Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) called out one-time ally Donald Trump for abandoning the core promises behind his “Make America Great Again” movement.
“MAGA is, I think people are realizing, it was all a lie,” she told YouTube host Kim Iversen. “It was a big lie for the people.”
The Trump administration, she said, is all about serving “big, big donors,” including foreign countries and large corporations, with many funneling cash to Trump’s PACs and pet projects such as his White House ballroom to win favor.
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humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 131 pts · 223d
Better late than never, I guess? I'm sure this pivot is at least partially self-serving, but we need all the allies we can get against Dickless Jackass Trump.
sylver_dragon@lemmy.world · 95 pts · 223d
Yup, I'd never consider Greene an ally. But, the enemy of my enemy is a useful tool against my enemy. The more conservative voices calling out Trump's corruption and self-serving, the better. The MAGA base is never going to listen to anyone who is politically to the left of Atilla the Hun, but someone like Greene may be able to peel a few of them off into the "disaffected, non-voters" camp.
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 223d
dhork@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 223d
Give Marjorie credit for at least figuring it out. Although a very tiny, tiny proportion of MAGAts ever see consequences, women seem to be overrepresented:
Marjorie's experience recently getting shut out of running for Senate or Governor by the MAGA establishment is at the top of her mind, of course.
Elsie Stefanik drew the short stick too, she was nominated to be UN Ambassador, and a bunch of other Republicans in the House were also nominated for positions in the administration. All those other men got their promotions, but when it was time to affirm Elsie's they told her the House majority was now too thin. Then she launched her own campaign for NY governor, only to find that once a male Republican announced his campaign, all her support evaporated.
And with all the problems recently with ICE, from Trump to Stephen Miller and all down the chain, I bet Kristi Noem will be the first to face any consequences. She might be offered up as a sacrifice to keep the rest of it going.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 223d
She knew the whole time. But she was in the inside of the grift. Now she got pushed out and is mad about it.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 223d
Don't think she didn't know it was a grift the entire time. She got in, got hers and is now getting out so she can do the whole 'news consultant' gig. The only thing I'll give her credit for is that she might just open a couple of eyes... but I don't think she's doing that out of a sense of service to her country, but instead it is just part of her personal rebranding.
dhork@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 223d
They all know it's a grift. She wanted the grift. What she figured out is that she will never really be part of the boys' club. When consequences are forced onto them, they will land disproportionally on the ones without penises.
HairyOldCoot@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 223d
MTG is smart*, amoral, and self interested. Of course she'd be one of the first rats off the ship.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 223d
I hate this all or nothing monolith mindset. No, not all of the MAGAts are the same. There are some who will see her saying this and leave. Your mindset is one of failure, where there's nothing to be done (besides civil war, which won't be as nice as you think). We need to spread that it's even too bad for her, and she was one of the most ardent supporters. Let them know all the "good" things they wanted were bullshit. We can get some of them to leave.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 223d
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 223d
Atilla the Hun is actually too left for them, he actually listened to the patriarch of Rome and didn't kill him. Also had the good sense to die after fucking shit up, wine makes a damned good blood thinner and he fucked himself up on it before getting a bloody nose.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 223d
Apparently Trump loves pounding aspirin, so we have that going for us.
hector@lemmy.today · -8 pts · 223d
Marjorie is more progressive than most of the democrats at this point.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 223d
This is insane.
hector@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 223d
She is against war, against Israel, for healthcare. Against geo-engineering. Wants justice on epstein.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 223d
And thinks Jewish space lasers are a liberal conspiracy to attack christians from space.
hector@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 223d
Well you think the establishment democrats are the people to lead the resistance, so you aren't one to talk pal.
As if there were enough of us alone to take back the country, we need to cut into their people. And you are being manipulated, by Israel at that.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 222d
I like how you speak for me so you can have something to attack.
realitista@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 223d
She's gunning for a run at the presidency, mark my words.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 223d
She's just mad that she got frozen out of the boys club. She was one of the biggest fundraisers in the party— she did her "duty" and only after she got stiffed did she figure out that there is no honor among thieves.
If this caterwauling troll had gotten her bag she'd have had no complaints. Fuck her.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 223d
I always saw Greene as a true believer, she believes horrible hate filled shit, but she actually believes.
The thing is, her hate filled beliefs don't match up with what MAGA actually believes, which is that certain white men get to make up the rules as they go along.
It just took her being shut out for the disconnect to appear.
She still believes in the hatred, but doesn't like the constant lying of those in her party.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 223d
I hope she gets hot coals shoved up her ass when she dies and goes to hell. The video she filmed, before she was in Congress, yelling at David Hogg and the other highschool victims when they were going to testify in front of Congress is unforgivable. I don't care how many mea culpas she does, she is a broken person that deserves every bit of hate she gets.
