I think this can be explained by the mentality of completely naked means I'm not leaving the house, but naked with shoes means I intend to go somewhere.
As someone diagnosed with PTSD that also has nightmares related to it, I think it’s way underplayed how much public schools give people long term emotional trauma. Not even just bullying, a lot of the expectations schools put on kids are just developmentally unreasonable. It’s not random that so many people have school related nightmares decades after they’ve graduated.
I think nakedness in dreams is just a common theme for vulnerability, but there’s a reason it’s so tied to school for many people, and it’s not because they’re healthy environments that produce well adjusted young adults.
Not just public schools. I went to private school and still woke up with high school nightmares for years as a college graduate.
I think the expectations are a part of it, but I also think it's the fact that it's an extremely stressful time period between expectations for one's future, high hormones, major social changes that happen as everyone's brain cooks at a different speed, and the constant fighting for increased independence.
Like, don't get me wrong I also didn't enjoy being in class, and I've had full on flashbacks to fights with my father over my grades in high school (also have a ptsd diagnosis), but imo the educational elements of high school weren't meaningfully worse than earlier years or college/adulthood. It was being a teenager that was particularly traumatic, and high school was just the location where most of the issues converged
I had the wildest dream where my entire class had to repeat senior year because Covid somehow invalidated our credits. Even though I graduated in 2019...
I don't think I've ever gotten naked in public dreams, but I do still get stress dreams about missing an exam or having to make an assignment deadline despite not having been in school for like 20 years.
I have them where I've forgotten my locker combination or don't have my class schedule. The thing is I actually do remember my last locker combination because I use it as a pin for something so I'm not even sure what my subconscious is on about with that one.
I think it's because of the steps removed you are from becoming non-naked. With no shoes, you're simply an underwear away from being non-naked. But with shoes on, you must bend over, remove your shoes, remove your socks, and only then are you free to install underwear on your naked dingaling. Now imagine if your landlord unexpectedly knocks at the door, and you were naked with no shoes versus with shoes. In the first case, you'd be non-naked in a matter of seconds. Whereas, in the second case, you'd be non-naked in about 15 seconds. Not to mention, you'd be in a very compromising position during those 15 seconds, as you'd be bent over in a strange position fiddling with your shoes over your own naked body. Never discount your brain's ability to plan ahead. And don't think this all isn't taken into account when considering how naked you feel with or without shoes. This, I believe, is one of the primary reasons. Okay, thank you for coming to my TED talk, have a blessed day, and fare thee well!
Reminds me of what an EMT once told me. She mentioned that every EMT inevitably learns two very important questions to ask whenever you encounter someone who is naked in public:
Do you know you’re naked?
Do you want to be naked?
Those two questions will shed a lot of light on the current situation, and will let you gauge how the next 15 minutes is going to go.
I remember getting an episode/panic attack/whatever that was. For solid 5-10 minutes, I felt like boiling from the inside and sweat started to drip from my forehead. I stripped naked and felt more comfortable that way till it passed. Thankfully I was alone, so no awkward experience.
That makes perfect sense actually. It's an effective way of asking "are you aware of what's going on" and "are you intentionally acting in a way that's socially frowned upon and may be illegal".
The first times I went to the swimming pool in rehab, I remember feeling "more than 100%" naked in the changing room - if that makes any sense - because bits of me that used to be deep down inside of me were now only skin-deep. It's a very strange feeling to feel even more naked than naked. Hard to describe.
My feet however... Well no, I don't have phantom limbs. Never had. Not everybody gets them. And I have very little phantom limb pain - which is a different thing. When I do get it, it's either in the form of mild electric shocks, which are easy to deal with and possibly even pleasant like a TENS session, or in the form of terrible itching I can't scratch that can last for up to 3 days.
yes. what's fun is when they cramp. and when the part of you that is cramping is not a part that is available to put up to a mirror to unclench. so you just get to sit there, since your MD believes you've healed. book says you should have years ago.
your MD believes you’ve healed. book says you should have years ago.
If your doc thinks that, change doc.
In my neck of the woods, doctors are so aware of phantom pains that I can literally walk into any doctor's office, even one I've never met before, and ask for a prescription of Gabapentin or opioid of any denomination at any strength no questions asked. If I was still addicted, I would have no supply problem.
I think it's because of the steps removed you are from becoming non-naked. With no shoes, you're simply an underwear away from being non-naked. But with shoes on, you must bend over, remove your shoes, remove your socks, and only then are you free to install underwear on your naked dingaling. Now imagine if your landlord unexpectedly knocks at the door, and you were naked with no shoes versus with shoes. In the first case, you'd be non-naked in a matter of seconds. Whereas, in the second case, you'd be non-naked in about 15 seconds. Not to mention, you'd be in a very compromising position during those 15 seconds, as you'd be bent over in a strange position fiddling with your shoes over your own naked body. Never discount your brain's ability to plan ahead. And don't think this all isn't taken into account when considering how naked you feel with or without shoes. This, I believe, is one of the primary reasons. Okay, thank you for coming to my TED talk, have a blessed day, and fare thee well!
