'I'm delighted to be wrong': Sam Altman says AI won't lead to a 'jobs apocalypse' - but admits he was 'pretty wrong' on the social and economic implications it is having
https://www.techradar.com/pro/im-delighted-to-be-wrong-sam-altman-says-ai-wont-lead-to-a-jobs-apocalypse-but-admits-he-was-pretty-wrong-on-the-social-and-economic-implications-it-is-having
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kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 158 pts · 96d
CEO said a thing
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 96d
He has money so it must be important. Psychopathy is a virtue I'm told.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 96d
Casually betting a trillion on the wrong horse.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 105 pts · 96d
Sam Altman is a danger to our entire planet
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 96d
Sam AltmanBillionaires are a danger to our entire planetimjustmsk@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 94d
I have been ranting about billionaires online long enough, but what all can I actually do about all of it...?
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 95 pts · 96d
What qualifies this guy to make any predictions that are printable? He's just making random guesses.
athairmor@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 95d
It’s not random guesses, it’s intentional fictions to make investing in ‘AI’ companies sound like a good idea.
They think they can lie their way to real AI by convincing investors to pour enough money into them that poof real AI emerges.
They’re not going to get the poof they’re hoping for.
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 96d
Intellectual property thief is confidently wrong about a task he has no right or expertise to be performing anyway. The LLM didn’t fall far from the tree.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 5 pts · 96d
That's what heads of State, heads of Corporations, heads of your HOA - are for: making public statements.
Yeah, that's been all the rage for about a decade now.
4grams@awful.systems · 2 pts · 95d
You seem to forget, “More money = better than”
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 75 pts · 96d
Just in, guy who allegedly raped his sister is wrong.
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 96d
Wasn't his sister also developmentally disabled? Is that right? CEO Billionaire Sam Altman violently raped his disabled sister then admitted to it like it was a relatable situation?I was thinking of a different rich white guy that raped his sister.
Not every rich white guy, but seemingly always a rich white guy.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 95d
Even if those accusations are false, the man still had a billion dollars while his sister was homeless.
minfapper@piefed.social · 2 pts · 96d
Odd. I thought he was gay.
I know there's no rule saying gay people can't rape people.
But for some reason, my brain reacted with "Odd..." 🤔
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 96d
Rape is usually about power and control more than sex.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · -3 pts · 95d
There's actually a pretty long and interesting story behind this. Entire family even wrote a letter discrediting the claims. The claims coincidentally re-started after her bills were no longer getting paid. An apple doesn't fall far from the tree and we already know Altman has pathological lying disorder
This is why these claims never really go anywhere because mostly everyone realizes it's BS
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 48 pts · 96d
Can we pop this bubble already?
Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 95d
Not until the ultra rich have enough ai robots to protect them from an uprising
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Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 95d
You joke
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 95d
Can we start a revolution already? Nope and nope
RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 96d
He looks so fucking clueless and straight up lost. How is this guy a fucking CEO? Or just a useful idiot for others to complete that Ai circlejerk where everyone is dumping billions into each other companies to pump up the stocks?
Hapankaali@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 96d
Wealthy background. Dropped out, got lucky with a startup and sold his stake for a decent sum, gaining enough momentum to keep failing upward.
The guy is absolutely clueless, which can be mathematically proven on the basis of the fact that he invested in a crypto firm.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 96d
He didn't get lucky... him and others bamboozled investors into buying Loopt which was never functional, once sold, it shut down in months. Exactly what he is doing right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0K4XPu3Qhg
Early days discussion (what I am referencing here) starts at 2:15
Asafum@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 96d
I wish I had no morals... Life is so easy when you don't give a single fuck about what you do to others... It's so infuriating to see how many wealthy people have amazing lives because they simply don't give a single fuck about anything but themselves.
Sociopathy is greatly rewarded in this stupid world we live in. :/
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 96d
The trick is to be rich. Wealth and power does things to a brain and makes the empathy circuits wither and die, so perfect for getting even more rich.
