I thought it was established that IQ is a racist and flawed way to measure intelligence. But now that you can use it to hate on others, it is suddenly ok to use.
It seems you suffer from some misconceptions while being aware of some moderately obscure truth.
First of all, good on yer that you know that IQ is normalized to 100. The problem is that this is true for some particular group of people. I'm not sure offhand what body does this normalization and what population they use, but thankfully, that knowledge doesn't matter.
Any particular group of people will probably not have an average IQ of 100. Only the full body of people it's normalized to will.
So if they normalize IQ to all USians, the average IQ in other countries will naturally be somewhat close to 100 (probably), but not precisely 100. So move people elsewhere and the average IQ of the destination country will change by some probably-relatively-small amount.
Or, if the entire world is normalized to 100, then the average IQ in NO countries is precisely 100, and moving people around will still change the average.
So I'm afraid you need to back up your clapbacks and take another think through on this, friend.
It really is painful to read this kind of arrogant ignorance
You really should check a mirror, bub.
But it's okay, continue on and wallow in your own willful ignorance.
Or feel ABSOLUTELY free to try and actually answer what I said.
I'm not surprised you picked up on my lack of caring to find out the organizing body. It doesn't invalidate the truth of anything I said. But you ignore the truth and pick what you think is a GOTCHA.
It's not a flex, kiddo. It just reinforces how stupid you make yourself look.
Based on the downvotes your getting. Quite a few of the people excited for this are definitely migrating to the left of the bell curve.
Lemmy is wierd, the user base has a very inflated view of their own intelligence. For example, some will get confused and think since I'm on Lemmy I must be also guilty of this; their reasoning skills are quite terrible.
Exactly. So what are they gonna do then eh? What country is going to be flooded with their pedophiles? Fuck off. They have more people incarcerated than the rest of the world combined, maybe if they incarcerated pedophiles and powerful criminals instead of minorities and poor people the whole problem would be fixed. Their billionaires would be incarcerated, so maybe also take away their wealth and use it to create a social system so people in general will get a higher standard of living, reducing the need to turn to crime, increasing education giving people a better future, keeping people healthy and fit so they can keep working and provide for themselves.
But instead they pick on the people who do the dirty jobs they don't want to do while protecting the worst criminals (pedos) and filling the pockets of their wealthiest even more at the cost of the rest of its citizens. Citizens, many of which voted for this. A true dystopia.
So I totally agree with you.
Dear US: Please, keep your shit inside your own borders, we're fucking done with you assholes, don't bother us with your problems.
Antarctica is protected, it is inhabited by only scientists.
Why do you want to ruin Antarctica with selfish wasteful pieces of shit. Just dump them in the middle of the ocean so at least they can be useful (for a change) as fish food.
They are put in reservations or incarcerated to be forced to work without pay and new scientists are seen as immigrants. Only the older scientists have rights.
Whatever happened to that scam where they were going to send a bunch of people to live on Mars? Let's revive that for them. But actually send them, say, to Venus.
Edit: I have to laugh at the downvote. Were they mad because I said the Mars colony thing was a scam? Or were they mad at the thought of being deported? LOL
Can even turn Venus into an easier direct sell. It's a lot bigger than Mars (more land = more money), actually has an atmosphere, is named after a Roman sex goddess, and is 100% free of communism (the USSR's probes were destroyed).
Sure, the scientists warn that the greenhouse effect causes Venus's temperature to exceed 400°C on the surface, but they already know those scientists are full of shit because the greenhouse effect is fake news.
I keep telling my InfoSec department if no one can sign into their computer, it’s the most secured environment they’ll ever have, but for some reason they don’t think it is as funny as I do.
That's the joke (and why I said I was 'measuring' them) - I was making fun of myself for being wrong while also doubling down on the fact that they're garbage pedos. It's a win-win. Sorry, my sense of humor isn't always the most apparent.
I am reasonably confident that you can explain Trump's 2020 election loss by way of the disproportionate number of COVID casualties and deaths in Red areas vs Blue areas.
