My work gave me a choice of a chromebook or a windows laptop when I started since the company uses the Google stack for everything.
I asked if I could get a high end chromebook and it was approved. Its easy to install linux apps in the dev container and they run seamlessly with the the chrome apps on the desktop and the window manager has multiple desktops (which is how I like to do things). Since I have to use Gmail and Google Docs for work anyway, the chromebook is really not bad and much better than having to use Windows.
I’m sure it works great but it’s like curing a toothache by breaking another one out on the other side of your mouth. My problem with windows isn’t how difficult to use it is, it’s how restricted and how connected it must be. I don’t have full control of the system and I’m required to have external accounts for it to work. Same with chrome.
My data is mine, I don’t want it accessed, owned and controlled by a faceless internet corporation.
So, professionally I do not care what system I am expected to use, they are all functional. If the person signing my paycheck is comfortable with it, so be it (in fact, I’m a big proponent of externalizing risk in a corporate setting). Personally though, I’ll keep up my greybeard routine :).
Catbox doesn't even work for me via Tor. Should I switch to a different, less censory Tor?
P.S. Residential ips are the most valuable for VPN users, and if residential providers block Catbox, then the value of using a residential VPN obviously wins over Catbox.
Annnnnd in my case, running very complicated scripts provided by genius level volunteers to overwrite the bootloader (to Libreboot I think?) so it could accept a Linux OS because Chrome OS told my mother in law:
"We decided we're done caring. Throw this device out and buy a brand new one."
She's been happily running Mint and getting her browser and security updates ever since.
Chromebooks and ChromeOS were an e-waste generating scheme from the start.
Linux > Only using a smartphone (GrapheneOS) > Only using a smartphone (LineageOS) > Only using a smartphone (ARM Linux) > Literally not having a computer at all > Returning to the woods and living completely off-grid for the rest of my sorry days > Screaming into the void hoping it claims me > Chromebook > Mac > Windows
I just did Linux/Chromebook(derogatory)/Mac/Windows but it really didn't capture my disdain for the last 3 enough
I’d swap the chromebook and mac at the end there. The ewaste that is a chromebook is at best a glorified netbook, the macs at least have some decent hardware options that can be leveraged.
To be fair, part of this is my own experience. I've owned a Chromebook (still have it... Somewhere?), and know how it works. I've never once touched a Mac xD
The Void already has claims to all of us. The Void actually enjoys and needs the screaming, so it'll be patient and wait until your warranty runs out; when your particular version stops getting patches and reaches EOL.
When that happens, it'll welcome you, and you'll get sent to /dev/random instead of the recycle bin or the trash can.
Note: You'll have to wait for enough entropy in order to get to your next destination. How long that takes depends on how many people are screaming into the void at that time 🤷
Android so good they made installing software sound cool and hacker-y like „uuuh I’m not supposed to be doing this :3“ as you install a fucking weather app or sumn (sideloading)
I'll be honest, I think the grammar and way the post was written is what's annoying me most. I'm reading it with at least 3 different possible meanings.
(Gigantic megacorp titan dumps billions into forcing a cheap thing on mass culture for further control of everything, selling at a massive loss to artificially inflate adoption rates)
"Wow! So many people use this thing now that an ultramegasupercorp did it to exploit countless masses of normies before their competition did! How did that happen!? I guess this must be the winning 'linux' of the future!"
No wonder it annoys Linux evangelists: We just want a world where we use computers, not the other way around.
Yes, you are quite right: I heard about the existence of "Samsung DeX" here first. It's such an obscure thing that I (a Samsung smartphone user for more than half a decade) hadn't heard of it before. I had certainly heard of Chrome OS before even though I've never used it.
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CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 77 pts · 220d
My work gave me a choice of a chromebook or a windows laptop when I started since the company uses the Google stack for everything.
I asked if I could get a high end chromebook and it was approved. Its easy to install linux apps in the dev container and they run seamlessly with the the chrome apps on the desktop and the window manager has multiple desktops (which is how I like to do things). Since I have to use Gmail and Google Docs for work anyway, the chromebook is really not bad and much better than having to use Windows.
4grams@awful.systems · 26 pts · 220d
I’m sure it works great but it’s like curing a toothache by breaking another one out on the other side of your mouth. My problem with windows isn’t how difficult to use it is, it’s how restricted and how connected it must be. I don’t have full control of the system and I’m required to have external accounts for it to work. Same with chrome.
My data is mine, I don’t want it accessed, owned and controlled by a faceless internet corporation.
So, professionally I do not care what system I am expected to use, they are all functional. If the person signing my paycheck is comfortable with it, so be it (in fact, I’m a big proponent of externalizing risk in a corporate setting). Personally though, I’ll keep up my greybeard routine :).
a14o@feddit.org · 68 pts · 220d
Image refuses to load over my VPN. Well played, consider me thoroughly annoyed.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 220d
Then your VPN provider is blocking catbox. You should switch to a different VPN.
https://catbox.moe/faq.php
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 219d
Catbox doesn't even work for me via Tor. Should I switch to a different, less censory Tor?
P.S. Residential ips are the most valuable for VPN users, and if residential providers block Catbox, then the value of using a residential VPN obviously wins over Catbox.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 220d
Images refused to load and I’m not on a VPN.
Using Voyager on iOS.
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 220d
Considering chromeOS "freedom" is wild.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 219d
It's only truly free when the write protection screw is removed
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 219d
Annnnnd in my case, running very complicated scripts provided by genius level volunteers to overwrite the bootloader (to Libreboot I think?) so it could accept a Linux OS because Chrome OS told my mother in law:
"We decided we're done caring. Throw this device out and buy a brand new one."
