I dunno... According to this, Gerudo Valley should have a sitar and zurna flute, but instead the flamenco jam comes in hot with the Spanish guitar and trumpet.
They might have mixed styles so that anyone playing would feel like they were an outsider rather than modelling the Gerudo on any one particular culture.
I was thinking Metroid Prime as I read those, at least for lava and ice levels. I think that was a different composer but on the same (or better) level.
I'm not sure exactly which space characters are supposed to be used on 4Chan, but doing it here I tried two spaces and it was too far left, then three and it was too far right. I ended up with two regular non-breaking spaces and one thin non-breaking space, and that's as good as I can get it.
It looks almost right for me, on both the default web UI/Firefox/Linux and Voyager/Android.
Is there an actual name for the genre of music of Half Life 2, Ep1/2, Alyx?
Its like... progressive rock but sometimes also hardrock guitar riffs, but also with ... basically 'experimental' industrial/techno usually mixed in quite well, and then also very often with essentially breakbeat drumming, and a lot of it also uses some pretty uncommon time signatures and switchups.
And then sometimes there is either classical instrumentation, or, essentially some kind of filtered or synth version of it.
... I literally fail to describe it succinctly, I don't know how, I'm not aware of anything else that really sounds consistently like it.
I mean, NiN and industrial in general has many elements in common with it...
I dunno, its less ... orthodox, in time signatures, than basically all NiN I can remember listening to, with the exception of Ghosts.
Ghosts has a lot more just... weird timings, but they're also paired with melodies and chords that are dissonant or off in some way...
Not much of Ghosts is high tempo, 'action-y', and HL2's melodies are actually not as odd and dissonant, they're more conventional, just often played with unconventional instruments/synths.
And, NiN's drumming, cymbals and such is usually nowhere near as frantic.
... Maybe I just don't have a wide enough industrial palette, and I guess maybe yeah, 'HL2 style' is best described as a subgenre of industrial?
An of course their logo was on the ammo crates for the nail gun. Because if you have an automatic nail gun, nine inch nails make the perfect ammo. You're not going to kill shamblers with 23ga pin nails.
Yeah, actually, this is pretty close, if you had these guys make 'instrumentals', no lyrics songs.
Like if you took all of the differing elements, and patterns of maybe 3 of their songs, and essentially remixed them into one song, stripped out the vocals... that would approximately be pretty close to a good deal of HL2 songs, imo.
Maybe increase the range of effects and synths used a bit, but yeah, this is pretty close.
I guess the main difference left that I can think of is that... a lot of this kind of 90s/00s industrial, it will be built kind of around a guitar riff, like the distored/noise guitar is kind of the foundation, the thing that is basically always there, keeping the tempo, driving the song.
But a lot of HL2 songs will... kind of swap this idea: The driving melody is synthetic, the guitar is used for the occasional/repeated kind of bits of flavor.
... I feel like I don't music theory to know the right words, lol.
I think that might be the closest to what you are looking for that I can think of. It's a little metal on the drums, but it's got way more synth lead stuff.
While a bit different from what your asking for, you should also check out Master Boot Record - it's a bit more chip tune metal. It's fun though
I think you were asking about the genre of music, and I don't have an answer for you off the top of my head, but if you want to go on the journey of electronic music genres and sub genres and sub sub genres and learn about types of music and artists you might like, strap on your ear goggles and head on over to Ishkur's guide to electronic music:https://music.ishkur.com/
I have lost hours of my life there before.
Edit: quick dive into Ishkur's guide, and I think what you're looking for is called "Aggrotech"
Either a very distorted bass guitar or synth... and... a marimba?
At about 10 seconds we start the action, angry synth and ... drum kit that includes a steel drum?
We've also got another kind of haunting synth doing a more complex melody...
Then at about 35 seconds, the song basically explodes into... all the synths are here (maybe some are guitars with lots of effects/delays/fades?) now, big sound range from the synths/possible guitars...
And then at about 55 seconds, slight lull, piano is here now,
Some synths/guitars? are still going, piano is somber, breakbeat drumming is intense ... thats quite a juxtapostion...
Synths get more prominent, piano fades out...
