The truth on the other hand, is the unshakable reality that has driven every sanction, every sabotage attempt, and every assassination plot since 1959: Cuba is a threat only to an idea. It is a threat to the imperial doctrine that a small, poor nation in America’s ‘backyard’ must not be allowed to choose socialism, to provide free healthcare and education, and homes to live without the permission of Washington.
For this sin of self-determination, the crime of building a society where capital is not god, Cuba has been punished with the most enduring economic siege in modern history. This is not an ‘embargo’, which I consider to be a sterile, political term. It is a total blockade, designed to constrict and cripple. It is enforced by a plethora of laws with names like the Helms-Burton Act, which terrorises foreign companies from trading with the Island and allows the US to seize ships in international waters. Its goal, as US politician Robert Torricelli once admitted, was to…
‘Wreak havoc’.
what the US is doing to Cuba right now is one of the most barbaric crimes in its history.
https://thespectaclemag.substack.com/p/what-the-us-is-doing-to-cuba-right
113 Comments
DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 117 pts · 192d
procapra@lemmy.ml · 86 pts · 192d
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 191d
"One of". This is US history we're talking about - the bar is in orbit.
procapra@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 189d
True.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 65 pts · 192d
And because all of this shit they have been throwing on the Cuba, they can claim socialism doesn’t work.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 61 pts · 192d
I would say resisting 66 years of unceasing hybrid warfare from the biggest superpower in the world right next door is pretty good sign of resilient and working system.
Riverside@reddthat.com · 29 pts · 191d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
That can change quickly once US intervention goes hot
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 191d
Riverside@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 191d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 191d
Small Island nation resists the world's largest and most advanced military for 70 years. Develops state of the art health care system, modernizes energy and transportation, becomes a global tourist hotspot, all under US blockade
Socialism doesn't work
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 190d
Exactly!
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 192d
That’s definitely a bonus for them
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 60 pts · 192d
"People in socialist countries starve because we starve them"
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 192d
Why the quotes?
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 192d
I'm saying the US basically says this.
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 192d
Because they're not the one who thinks that.
Astrius@lemmy.ml · 57 pts · 192d
It is essentially genocide.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 191d
I don't agree on this, but I do think it's shaping up rapidly to become one. We will see in a couple of months, but any tropical cyclone or natural phenomena has a huge destructive potential in Cuba right now.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 191d
Please provide a definition so we can frame your argument.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · -36 pts · 192d
I don't know about that. Genocides don't usually take 80 years, as the population grows. I don't think that fits the description.
daannii@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 191d
Time period is irrelevant.
Intentionally disrupting a countries ability to prosper and sustain itself with the end goal being loss of lives of those citizens is still genocide.
Bombs or starving. Doesn't matter the method.
Killing off civilians of a state is genocide.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 191d
Found the Israeli
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 191d
Zionist.
amide@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 192d
I hope and pray that the Cuban people stand together and persevere. May this be the final nail in the empire of evil.
GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 192d
I guess this is the best approach.
Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml · 39 pts · 191d
The fact that there has not been a unified Latin American defence coalition against the US formed is crazy to me. Us in the USA want (and more desperately need) liberation from our leadership.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 32 pts · 191d
Isn't that why usa/cia do so much to keep them disablized?
Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 191d
B-b-b-bingo
Maeve@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 191d
Wanting and having the will to do what needs doing are different things.
Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 191d
That is true. A significant number of people are though in Minnesota. I am working to spread the GS to other states but I am very far away from Minnesota.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 191d
Charity begins at home, mate.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 191d
There has been one. It's just composed of imperial powers and their corporate proxies.
The defense coalition existed to intercede against slave revolts, anti-colonial nationalism, and Communist uprisings. It has been very successful.
Join the club
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 192d
I had no problem with Cuba. Nice place to visit in winter. No Americans.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 191d
Ebough damage has been done in these last decades. This is dangerously becoming a full blown USA genocide of the Cuban people. It's unacceptable.
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 192d
Worse than what Israel is doing to Palestine?
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 192d
Not yet, but it's a similar action with a similar goal
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 192d
Iran
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · -11 pts · 192d
Not really. Call me when they're bombing hospitals and schools.
hdnsmbt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 191d
So, it's only similar when it's the same? Words have meaning, you know?