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 223d
That said, don’t stop her now…
Waldorf@infosec.exchange · 58 pts · 223d
@MicroWave Let's not forget WHO Marjorie Taylor Green really is! She's sick and divisive and has no respect for America. A turd doesn't smell better just because it's flushed!
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 223d
I don’t see this as MTG being a good guy.
I see this as MAGA eating itself. And I’m here for that.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 223d
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 223d
She is a symptom of the state of American politics.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 223d
she's making a lot of money though. weird how being a psycho turd makes you rich from booksales and media appearances.
almost as if she mostly cares about that. as do most of the politicians and pundits...
Waldorf@infosec.exchange · 8 pts · 223d
@TubularTittyFrog The real tell is that there are 12,000 registered Lobbyists in DC. Their reporting reveals that in 2023 they distributed over $4Billion dollars to members of Congress from their special interest groups.
Statistically when they leave Congress, they become Lobbyists and make in excess of 6 times what they made from the people!
None of them are there to serve their constituents! Giving money directly to a Congressperson is "BRIBERY" but our Supreme Court says that giving it to a lobbyist and he gives it to a Congressperson is ....
FREE SPEECH and protected by the 1st Amendment! --- crooked bastards, all of them!
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 223d
people behave according to incentives that reward certain behaviors, and punish others.
i used to work in policy. good policy gets you voted out of office, and makes everyone hate you. You don't get rich from pursuing a broad-based policy that improves the lives of your constituents. a lot of people i met... were smart and open about this. there was no reason to be a 'good' politician because nobody pays you for it, and the voters tend to vote you out for it.
there are some cases where that isn't true, of course. but usually limited to smaller districts/states with more homogeneous populations
Kiernian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
I feel like this effect could be ameliorated by restricting political advertising to direct, verified facts only.
Waldorf@infosec.exchange · 1 pts · 217d
@Kiernian @TubularTittyFrog Kiernian, sometimes a particular post sits in your brain without digesting properly. Yours is one of those for me.
"good policy gets you voted out ..." damn, laying an egg like that can't be allowed to sit there unexplained!
Your comment is the same " ... restricting political advertising ..."
The voters are supposed to do that! When a candidate for office says something like "free daycare, free bus transportation" "I'll be your retribution", "you'll never have to vote again" the voter is supposed to think and ask the questions, not just cheer them on!
If the voters are incapable, democracy is not dead, like Fascism it should never be permitted!
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 55 pts · 223d
Damn, MTG over here spitting facts. She did lean into that propaganda hard, so can't really give get a pass. But still good to see her speaking some truth.
MasterNerd@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 223d
Given how many bullshit conspiracy theories she's peddled over the years, she doesn't have much ground to stand on
n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 223d
No, but I'd still rather she be peddling the truth now than never. She doesn't get a pass and I don't forgive her, but I welcome anyone who wants to stop preaching bullshit, no matter how heinous the shit they used to say was.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
It's like when your brother finally gives up drugs. You don't forgive or forget all the terrible stuff that they've done, but you welcome the person you knew before the drugs back. At least what's left of them. MTG doesn't deserve forgiveness but she deserves respect for admitting that she was wrong and walked back. It wasn't her idea to do any of this and I'm sure if things went differently she'd still be by his side but an ally is better than an enemy.
vegeta@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 223d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 222d
So, MAGAs, if you're keeping score:
America First, no foreign entanglements. Yeah, not so much.
Lower prices on day one. Past Day 365, and everything is even higher than it was, and rising.
Release the Epstein Files. Still not happening.
Rounding up undocumented criminals, but they are grabbing up American citizens.
Paramilitary Death Squads roaming our streets, breaking out in spontaneous firing squads against American citizens.
So what are you still in for? The open corruption? The violence? The Pedophilia?
I'll bet it's the Pedophilia. If you're a pedophile, you're going to figure your best chance is with the PedoCons in charge.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 222d
It’s the racism. And assorted other bigotry.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 222d
MTG is not our friend. But she can definitely be useful.
whitecollarcry@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 21 pts · 222d
It's gonna take only months for news outlets like the NYTimes and the rest to rehabilitate her reputation and make her a hero like Liz Cheney. Fuck them all. She is a screaming baboon. She's a racist conspiracist who believed in Qanon. She harassed a survivor of a school shooting on video. She thought (thinks) Jewish space lasers are a thing. C'mon, she's a fucking piece of shit.
She's crazy and stupid (and stupid and crazy). Getting power and finding out her hero is a piece of shit doesn't make her a good person. Don't give her any respect.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 222d
Responding to my own comment, Liz Cheney is not a hero. I'm only saying that Lib publications treated her like one.
RedAggroBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
No shit, but a very public turnaround from a very big face in their movement is a very good means to wake up some useful idiots in this country.