Then by about 1:35 we downplay the synths a bit, piano is sad again... drumming is still happening.
Ok, then by about 1:55, pretty sure this is a guitar, that uses a delay pedal/effect to basically punctuate itself for 1-2 second melodic bursts, gets accomoanied by either another heavily modified guitar or synth untill...
About 2:25, sad piano is back again, to basically play us out, but the breakbeat drumming is still here, untill it isn't, and we actually fade out on bass guitar/synth... and the marimba.
This is a 2:41 song.
It took me like 15 minutes to attempt to comprehend what is happening.
I do know Master Boot Record and yeah I agree, its more like chiptune metal...
I will have to check out The Algorithm and Ishkur's site... though probably tomorrow.
I know that if I start now, I will not get to sleep untill 4 am.
Yeah this is pretty forward on the Acid Bass, made famous by the TB-303. While that track doesn't sound exactly like a 303, definitely reminiscent of it, and the 303 finds its way into a lot of industrial. This track is pretty cinematic, which fits it right into that "video game soundtrack" vibe that doesn't exist much outside of games. I'm bored right now though, so I'm going to go down some rabbit holes and maybe find something for you to listen to. This type of music is right up my alley, so I might discover some new stuff to listen to myself.
Edit: check this shit:
Celldweller - Soundtrack for the Voices in My Head
I think I might be moving in the wrong direction, but some of it is right.
I think that's the best I can do without getting into some pretty avant garde indie SoundCloud stuff.
I donāt mean to offend anyone but I cannot respect you as a human being, let alone a sentient organism, if you enjoy video game music at any time other than whilst playing a video game.
āI like the music in doom, itās weirdly ambient despite being so aggressive.ā Perfectly fine, even respectable. āI was listening to the mortal kombat soundtrack the other dayā¦ā You are lesser than a sea cucumber.
Hell, even with the chip tunes alone, it's amazing what people managed to squeeze out of two sines, a saw, and a square channel. Bloody Tears comes to mind. Or Willy's theme from Megaman 2.
Itās excellent for the setting it was made for, but is lacking compared to the collected discography of generations of musicians tuned to at-home listening.
I listen to opera at the opera. I listen to symphonies at the symphony, or at home if Iām particularly nostalgic. I listen to game music when Iām playing games. Each has an environment crafted around it to maximize enjoyment. I canāt even listen to edm without dimming the lights.
Listening to a game soundtrack made to evoke specific emotions at specific times? It feels like the point was wholly missed and vast horizons entirely ignored.
This is a very narrow and limited way of seeing music. Music can be created for a purpose and a setting but once it's out there it has no boundaries beyond what you impose upon it. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was written for the Wizard of Oz but it's not like the only way to enjoy it is in a movie theatre. Certainly, music can be more or less appropriate for certain activities and moods, listening to EDM to fall asleep might be self defeating. However, music made for games can evoke all sorts of mental states and people are free to find appropriate settings and uses outside of them to enjoy it.
In the same way that a kid can watch a baseball game and notice none of the nearly superhuman athleticism playing out, many people simply canāt notice the difference between a bespoke listening experience and one tuned for a specific setting. And that doesnāt make them evil or stupid, and Iād never argue that. But it does place them firmly beneath vermin. People are allowed to feel any which way they like, even if itās objectively WRONG.
Ok so you do mean to offend people then. Have fun with that, I'll just be over here enjoying things on their own merits despite your whole thing going on over there.
Youāre welcome to it and I hope you enjoy it! Iām not the arbiter of all things. Enjoy what you enjoy, but understand that weāre coming for āpeopleā like you first.
Please listen to the endless space 2 ost (without playing the game). Imo it is even better outside of the game, because I can fully kick back and listen, instead of micromanaging a galaxy-spanning empire at the same time.
I could sympathize with your point if VGM was still the blips and blops of cheap midi synths like it was in Doom's hayday. Heck, I still someshat sympathize with the idea that VGM just doesn't work as well as albums for making a pure listening experience because the game inherently restricts it's format (though I'd say it depends on the game). But VGM by [current year] has gotten so good I must ask what VGM you have heard. Would you make the same claim for film soundtracks?
