Invasive outside of Africa and Eurasia yes, but housecats and African/Eurasian wildcats aren't separate species.
Considering their username ends with UK I'm going to assume they're from the UK where cats have been around longer than humans. As long as they're neutered to avoid feral colonies cats are fine outside here.
housecats and African/Eurasian wildcats aren’t separate species.
They absolutely are, I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. Domestic cat: Felis catus, European wildcat: F. silvestris, and African wildcat: F. lybica. Hybridization with pets risks their genetic diversity, outcompetition, and disease transmission: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/60354712/50652361#threats
the UK where cats have been around longer than humans
Cats entered the UK around the same time humans did, via Doggerland during the Holocene. It should also be noted again that this is the European wildcat (specifically the Scottish wildcat subspecies), not domesticated cats, which descend from African wildcats. Domesticated cats only reached Europe a couple of thousand years ago. Their population density in comparison to wildcats and the advantage they have in access to human spaces and wild spaces means they reproduce more, which is part of why the Scottish wildcat is critically endangered.
It’s fine to have cats, it’s not fine to just invent facts about how they don’t actually harm the environment.
That focuses on predation without examining the threat to native wildcats through hybridization, territorial competition, and disease transmission from domestic cats, which the IUCN cites as risks to wildcat species. If no outdoor cat ever killed another prey animal again, that still wouldn’t solve the threats they pose to wildcat species.
It's funny how eugenics is widely accepted to be a bad thing when applied to humans, but for some reason "genetic purity" is still lauded for plants and animals.
The real threat to wildcats comes from humanity destroying their habitat (which is why the European wildcat, once endemic to the whole of Britain, is now only found in the north of Scotland). I'd personally imagine that hybridization is preferable to genetic extinction, as far as the wildcats themselves are concerned.
Also, like I said, Scottish wildcats are no longer found in the vast majority of Britain (through no fault of the domestic cat), so unless OP is in a particularly rural area of northern Scotland it's a completely moot point either way.
Post it on Facebook. I know it's Of the Devil (tm) but I found a cat a few weeks ago, posted him on the local group and I'd found the owner in less than a day.
This guy might've become Greasy if he managed to get under that hearse; Kovu is his name though, since my grandma's had other cats named after Lion King characters, and I thought she'd like keeping the motif going.
No, but I'm very familiar with the mid-quel tv series, Lion Guard. It was my 6-year-old daughter's first real info dump. She'll go on about the lore for an hour, explaining about Scar's return, the Roar, and why Kion doesn't show up in Lion King 2.
Cats that like to chill on car roofs are a different breed. Of all the cats I've had, only one was a car roof cat, and he was by far our biggest badass. I guess the rest of the cats know that only the boss is allowed to be that high.
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RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 30 pts · 144d
chartreuxeseses are so pretty
Dremor@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 144d
Looks to me more like a Russian Blue. Chartreux cats have a shorter snout.Maybe not. May be a half bread, or simply a SIC with chartreux ancestry. Definitive got the eyes and round head of a Chartreux.
Example of a Chartreux :
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 29 pts · 144d
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 144d
"Brown"
lordziv@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 142d
Omg thank you! I've always loved these grey, fluffy cats but I never knew the species name!
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 144d
Some cats go outside. This is a very healthy looking cat, so I'm sure it has a home. Don't steal cats.
Alk@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 144d
Every outside cat turned into an inside cat is a good thing. Cats are invasive and annihilate local ecosystems.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 144d
Yup! The lovely little goofballs love to murder things for fun.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 144d
Maybe that's why they got along with humans.
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 144d
TheWeirdestCunt@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 144d
Invasive outside of Africa and Eurasia yes, but housecats and African/Eurasian wildcats aren't separate species.
Considering their username ends with UK I'm going to assume they're from the UK where cats have been around longer than humans. As long as they're neutered to avoid feral colonies cats are fine outside here.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 144d
They absolutely are, I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. Domestic cat: Felis catus, European wildcat: F. silvestris, and African wildcat: F. lybica. Hybridization with pets risks their genetic diversity, outcompetition, and disease transmission: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/60354712/50652361#threats
Cats entered the UK around the same time humans did, via Doggerland during the Holocene. It should also be noted again that this is the European wildcat (specifically the Scottish wildcat subspecies), not domesticated cats, which descend from African wildcats. Domesticated cats only reached Europe a couple of thousand years ago. Their population density in comparison to wildcats and the advantage they have in access to human spaces and wild spaces means they reproduce more, which is part of why the Scottish wildcat is critically endangered.