First, it didn't say put on socks and shoes, it said put on shoes. Second, why would you take off your socks before you try to be less naked? Also, I get that you'll probably need to take off your shoes to put on pants but you can certainly get your underwear on over your shoes, right?
I feel like heels makes women firm up their legs. It makes them look more tone, and it makes them have better posture. Also it makes them look taller and smaller feet.
Man invented shoes first, because he was walking through the hot sand and the sharp rocks and the pointy briars, so he invented shoes to protect his feet from the ground. Then he invented pants, because he felt silly standing around naked in his shoes.
As someone who would routinely go around Seattle naked on my bike this is 100% true. Something about shoes and a helmet feels way more naked than actually naked
Even more true if you're one of many who remove shoes in the house. Shoes are an outside thing only and if they're the only thing you have on, something has gone tricky terribly awry.
I see this in some character costume designs that show some (not all) skin. Once in a while, they’re barefoot, and the effect is just a free spirit vibe. But, if they have very bare legs, a big thick pair of sneakers or boots draws attention to the legs, making them look more exposed.
Ever since I was a kid I, and other men, have had to occasionally remind women that if the air conditioning is too cold then can they please just put on a sweater because there's only so much clothing we can remove before we either run out of options or somebody calls the cops.
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officermike@lemmy.world · 157 pts · 161d
I think this can be explained by the mentality of completely naked means I'm not leaving the house, but naked with shoes means I intend to go somewhere.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 57 pts · 161d
And in my nightmares I end up at school, and I graduated 30 years ago.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 161d
As someone diagnosed with PTSD that also has nightmares related to it, I think it’s way underplayed how much public schools give people long term emotional trauma. Not even just bullying, a lot of the expectations schools put on kids are just developmentally unreasonable. It’s not random that so many people have school related nightmares decades after they’ve graduated.
I think nakedness in dreams is just a common theme for vulnerability, but there’s a reason it’s so tied to school for many people, and it’s not because they’re healthy environments that produce well adjusted young adults.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Not just public schools. I went to private school and still woke up with high school nightmares for years as a college graduate.
I think the expectations are a part of it, but I also think it's the fact that it's an extremely stressful time period between expectations for one's future, high hormones, major social changes that happen as everyone's brain cooks at a different speed, and the constant fighting for increased independence.
Like, don't get me wrong I also didn't enjoy being in class, and I've had full on flashbacks to fights with my father over my grades in high school (also have a ptsd diagnosis), but imo the educational elements of high school weren't meaningfully worse than earlier years or college/adulthood. It was being a teenager that was particularly traumatic, and high school was just the location where most of the issues converged
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 19 pts · 160d
if you show up naked to a school at almost 40 i think bad things will happen
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 160d
Yes, everyone else will develop acute glaucoma for some reason.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 160d
nothing cute about glaucoma, buddy
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 160d
Fair enough,I was trying to make a joke about the state of my 50+ saggy bod
Aneb@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 160d
I had the wildest dream where my entire class had to repeat senior year because Covid somehow invalidated our credits. Even though I graduated in 2019...
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 160d
I don't think I've ever gotten naked in public dreams, but I do still get stress dreams about missing an exam or having to make an assignment deadline despite not having been in school for like 20 years.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 160d
I have them where I've forgotten my locker combination or don't have my class schedule. The thing is I actually do remember my last locker combination because I use it as a pin for something so I'm not even sure what my subconscious is on about with that one.
crazyinferno@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 160d
I think it's because of the steps removed you are from becoming non-naked. With no shoes, you're simply an underwear away from being non-naked. But with shoes on, you must bend over, remove your shoes, remove your socks, and only then are you free to install underwear on your naked dingaling. Now imagine if your landlord unexpectedly knocks at the door, and you were naked with no shoes versus with shoes. In the first case, you'd be non-naked in a matter of seconds. Whereas, in the second case, you'd be non-naked in about 15 seconds. Not to mention, you'd be in a very compromising position during those 15 seconds, as you'd be bent over in a strange position fiddling with your shoes over your own naked body. Never discount your brain's ability to plan ahead. And don't think this all isn't taken into account when considering how naked you feel with or without shoes. This, I believe, is one of the primary reasons. Okay, thank you for coming to my TED talk, have a blessed day, and fare thee well!
smh@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 160d
Just toss on a dress and go commando. No need to remove the shoes.
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 160d
Or a trenchcoat
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 158d
::: spoiler .
Gullible
:::
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
This was foreshadowing. Oh dear god
Oisteink@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
It works with socks too
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 161d
So if you're completely naked in public does putting on shoes make you feel less naked? We need a science.