Basically, if Trump/MAGA had actually responded to COVID sensibly, as sensibly as Blue areas did, on average, accounting for population density...
Trump would have actually won.
But so many MAGA voters died or were disabled from voting, by COVID, that they instead lost, and then further went nuts, and didn't believe it, and attempted an insurrection.
Trump won in '24 because of inflation. It's that simple. People hated the economy under Biden and walked to 'go back' to the Trump years when things were better.
And Harris didn't basically told voters the economy is great let's not change a thing... and most people who weren't die hard liberal/leftists were disgusted by that because they saw prices going up and their wages staying the same.
Bullshit. Trump won because he, Musk, and Putin rigged the election, then MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries betrayed AMERICA, and let them get away with it, and EVERYBODY knows it.
So did Musk, and they BOTH had multiple meetings with Putin during the Biden Administration. Aren't our intelligence agencies supposed to be arresting people who are having undisclosed meetings with hostile foreign leaders? So why didn't they?
Also, most 'die hard leftists' were disgusted by Kamala's pro-Genocide stance... the Dems did basically everything they possibly could to obfuscate and deny and/or justify that, leftists were fucking furious about it.
And a pretty good deal of actual leftists were saying 'all these economic numbers that politicians and the media are touting are bullshit, they're incomplete, they are not reflective of reality'.
And well now we have all the job revisions and yep that was correct, I think the BLS has now 'un addded' something like 2-3 million jobs between 2022 and present.
You're conflating liberals and leftists, which betrays that you have no idea what a leftist is.
Its liberals that fall in line with standard corporate Dem talking points.
corporate Dems have power, leftists don't, and never will because they'd rather sit around bitching and whining and agonizing about what is 'really leftist'.
Well its not like you'd have any understanding of what is or isn't really leftist.
Here's a hint:
Opposing massive government handouts to huge megacorporations.
Opposing biased legal standards and tax structures that massively favor the wealthy being able to accumulate more wealth, at the expense of the poor.
Opposing idiotic broad general tariffs that have historically and are currently exacerbating an ongoing Great Depression.
But, fascists love doing all those things, because they are economically illiterate and/or openly, brazenly corrupt.
And now, for more vocab, if you oppose these fascist policies, you are now anti-fascist, otherwise known as antifa.
But fascists cannot comprehend the idea that anyone could disagree with them, and also have the gall to continue being alive, so they label everyone who does as a terrorist, and have lately started executing such people in the street.
Mhm, I see, yes, voted for the child murdering rapist pedophile conman.
Ah.
Not a great look.
Anyway, you'e been expelled from the 'Leftism Understander' class due to being an obvious idiot troll, please collect your things or they will be equitably redistributed amongst the remaining students, according to their need.
Evidence shows both undocumented and legal immigrants in the U.S. consistently have much lower crime and incarceration rates than natives across crime categories. This trend challenges popular beliefs and highlights the importance of accurate data for fair immigration and criminal justice policies, emphasizing immigrant contributions to safety.
So, its literally true that if you deported all native born citizens and left only immigrants, the crime rate would go down.
Thus, if you deport a subset of native born citizens, the same still applies.
So this also means that mass deporting all immigrants, regardless of their actual criminal record... well that would necessarily increase the crime rate overall.
I really hope people continue to talk about this more, because this feels to me like it’s one of the most successful lies of the Trump admin (and, as I understand it, other right-wing nationalist movements around the world)
Even counting all who voted for them, as the voter turnout was 64%. I'm not sure how much of the population 100% would be with that voter registration system the US has (is 100% all registered voters or all that could in theory register), but even if 100% was all the population, it would only be around 35% MAGA voters
So we should point and be vocal about the apathetic non-voters, who would rather not use a system and ignore it, then get to the streets and change it. At least the average marga voter had the energy and conviction to vote.