Hapankaali@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
I didn't really look into what this startup did, but it doesn't surprise me. Elon Musk has a very similar kind of story, bullshitting his way to being a billionaire. The system is very heavily stacked in favour of dishonest people.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 4 pts · 96d
The system is very heavily stacked in favour of people with a lot of money to start with. Then, those that are "willing to risk it" can reap outrageous returns when their longshots come in. We don't see the losers, but the ones that hit their longshots are what we have "at the top" now.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 96d
I just want to be clear, most CEOs aren't smart. They have a slightly higher median intelligence than the wider population, but by and large CEOs are no more talented than your average used car salesman. While there's certainly outliers (on both sides), most intelligent people don't start careers in a field with an 80%+ chance of failure in the first 5 years. Altman's success in particular is 50% luck, 50% being a very convincing liar. These people aren't geniuses, they pay people to think for them, which is why having a machine think for them sounds like a great idea.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 3 pts · 96d
Carl Icahn disagrees: https://www.cnbc.com/2014/07/16/icahn-too-many-companies-run-by-morons.html https://dealbreaker.com/2007/10/icahn-explains-why-are-there-so-many-idiots-running-shit
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 95d
I mean no disrespect to Carl, but he has a very generous take on how we got here. I'm sure it's happened that way somewhere, but how common is it really? I'm more inclined to believe people are more easily suckered by confident incompetence than they like to believe.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 3 pts · 95d
In 2003-2005 (when I first read those sentiments from Carl) I was working at a 1000 employee corporation valued at $1B market cap which functioned EXACTLY like that. I don't see it much in smaller companies, but in the large ones - yeah, I see it a lot. Come to think of it, the first small company I worked at had a guy who worked like that, but it only showed up around layoff time. He'd hire smart people, but keep the "safely dumb" ones and try to get rid of those who might be a threat to him. Luckily he was 3rd tier, VP, beneath a President and CEO who vetoed most of his targeted dismissals. He eventually was invited to leave and chose to continue his career as a college professor, rated worst on campus for terrorizing his students.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 95d
I've worked for quite a few major companies now, and the one thing that always gets me is the top brass always think they have magical intuition about people. That's how they justify it, both to themselves and to others based on what I see. The ones they're promoting are the ones they think are just smart enough to keep the wheels running. What they actually are are just straight up idiots who are very good at taking credit, and deflecting blame, and have no other notable talent. And then they just keep failing upward, leaving a wake of failure that is always someone else's fault or "valuable lessons" that didn't have to be learned the hard way if they were actually capable of thinking critically.
These people don't "Fake it 'till they make it" they just fake it, and keep faking it, because they have no idea what they're doing, but they're a much more successful predator than their peers as they cannibalize the company from within. And then these parasites make it to the boardroom and any chance to slow them down vanishes. I've seen it play out exactly like that a dozen times, at promising startups, and venerable old-guard corporations, Fortune 500s and corner stores.
MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 94d
I spent a bit of time with a retired CEO who oversaw a huge decade of growth in his company. 5 years post retirement he still knew a lot of the workers at all levels by name, was very well liked by everyone we met. He had a few observations about his success:
I didn't do anything magical, I was just in the right place at the right time and I didn't screw it up too badly. I have heard similar sentiments from investors who made it big during the .com bubble.
My biggest challenge was in hiring people. In a given year, if 50% of my hires didn't actively make things worse, that was a good year.
Re: And then these parasites make it to the boardroom and any chance to slow them down vanishes.
What I have seen of board room denizens is: they are personally wealthy and well connected. They exist mostly to provide "warm introductions" for relationships that may make themselves richer. They retain their seats through their personal wealth/power and the connections it brings, and the company retains them by providing them something they value - either monetary or powerful connections.
Being on the board isn't what makes them unstoppable. Being in control of F.U. money x10 is what makes them unstoppable.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 94d
That's one of the most humble CEOs I've ever heard of. Most will spin you a yarn a mile long about how all their success was their own brilliant strategy. Their survivorship bias regarding all the ones that were just as capable and worked just as hard, but never got their shot or were effectively given a field promotion to captain of a sinking ship is wild. Their self-awareness, and recognition of the field of corpses they happen to be the last-man-standing in frequently seems to be lacking.
And as for the parasites in the boardroom, the decision to move executive compensation packages to stock options instead of a salary decades ago had consequences I don't think the Old Money folks fully respected. How the parasites came to control that grade of F.U. money is not trivial.
Soulphite@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 96d
A lot of CEO's could say they have no clue what they're doing and mostly just 'faked it till they made it; and still fake it'
StillAlive@piefed.world · 3 pts · 96d
Speaking of looks, why does he look like he's had some unnecessary plastic surgery?
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 96d
Because he probably did. Most of these people are vain as shit.
Chulk@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 96d
I think that psychopaths naturally claw their way up to that position, so it checks out
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 96d
...he says after two years of some of the biggest tech layoffs in history that have impacted numerous tech businesses.
