It's honestly funny that he's destroyed his entire life over what was fairly mild criticism of an single IT Crowd episode. Well it would be, except the entire British media class and the bloody government comes out moaning about 'freeze peach' because he got talked to for incited violence against trans people.
Yeah, if they did more than just make "she's a woman who likes man things" jokes it could have been great, it even ends by saying Douglas was in the wrong. It's honestly not even that bad by 2000s sitcom standards, it came out 2 years before that Family Guy episode. Which makes Glinner destroying his entire life over it all the more morbidly fascinating.
But like, it mostly kinda is? Like there are handful of dumb jokes like ‘trans woman is super strong’ but she is portrayed as a beautiful woman who is nice and smart and the conclusion is Douglas being sad because he broke up with her for the stupid reason of transphobia. IIRC Linehan even pointed this out and was proud to be pro-trans at the time. Then he went insane.
an episode of the show IT crowd, featuring one of the main cast dating a trans woman, without being aware that she is trans, ending with that charecter getting into a physical fight with her at the end of the episode, after finding out.
it's messy and transphobic, but actually also could be read as wholsome in parts, if it werent intended to be transphobic :<
Wow, this is the first I'm learning about this controversy around one of my favourite episodes. I didn't even know that it was pulled from syndication.
From my brief reading, it looks like the episode was accused of being transphobic because of the fight at the end? That strikes me as strange, seeing as how she starts the fight, not him.
She's a nameless extra for this one scene. The show is The IT Crowd, a British comedy show about members of an IT office in the basement of a large corporation.
It was a singular scene where Moss was fixing someone's computer and actually hitting it off with her. But he's so dense, he didn't realize she was flirting with him.
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tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 123d
Graham Linehan got divorced because of his incredibly pervasive transphobia.
Fuck him.
flamingos@feddit.uk · 41 pts · 123d
It's honestly funny that he's destroyed his entire life over what was fairly mild criticism of an single IT Crowd episode. Well it would be, except the entire British media class and the bloody government comes out moaning about 'freeze peach' because he got talked to for incited violence against trans people.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 25 pts · 123d
I think about that episode constantly.
It could have been such a great pro-trans episode with even just minor tweaks
flamingos@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 123d
Yeah, if they did more than just make "she's a woman who likes man things" jokes it could have been great, it even ends by saying Douglas was in the wrong. It's honestly not even that bad by 2000s sitcom standards, it came out 2 years before that Family Guy episode. Which makes Glinner destroying his entire life over it all the more morbidly fascinating.
victorz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
Which episode of Family Guy are you referring to?
b000rg@midwest.social · 4 pts · 122d
Quagmire's Dad, if I had to guess
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
Oh right, yeah, (s)he's trans!
Also Chandler's dad, from Friends!
OscarRobin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 122d
But like, it mostly kinda is? Like there are handful of dumb jokes like ‘trans woman is super strong’ but she is portrayed as a beautiful woman who is nice and smart and the conclusion is Douglas being sad because he broke up with her for the stupid reason of transphobia. IIRC Linehan even pointed this out and was proud to be pro-trans at the time. Then he went insane.
victorz@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 123d
Which episode are you all referring to? 🙏
riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 123d
an episode of the show IT crowd, featuring one of the main cast dating a trans woman, without being aware that she is trans, ending with that charecter getting into a physical fight with her at the end of the episode, after finding out.
it's messy and transphobic, but actually also could be read as wholsome in parts, if it werent intended to be transphobic :<
victorz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 123d
Weird, I don't remember that episode. I'll have to rewatch it with the Mrs, she hasn't seen the show. I'll keep an eye out, thanks!
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 123d
Iirc, some of the streaming sites now exclude that episode from being shown
victorz@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 123d
Oh I'm not worried about streaming sites 💽🏴☠️🫡
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 122d
It's the episode with the Internet button.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
Yeah, no, it's been too long. 😅 Guess that's a good sign I need to rewatch the entire show!
victorz@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 123d
Ah maaan, what a twat
I can't like anything anymore 😭
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 31 pts · 123d
Why can't we have nice things.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 123d
We can! Loads of good TV made by not-dickbags.
desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 123d
I hate that I like his works pre-2001. "Father Ted" is one of my favorite shows, being a PBS kid.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 123d
Just pirate it. I usually don’t mind separating art from the artist so long as they’re not profiting from my attention
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 123d
Wow, this is the first I'm learning about this controversy around one of my favourite episodes. I didn't even know that it was pulled from syndication.
From my brief reading, it looks like the episode was accused of being transphobic because of the fight at the end? That strikes me as strange, seeing as how she starts the fight, not him.
zelahdieliekeis@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 123d
The correct answer is "if you want these glasses on your face you'll have to put your face on my face."
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 123d
Well it’s not like I could get any work done with a face on my face.
What a silly answer.
ruplicant@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 123d
where is the female character from?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 30 pts · 123d
Britain
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 121d
Correct!
cobysev@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 123d
She's a nameless extra for this one scene. The show is The IT Crowd, a British comedy show about members of an IT office in the basement of a large corporation.
ruplicant@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 123d
Ok, thanks. I've seen the first season of the show but don't remember the scene. I thought her pictures were from another series
cobysev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 122d
It was a singular scene where Moss was fixing someone's computer and actually hitting it off with her. But he's so dense, he didn't realize she was flirting with him.