Believe it or not, you can't tell everyone you dislike to fuck off and expect enough people to work with you to have a functioning free society. Forgiveness is a virtue.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 223d
It was a lie that she intentionally and knowingly told thousands of times. I hope the trials don't show her any mercy
SickofReddit@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 222d
Jesus Christ Marjorie that took a really long time for you to clue in when everybody else knew the whole time.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 222d
*everybody except the 25% of Americams who still think that Trump hasn't gone far enough, and won't be happy until they see army tanks on the streets blowing up Jesus's house.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 222d
Yeah she’s really annoying but if she can swayed in the MAGA bs then I’m hopeful that other normal citizens can too
SickofReddit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
I do appreciate her public turnaround on this. I have a feeling most Republicans think the worst thing in the world is and I Told You So from a Democrat and will do anything to avoid it.
cheffrey@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 222d
My coworker follows her and Candace Owens. Coworker used to preach Doge and MAGA. Doesn’t so much anymore.
Granted, coworker still doesn’t vaccinate her kid. But better is good.
Happy MTG isn’t maga anymore.
wakko@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 222d
You ever ask her why she's suddenly not as interested in satanic pedo sex cults run by elites now that she knows she helped get one elected as President?
cheffrey@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 222d
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 222d
I legitimately think Candace Owens is suffering from some sort of mental illness. I just can't accept that someone with a normal functioning brain can be that stupid, evil, and delusional.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 223d
If she actually regretted any of it, she could've retained her seat and voted against MAGA.
Methinks this is much about attention as anything she did that was pro-MAGA.
cogman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 223d
It's all to move for another seat. She's politically savvy. She'll run for Gov or president or to be a VP pick. Building distance from today's MAGA is just a calculated move to make her look more moderate.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 223d
Yeah, no shit. Welcome to the party, Marj.
The Republicans/conservatives hate this country and want to destroy everything about it that actually was built toward meeting any ideals, strip it for parts, and funnel all the money to the already rich. Appealing to the racists and xtian zealots only helps them meet this goal, even if only some of the elites may actually be xtian/racist.
And "maga" == conservatives == Republicans.
ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 223d
Youve just described Democrats too
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 221d
Checks profile.
Lemmy.ml. Tagged, blocked.
ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 221d
Liberals hate being reminded they are fascist too
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 223d
Ha ha ha. #BothSides, as ever.
Etterra@discuss.online · 15 pts · 222d
No shit bitch. We've only been saying for what, a decade now? 12 years?
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 222d
it feels so much longer. Every day, even when he wasn't the president was a never ending shit show of what is Trump saying now
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 13 pts · 223d
I wonder who have called this before her 🤔 … ho right every body with two brain cells
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 223d
Her breath still reeks of boot polish, tho'; there was a lot of lapping happening.
just2look@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 223d
All of her talk lately makes me wonder of she is trying to line up a 'save the republican party' presidential bid.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 223d
BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 223d
SoftQuartz@anarchist.nexus · 5 pts · 223d
something something broken clock...
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
If MTG can change, then we all can.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 221d
She flipped sides. But she can still flip out like no one’s business cuz she has paper thin skin. Just going against trump doesnt mean therapy isn’t still required in a persons life.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Sometimes it's just worth celebrating a win, no matter how small.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Sure. Just don't get too cozy and drop guard. She's not the ally you think she is.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Comrade, I'm an anarcho-commie. I'll never be friends/allies with MTG. I'm simply enjoying her not being an active enemy.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 220d
No kidding. point still stands. Find better arguments to have.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
Ok?
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 223d
Fuck you people and your low standards for making this person your ally simply because she is saying things now (that she probably doesn't even believe in) you like. Go ahead, stand with MTG.
Restaldt@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 223d
What do you mean campaigning with the Cheneys was a terrible idea?
Think about the handful of conservative votes we theoretically could've flipped by doing that!
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 223d
Ally? That suggests both a specific intention and a longevity I can't imagine she's capable of.
I know I'm not. She's no Bernie Sanders, lol.
She's also still a racist, as per her regime-friendly reaction to Don Lemon's arrest. I find that intolerable.
thlibos@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 223d
That's right! Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the Greene! /s
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 223d
MAGA turning on Trump is a possibility.
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 223d
But, but, but, some rando called Qanon said some stuff and it made my confirmation bias tingle! I thought you were all about the Q, Marge. Now you're saying you're not? Is anybody anymore? What the Q, y,all?
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 223d
I guess some people just take about a decade longer than others to understand what's blazingly obvious.
devolution@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 223d
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 223d
What a fuckin’ genius.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 223d
Dumb idiot grifter realizes other dumb idiot grifters are dumb idiot grifters. News at 11.
CopLoverBillionairefan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 223d
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org · 8 pts · 223d
Well, she said MAGA was a lie, but she still wants the MAGA she thought she was getting.
javasux@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 223d
Too little too late, babe
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 223d
Either she's stupid or got tired of deluding herself. Not sure which is worse.
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 223d
That kind of person never gets tired.