We would also rid ourselves of the biggest social security and welfare leeches in the country so there's that lol. Don't forget we all pay for MAGAs stupidity in one way or another it's a shared burden
According to USDA 37% of SNAP receipts are white and tend to be in red states so one could make an assumption or two. Of course hard to say for sure without voter data, so impossible to prove any of my incoherent ramblings. Take with grain of salt
White Americans are a larger share of the population, so the math has to reflect that. Context matters. And if we’re discussing support for low-income Americans, include all major programs: SNAP, Medicaid, TANF, housing assistance....not just selective data points.
This isn’t about Trumpty dumpty. It’s about getting the numbers right.
Well then get the numbers right, lol. To begin with, there is no possible way that you truly believe that anywhere near 55% of this country is MAGA or maga supporters... especially after the way Trump is handling.... everything. MAGA is just the whiniest and loudest right now. Yes, you do have the diehard people who overdose on copium saying "this is what I voted for!" but at this point, that component of it has to just be people who like that he made it okay to be wildly racist, and a pedophile.
Also, an unknown number of them are completely fabricated via internet bots and propped up by Elon Musk via a wildly fictional election and voter numbers. MAGA is not real in any way. It's almost all an illusion...smoke and mirrors type shit.
You’re stacking speculation on emotion. In 2024, Trump pulled nearly 50% of the actual popular vote, over 77 million real ballots. That’s nowhere near 55% of the country, but it’s also not bots or an illusion.
Trump sucks, sure, but emotional blowhards like you keep costing us Dems elections with this extremism. Pretending real voters don’t exist isn’t strategy, it’s self-sabotage.
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vpol@feddit.uk · 125 pts · 204d
And average IQ will increase. It’s a win-win situation.
frog@feddit.uk · 39 pts · 204d
Not the country you deport them to. Lol
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 53 pts · 204d
Just deport them to Israel. They seem to be quite enamored with it anyway.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
I can’t imagine that working out great for Gazans. Maybe Russia?
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 204d
Out the airlock, maybe?
Shit sorry this is turning into a Heinlein trope
vpol@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 204d
Just find the country with even more stupid people.
neatchee@piefed.social · 19 pts · 204d
Error 404: Country not found
Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 204d
There isn’t one.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 6 pts · 203d
I assume most of them will have no citizenship in a second country for them to be accepted in.
A pragmatic solution would be to deport them out to sea.
frog@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 203d
There's a floating island of plastic. It's perfect since they love oil so much.
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 203d
Send them to Antarctica, so they can walk with the penguin.
harmbugler@piefed.social · -2 pts · 203d
Deport them to Nambia or Aberbaijan.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 203d
arkansas, what. Where do you want least?
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 203d
You are right and I get what you are saying but just for the record:
Of course it's not a person's IQ that determines if they are wanted or not <3
Reliant1087@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Good point. The difference between wisdom and intelligence. You don't need high IQ to be wise.
youpie@lemmy.emphisia.nl · 1 pts · 203d
I thought it was established that IQ is a racist and flawed way to measure intelligence. But now that you can use it to hate on others, it is suddenly ok to use.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -24 pts · 204d
đź‘Ź That's đź‘Ź not đź‘Ź how đź‘Ź IQ đź‘Ź works đź‘Ź
The average IQ is 100. It's always 100. I hate people who talk about IQ because they are annoyingly wrong seven ways from Sunday every fucking time.
Liberals stop tacitly endorsing euthenics challenge: Way Harder Than You'd Think
God fucking Damnit this county sucks. Death to Amerikkka
daychilde@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 204d
It seems you suffer from some misconceptions while being aware of some moderately obscure truth.
First of all, good on yer that you know that IQ is normalized to 100. The problem is that this is true for some particular group of people. I'm not sure offhand what body does this normalization and what population they use, but thankfully, that knowledge doesn't matter.
Any particular group of people will probably not have an average IQ of 100. Only the full body of people it's normalized to will.
So if they normalize IQ to all USians, the average IQ in other countries will naturally be somewhat close to 100 (probably), but not precisely 100. So move people elsewhere and the average IQ of the destination country will change by some probably-relatively-small amount.