::: spoiler Unsolicited VGM suggestions that I think prove my point
Expedition 33, Neon White, Ultrakill, Team Fortress 2, Hyper Light Drifter
:::
I do feel the same way about movie soundtracks. My partner pulled the full interstellar soundtrack into their chill out playlist and I wince a little every time.
I liked the music in bioshock, shadow of the colossus, kingdom hearts 3, horizon, undertale, etc., quite a lot. But devoting time to listening to it, rather than modern music made for home listening just doesnāt appeal to me. It feels like pulling out a jigsaw when you need a dremel. Like, you can do that, certainly, but there are infinitely better options
So, you're talking about a dedicated 'sit down and listen to this album in whole' kind of experience? I don't think even most albums are great for this, but yeah video games typically aren't good for this because of the different moods they go through. I listen to a few straight though though:
I canāt even say that. I listen to singles, for the most part. I havenāt done a full album listen through in like 10 years, and that was mostly a rock opera bender. Iām not opposed to listening to full albums, but I am picky and my musical peas and carrots touching bothers me.
But my most major issue with video game music is just that it avoids calling attention to itself. āIgnore meā doesnāt feel like it should be a part of music.
Most of the songs are meant that way, but some (cutscene music for example) take the forefront. A different use case is normal though. It's kind of like saying you're not supposed to enjoy anything not prepared by a 5* chef.
I mean, if you had the entirety of the meals prepared by tens of thousands of 5 star chefs across their lifetimes and someone saw you choosing to eat pb&j instead, youād get at least a coy look
Itās a great song, but I canāt see myself choosing to play it outside game night. (I played this one to death during our desert dnd campaign, yes Iām a hypocrite)
I don't necessarily disagree with you. As much as I enjoy the song whenever I do pull it up, I can't honestly claim it's on my car playlist or party playlist. It's pretty hard to beat popular music at the end of the day.
Film music, video game music, and even classical music are all great and impressive in their own right, but when you're chilling/vibing/socializing, popular music is the way to go. And by popular music I don't mean pop music, I mean the whole spectrum of contemporary music that people mainly listen to, I guess you could also call it vernacular music. So I pretty much agree with your point but I think you got downvoted because you stated it in a fairly blunt fashion.
Itās excellent ambiance. I pick and pull from video games aplenty for game nights. Ambient music in a specific style for specific demographics? Yes, directly into my stereo system on Tuesday.
Unequivocally was I baiting reactions with hyperbole mixed with sincerity in the 4chan community. I canāt argue otherwise, and I donāt blame people for not recognizing a, and this hurts to say, 20 year old meme setup.
Look, I think gamers should definitely expand their tastes because I know a few who almost exclusively listen to games soundtrack, but that doesn't mean games soundtracks have no artistic value outside of the game... now, not all of them do, but it's not all black and white
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Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 109 pts · 143d
Thanks Ocarina of Time
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 60 pts · 143d
Also Mario 64.
Basically its 'thanks Koji Kondo'.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 143d
I dunno... According to this, Gerudo Valley should have a sitar and zurna flute, but instead the flamenco jam comes in hot with the Spanish guitar and trumpet.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 143d
Different kind of dessert.
Zitar and zurna flute for deserts with camels and sand dunes. Spanish guitar, trumpet, and I think drum rim? for deserts with cliffs and tumbleweeds.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
I always got more of a middle-eastern vibe from Gerudo Valley. Their clothing has kind of a belly-dancer thing going.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
the first belly dancer i met was Roma
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
They might have mixed styles so that anyone playing would feel like they were an outsider rather than modelling the Gerudo on any one particular culture.
GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 141d
So ice cream or maybe something more cake-like?
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 143d
There's a ukulele in the OoT OST? O.o
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 143d
OoT doesn't have beach music. Mario games (by the same composer), however...
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
I was thinking Metroid Prime as I read those, at least for lava and ice levels. I think that was a different composer but on the same (or better) level.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 143d
Yeah, Koji Kondo didn't do Metroid music. The ice and lava levels definitely qualify!
