‘Pray With Me Please’: Pete Hegseth Reads Fake Bible Quote From ‘Pulp Fiction’ During Pentagon Prayer Service
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/pray-with-me-please-pete-hegseth-reads-fake-bible-quote-from-pulp-fiction-during-pentagon-prayer-service/
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Jhex@lemmy.world · 190 pts · 111d
I thought Hegseth had quoted Pulp Fiction and the issue was that it's blasphemous to do so by a gov official and such... but no, it totally looks like this idiot did not know this was not an actual Bible quote
The lesson here is "if you think they cannot possibly that dumb, forget about it and double down"
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 111d
He knew it wasn't an actual Bible quote, but he did think it was a modified version of Ezekiel 25:17. Which it definitionally is. The actual string is:
Ezekiel 25:17 –> (edit: Bodyguard Kiba modification) –> Pulp Fiction modification –> USAF modification
Whereas he thought it was:
Ezekiel 25:17 –> USAF modification
I think that's understandable if you've never seen Pulp Fiction (because you just assume the Pulp Fiction stuff was the USAF's addition), but it's still pretty funny.
The actual problem here, as usual, is separation of church and state being trampled over to make way for Abrahamic prayers in the US federal government.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 111d
25:17 is a small segment of the "verse"... Pulp Fictions rendition is made up all in except the "great vengeance and furious anger..." Part....
E.g. fake bible verse.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 111d
You mean "i.e.", and yeah, he said that it's "reflecting" Ezekiel 25:17.
He literally never said it's an actual Bible quote or even all that close to one.
towerful@programming.dev · 3 pts · 110d
Yup. It's not giving an example so "e.g." doesn't make sense
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
Doesn't seem like he made any attempt to clarify the bible-like quote wasn't bible related and was mimicing quote about thugs murdering people.. And ironically being confused about whether their religious fervor is in favor of or against said murders...
At any rate, the christo fascist is quoting bible-like things with no further clarification/context... Seems more like he's thinking it is a real Bible verse or hopes it's thought of as one.
The fun thing with these shits is they like to walk the line of fuckery so despite all the bread crumbs, planted seeds, and ra-ra cheerleading... They can deny it or be defended because they didn't explicitly do x... And when they do, there's a torrent of noise behind them causing confusion and distractions.
Soulphite@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 111d
zewm@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 111d
Separation of a church and state or nah? How is this allowed?
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 111d
That went out the window long ago
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 111d
Was it ever really a thing though [in the US]? Like aren't presidents sworn in on a Bible or something? And it says something about God on the money? And the pledge of allegiance? (The USA is a cult, btw)
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 111d
That all changed during the “Red Scare” in the 1950’s. Swearing in on a bible is optional and lower offices have used e.g. a Quran in the past.
sobchak@programming.dev · 11 pts · 110d
Before the Civil War, there was more separation. Things really started going out of wack in the 1950s (that's when "God" was printed on paper money). The swearing on the bible thing is a tradition from England. At US's founding 17% of the population were church members. In the the 1950s, 70% were. Now it's < 50%.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 110d
Presidents can be sworn in on whatever they want. At least one has used something else, although I don't recall who or what it was.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 110d
John Quincy Adams chose "The Volume of Laws" in 1825. Teddy Roosevelt had nothing right after McKinley's assassination in 1901. The only other oddball I see is Lyndon B Johnson used the closest prayer book after JFK's assassination
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
President can be sworn in on whatever document they want.
Heck, they may not even need a document. If I'm elected in 2028, I'm getting sworn in on the Epstein files.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 110d
That's been out the window ever since 1956 when Eisenhower changed the US motto from "E Pluribus Unum [Out of Many, One]" to "In God We Trust".
village604@adultswim.fan · 20 pts · 111d
Well, it's technically not part of any religion since it's a verse from a movie.
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 111d
Are you telling me that Tarantino fans aren't a religion?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 111d
Technically illegal, but the people whose job it is to enforce it are Christofascists, so this is the result.