Or, if the entire world is normalized to 100, then the average IQ in NO countries is precisely 100, and moving people around will still change the average.
So I'm afraid you need to back up your clapbacks and take another think through on this, friend.
You should broaden your horizons. :)
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 204d
:-|
God damn, I hate you people
It really is painful to read this kind of arrogant ignorance
daychilde@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 204d
You really should check a mirror, bub.
But it's okay, continue on and wallow in your own willful ignorance.
Or feel ABSOLUTELY free to try and actually answer what I said.
I'm not surprised you picked up on my lack of caring to find out the organizing body. It doesn't invalidate the truth of anything I said. But you ignore the truth and pick what you think is a GOTCHA.
It's not a flex, kiddo. It just reinforces how stupid you make yourself look.
Ignorant fuck.
ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 204d
Crashed out before even reading the whole thing...
Enkrod@feddit.org · 1 pts · 203d
Then enlighten us Weevil, how does it work?
MTZ@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
This is a shitposting group. Everything posted here is 100% real and true, even if it isn't.
ulterno@programming.dev · 3 pts · 203d
Taking international IQ as 100, they can talk about the average IQ in the country.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d
Based on the downvotes your getting. Quite a few of the people excited for this are definitely migrating to the left of the bell curve.
Lemmy is wierd, the user base has a very inflated view of their own intelligence. For example, some will get confused and think since I'm on Lemmy I must be also guilty of this; their reasoning skills are quite terrible.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 55 pts · 204d
They seem to like Israel, maybe that would be a nice place for them ..
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca · 37 pts · 204d
Send them over to Russia please.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 28 pts · 204d
Straight to the front lines, where Ukrainian soldiers can put them out of everybody's misery.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d
MTZ@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
That
metaphorsimile is amazing. Bravo.speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 204d
Fuck that shit. We don’t want your garbage. That country has already shit on us enough for generations.
lady_maria@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 204d
I second the suggestion to give them to Israel.
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 203d
The Palestinians have suffered more than enough, and the US is entirely complicit in that suffering already.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 203d
Exactly. So what are they gonna do then eh? What country is going to be flooded with their pedophiles? Fuck off. They have more people incarcerated than the rest of the world combined, maybe if they incarcerated pedophiles and powerful criminals instead of minorities and poor people the whole problem would be fixed. Their billionaires would be incarcerated, so maybe also take away their wealth and use it to create a social system so people in general will get a higher standard of living, reducing the need to turn to crime, increasing education giving people a better future, keeping people healthy and fit so they can keep working and provide for themselves.
But instead they pick on the people who do the dirty jobs they don't want to do while protecting the worst criminals (pedos) and filling the pockets of their wealthiest even more at the cost of the rest of its citizens. Citizens, many of which voted for this. A true dystopia.
So I totally agree with you.
DearUS: Please, keep your shit inside your own borders, we're fucking done with you assholes, don't bother us with your problems.Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 203d
We can deport them to Antarctica. Or the sun. 🤷‍♂️
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 203d
Antarctica is protected, it is inhabited by only scientists.
Why do you want to ruin Antarctica with selfish wasteful pieces of shit. Just dump them in the middle of the ocean so at least they can be useful (for a change) as fish food.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
Hang on a minute that's some colonialist bullshit, the penguins were there first
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d
They are put in reservations or incarcerated to be forced to work without pay and new scientists are seen as immigrants. Only the older scientists have rights.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 203d
The MAGA to Russia immigration pipeline was a thing for a while.
Maybe they'll take them?
limelight79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Whatever happened to that scam where they were going to send a bunch of people to live on Mars? Let's revive that for them. But actually send them, say, to Venus.
Edit: I have to laugh at the downvote. Were they mad because I said the Mars colony thing was a scam? Or were they mad at the thought of being deported? LOL
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
Can even turn Venus into an easier direct sell. It's a lot bigger than Mars (more land = more money), actually has an atmosphere, is named after a Roman sex goddess, and is 100% free of communism (the USSR's probes were destroyed).