Oisteink@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Yeah - try it
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 81 pts · 160d
Reminds me of what an EMT once told me. She mentioned that every EMT inevitably learns two very important questions to ask whenever you encounter someone who is naked in public:
Those two questions will shed a lot of light on the current situation, and will let you gauge how the next 15 minutes is going to go.
aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 160d
Would "yes, yes" be more entertaining or "no....yes!"
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 18 pts · 160d
No, yes.
Any further questions?
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 160d
I remember getting an episode/panic attack/whatever that was. For solid 5-10 minutes, I felt like boiling from the inside and sweat started to drip from my forehead. I stripped naked and felt more comfortable that way till it passed. Thankfully I was alone, so no awkward experience.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
I need to save this for the shitty religion I'm making pleased not to be the deleting until I can get my thoughts siren please
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 160d
That makes perfect sense actually. It's an effective way of asking "are you aware of what's going on" and "are you intentionally acting in a way that's socially frowned upon and may be illegal".
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
Outside and inside? Edit:and, I forgot, alone?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
No, and yes.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 51 pts · 160d
Or get amputated.
The first times I went to the swimming pool in rehab, I remember feeling "more than 100%" naked in the changing room - if that makes any sense - because bits of me that used to be deep down inside of me were now only skin-deep. It's a very strange feeling to feel even more naked than naked. Hard to describe.
chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 160d
Jeez. I know that's a mind fuck.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 160d
Do you still feel a phantom hand in your head?
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 22 pts · 160d
Well, I still have both my hands, so no 🙂
My feet however... Well no, I don't have phantom limbs. Never had. Not everybody gets them. And I have very little phantom limb pain - which is a different thing. When I do get it, it's either in the form of mild electric shocks, which are easy to deal with and possibly even pleasant like a TENS session, or in the form of terrible itching I can't scratch that can last for up to 3 days.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 160d
yes. what's fun is when they cramp. and when the part of you that is cramping is not a part that is available to put up to a mirror to unclench. so you just get to sit there, since your MD believes you've healed. book says you should have years ago.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 10 pts · 160d
If your doc thinks that, change doc.
In my neck of the woods, doctors are so aware of phantom pains that I can literally walk into any doctor's office, even one I've never met before, and ask for a prescription of Gabapentin or opioid of any denomination at any strength no questions asked. If I was still addicted, I would have no supply problem.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
And then you're drug seeking and doctor hopping and then there are only four doctors will even see you.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 160d
I've done the nudist camp thing. This is 1000% true. This also works if you're "Donald Ducking it" and just wearing a shirt.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 160d
Straight shirt cocking it
diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 160d
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Oh bother.
thed4rknss@bolha.forum · 49 pts · 161d
Feeling like Sonic
FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 161d
So that's why they called ron jeremy the hedgehog.
eddie@feddit.online · 14 pts · 161d
see also: shortness, roundness, hairiness
python@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 160d
For the opposite effect, walk into a room with other naked people and an air temperature above 70°C. Suddenly it'll be totally fine.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 160d
Nobody's fine at 70°C...
python@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 160d
Right, it oughta be at least 90°C to be nice and comfy
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 160d
You gotta make it that hot.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
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crazyinferno@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 160d
I think it's because of the steps removed you are from becoming non-naked. With no shoes, you're simply an underwear away from being non-naked. But with shoes on, you must bend over, remove your shoes, remove your socks, and only then are you free to install underwear on your naked dingaling. Now imagine if your landlord unexpectedly knocks at the door, and you were naked with no shoes versus with shoes. In the first case, you'd be non-naked in a matter of seconds. Whereas, in the second case, you'd be non-naked in about 15 seconds. Not to mention, you'd be in a very compromising position during those 15 seconds, as you'd be bent over in a strange position fiddling with your shoes over your own naked body. Never discount your brain's ability to plan ahead. And don't think this all isn't taken into account when considering how naked you feel with or without shoes. This, I believe, is one of the primary reasons. Okay, thank you for coming to my TED talk, have a blessed day, and fare thee well!
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 160d
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 160d
What font is this?
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 160d
Blippo Black
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
Ah I thought I'd seen it somewhere. Strong DISCO vibes
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 160d
Isn't it great? Old school vibes. Its very 1970s like every vinyl used it too for a while there.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 160d
Paragraph breaks, my homie
thenewred@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
This was not a paragraph post, it was definitely a stream of consciousness post
Shayeta@feddit.org · 1 pts · 160d
Just put on a trenchcoat?
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
First, it didn't say put on socks and shoes, it said put on shoes. Second, why would you take off your socks before you try to be less naked? Also, I get that you'll probably need to take off your shoes to put on pants but you can certainly get your underwear on over your shoes, right?
crazyinferno@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 159d
Yeah that was implied but of course pants are the key
frog@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 160d
Women wearing thigh highs with a skirt is sexier than just skirt without socks.