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 192d
Both are worse and coming to USA.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
They're using the same strategies. Israel is farther along in the process.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 191d
What the US is doing right now? It goes further back...
peoflor@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 192d
For those who say it's a hoax, look up videos of any Cuban on YouTube and turn on the subtitles.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 191d
America: ill do it again
choui4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 190d
How the USA destroyed Cuba with economic sanctions
https://youtu.be/zIOw6fSOJI4
did you know that, during the Covid pandemic, the usa refused to allow countries to sell respirator parts to Cuba? Hundreds died choking on their own bile, meanwhile Cuban doctors traveled the world administer free vaccines to poor countries.
https://pca.st/episode/b9afd925-9da1-48c9-a227-d9186df15dc5
https://pca.st/episode/44db48f6-45f7-4d79-92a0-6ad596da8c6b
https://pca.st/episode/6e3f6be7-a968-4126-83ab-9dbb68278628
How the Cuban communist government changed their entire food system overnight because of sanctions
https://pca.st/episode/0b790d39-e5c7-4d9c-9633-b58690596178
How Britain plotted to spread homophobia in Cuba
https://www.declassifieduk.org/how-britain-plotted-to-spread-homophobia-in-cuba/
Here's a REAL Cuban telling you what trump has done/doing
https://pca.st/episode/5b53a084-d12e-4e76-ad85-7d4820fedbc8
Hasan on Cuba
https://youtu.be/krpC2WzXUkY
A Cuban, on Cuba: https://peertube.world/w/eh7KeUBRpKVWjfBfFRh1qU
All of American media is a psyop designed to give well meaning people an excuse to do immeasurable harm via the american military
https://youtu.be/gvxJVyvEbv0
https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/stand-with-cuba-against-the-state-sponsors-of-terrorism-list-w-calla-walsh-jorge-rocha
racoon@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 191d
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 191d
The "holodomor" is Nazi Banderite propaganda. There was a famine in an area that was prone to famine for centuries prior. It was not targeted at Ukraine, it also affected Kazakhstan and western Russia. It was also the last time they had a famine.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 191d
They had one more after WW2 but this one is never mentioned in western media because "nazis deliberately causing starvation by destroying half of USSR agriculture and murdering millions of Ukrainians, Belarussians and Russians" is going against western narrations.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 191d
Yeah I probably should have specified last natural famine. Even then kulaks worsened it beyond what it should have been through burning crops and slaughtering livestock.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 191d
Fuck off with your holodomor BS
Riverside@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 191d
rapchee@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 191d
yeah they had a famine in the soviet union, but the ukranians starved to death in millions
Riverside@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 191d
rapchee@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 191d
yeah there was no way to deliver food there, especially not from foreign countries that offered aid. also not possible to let people leave
Riverside@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 191d
rapchee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
so they decided the potential industrial progress was worth however many deaths in the ukranian region
not someone i would like to associate with
also, it is a useless thought exercise, but would they have been crushed by the nazis? in the end, it was the winter that they didn't prepare adequately for, plus the usa sent a bunch of equipment over, maybe they'd have sent more, if needed
Riverside@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 191d
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
so?
Want to blame the evil RuZZians for it like those Banderite nazis do bcs they got their ass kicked? LOL
rapchee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 191d
who else was leading the soviet union? who exported the food out of ukraine? much like in the irish famine?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 190d
You have zero knowledge how the SU even worked.
Where do you think Chruchov came from? The clown who gave Russian Crimea to that temporary anomaly.
IDC what you and your nazi friends imagine happened, it's BS.
Grasping at straws to justify their Russophobia and blatant fascism.
For everyone to see, even today.
rapchee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 190d
not quite zero, but i'll admit, i'm not super knowledgeable
does it matter? did the ukranian people do it to themselves if that guy was from there originally?
did/does it help the georgians that stalin was from there?
russians keep serving pretty thick and sturdy straws
also, til, criticising the soviet union/russia is fascism
altphoto@lemmy.today · -10 pts · 192d
If we got to vote for it sure. But we have no voice. This is just assholes doing asshole things.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · -23 pts · 192d
The sanctions really should have ended when Castro died at the latest, but I still won't call Cuba a socialist country. It's a communist one. It's under a high amount of control. You'll get thrown in prison for criticism, internet access is limited, and not everyone is on an equal footing there. Communist or not, the sanctions are still completely bullshit.
_lunar@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 192d
DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 192d
Riverside@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 191d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -27 pts · 191d
If I were a super perfect president of the United States, I would ask Cuba if they want to join the Union, with all rights and benefits that goes with being a State. This offer also would be extended to territories like Puerto Rico.
IMO, Cuba and other island States have a special potential - as places to try out UBI, universal healthcare, free education at all levels, and other reforms, that can't be easily implemented in isolation* on the mainland.
