - The Empire of Lies - are cracking up, and going down hard !
I recommend that you either get used to it and live a subservient life under a - now openly - fascist dictatorship - or take your nation back from the rich psychos that control and terrorize you and everyone else on the planet..
Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 222d
Throw every single ice agent in prison!
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 222d
BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 221d
If this is what they are doing in public they are doing much worse behind closed doors
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
most def. the conditions people are facing in custody must be ghastly if this is what they think they can get away with in public
Taleya@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 221d
Don't you give this the dignity of calling it an execution. It was a fucking murder
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 42 pts · 221d
Execution is worse in my opinion. A murder means the ICE agent acted against protocol and murdered a man. An execution implies this is a state sanctioned act of violence.
Which is what it was. The goverment has empowered its agents to come into our cities and execute us.
TRock@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 221d
Wholly agree
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 221d
nope. execution is appropriate. it's approved by the government.
edit: murder is also appropriate, to be clear
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 221d
The dignity?
Taleya@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 221d
Execution intimates order of law.
This was a murder.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 221d
While it may be illegal under the letter of the law the government has acted to justify and normalize this action as a perfectly legal action.
Unless the government changes their statements we have to accept that DHS personal are allowed to kill Americans with total impunity. Those are executions.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 221d
I don't think that lawful execution of perfectly normal people intimates dignity.
I'm fine with calling it both, by the way. It was a murder committed by an ICE officer, and it was an execution committed by the state, whom the officer represents. The state is executing people.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 222d
Fuck these worthless terrorist pieces of shit! This guy was an air force veteran and a nurse. You can see that he was a good person in the video. Fuck these Nazis
PointyFluff@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 221d
Remember kids. Those fancy outfits ICE are wearing are NOT flame resistant.
FIRE BURNS ICE.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 221d
We were talking about this the other day. ICE are idiots. They love to tear gas and always fog an entire area and effectively hide their enemy.
I'm just waiting for this to happen, then the resistance crowd throws bottles of gas, then one person throws a flare. ICE wouldn't even know what was happening. They can't smell gas wearing gas masks.
Disclaimer: I'm of course not advocating for this type of action.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 221d
Just FYI they aren’t piss resistant either ;)
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 221d
Gotta use coyote piss, shits the best for scaring off other predators
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 222d
Say the the same prayer folks. These are the dumbest fucks in this country. Let’s get creative! For instance. Stay the fuck outta the way drop off a blue tooth speaker with shots fired sound & watch the chromosonally challenged light each other up. It’s worth a shot 🥸
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
Here lies America July 4th 1776-January 24th 2026
victorz@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
Yo back that end date up several decades/centuries lol. It was doomed before it was born. The land was taken violently from the very beginning. Given its beginnings, I don't understand how anyone could think this wasn't going to be the end result.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 221d
RIP Mr. Pretti. I agree with all those that accuse ICE of an execution.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
I'm thinking that those filter masks they wear can be gummed up by any thick liquid and cut off their air. Happened to me once or twice when working with a thin slurry refractory material inside a confined space. Just a thin layer of it would get on the inlet and prevent the flow of air through the canisters.
Just a thought.
Edit: this was posted to the wrong place. I'm leaving it though.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
The most difficult part about maintaining a sealed mask is running.
jikt@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 221d
I hadn't watched this with sound. I shouldn't have. Is America just waiting for the government to change for the better?
TimeNaan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Please mark as NSFW
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 222d
Where is your second amendment America? It’s time, grow some balls
Iambus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Oh wow great idea kid. Dude brought a gun with him, ended up dead because of it.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 221d
Don't let the fascists make you afraid to have your rights