Sure, the scientists warn that the greenhouse effect causes Venus's temperature to exceed 400°C on the surface, but they already know those scientists are full of shit because the greenhouse effect is fake news.
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d
This is glorious and I’m convinced!
First_Thunder@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 204d
Revilutionary idea: If you deport everyone, the crime rate drops to 0
/s
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 204d
I keep telling my InfoSec department if no one can sign into their computer, it’s the most secured environment they’ll ever have, but for some reason they don’t think it is as funny as I do.
First_Thunder@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 204d
Clearly you didn’t put a /s afterwards and didn’t understand you were being sarcastic
gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 204d
Zing!
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 204d
standing beside the server nobody can log into "...sarcasm?"
muxika@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 204d
Promote vim and you'll get similar results. If you can't :wq, then you can't screw anything up.
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 204d
Everyone knows eMacs is the one true editor, you heathen! (/s; started with vim but have since moved to nano…)
Godort@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 204d
Authentication
Audit
Access
The ability for the correct people to access the information is just as important as the steps to secure it or review who accessed what and when.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 203d
That's because you don't understand infosec. It's assure you, they are unimpressed despite their polite chuckle.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 204d
Interestingly, if you deport everyone except the president, the crime rate skyrockets to 100%.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 204d
Nah, he'll just lay claim to everything left behind with an executive order.
leftascenter@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 204d
The last survivor decides no crime exist and achieves complete enlightenment with a better zero.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 203d
I just read this to my mom, and said "MAGAs commit WAY more crime than immigrants," and she replied, "MAGAs commit way more crime than EVERYBODY."
MTZ@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
Based mom.
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 204d
And you would have less pedophiles
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 204d
Fewer
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 204d
They are so unified in the fact that they are all lower than garbage that I've started measuring them by the gallon rather than the person.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 203d
Gallons are still countable.
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
That's the joke (and why I said I was 'measuring' them) - I was making fun of myself for being wrong while also doubling down on the fact that they're garbage pedos. It's a win-win. Sorry, my sense of humor isn't always the most apparent.
ulterno@programming.dev · 1 pts · 203d
I think the average paedophile would take more than a gallon of space, so that will just increase the number you have to use for the calculation.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 204d
Same for drunk driving if you took the keys from everyone in a Ram 2500, and the overlap is significant.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 204d
Don't forget CyberDumpsters.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 203d
I am reasonably confident that you can explain Trump's 2020 election loss by way of the disproportionate number of COVID casualties and deaths in Red areas vs Blue areas.
Basically, if Trump/MAGA had actually responded to COVID sensibly, as sensibly as Blue areas did, on average, accounting for population density...
Trump would have actually won.
But so many MAGA voters died or were disabled from voting, by COVID, that they instead lost, and then further went nuts, and didn't believe it, and attempted an insurrection.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 203d
Trump won in '24 because of inflation. It's that simple. People hated the economy under Biden and walked to 'go back' to the Trump years when things were better.
And Harris didn't basically told voters the economy is great let's not change a thing... and most people who weren't die hard liberal/leftists were disgusted by that because they saw prices going up and their wages staying the same.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 203d
Prices going up and wages staying the same?
The same way it's been for more than a decade?
And this is the basis that people used to justify voting for Trump?
People really are fucking stupid, aren't they?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 203d
I didn't expect to catch one in the wild, but evidently they just can't help themselves.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 203d
To put it mildly.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 203d
A decade? The last time the minimum wage increased was nearly 20 years ago.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 203d
Technically they did say “more than a decade”
nieminen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 203d
Bullshit. Trump won because he, Musk, and Putin rigged the election, then MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries betrayed AMERICA, and let them get away with it, and EVERYBODY knows it.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 203d
Trump admitted as much on camera
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 203d
So did Musk, and they BOTH had multiple meetings with Putin during the Biden Administration. Aren't our intelligence agencies supposed to be arresting people who are having undisclosed meetings with hostile foreign leaders? So why didn't they?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 203d
Ok.
I was talking about 2020.
The one before the one you are talking about.