Maybe he just means he knows the companies are lying about layoffs for AI and it's just an excuse to cut labor, but I doubt it.
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 96d
Yeah the job market is teetering and quite frankly I think the numbers coming out are a little cooked these days, because they paint a rosier picture than I see around me.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 94d
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 94d
They didn't even change the photo for the article
stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 94d
Let's be honest, we all keep talking. The question is who put a mic in front of this bumbling idiot.
Or who knows, maybe someone put a mic there to let him self-destruct. One can hope.
underThunder@thelemmy.club · 23 pts · 96d
atrielienz@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 96d
Oligarch tries to walk back claims to prevent backlash from investors and the general public.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 95d
He’s delighted that the jobs apocalypse is underway when he predicted it wouldn’t happen. Okay, so?
This guy is such a tool. Can’t stand him!
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 95d
Some 8,000 people that just got laid off at Meta disagree.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 95d
That layoff was happening regardless
e461h@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 95d
And it’s still fair to call out Meta for using that as bs cover.
super_user_do@feddit.it · 16 pts · 95d
CEO says bullshit like it wasn't his fucking job
Hairyfishnuts@feddit.online · 16 pts · 96d
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 96d
So hard to find a good plumber
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 95d
So easy to find a goomba.
Reygle@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 95d
Let's hope he "sees the light" just before a new "Luigi" rounds the corner behind him.
Fingers crossed
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 95d
Reygle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 95d
I'd settle for that, but I would prefer he fully realizes just how shit he's been JUST as it happens.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 95d
Reygle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
Why not both? 👍
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 95d
Ok, both is good
magnue@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 96d
Dude seems just so out of touch at this point. You can't make confident threats about the technology and then just go 'oops haha'
Antaeus@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 96d
Sam Altman should shut up. He is partly to blame for this.
Selfish prick.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 12 pts · 96d
Sam allotment has the eyes of a man the ai has been using as a meat puppet for a year.
This spelling error was brought to you by swype. Any decent keyboards or there?
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 96d
I've been using Heliboard on Android for a while now and like it, basically FOSS swipe keyboard.
Currently uses Google's closed-source swipe library which you have to manually download, but they're actively working on crowd sourcing an open source one which you can contribute to in the app.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 96d
All the AI ceos are 100% high on their own supply.
Most CEOs likely are, because it tells them what they want to hear, and they have minions to actually make it work.
Real people are likely to see the AI is bullshit,but they're insulated by humans dealing with it
Nickelalloy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
Haha nice one, I have been using Floris Board from F-Droid, really nice so far!
dontgogettingtooclever@piefed.social · 2 pts · 96d
I sacrificed auto-completion and went with flickboard
800XL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 94d
Fuck off Altman. Seriously. It's unfortunate your dad didn't hug you enough as a child but you didn't have to compensate by growing up to be a fuck head. He's still not going to hug you.
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 96d
CEO of tech company talks about slop.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 94d
It's the token model that will kill it
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 94d
Honestly trying to treat token like watt is pretty crazy. Like a watt of power truly is a scientific standard. A bit of information is closer but again pretty standard, you know what are sending when you choose to send or receive a bit of data. Trying to apply a standard utilization rate to a unit of information in exchange for a non-deterministic rate, size, or quality back is nuts.
How do you meaningfully show an ROI on that?
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 94d
Once those bills start hitting company profits, companies will pull back
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 92d
IF they'rt are dependent on investor funding that demand signals of them using
They will pay the bills with someone elses money so as long as the checks cash
mlg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
I wonder how long they can keep the circus running though. They were obviously trying to vendor lock enterprise size businesses in before they eventually nuke the cost model, and Deepseek just preemptively slashed their cloud pricing probably knowing that everyone else will just migrate or even run on older cloud hardware which providers can sell by watt (and demand).
China might be behind on hardware, but their biggest wrench in the gears will probably just be popularizing their published LLMs which don't require multiple nuclear powerplants to run lol.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 90d
There is an argument that token costs can be recorded as operational expenditure but it's the same argument used for cloud infrastructure, so many companies are going to get hit with multimillion dollar bills for tokens, which will have the effect of reeling in and limiting token usage or moving away from it completely.
binux@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 96d
Waiter! Waiter! I'll have my billionaire with a side of politician, please!
fritobugger2017@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
He still needs to be scheduled for a guillotine fitting. I'm sure there is one in his size.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 95d
No bro, companies are not replacing workers with AI, we are delusional.
devolution@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
dispassionate@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 96d