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 110d
Yeah we’re in the ‘come at me bro’ status of accountability on all fronts, esp when dealing with those that need to be held to account the most.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 50 pts · 110d
Performative christians should get double hell.
e0qdk@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 110d
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 110d
Thats all of them though.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 110d
I think the pope is restoring something I lost a long time ago. So I will say protestants, but not all Christians.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 110d
Yeah, nothing performative at all about the chap in the robes and the funny hat chanting incantations in a dead language in an art gallery while swinging incense around the place.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 110d
Hard to hate the dude when he's on the right side of history.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 2 pts · 110d
I guess if we excuse his pedo priest shufflng past. Who hasn't tho amirite?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 110d
Again, not disagreeing with you.
But the current Chicagoan is doing a pretty bang up job.
jve@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 110d
Managed to avoid tripping on the bar.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 110d
I honestly believe that at the upper levels of the church, they see the systemic molestation, which has been literally been passed from generation to generation for CENTURIES, as one of their most effective recruiting tools.
Molest enough young boys, and at least a few are going to enjoy it, and decide to stay in the system that brings them pleasure. Maybe they even convince themselves that it's about their piety. Then they grow up to molest more young boys, and some of them join.
After a few centuries, it becomes apparent that something like 20-25% were molestation victims, but they also joined the church. It's not the ideal situation, but it's hard to argue with a recruitment that has proven to be such a success. Not every young man is going to appreciate the joys of a future lifetime of celibacy, it's good to have an alternative attraction.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 110d
No wonder it pisses off Trump so much. Carry on!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 110d
I'm a lifelong disbeliever (I remember thinking how religion didn't make sense as early as 4 years old, when I quizzed my Dad on where God was, and why didn't the Gemini astronauts visit him when they were in Space), and I was never Catholic in any case, but this is the first Pope I've seen that was actually willing to stand up to the psychopaths. I'm never getting on board with his whole church scam, but I support anything that drives a wedge between MAGA and their most delusional supporters.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 110d
Fuck my it you're here too. I feel bad on my account. But you rock.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 110d
The precursor to the Epstein-Trump-Israel pedo organization that worships humans instead of the "one true God" who specifically tells them not to worship false idols more often than any other command in their own book...yeah totally a great organization you should look up to, such a shining example of the good of "Christianity".
brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 111d
These guys are such incredible losers. This guy in particular.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 111d
In the words of South Park, Pete Hegseth is a fuckin' douche.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 111d
🤣 at least the end of the world is funny
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 110d
There are so many layers of what the fuck going on with this. A veritable dagwood of blatantly wrong decisions over the course of decades, relentlessly stacked upon one another and pinned together with the twin toothpicks of true faith and true grift. This is the culmination of a soul destroying amount of failures.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 110d
True Faith and True Grift have always been one big fat toothpick. There has never been a time when they weren't tightly intertwined.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 110d
Tv guy prays to movie quote. You can probably figure out which AI he used by asking them all for the verse.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 110d
It's an entire administration whose entire political education comes from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and popular culture. Being profoundly ignorant, they don't know their own nation's history, and they don't take their inspiration from the great people of history, they get their inspiration from Hollywood action movies, and not even good ones. So they are obsessed with being the "hottest, the "richest," the most popular, etc.
And because they are irredeemably Sociopathic, they think it's perfectly normal to think that way. That's why they've fought so hard to take over America. They see most moral, decent Americans, trying to live moral, decent lives, and don't understand them at all. If we aren't fully on board with whatever chaotic agenda is in their profoundly broken psyches, then we must be the ones with the problem, and we need to be dominated, forced to submit, or eliminated.
So this guy thinks he was being a badass with his poor reading of a Samuel L Jackson monologue, like a high school drama student auditioning for the school musical, and he just came off as pathetically cringe.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 110d
"Pentagon Prayer Service"
Oh good lord we are dooooooomed
for years, I smugly thought our military was past this crap. what a dummy i was, no wonder everything is so fucked
I haven't been to a lot of churches, but I have been a part of a few church congregations, and they have been without exception bat-shit crazy.
terrifying
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 110d
Evangelists have been prosletyzing to army recruits for literally decades. Hegseth is quite literally their guy, hence the firing of catholic military leaders.