Cremisi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 160d
I don't know what this has to do with the post, but I totally agree.
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 160d
that partial nudity is often sexier than total nudity
mosspiglet@discuss.online · 6 pts · 160d
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 160d
Empirical evidence that wearing shoes makes you more naked: The only thing hotter than a naked woman is a naked woman with heels.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 160d
I can't believe that humanity hasn't got an explanation for this yet
frog@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 160d
I feel like heels makes women firm up their legs. It makes them look more tone, and it makes them have better posture. Also it makes them look taller and smaller feet.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
Nothing beats her wearing sweats pulled up then the top rolled down and one of my shirts.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 160d
Can't do that sorry. Actually I am lmao like, nah, but
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 161d
Man invented shoes first, because he was walking through the hot sand and the sharp rocks and the pointy briars, so he invented shoes to protect his feet from the ground. Then he invented pants, because he felt silly standing around naked in his shoes.
I think that was a Gallagher bit?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 160d
As a dude, I feel way more uncomfortable in just a t-shirt and nothing else than I feel fully naked.
over_clox@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 161d
Thanks, I hate it.
0ops@piefed.zip · 18 pts · 160d
It's like putting a little salt in your sweets, the contrast only makes the sweetness stand out more.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 161d
Well if you're gonna go outside naked, it's the sensible thing to do.
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 161d
I don't think I would like that feeling.
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 161d
As someone who would routinely go around Seattle naked on my bike this is 100% true. Something about shoes and a helmet feels way more naked than actually naked
taiyang@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 160d
Even more true if you're one of many who remove shoes in the house. Shoes are an outside thing only and if they're the only thing you have on, something has gone tricky terribly awry.
cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 161d
The shoes stay on during sex.
ryanvade@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 160d
33550336@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 160d
Optimally hight heels (including the case all genders).
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 160d
high heels? too dangerous for me and very uncomfortable to wear too
Dasus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 159d
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 9 pts · 161d
[off topic?]
The difference between naked and nude is that nude just means you aren't wearing clothes, but naked implies that there's a plan involved.
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 160d
...and nekkid means nude plus a naughty plan.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 160d
bonk
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 161d
Naked except for my socks and sandals.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
hey I'm wearing socks too! bet you can't guess where I'm wearing them though 😏
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 160d
In the pool? 🤔
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
no, silly!
up my bum!
they're pink fluffy ones!
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 160d
On your fingers
Katana314@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 160d
I see this in some character costume designs that show some (not all) skin. Once in a while, they’re barefoot, and the effect is just a free spirit vibe. But, if they have very bare legs, a big thick pair of sneakers or boots draws attention to the legs, making them look more exposed.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 160d
or socks and sandals
Ghostie@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 161d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
them: what's the belt for?
me: it's for later....
them:
puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 160d
this is a popular artist technique, and even works with simple things like glasses and jewelry!
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
Hat.
myster0n@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 161d
With or without socks?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 161d
With socks. Otherwise, you're focused on the weird feeling of wearing shoes without socks.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
However, naked with just socks is still more naked than just naked.
mcSlibinas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 161d
Only without socks.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 6 pts · 161d
You are not going on a date with my daughter young man, not with that attitude.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 161d
If you haven't done this before, there's no time like the present. Also, go outside in your front yard. That pretty much maximizes the effect.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 160d
Naked to the elements
troglodytis@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 160d
I have a sizable piece of property out in the middle of nowhere. Gotta say, going walkabout wearing only socks and shoes is the BEST!
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 160d
I live in England and this level of certainty that you won't run into anyone is simply unfathomable to be
troglodytis@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
I'm about 1km of dense woods from my nearest neighbor. Sometimes their dog gets out and they come looking for him.
They have learned to text and wait (cause signal coverage is spotty at best) the hard way 🤪
toynbee@piefed.social · 4 pts · 160d
Dave Barry posited a very similar theory about black socks, IIRC.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 160d
You can never be totally naked if you have a tattoo.
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 161d
This dream, again??
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 160d
Ever since I was a kid I, and other men, have had to occasionally remind women that if the air conditioning is too cold then can they please just put on a sweater because there's only so much clothing we can remove before we either run out of options or somebody calls the cops.
Nounka@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
A hat will work to
th0maswaschosen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
Then, just step over a motorcycle and if even that isn't enough just drive to a highway and speed up to +100 kmh, then you'll feel naked
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 160d
Its working! You're a genie!
Cloudstash@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 159d
Francislewwis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
I hate how accurate this is. 😅
MustaSpiraali@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 159d
Finnish midsummer with harsh gravel between sauna and the lake.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 160d
try taking off some of your buttholes