Also, most 'die hard leftists' were disgusted by Kamala's pro-Genocide stance... the Dems did basically everything they possibly could to obfuscate and deny and/or justify that, leftists were fucking furious about it.
And a pretty good deal of actual leftists were saying 'all these economic numbers that politicians and the media are touting are bullshit, they're incomplete, they are not reflective of reality'.
And well now we have all the job revisions and yep that was correct, I think the BLS has now 'un addded' something like 2-3 million jobs between 2022 and present.
You're conflating liberals and leftists, which betrays that you have no idea what a leftist is.
Its liberals that fall in line with standard corporate Dem talking points.
Leftists tend to challenge and critique them.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
corporate Dems have power, leftists don't, and never will because they'd rather sit around bitching and whining and agonizing about what is 'really leftist'.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 203d
Well its not like you'd have any understanding of what is or isn't really leftist.
Here's a hint:
Opposing massive government handouts to huge megacorporations.
Opposing biased legal standards and tax structures that massively favor the wealthy being able to accumulate more wealth, at the expense of the poor.
Opposing idiotic broad general tariffs that have historically and are currently exacerbating an ongoing Great Depression.
But, fascists love doing all those things, because they are economically illiterate and/or openly, brazenly corrupt.
And now, for more vocab, if you oppose these fascist policies, you are now anti-fascist, otherwise known as antifa.
But fascists cannot comprehend the idea that anyone could disagree with them, and also have the gall to continue being alive, so they label everyone who does as a terrorist, and have lately started executing such people in the street.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
Who does? You? Are you the only true leftists who determines who is truly a leftist?
or is there a standardized test I have to pass? like a driver's license test?
What happens when the leftists become the fascists?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 203d
Sure, yeah, there's a test.
Papers please!
Mhm, I see, yes, voted for the child murdering rapist pedophile conman.
Ah.
Not a great look.
Anyway, you'e been expelled from the 'Leftism Understander' class due to being an obvious idiot troll, please collect your things or they will be equitably redistributed amongst the remaining students, according to their need.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
so if a black single mom of 3 voted for Trump because she felt he would lower her bills, is she is a facist?
durably465@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 203d
Please keep your domestic problems.
Keep your mass shooting, keep your pedolover, keep your exceptionalism.
The world is a way better place without your crazynes
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 203d
Just ship them to Russia, it’s where they all think they want to live anyways to get away from woke.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
Surely there is some remote and uninhabited island they could go infest
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
Deport to Atlantis.
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
I mentioned in another comment, the world can always use more compost for farming.
bonus_crab@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 203d
Tbh theyd probably fit in in australia. Kinda the original intent of the place no?
Nottalottapies@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 203d
Nah, the poms sent petty criminals here. We don't need these redneck lunatics
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 203d
What does "statistically" mean to you?
Bgugi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
My source is I made it the fuck up!
trashboat@piefed.social · 8 pts · 204d
My gut says this is very likely true but is there a verified stat that backs this up?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 203d
Yes.
https://www.visaverge.com/legal/crime-rates-lower-among-undocumented-immigrants-than-us-natives/
So, its literally true that if you deported all native born citizens and left only immigrants, the crime rate would go down.
Thus, if you deport a subset of native born citizens, the same still applies.
So this also means that mass deporting all immigrants, regardless of their actual criminal record... well that would necessarily increase the crime rate overall.
trashboat@piefed.social · 3 pts · 203d
I really hope people continue to talk about this more, because this feels to me like it’s one of the most successful lies of the Trump admin (and, as I understand it, other right-wing nationalist movements around the world)
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 203d
I mean, I thought this was common knowledge, but apparently it isn't.
I'm also an autistic data analyst type of person, so I just ... actually do consume data and reports and such basically for fun.
But anyway yeah, the entire right wing narrative on this is wholly ass backwards and based on not just lies, but a literal inversion of reality.
Fascists gonna fascist.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
The wording of "natives" in the article confused me for a bit lmao. Thanks for clearing that up.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 203d
Any time!