It’s fine to have cats, it’s not fine to just invent facts about how they don’t actually harm the environment.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 144d
Alk@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 143d
I haven't laughed out loud to a comment in quite a long time, thank you friend.
MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 144d
Now that's a theme park!
icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
Outdoor domestic cats and wildlife: How to overrate and misinterpret field data
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
My kid once calculated the percentage of birds killed by cats and it was something insane like 0.0007%. Shame I can't find the calculion anymore.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 144d
That focuses on predation without examining the threat to native wildcats through hybridization, territorial competition, and disease transmission from domestic cats, which the IUCN cites as risks to wildcat species. If no outdoor cat ever killed another prey animal again, that still wouldn’t solve the threats they pose to wildcat species.
icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 144d
It's funny how eugenics is widely accepted to be a bad thing when applied to humans, but for some reason "genetic purity" is still lauded for plants and animals.
The real threat to wildcats comes from humanity destroying their habitat (which is why the European wildcat, once endemic to the whole of Britain, is now only found in the north of Scotland). I'd personally imagine that hybridization is preferable to genetic extinction, as far as the wildcats themselves are concerned.
Also, like I said, Scottish wildcats are no longer found in the vast majority of Britain (through no fault of the domestic cat), so unless OP is in a particularly rural area of northern Scotland it's a completely moot point either way.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 144d
Wrong country.
PS try humans in the annihilation department. Wayyyyyy worse.
Alk@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 144d
Yeah that's why I don't go outside either /s
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
Humans too
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 143d
Every human should be neutered before allowed outside, to avoid more colonies popping up and keep the population density manageable.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 143d
Yes, every outside human should be given a home too.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · -1 pts · 143d
Exactly. Too many extinctions.
STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 144d
No collar or chip; i've asked the neighbors and checked for missing pet posts online, but nothing came up for this guy.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Post it on Facebook. I know it's Of the Devil (tm) but I found a cat a few weeks ago, posted him on the local group and I'd found the owner in less than a day.
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 143d
Do you have a chip reader? Are they expensive?
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 143d
I use my Flipper 0 which is overkill for just RFID FDX-A or FDX-B tags, you can prob get just an RFID reader for like $30.
kindnesskills@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 143d
Cool, thanks!
STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Not me, but I took him to a local vet.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 144d
Every cat this color is named Dusty or Smoky.
STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 144d
This guy might've become Greasy if he managed to get under that hearse; Kovu is his name though, since my grandma's had other cats named after Lion King characters, and I thought she'd like keeping the motif going.
Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 144d
Nuh uh, mine's named Misty!
... Her mom is Smoky tho lol
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 144d
Mine is named Misty too and she is a gray cat as well lol I guess I'm not very imaginative
Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
That was my wife's call on the name lol I just call her Peaches because she's the sweetest kitty ever.
EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 144d
Damn you got me..in a way.
Mine is named Kyphi, ancient Egyptian for smoke/incense.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 144d
We went with "Grayson" :)
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 143d
Nope! Eugenia reporting in.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
Greycat is the name my family used.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
Mine are Mochi and Boba
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Ash
atrielienz@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 144d
My friend's cat is that color is named "Ishta".
moakley@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 144d
Like from Lion King 2?
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 144d
Is that what it comes from? A friend of mine has a cat with that name, and I thought it sounded interesting but never knew what it was from.
I've also never seen LK2.
moakley@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
Yeah, my kids are obsessed with it. It's... not great.
catbum@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
But have they seen The Lion King 3???
Jk, I'm always reminded of the Mandela effect when I hear about LK2, even being well aware of LK 1 1/2 lol. Where did LK3 go?!?!
moakley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
No, but I'm very familiar with the mid-quel tv series, Lion Guard. It was my 6-year-old daughter's first real info dump. She'll go on about the lore for an hour, explaining about Scar's return, the Roar, and why Kion doesn't show up in Lion King 2.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 144d
Hey OP my family recently lost our cat and this looks A LOT like like him. You didn't happen to find him in West Virginia in the US did you??
STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 143d
Nah, I'm in Texas
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Darn
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 142d
Cats that like to chill on car roofs are a different breed. Of all the cats I've had, only one was a car roof cat, and he was by far our biggest badass. I guess the rest of the cats know that only the boss is allowed to be that high.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
cat on a herse!
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 143d