*Specifically, I want to try different variations of implementation, to find the best 'recipe' for an improved democratic socialism. Islands are good for A/B/C testing, I wager.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 36 pts · 191d
Even an Americans self fulfillment fantasy of being the bestest us president that ever was involves the annexation of Cuba. You guys got a problem.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -21 pts · 191d
I said "offer to join the union". If rejected, then America should simply end embargoes and all of that crap. In any case, I suspect you have an issue, because you don't want Cuba to have opportunities of any kind. People are being hurt on Cuba, because they have been denied prosperity by selfish dickheads who can't think of a better future.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 191d
Your comments here are soaked in US chauvinism.
Cuba is already sovereign. It does not need to be “invited” into the empire that has spent over 60 years trying to strangle it. Treating another nation as a potential US “state” or “test lab” is naked colonial thinking.
Also calling the islands places for “A/B testing” social policy is grotesque. You’re talking about real people, not sandbox populations. Cuba already guarantees universal healthcare, free education at all levels, housing rights, and food subsidies despite being under one of the longest economic sieges in modern history. The US can’t even provide those basics to its own working class.
The blockade isn’t some abstract policy disagreement. It blocks fuel, medicine, banking access, shipping insurance, medical equipment, and even disaster relief. It’s collective punishment imposed by the United States. Every year almost the entire world votes at the UN to end it. Washington ignores them.
To add to this Puerto Rico is not some inspiring example of US “opportunity.” Puerto Rico is a US colony with no voting representation in Congress, crushed by debt, austerity, and privatization imposed by Washington. If that’s your model, it’s an indictment of your beliefs.
And finally Cuba does not need Amerikkkans to teach it socialism. Cuba built a functioning public health system, biotech sector, disaster response model, and mass literacy campaign while under siege something the US ruling class hasn't even properly accomplished for its own despite ruling most of the world with a bloodied iron fist.
If you actually cared about Cubans, you'd drop the annexation fantasies. Your grotesque idea of “testing grounds.” and ridiculous imperial “offers.”
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -19 pts · 191d
I have a feeling that your hypernationalism isn't to help people, but rather to lash out at the United States. You don't look any different from the Republicans in my nation.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 191d
You're completely lost. If I were to guess, you're getting some kind of benefit from psychologically transferring qualities that you see in America to yourself, and then taking criticism of America as a personal threat. Since we're analyzing each other.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -9 pts · 191d
I don't like America, at least not the one that I live in. What I want is a better America, based on socialist ideology and direct democracy.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 7 pts · 191d
🤨
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 191d
Where have I ever been hyper nationalist or even nationalist at all? You just don't want to contend with the fact that you're pro imperialism and colonialism and an outright chauvinist as long as it has good pr.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 191d
The problem is that they actually believe their own ~~bullshit ~~ internal propaganda that they are the best at everything.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 191d
Hypernationalism is when you don't want to be colony sucked dry by the Wall Street oligarchs 🙄
ragepaw@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 191d
Apparently it's not just your president that's pudding brained.
The only people that think your country is great are the ones there who have never been anywhere else.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 191d
Oh, so just like how trump offered Canada and Greenland to join the union. Get you some of that self awareness mate
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -9 pts · 191d
My thought process is very different from the Orange Man, thank you very much. While I obviously would have to ask experts in this hypothetical scenario about what resources former territories and Cuba would need, my focus is three things:
1: Allow these lands to become prosperous for their people's benefit. This is regardless of whether they become part of the Union as States, or as independent countries. People should live a decent life. Either way, mutual trade is a keystone.
2: Try out different structures of authority for resources and services in each different socialist State. Boring but important stuff, like how many departments are needed to distribute resources, checks and balances, anti-corruption measures, ect. Assuming a presidency of two terms, it is only 8 precious years to figure out a good way forward. Thus, A/B/C testing.
3: If a good model of practical social democracy is developed, try to spread it, and standardize the socialism for the testing States.
sen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 191d
I think your heart is in the right place but your brain needs a few minutes to catch up and slap some sense into it.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 191d
This is bait right? I've just been caught by a master fisherman right? No way is this for real.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 191d
Literally the only thing that has prevented Cuban prosperity is US interference.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 191d
How about just ending the embargo?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 191d
you people are deluded.
No different than some missionary biblethumper peddling his poison thinking he has something great to offer.
your union can get fucked.
Build a wall around it, stay behind it and leave the world alone.
Riverside@reddthat.com · 20 pts · 191d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -11 pts · 191d
Where do you think remodeling gets started? Having the US being jealous of Cuba's prosperity would do much to help convince the states to become better.
Riverside@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 191d
Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 191d
Oh honey. No. That is not how this works.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 191d
Why the fuck would they want to do that?