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 48 pts · 143d
Unmute this greentext
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 143d
https://youtu.be/8uCEeCUecNI
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 143d
I miss Seth Everman! Dude was so great
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 143d
... be careful not to suffer a terrible fate...
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 143d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 143d
I can't defeat Air Man. š©
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 143d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
hey! stop fucking my mayo bucket
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 143d
sex hole sandwiches
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
yeah we play that song. it's not a good song, but we play it
anelephant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Iāve been laughing out loud at a university cafeteria for a good minute now, thanks. Dark Orbit - EIC (New Music October 2013) 0:32.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 143d
>laboratory level
>futuristic sounding synths
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org · 20 pts · 143d
Anon's vibin
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 143d
This is not just real, its a truth.
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 143d
TIL you canāt greentext on Lemmy
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 143d
> Not with that attitude
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 143d
ā²
ā² ā²
... fuck.
grue@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 143d
Ā Ā āā²
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sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 143d
Hehe, the top one is slightly off for me, but uh... yeah, lemmy has like 20+ client apps ... so... lol
grue@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
I'm not sure exactly which space characters are supposed to be used on 4Chan, but doing it here I tried two spaces and it was too far left, then three and it was too far right. I ended up with two regular non-breaking spaces and one thin non-breaking space, and that's as good as I can get it.
It looks almost right for me, on both the default web UI/Firefox/Linux and Voyager/Android.
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
omg hax
Hubi@feddit.org · 12 pts · 143d
>he doesn't know
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 143d
> American level
> clapping noises
tfw when you totally can
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 143d
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 143d
Just use a backslash to escape the >
> like this, which looks like:
\> this
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 143d
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
I feel like it should be possible
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 143d
daggermoon@piefed.world · 13 pts · 143d
Sounds like a good game.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 143d
Ok uh, barely related, but:
Is there an actual name for the genre of music of Half Life 2, Ep1/2, Alyx?
Its like... progressive rock but sometimes also hardrock guitar riffs, but also with ... basically 'experimental' industrial/techno usually mixed in quite well, and then also very often with essentially breakbeat drumming, and a lot of it also uses some pretty uncommon time signatures and switchups.
And then sometimes there is either classical instrumentation, or, essentially some kind of filtered or synth version of it.
... I literally fail to describe it succinctly, I don't know how, I'm not aware of anything else that really sounds consistently like it.
AlexLost@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 143d
So, like Nine Inch Nails then. That's called just industrial.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 143d
I mean, NiN and industrial in general has many elements in common with it...
I dunno, its less ... orthodox, in time signatures, than basically all NiN I can remember listening to, with the exception of Ghosts.
Ghosts has a lot more just... weird timings, but they're also paired with melodies and chords that are dissonant or off in some way...
Not much of Ghosts is high tempo, 'action-y', and HL2's melodies are actually not as odd and dissonant, they're more conventional, just often played with unconventional instruments/synths.
And, NiN's drumming, cymbals and such is usually nowhere near as frantic.
... Maybe I just don't have a wide enough industrial palette, and I guess maybe yeah, 'HL2 style' is best described as a subgenre of industrial?
FE80@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
NiN did the soundtrack to Quake.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
An of course their logo was on the ammo crates for the nail gun. Because if you have an automatic nail gun, nine inch nails make the perfect ammo. You're not going to kill shamblers with 23ga pin nails.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 143d
Yeah, there is no denying that NiN and industrial in general was... running through the blood of the late 90s / early 00s FPS pioneers.
Heck, not even just FPS:
Frank 'Motherfucking' Klepacki.
... who the fuck comes up with both Hell March... and IndustroFunk?
He just like invented a subgenre, as a song.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
So like... MDFMK maybe?
motruck@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 143d
KMFDM, better than the best.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 143d
You're good at this.
Yeah, actually, this is pretty close, if you had these guys make 'instrumentals', no lyrics songs.
Like if you took all of the differing elements, and patterns of maybe 3 of their songs, and essentially remixed them into one song, stripped out the vocals... that would approximately be pretty close to a good deal of HL2 songs, imo.
Maybe increase the range of effects and synths used a bit, but yeah, this is pretty close.
