Judge grants accused CEO killer Mangione's bid to suppress evidence due to unlawful search
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/luigi-mangione-due-court-ruling-backpack-evidence-ceo-killing-case-2026-05-18/
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snooggums@piefed.world · 152 pts · 89d
Since the police said they stopped violating his rights partway through an illegal search then the rest of the stuff still counts apparently.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 89d
The items they probably put in there during the illegal search.... facepalm
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 88d
plus the backpack after the fact is suspicious in itself. i wonder if they use surveillance AI/palantir to track him, some people illuded to them doing so.(how else was he found so fast, and that mysterious mcdonalds call.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 88d
To date, all we know is Luigi is the person who got arrested, but there's nothing beyond the tampered evidence to suggest that he's the same person who killed the mass-murdering CEO.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 88d
eluded* 🙇🏼♂️🖖🏼
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
I think they actually mean “alluded,” as in “made reference to,” not “eluded,” as in “stayed out of reach”
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 88d
Don't even need AI/palantir to arrest a rando actor. They hired him to be there. So of course they know where exactly to find him.
There really is no other explanation.
Imagine if you are the production company, keep in mind protest actors are routinely hired, and the cops STILL find a way to mess this up! it's like the female officer was given a different script than everyone else.
yeah yeah it's a bomb duh! Oh look a zipper lets pull it. In case anyone needs to know in the future how to design a trigger.
Oh wow this guy is handsome lets look dig thru the bomb bag for his wallet and look for his id and see if he was cuter when he was younger. DUH!
I'm feeling scared just walking thru what that lady was doing.
graduated from clownworld to Twilight zone.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 88d
Theories to that regard, doesn't even matter! Fruit of the poisoned tree is clear as day in this case.
Next case when they pick up some rando lets bring that point up.
disorderly@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 89d
I'm surprised this was allowed at all. The chain of custody on that evidence is incredibly suspect.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 88d
they do want to show the rich, they shouldnt be afraid, its more setting an example.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 88d
the rich, at this point, are even more concerned than the plebs that illegal search and seizure is impermissible in court.
Murse@slrpnk.net · 42 pts · 89d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree
This honestly feels like they're deliberately giving ammo to the defense team.
...well, assuming there's any intention to actually adhere to the law, which isn't the safest of assumptions nowadays.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 88d
The cops are more of a troop of clowns than the US govt announcements during Iran war. That is overachieving.
The judge should not be trying to salvage a case based on an obvious and undeniable illegal search. That just makes that judge look like from a foreign country. He's really digging deep trying to keep this going.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 20 pts · 89d
This sort of shit is why people continue to lose faith in the courts. The legal world chodes can blame politics all they want, but it all comes back to courts screwing over normal people to back up corrupt cops and prosecutors.
The courts err on the side of giving themselves and the government more power at the expense of our rights. They've earned our distrust.
They've completely eviscerated the spirit of the 4th amendment.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 88d
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 88d
whose
people? And no they are not. Perhaps you are lost?logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 88d
The prosecutor is the only group that has not done anything wrong, besides being thrown a shit sandwich. i'm not seeing prosecutor misconduct and would be very open to hearing more about that and supported by the published documents.
The issue is cops clearly making a mess of a very high profile case. Then the warrant rubber stamper and the trial judge both having delusions.
No jury can possibly take this case seriously. NY should throw in the towel. The warrant judge is not a warrant judge. Just another rando.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 88d
The prosecution is complicit. 🖕🏼
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 88d
Behold! My field, barren of fucks, faith, xor forgiveness. Look to my neighbors' lands, and see it is the same.
Fellow poors, we're not as different as They need us to believe. ✊🏼
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 88d
This gives a clear reason to appeal, but the actual trial is going to be so embarrassing, doubt the legal system can survive such scrutiny.
Really can't determine which country Pennsylvania belongs from the actions of the people they've placed in positions of authority.
Ashrakal@lemmy.ml · 75 pts · 89d
The evidence could be illegally planted, so that entire backpack is a fishy business, because the police officers turned their cameras off for some reason.
Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 89d
How did they miss a handgun on the first search? That was the thing they most wanted to find. It just seems impossibly sloppy, or there was no handgun to begin with.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 89d
Ding ding ding.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 89d
Maybe they all went into the bathroom together all at once? Sometimes a man or group of men just need a handjob. If they want to collectively admit that they messed up evidence collection so they could do a circle jerk, I'll allow it. Otherwise its pretty obviously evidence tampering, which is a crime.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 88d
it gets messy in there.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 89d
Freaking lmao. I hope Brian Thompson is looking up and realizing how much of a piece of shit he was in life
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 89d
Hope he's enjoying that lava sauna
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 88d
Poor magma. 🥹
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 88d
even so much, that his wife wanted nothing to do with him, they were estranged by the time of the "alleged shooting", plus she must be elated since she wont have a messy divorce battle.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 88d
I wonder what the difference is between their likely divorce award and a "wrongful" death spousal award. 🤫
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 89d
Alleged killer
Etterra@discuss.online · 19 pts · 88d
Accused works too. Just because they're accusing him don't mean he did it.
spacesatan@lazysoci.al · 10 pts · 89d
that's what it says
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 89d
Either Reuters they changed the title, or this was editorialized? Some was tossed, but not all.