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 191d
Jesus fuck, read the room. NO COUNTRY WANTS THAT.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · -19 pts · 191d
How does your position help Cuba?
ragepaw@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 191d
By not making it an imperialist conquest by a dying empire. It helps by not dragging Cuba down. It helps by letting Cuba dictate it's own fate, and not by a bunch of feudalist technocrats. It helps by not having to have Cubans eat the psychic damage caused by become complicit with an evil regime that's ok with committing genocide if it makes a rich asshole slightly richer. It helps by not having it be ruled by a narcissistic psychopathic pudding brained man-baby, who believes he is the smartest person in the world, but is so incompetent at everything, he could fuck up a cheese sandwich.
Jesus fuck... why would anyone want to join that shithole.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 191d
"Your position?" Dude. My position is that suggesting annexation of Cuba is incredibly tone deaf and generally offensive. My position isn't meant to directly help or harm Cuba, it's meant to protect objectivity, which of course helps all good faith actors.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 191d
Nobody sane would want to be part of the US banana republic.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 191d
And if they say no you'll definitely leave them alone after that right?
Also, who do you think Cuba broke free from.
"Latino island dwellers are the perfect guina pigs for me to test my half baked ideas to avoid inconveniencing white people when they fail spectacularly"
Cuba is already democratic socialist. And it's working very well in spite of how much effort the richest country in the world puts into killing it.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 191d
it's impressive that they've lasted this long
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 191d
My admiration for the grit, gumption and resilience is boundless.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 190d
and sacrifice; there's no way i could sacrifice as much as they have.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 190d
100
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 190d
Dr. Mengele joins the DSA.
Alpha71@lemmy.world · -30 pts · 192d
I dunno, maybe helping to almost end the world in 1962 plays a small part in it.
cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 192d
Maybe if the US hadn’t tried to invade Cuba the year before they wouldn’t have requested Soviet assistance. Also maybe the US shouldn’t have placed nukes in Turkey if it didn’t want the soviets to do something similar.
GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 192d
Maybe study the whole story before writing. From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 192d
Oh Lord, he broke out fedopedia...
Alpha71@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 192d
I am aware of the whole story. It still doesn't change the fact that they were complicit in almost ending the world. I will say that it doesn't excuse America's current behavior.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 191d
What a fascist bootlicking take. Blaming Cuba for the US deploying nuclear weapons on an apocalyptic scale AND STILL FUCKING DEPLOYING THEM DOING TO THIS DAY.
You must really have your head shoved waaay up the eagle's rotten asshole to come up with something that backwards.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 191d
Less complicit than the USA, and Cuba didn't play a role in any of the other ways the USA has PERHAPS SUCCESSFULLY ended the world.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 192d
If only Cuba had been the sole player in that saga. Instead of a pawn between the USSR and USA.
Alpha71@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 192d
True, true, true...
Except for Castro publicly going on about how Russia should have never backed down.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 192d
So you support Chinese reclamation of Taiwan
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 191d
shit americans say
peoflor@lemmy.ml · -31 pts · 192d
Cuba is terrible; its own allies have turned their backs on it and dug its own grave.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 192d
Cuba is absolutely gorgeous, and it's a shame that the conservatives have been lying about what we are doing, at their directives for the last 50 years.
Pfeffy@lemmy.world · -31 pts · 192d
I don't understand why I have to see this posted multiple times when I've blocked the poster over and over.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 192d
I guess you can't escape the truth
Maeve@kbin.earth · 18 pts · 192d
"A lie travels quickly, but the truth endures."
_lunar@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 192d
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 191d
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 192d
We are going to keep posting it until you understand.
neonghost@lemmy.ca · -36 pts · 192d
Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 192d
“Autarky doesn’t work” is something that all economists - from the Marxist to the Austrian - agree on. Every country must exchange the commodities and resources it can produce for the ones it can’t. The large countries blessed with large populations and an abundance of resources (USA, Russia, et al) can get away with a bit better. But a small, resource-poor island with a centuries-long history of colonial exploitation? To imply that Cuba’s economic woes stem from anything other than being mostly cut off from international trade strains credulity.
peoflor@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 192d
Do people think that criticizing Cuba makes you not a socialist? Is that the kind of life you want for yourself? (Eating from the garbage)
Maeve@kbin.earth · 21 pts · 192d
Cuba's president can march with his people in the streets without needing security detail. Our politicians can't.
peoflor@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 191d
Find a YouTube video Subtitles of any cuban In their daily lives
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 191d
You have no idea what you're talking about, and upvote your own comments. 🤣🤣🤣
davel@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 192d
You are blaming the victim of US imperialism.
GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 192d
That makes you similar to Noam Chomsky
Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 192d
What?