Thanks for appreciating my data dump lol.
marcos@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 204d
Please don't send your worst.
X@piefed.world · 5 pts · 204d
Put cecot to good use. I’ve been calling for their deportation for a while now.
BanaramaClamcrotch@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 202d
Is there a source for this? Not that I disagree, I’m just curious and want to throw it at rightoids
Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 201d
It comes down to the definition of MAGA supporters.
Let's say everyone who voted for Trump gets deported.
Now basically half or rather one third of America is gone.... Well crime rates will drop definitely.
Cloudstash@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 204d
Not only would we get lower crime we’d get better food and beer
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
51% more space on that commute to work!
voytrekk@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 202d
Nobody would want them though. Maybe we could move them all to Texas and let them be independent again.
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
We can always use more compost. May take a while, but then they'd actually be useful for something.
Astrius@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 203d
I do truly wonder how many incarcerated people are Republicans / MAGA.
I’d imagine it is a minority compared to people who support Democrats.
Poverty creates crime.
village604@adultswim.fan · 7 pts · 203d
Lol, you think a substantial amount of Republican voters aren't living in poverty?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 203d
Poverty creates Republicans. However they usually get away with it so it's not considered a crime.
It would be an interesting study.
Of incarcerated people, roughly half support Trump which mimics the national average.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/10/18/journalism-election-survey-prisons-jails-voting
MTZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · -8 pts · 203d
Idk, with 55% of the population gone....the market plummet would happen and you'd be in the worst great depression Eva Eva eva.
But dont let me ruin your fantasy!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 203d
it's closer to 20 percent but don't let math distract you
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Oh are you not counting the % that voted or just the mad ones who are vocal about MAGA.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
real quick, what percentage voted for him and how many statesians are there
crater2150@feddit.org · 1 pts · 202d
Even counting all who voted for them, as the voter turnout was 64%. I'm not sure how much of the population 100% would be with that voter registration system the US has (is 100% all registered voters or all that could in theory register), but even if 100% was all the population, it would only be around 35% MAGA voters
Vile_port_aloo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 200d
So we should point and be vocal about the apathetic non-voters, who would rather not use a system and ignore it, then get to the streets and change it. At least the average marga voter had the energy and conviction to vote.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 203d
Minnesota is the place where abortion is legal, but it really should be mandatory.
innermachine@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 203d
We would also rid ourselves of the biggest social security and welfare leeches in the country so there's that lol. Don't forget we all pay for MAGAs stupidity in one way or another it's a shared burden
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 203d
Source?
innermachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
According to USDA 37% of SNAP receipts are white and tend to be in red states so one could make an assumption or two. Of course hard to say for sure without voter data, so impossible to prove any of my incoherent ramblings. Take with grain of salt
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 203d
White Americans are a larger share of the population, so the math has to reflect that. Context matters. And if we’re discussing support for low-income Americans, include all major programs: SNAP, Medicaid, TANF, housing assistance....not just selective data points.
This isn’t about Trumpty dumpty. It’s about getting the numbers right.
MTZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
Well then get the numbers right, lol. To begin with, there is no possible way that you truly believe that anywhere near 55% of this country is MAGA or maga supporters... especially after the way Trump is handling.... everything. MAGA is just the whiniest and loudest right now. Yes, you do have the diehard people who overdose on copium saying "this is what I voted for!" but at this point, that component of it has to just be people who like that he made it okay to be wildly racist, and a pedophile.
Also, an unknown number of them are completely fabricated via internet bots and propped up by Elon Musk via a wildly fictional election and voter numbers. MAGA is not real in any way. It's almost all an illusion...smoke and mirrors type shit.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 202d
You’re stacking speculation on emotion. In 2024, Trump pulled nearly 50% of the actual popular vote, over 77 million real ballots. That’s nowhere near 55% of the country, but it’s also not bots or an illusion.
Trump sucks, sure, but emotional blowhards like you keep costing us Dems elections with this extremism. Pretending real voters don’t exist isn’t strategy, it’s self-sabotage.