I guess the main difference left that I can think of is that... a lot of this kind of 90s/00s industrial, it will be built kind of around a guitar riff, like the distored/noise guitar is kind of the foundation, the thing that is basically always there, keeping the tempo, driving the song.
But a lot of HL2 songs will... kind of swap this idea: The driving melody is synthetic, the guitar is used for the occasional/repeated kind of bits of flavor.
... I feel like I don't music theory to know the right words, lol.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
Oohh oh oh... Check out "The Algorithm"
I think that might be the closest to what you are looking for that I can think of. It's a little metal on the drums, but it's got way more synth lead stuff.
While a bit different from what your asking for, you should also check out Master Boot Record - it's a bit more chip tune metal. It's fun though
I think you were asking about the genre of music, and I don't have an answer for you off the top of my head, but if you want to go on the journey of electronic music genres and sub genres and sub sub genres and learn about types of music and artists you might like, strap on your ear goggles and head on over to Ishkur's guide to electronic music:https://music.ishkur.com/
I have lost hours of my life there before.
Edit: quick dive into Ishkur's guide, and I think what you're looking for is called "Aggrotech"
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 143d
Algorithm mentioned, I am awake
I saw him/them live, great stuff.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 143d
Ok, I was going to edit this in to my last comment, but you already replied, so:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9F030ERnQ84&list=PL059AC88C849E7A20&index=24
'You're Not Supposed to Be Here'
Ok so we open with... I think:
Either a very distorted bass guitar or synth... and... a marimba?
At about 10 seconds we start the action, angry synth and ... drum kit that includes a steel drum?
We've also got another kind of haunting synth doing a more complex melody...
Then at about 35 seconds, the song basically explodes into... all the synths are here (maybe some are guitars with lots of effects/delays/fades?) now, big sound range from the synths/possible guitars...
And then at about 55 seconds, slight lull, piano is here now,
Some synths/guitars? are still going, piano is somber, breakbeat drumming is intense ... thats quite a juxtapostion...
Synths get more prominent, piano fades out...
Then by about 1:35 we downplay the synths a bit, piano is sad again... drumming is still happening.
Ok, then by about 1:55, pretty sure this is a guitar, that uses a delay pedal/effect to basically punctuate itself for 1-2 second melodic bursts, gets accomoanied by either another heavily modified guitar or synth untill...
About 2:25, sad piano is back again, to basically play us out, but the breakbeat drumming is still here, untill it isn't, and we actually fade out on bass guitar/synth... and the marimba.
This is a 2:41 song.
It took me like 15 minutes to attempt to comprehend what is happening.
I do know Master Boot Record and yeah I agree, its more like chiptune metal...
I will have to check out The Algorithm and Ishkur's site... though probably tomorrow.
I know that if I start now, I will not get to sleep untill 4 am.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
Yeah this is pretty forward on the Acid Bass, made famous by the TB-303. While that track doesn't sound exactly like a 303, definitely reminiscent of it, and the 303 finds its way into a lot of industrial. This track is pretty cinematic, which fits it right into that "video game soundtrack" vibe that doesn't exist much outside of games. I'm bored right now though, so I'm going to go down some rabbit holes and maybe find something for you to listen to. This type of music is right up my alley, so I might discover some new stuff to listen to myself.
Edit: check this shit: Celldweller - Soundtrack for the Voices in My Head
I think I might be moving in the wrong direction, but some of it is right.
I think that's the best I can do without getting into some pretty avant garde indie SoundCloud stuff.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 143d
>cherry blossoms in the level
>koto and sho OR shamisen and shakuhachi
roguetrick@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 143d
Sax... And violins.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 8 pts · 143d
That's how yo momma likes it.
::: spoiler Spoiler Sex & violence :::
roguetrick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Snakes are valid.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TKhrQhdxjI8
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Namely Gratuitous Sax & Senseless Violins.
Limonene@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
Counterpoint: The Crosscode soundtrack.
Forest level: accordion, guitar, only a bit of flute, no violin.
Forest level 2: accordion, choir, and xylophone.
Forest level 3: steel drums, guitar, some other kind of guitar.
Ice level: flutes, bass guitar.