Current Title: Judge denies accused CEO killer Mangione's bid to toss gun, notebook evidence
christian@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 89d
God imagine how much time it must save judges when the police do an illegal search first every time and only ask for a warrant after they know without a doubt it will get evidence.
El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 88d
Couldn't possibly be because they put it there during the first search that they didn't have a warrant for, and while their bodycams were conveniently turned off.
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 89d
They changed the title. I always copy and paste the exact title instead of letting it auto fill
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 89d
They really should update the story to indicate the title was changed when they do that, super lame of them.
stoly@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 89d
It really is great when the incompetence of law enforcement is beneficial to the community.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 88d
Clear case of subsequent searches based on the fruit of the poisoned tree. The only evidence is that backpack.
The forum is clearly NY law would apply, but the judge is trying hard to ignore the initial clearly illegal search. And give the officers every chance to continue doing whatever they'd like to do as long as it seems structured/organized.
The three or eight officers. Both situations, a reasonable person, would assume they are not free to leave. Those three officers would love to see you try!
These officers also broke down a detained suspect by never stop talking at him. And we asking investigative questions and not having a casual unrelated conversation. The rando dude at a McDonalds was being tossed around by the equivalent of a rape gang. There was clear intimidation to elicit continuous conversation after the rando dude said he'd like to remain silent and was not given any chance to do so.
But the biggest question i have is what is the purpose of the Pennsylvania judge approving the search warrant after it's clear as day an illegal search has occurred and the warrant is based on that evidence and only that evidence?!
The political activists pretending to be judges cannot save this case. Any reasonable jury would toss it based on the initial illegal search. At what point were they ever going to be serious about obtaining a search warrant? Really not convinced that is really any concern that Pennsylvania cares about.
The chain of custody is also all over the place. Any jury, in this era, will be hyper aware of chain of custody issues after all the voting machine issues during the last presidential election.
This case is doomed. All they had to do is kick everyone out of that McDonalds, including themselves, and leave the backpack untouched in the McDonalds but in their line of sight. And get that warrant. Especially if they want to be taken seriously that their excuse. There is always an excuse. But their actions and their excuse proves they are a gang, not a law enforcement agency.
Even with body cameras they still manage to mess this situation up .... badly.
Impressive.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 89d
Huge fucking win. I was assuming the worst that they'd allow the illegal search as evidence.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 30 pts · 89d
Not that huge. Only some of it is disallowed. The gun and journal are still allowed.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 89d
Still bullshit, they shouldn't allow anything found in the bag because they arrested him based on that illegal search, but this is still a big win. It omits large amounts of evidence.
teft@piefed.social · 26 pts · 89d
Especially since that whole "fruit of the poisoned tree" thing should mean everything that led from the illegal search should be thrown out.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 89d
Haha, if only that were regularly applied.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 89d
Oh sweet summer child.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 89d
No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d
Presumptive evidence.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 88d
Any reasonable jury will disagree. Not even actors would agree to be the jury that would rule in the gov'ts favor.
corbindallas@fedinsfw.app · 7 pts · 89d
I just read they allowed it https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/news/p/769795/judge-allows-gun-and-notebook-as-evidence-at-mangiones-trial-in-unitedhealthcare-c
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 89d
Quoth the raven, "404".
SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 89d
Man, its so upsetting that Luigi fucked up so bad. He had such a good setup, he could have got away clean if he hadn't made some really dumb mistakes. It's puzzling that he had so much of his plan on point but made such obvious errors.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 89d
Well "Luigi" actually is getting away with it.
And this would have been a flawless crime were it not for one major mistake: trying to pin this murder on our boy Mangione. So it's not over yet. Justice may yet prevail.
SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 89d
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 89d
Mangione is innocent! Such a shame these thugs are trying to put this horrible murder on this man.
FunStuffIsFun@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 88d
Yeah, he and I were playing Mario Kart when that CEO got shot.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 88d
Oh heck, what a coincidence, he was carrying me through some Elden Ring bosses then
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 89d
What's your take on the whole situation? Your comment makes me curious
BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 89d
Luigi is innocent. He has done no wrong.
logging_strict@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 88d
Innocent? He agreed to be an actor for this case.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d