You want to see real change in the U.S.? Start looking at mega churches. That's where some real change needs to be brought, soon.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
The fact the military has chaplains still…
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 110d
I'm not sure what irks me more. The existence of a "Pentagon Prayer Service" or this idiot quoting invented bible verses.
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 110d
That's easy! All Bible verses are invented.
CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 21 pts · 110d
Can we just talk about the fact that this "prayer" has the word 'aviator' in it and this moron in charge of our destructive power either didn't notice or didn't care?
Soulphite@reddthat.com · 19 pts · 111d
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 111d
Dude probably prompted ChatGPT with the words Bible, badass, and US military and than asked it to replace some words with the rescue operation. That's my guess as some of the word replacements make no sense.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 110d
How has this guy not had his ass beat for being cringe yet?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 110d
This is one way I know that religion is bullshit, because if there really was a God, these guys would all end up a smoking hole at the podium.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 110d
100% this came from ai slop gibberish that this idiot has been convinced is able to think and reason because it's easy to convince immoral idiot gibberators to drink the fruit flavor sugar drink if you pay them to.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 111d
Could be worse, he could have called upon Brother Maynard to read from the Book of Armaments...
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 6 pts · 110d
“And St. Atilla raised the hand grenade on high, saying, ‘O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.’ And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats…”
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 110d
The delivery of "in Thy mercy" sends me every time
Marthirial@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 111d
Please tell me he started the quote from "Say what again, mortherfucker".
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 111d
No. This guy is just distilled awfulness. He's all stick and no lollypop.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 111d
but they will see it not for the lord god shall pour upon their minds a multitude of dumb fuckery!
flandish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 111d
ahh good ole copyright infringement
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 111d
I wonder if he used Gemini or chatGPT to generate the speech.
Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 110d
TIL the bible quote in pulp fiction is fake, any reason Tarantino felt the need to do so?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 110d
Having a laugh every time "religious" people quote his "bible" verse?
Or claim copyright on that lol
dantheclamman@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 110d
He copied it from another martial arts movie
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
the only thing that man loves more than old kungfu movies is feet.
m4xie@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 110d
Doesn't the character say that he just started saying it because it sounds badass? Him misquoting is consistent with his characterization. I can't remember, it's been a lot of years since I watched it.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
Why not?
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 111d
Does it even matter what these people say? Apparently not, because none of them has ever said anything even remotely intelligent, let alone productive. Nothing but hate and lies for years - this latest embarrassment hardly seems worth reporting, given all the crimes the U.S. regime is committing.
But hey, politics works through entertainment, which the clever people behind these people naturally know. That’s why they've chosen a cabinet of clowns as straw men - because they’re so embarrassing that the relevant news doesn’t stand a chance against their entertainment factor.
That’s unfortunately how our world works, and that’s why the worst of them all always get off scot-free: their crimes are simply too complicated to generate any interest.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 3 pts · 111d
From this article (better than one posted yesterday), it's clear the error was saying the prayer was based on a Bible verse, when it's based on the Pulp Fiction script. In the movie, the verse is said to be from Ezekiel 25:17, but it is not.
The prayer itself is obviously not from Pulp Fiction or the Bible, as it mentions aviators and the call sign "Sandy 1." They call the prayer CSAR 25:17, and Hegseth was correct that that is in reference to Ezekiel 25:17. But it's the movie Ezekiel 25:17, not the actual one.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
Back in the W regime, there was that Attorney General who would not only lead prayers, he would sing his own Christian patriotic songs at meetings.
dantheclamman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 110d
Yes, John Ashcroft also lives rent free in my mind https://youtu.be/woLQI8X2R6Y
MumboJumbo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
I like John Ashcroft for the sole reason that the state of Missouri voted for a dead guy over him for governor.