Ice dungeon: french horn, synthy violin.
Lava level: (none)
Desert level: Exactly what OP said.
Desert town: Totally different from what OP said.
Beach level: guitar, flute, piano, very little steel drums, no ukulele.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 143d
but anon, what if you are Spider-Man in a Fun House in 1991?
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
Bongos, error beeps, and the wails of the damned.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 143d
And that instrument that makes plastic clicky noises, expertly played.
zedgeist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
Music genre: video game
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
current mood and song
i have difficult thinking of this as video game music it's sooooo good
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 143d
I've got spurs that jingle jangle jingle
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
FTFY
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 143d
"And they say, 'whoah, ain't you glad you're single~!'..."
...
...
Boone?
... oh. fuck. right.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
oh right i forgot an entire band. anyone else love The OneUps?
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
Hell yeah. I've listened to the Mario Christmas medley every year since it debuted.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
sleigh ride is so fun
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 3 pts · 143d
Then you got Ape Escape and it's DRUMS AND BASS
Soundtrack for the curious.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Soichi Terada is cool.
Also it's jungle rather than drum'n'bass.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 143d
šØš
CPMSP@midwest.social · 2 pts · 143d
And for a good variety of levels and backgrounds, I present Snails House.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz37m87Iwqc
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · -22 pts · 143d
I donāt mean to offend anyone but I cannot respect you as a human being, let alone a sentient organism, if you enjoy video game music at any time other than whilst playing a video game.
āI like the music in doom, itās weirdly ambient despite being so aggressive.ā Perfectly fine, even respectable. āI was listening to the mortal kombat soundtrack the other dayā¦ā You are lesser than a sea cucumber.
Nefara@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 143d
Was the last time you listened to game music when it was all chip and midi? There's some beautiful and moving music in games.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
Hell, even with the chip tunes alone, it's amazing what people managed to squeeze out of two sines, a saw, and a square channel. Bloody Tears comes to mind. Or Willy's theme from Megaman 2.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
And the modern scene is still going strong
https://youtu.be/390m2LaUUIg
https://youtu.be/IYW9ttNmUvU
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 143d
Itās excellent for the setting it was made for, but is lacking compared to the collected discography of generations of musicians tuned to at-home listening.
I listen to opera at the opera. I listen to symphonies at the symphony, or at home if Iām particularly nostalgic. I listen to game music when Iām playing games. Each has an environment crafted around it to maximize enjoyment. I canāt even listen to edm without dimming the lights.
Listening to a game soundtrack made to evoke specific emotions at specific times? It feels like the point was wholly missed and vast horizons entirely ignored.
Nefara@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
This is a very narrow and limited way of seeing music. Music can be created for a purpose and a setting but once it's out there it has no boundaries beyond what you impose upon it. Somewhere Over the Rainbow was written for the Wizard of Oz but it's not like the only way to enjoy it is in a movie theatre. Certainly, music can be more or less appropriate for certain activities and moods, listening to EDM to fall asleep might be self defeating. However, music made for games can evoke all sorts of mental states and people are free to find appropriate settings and uses outside of them to enjoy it.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
In the same way that a kid can watch a baseball game and notice none of the nearly superhuman athleticism playing out, many people simply canāt notice the difference between a bespoke listening experience and one tuned for a specific setting. And that doesnāt make them evil or stupid, and Iād never argue that. But it does place them firmly beneath vermin. People are allowed to feel any which way they like, even if itās objectively WRONG.
Nefara@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Ok so you do mean to offend people then. Have fun with that, I'll just be over here enjoying things on their own merits despite your whole thing going on over there.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
Youāre welcome to it and I hope you enjoy it! Iām not the arbiter of all things. Enjoy what you enjoy, but understand that weāre coming for āpeopleā like you first.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 142d
Please listen to the endless space 2 ost (without playing the game). Imo it is even better outside of the game, because I can fully kick back and listen, instead of micromanaging a galaxy-spanning empire at the same time.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
I jumped though it and itās overwhelmingly ambient music. Which isnāt bad but I rarely play ambient music. Just not for me
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 142d
Yeah I guess that is a big part of why it still works really well outside the game
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
I did scoop up a couple of songs for my mystical/transcendent dnd playlist, though, so I do appreciate it for that!
kartoffelsaft@programming.dev · 5 pts · 143d
I could sympathize with your point if VGM was still the blips and blops of cheap midi synths like it was in Doom's hayday. Heck, I still someshat sympathize with the idea that VGM just doesn't work as well as albums for making a pure listening experience because the game inherently restricts it's format (though I'd say it depends on the game). But VGM by [current year] has gotten so good I must ask what VGM you have heard. Would you make the same claim for film soundtracks?