She's been happily running Mint and getting her browser and security updates ever since.
Chromebooks and ChromeOS were an e-waste generating scheme from the start.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 220d
Chromeos is actually more Linux than normal Linux, because it has three different types of Linux packed into one.
M137@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 219d
Add to that all the tracking and supporting an evil megacorp!
I feel like it kinda stops being Linux in a way once that's done.
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 24 pts · 220d
It's funny how my opinion of this really is:
Linux > Only using a smartphone (GrapheneOS) > Only using a smartphone (LineageOS) > Only using a smartphone (ARM Linux) > Literally not having a computer at all > Returning to the woods and living completely off-grid for the rest of my sorry days > Screaming into the void hoping it claims me > Chromebook > Mac > Windows
I just did Linux/Chromebook(derogatory)/Mac/Windows but it really didn't capture my disdain for the last 3 enough
Whitebrow@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 220d
I’d swap the chromebook and mac at the end there. The ewaste that is a chromebook is at best a glorified netbook, the macs at least have some decent hardware options that can be leveraged.
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 6 pts · 220d
To be fair, part of this is my own experience. I've owned a Chromebook (still have it... Somewhere?), and know how it works. I've never once touched a Mac xD
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 220d
To be fair, these are great options…
riskable@programming.dev · 5 pts · 219d
The Void already has claims to all of us. The Void actually enjoys and needs the screaming, so it'll be patient and wait until your warranty runs out; when your particular version stops getting patches and reaches EOL.
When that happens, it'll welcome you, and you'll get sent to /dev/random instead of the recycle bin or the trash can.
Note: You'll have to wait for enough entropy in order to get to your next destination. How long that takes depends on how many people are screaming into the void at that time 🤷
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 219d
my list is:
linux>windows>Screaming into the void hoping it claims me>>>Android(one of the better ROMs)>Android(one of the worse ROMs)>IOS>"Smart" TVs
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 23 pts · 220d
Stallman: Android-shmadroid. That's why I always insist on "GNU/Linux" name, not just Linux.
flamingos@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 220d
Given Ubuntu is testing replacing the GNU coreuitils with uutils, we might have to start unironically calling it systemd/Linux.
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 15 pts · 220d
I prefer the "shit" term regarding Ubuntu :)
lauha@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 220d
I use shit/Linux btw
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · -2 pts · 220d
Nice attempt, actually. I am immune to such things, but it definitely should work on younger people.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 219d
wouldnt that term also include android?
Lembot_0006@programming.dev · 3 pts · 219d
I believe we should find some more rude term for Android.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 220d
The differentiator is glibc. That's what defines binary compatibility. Ubuntu still used glibc, Android uses Bionic.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 220d
"New Linux? But nobody's really adopted the old one!"
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 220d
There is only one piece of software named Linux and that's the kernel. Android is as much a legitimate distribution of Linux as is Alpine Linux.
bastion@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 220d
You don't sound annoyed. You're failing OP.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 220d
Maybe OP is annoyed?
bastion@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 220d
doubt Surely OP's post was purely informational..
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 219d
Android so good they made installing software sound cool and hacker-y like „uuuh I’m not supposed to be doing this :3“ as you install a fucking weather app or sumn (sideloading)
mudkip@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 217d
It's sad that something as simple as installing a third-party app has become challenging in modern computing.
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 217d
Companies really said “you are a criminal for tampering with our device” and we just let it happen
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 220d
I have to admit, this bugs me a little.
Mikelius@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 219d
I'll be honest, I think the grammar and way the post was written is what's annoying me most. I'm reading it with at least 3 different possible meanings.
pat277@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 220d
Still enjoying the lenovo chromebook I got running Fedora, with 0 problems
bryndos@fedia.io · 9 pts · 220d
I use fydeOS btw.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 220d
Real men use Hannah Montana linux
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 3 pts · 220d
Real men should update.
tpihkal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 220d
Just write your own updates.
Kernal64@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 220d
I use Arch, BTW.
bastion@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 220d
Yeah, yeah.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 219d
(Gigantic megacorp titan dumps billions into forcing a cheap thing on mass culture for further control of everything, selling at a massive loss to artificially inflate adoption rates)
"Wow! So many people use this thing now that an ultramegasupercorp did it to exploit countless masses of normies before their competition did! How did that happen!? I guess this must be the winning 'linux' of the future!"
No wonder it annoys Linux evangelists: We just want a world where we use computers, not the other way around.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 219d
The android model is the windows model
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 219d
gottem
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 220d
Laptops arent desktops?
fleton@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 220d
Just need to take it off the top of your lap and put it on top of the desk.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 220d
The term "desktop" has more than one meaning and in the context of which operating systems are used on desktops, it certainly includes laptops. 😉
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 220d
Samsung DeX = desktop Linux. You heard it here first, folks.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 220d
Yes, you are quite right: I heard about the existence of "Samsung DeX" here first. It's such an obscure thing that I (a Samsung smartphone user for more than half a decade) hadn't heard of it before. I had certainly heard of Chrome OS before even though I've never used it.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 220d
DeX is more often used on Samsung tablets with attached keyboard. I didn't check but I assume it's being merged with Android's upstream desktop mode.
ragas@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 219d
Thankfully chromebooks are not a thing where I live.
YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 219d
I love David Gerard