His investment in Objection.ai points to a new model: private investigations, AI verdicts, and accountability mechanisms that operate outside democratic institutions.
Peter Thiel is building a parallel justice system — Powered by AI
https://www.codastory.com/polarization/can-we-trust-an-ai-jury-to-judge-journalism/
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db2@lemmy.world · 131 pts · 127d
How is this not treason
themurphy@lemmy.ml · 101 pts · 127d
How is the current administration not treason. Answers your initial question, I think.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 127d
Does it really matter if checks and balances have been wiped out? Seems like just a label.
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 127d
JD Vance is still riding his dick.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 127d
so is sam altman, his other puppet.
devolution@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 127d
Because he's... Say it with me....
RICH AND WHITE!
treadful@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 127d
Because it operates within the law? It's a binding arbitration company.
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 100 pts · 127d
The state ceding the monopoly of violence to a surveillance corporation would be considered too on the face to be the plot of a cyberpunk dystopia and yet here we are living in the worlds dumbest dystopia.
bss03@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 127d
That's basically the start of the Shadowrun dystopia. There were a lot of other things that "went wrong", but when the government removed the liability from private security that has been protecting a hazardous materials transport from workers attacking it in the belief that it contained foodstuffs, it legitimized the "megacorp": a corporation sufficiently powerful to impose their own legal system on their private real estate.
EDIT: In the previous histories the "Seretech Decision" was on 1999-10-26. Sources: 1 2 3 Looks like "6th edition" retconned the fictional history to start 2001-09-11 (Never Forget), so it's unclear what and when the equivalent event is. Source: 4
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
iirc Disney already has something akin to corporate extra-territorality and and republicans were floating a wider rollout of that during Trumps last term?
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 127d
horse@feddit.org · 37 pts · 127d
I suggest building a parallel justice system for Peter Thiel. It will be powered by guillotines.
artifex@piefed.social · 37 pts · 127d
I imagine he’s going to try and deploy this in that totally unregulated Freedom City that he and Trump are trying to launch on some federal property in CA.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 16 pts · 127d
Nah, he is going to deploy it as the de-facto arbitrator for private industry. You wave your write to sue virtually every time you sign a TOS. This will replace arbitration because that is already a parallel legal system exclusively for corporations.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 37 pts · 127d
So he read that Frank Herbert quote about "permitted other men with machines to enslave them" and thought it was a great idea
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 127d
lol, he publicly identifies as a Sauron cosplayer
cf. $companyName
...but he's actually more like a sweaty Zorg, as a cartoon villain.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 29 pts · 127d
Oh wow, The Antichrist himself spinning up his own justice system. Sounds much fairer than a jury of your peers.
bss03@infosec.pub · 21 pts · 127d
Putting aside the problems in the current system, let's not call Thiel's system a justice system until we can see some results and verify they are just, 'k?
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 126d
It'll NEVER be a """justice""" system; it'll just be a way for the Ultra-Wealthy to legitimize their oppression and handwave the consequences as a "decision by AI". Mysteriously, oh-so-mysteriously, the verdicts will ALWAYS align with Thiel's interests.
Hiro8811@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 126d
The justice system was always about helping the rich
TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 127d
I feel like this is the origin story to a script of a film Chris Pratt would definitely star in… …Oh wait…
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 127d
Good fiml though, it start slowly though
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 127d
I was just amazed that Amazon out of all companies would put out a film admitting that AI justice would be flawed.
TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
Even the villains know when something is bad for them.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 126d
It anthromorphise Ai
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
Zoot@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 126d
What movie?
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
It’s called Mercy. It’s actually pretty good, yeah, but it’s also pro-AI, pro-surveillance state propaganda. Solid B+, though.
Zoot@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 126d
Ooooh... It was certainly sounding like the opposite of that haha! Appreciate the response, thank you!!
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 126d
All you gotta do is throw in some heroic 3 Percenters to make it the perfect Pratt film.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 126d
Yeah I dunno if it was made as a joke but the timout at the end before releasing it was so classic and expected it made me chuckle. But clearly it represent well the fear of the worst uses ofs AI.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 126d
Mercy
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 127d
It's only parallel for now.
Once we contract judges and the justice system to Palantir to avoid costly things like humans passing judgement, then think of the savings!
That or we get one of those Network State Praxis type things.
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 126d
"Run the government like a business."
🤡
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 127d
Without reading the article, algorithms have been used in sentencing for some time, well over ten years, to detrimental effect.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 127d
At least with algorithms the calculation is transparent. AI is so much worse because it's a black box
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 127d
AI is bullshit, not that different, it's the most hyped bullshit since idk. We are being played on this, amongst a great many other things.
Tech is a freedom ending thing don''t get me wrong, if we don't organize.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 126d
It's different in this case specifically, because AI is completely opaque, and the calculation the court uses is not at all
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 126d
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
oldwoodenship@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 126d
I’m fine with just euthanizing them the old fashioned way; cancerous growth can only be allowed for so long before the rest of the body fails.
History has shown time and again that if you give the lower classes nothing to live for or buy into a society then violent revolution usually follows.
Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 127d
So fascists want no accountability, how rare
TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 127d
Rather worryingly UK police forces are using Palantir to collect data on officers and civilian staff. I wonder how deep it goes.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 126d
So when the food crisis hits from the straight of Hormuz fertilizer issue, maybe let's eat this guy first.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 127d
Peter Thiel should be in prison.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 127d
wouldve been if gawker wasnt sued to the ground, apparently they were reporting on things like these decades ago, he was just using the gay excuse to obfuscate his role and bankrolling hot-dog skin hogans lawsuit.
xSikes@feddit.online · 8 pts · 127d
Throw water on it
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 126d
Just what we need, a justice system based on pre-existing biases
piyuv@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 127d
The movie “Mercy” huh
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 6 pts · 127d
Im hoping that: at least they're trying this stuff with software that is not actually AI, so they'll fail.
Id still take them seriously though. This guy and everyone around him is insane.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
Motherfucker wants to create his own Eagle Eye.
musket528@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 127d
thiel talking about justice is ironic
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 127d
hes hoping the govt will give him contracts throughout the world, seeing is likely is AI companies are not faring as well as it should be. thiel dint report that the datacenters are probably costing him tons of money,.
Israel heavily depends on palantir AI to "give them targets" in palestine.
scytale@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 127d
Might as well have Judgeman at this point.
vane@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 127d
Humans probably should drop talking and writing to survive at this point in history.
BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 125d
apparently hes also behind CLAVICULAR suddenly being in the media. everyone said his rise in streaming/spotlight felt so unnatural, now we know why. thiel was funding him to be this way.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 1 pts · 127d
Bad cabling, bad temp management, who clips cables onto an ancient stone wall, freestanding severs, some racks are connected in isolation.
This is a great alegory for how well it will perform.