::: spoiler Unsolicited VGM suggestions that I think prove my point Expedition 33, Neon White, Ultrakill, Team Fortress 2, Hyper Light Drifter :::
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 143d
I do feel the same way about movie soundtracks. My partner pulled the full interstellar soundtrack into their chill out playlist and I wince a little every time.
I liked the music in bioshock, shadow of the colossus, kingdom hearts 3, horizon, undertale, etc., quite a lot. But devoting time to listening to it, rather than modern music made for home listening just doesnāt appeal to me. It feels like pulling out a jigsaw when you need a dremel. Like, you can do that, certainly, but there are infinitely better options
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
So, you're talking about a dedicated 'sit down and listen to this album in whole' kind of experience? I don't think even most albums are great for this, but yeah video games typically aren't good for this because of the different moods they go through. I listen to a few straight though though:
https://playtonicgames.bandcamp.com/album/yooka-laylee-and-the-impossible-lair-original-game-soundtrack
https://dotemu.bandcamp.com/album/wonder-boy-the-dragons-trap
https://c418.bandcamp.com/album/wanderstop
https://sundaemonth.bandcamp.com/album/diaries-of-a-spaceport-janitor-original-soundtrack
https://supergiantgames.bandcamp.com/album/bastion-original-soundtrack
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
I canāt even say that. I listen to singles, for the most part. I havenāt done a full album listen through in like 10 years, and that was mostly a rock opera bender. Iām not opposed to listening to full albums, but I am picky and my musical peas and carrots touching bothers me.
But my most major issue with video game music is just that it avoids calling attention to itself. āIgnore meā doesnāt feel like it should be a part of music.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Most of the songs are meant that way, but some (cutscene music for example) take the forefront. A different use case is normal though. It's kind of like saying you're not supposed to enjoy anything not prepared by a 5* chef.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 141d
I mean, if you had the entirety of the meals prepared by tens of thousands of 5 star chefs across their lifetimes and someone saw you choosing to eat pb&j instead, youād get at least a coy look
gurty@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 143d
Its almost a cliche to say it at this point, but Clair Obscurās soundtrack is incredible.
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 143d
Counterpoint.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 143d
Itās a great song, but I canāt see myself choosing to play it outside game night. (I played this one to death during our desert dnd campaign, yes Iām a hypocrite)
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 143d
I don't necessarily disagree with you. As much as I enjoy the song whenever I do pull it up, I can't honestly claim it's on my car playlist or party playlist. It's pretty hard to beat popular music at the end of the day.
Film music, video game music, and even classical music are all great and impressive in their own right, but when you're chilling/vibing/socializing, popular music is the way to go. And by popular music I don't mean pop music, I mean the whole spectrum of contemporary music that people mainly listen to, I guess you could also call it vernacular music. So I pretty much agree with your point but I think you got downvoted because you stated it in a fairly blunt fashion.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
Itās excellent ambiance. I pick and pull from video games aplenty for game nights. Ambient music in a specific style for specific demographics? Yes, directly into my stereo system on Tuesday.
Unequivocally was I baiting reactions with hyperbole mixed with sincerity in the 4chan community. I canāt argue otherwise, and I donāt blame people for not recognizing a, and this hurts to say, 20 year old meme setup.
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
Agreed. Can't win em all buddy, you'll get em next time
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 143d
Another counterpoint
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 142d
Look, I think gamers should definitely expand their tastes because I know a few who almost exclusively listen to games soundtrack, but that doesn't mean games soundtracks have no artistic value outside of the game... now, not all of them do, but it's not all black and white