Yeah lol I’d say most men have seen at least a couple women without makeup. Like if nothing else moms/aunts/sisters/cousins, if not friends/intimate partners (if they’re attracted to/date women on the latter point)
What? Men should know makeup alters your appearance, but how is one supposed to divine how much? Some people are naturally attractive or use less than others. Some people can look drastically different with clever techniques. Some use a ton, that's not apparent in photos.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should be able to work it out in your head for every single woman you see, but that makeup actually doing the thing it exists to do shouldn't be this massive shock to anyone who has any close relationships with women in their normal lives. Acting like this app is some big gotcha moment as it's portrayed is maybe one smidge better than being shocked to find out on your 30th birthday that women poop.
Who apparently shares much in common with bitter women. It also seems that somehow, trying to deny people their gender identity is totally treating them as people...
Seems like it was a conversation about attacking men who don't do what you want by calling them children. But hey, maybe I misunderstood the first post.
Sharing your opinions of how others chose to dress or act is weird unless you are doing it to influence others. Trying to influence people by belittling them is rude.
You could be saying it about how someone dresses, or dances, or what bike they chose to ride.
It is unfortunate that men belittling women about their makeup is so pervasive in our culture that after at least three generations of people highlighting how hurtful it is, people still think their right to state their opinion of random people is more important than people's right to go through their day without being accosted.
It’s usually not complete strangers, but friends and partners: “you look better with less makeup”, “why are you wearing that?”, “see you look good without makeup!”, “are you OK, you look sick?”, “what’s wrong, are you sad?”
Just to point out, women also belittle other women for their make up choices. And even do so more frequently than men. By a lot.
Its one of the single most common results any time research looks into the topic. Women almost exclusively attack other women for their looks at rates higher than men in every culture iv ever seen research on the topic in.
This is generally true of any hobby or activity that's gendered preferenced. Same sex hate in hobbies, appearance and other facteds of life is always an order of magnitude more common than cross sex hate.
So while you not wrong that it's a problem when men do it. Its a problem when anyone does it full stop. But your also being a raging fucking ignorant misandrist right now on top of it.
Stop it. If your going to bitch about the endless soical problems humanity has. At least do so with out also being part of the problem please.
What do any of those things have to do with the conversation. They didnt understand why men sharing an opinion about women's makeup was a problem. I explained my view of it.
Life is unfair and people can be mean isn't a justification its just whataboutism cope. Rather than actually letting people consider that maybe their behavior has hurt people you are helping them justify it because people maybe somewhere other people were mean to some other person probably.
The same way someone saying that you would look better without glasses, or would look better with short hair, or would look better if you worked out more is all belittling.
You are trivializing the choices or non choices a person made. You are implying that the way a person looks is in some way wrong or could be better, that they are less than.
I think it is more like wearing colorful lenses and then somebody tells you your eye color is cute why you prefer wearing lenses. But I kinda get it. Though I still think it is fine to complement no makeup. If I cut my hair and get complements I wont get upset
I just don't agree with it. People experience others and have every right to share how they experience the world around them, even if that hurts someone's feelings. No one has a right to never hear an opinion that makes them feel bad. You're not children, you're adults.
My experience is that you would come off as a lot more approachable online if you used less words. You might think that using all those words covers up your flaws but I think you could use a lot less words and be your authentic self and people would like being around you more.
I think if you can't tell the two categories apart you should talk about it with a healthcare professional. I don't know what it's called in English, but there exists a type of therapy focused on teaching and developing skills that could be helpful.
Healthcare professionals don't generally judge people to be whining. They try to listen and understand them. Which is hard to do if you dismiss people as whining because you lack the emotional intelligence to hear their grievances.
Personally I find all make be it on a woman or man. To be the single ugliest thing a person can do to them self. Its vile and revolting. It looks highly unnatural, and actively causes me stress some times and I have no idea why. It triggers my flight or fight response when someone has too much on and I can't accurately make out their features.
Perfume and Cologne is the same way. In my 30 years of life iv never found a single perfume or cologne be it on a man or woman. That did not actively make me gag and make my eyes water. I can frequently taste it on the air long long after many people can't. Which I assume is part of the problem. I'm just hyper sensitive to almost all fragrances.
90% of laundry detergent, soaps, and basically anything with a scent does exactly the same thing to me.
Iv been yelled at for involuntarily gaging when women walk by me because I can so strongly taste their perfume.
If I could I would out right ban all make up and scents. They are terrible things and from the outside looking in. They seem to do nothing but perpetuate a endless cycle of social abuse. People get judged for using them. For not using them. For using too much, or not enough.
So far as I can tell there's not a single good thing socially that has come from the invention of non medical cosmetics.
What stray said but also omg, please write more clearly. Write full sentences and don't put random sentence breaks in places they don't belong. I assume this is a second language issue and I apologize but it needs grammar work and as long as you're being rude you can at least be easy to read.
To a random person that makes sense ... But like this is something partners typically express.
Have you just never been in a healthy relationship where you can talk to your SO about their appearance and your preferences honestly?
Being sexy for your partner requires you to actually understand their prefences and fetishes. So you can make appeals to them.
There's nothing wrong and if anything it's highly unhealthy for the relationship to be scared to express your physical preferences. Its even worse if you are unable to accept the information openly.
It sounds like you might just either have had horridly unhealthy experiences with men. Or are possibly just a narcissist. Depending on the context your speaking about.
Seriously, a healthy relationship is foundationally built on understanding and part of that is knowing your partners perfences. It goes both ways.
You wouldn’t find that comment really weird from anyone you’re not sexually involved with? Yeah obviously it’s different when it’s a partner, but that’s not what we’re talking about. Unsolicited advice on how I groom myself is creepy to me. I think you’d find it creepy too, which is why I tried to give a more relatable example. Evidently that makes me a narcissist, jesus. Can’t talk about anything.
Nobody is talking to you, though, or any specific woman, just women in general. That you equate 'I prefer women who shave their legs." with "Shave your legs, atomicrange!" shows some kind of thought pattern, for sure. Or maybe less thought and more feelings.
People do talk to individual specific women this way. That’s what we’re talking about.
It’s not that you’re misunderstanding or being uncharitable or there’s a miscommunication, it’s because I’m not thinking, I’m just a dumb woman only feelings no thoughts head empty. Thanks for the valuable discussion, love trying to give a perspective and being met with condescension.
That may be what you have reduced the discussion to, a personal experience, but the op comment spoke generally, not specifically, as did I. So we are not talking about the same thing. At what point did you start thinking specifically, and not generally?
If your beleifs don't come from a well reasoned argument, from where else but feelings would your thoughts arise?
You seriously need to stop following me. Imagine having the gall to tell a woman to calm down while talking about men being shitty about women seeing makeup. Fuck all the way off.
The gall? The gall to expect others to never have an opinion you don't agree with and if they do? BLOCK THEM! Like a child putting their finger in their ears. I look forward to the inevitable block. It will let us converse about you in peace, without you knowing about it. Kind of like that Tea app.
It was December, 2038. The girl soul crushing worldview of boys bad has caused unspeakable horrors. Two months ago they attacked the boy-grain, or boain for short. Without those food supplies our boy population will not be able to sustain itself. It is a grim time ahead for boys. If only the girls were not so cruel.
Edit: Nice edit that’s not in your edit. For the record I’m not following you, this is a public forum. I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about.
And I have zero shits to give what gender you are.
I think makeup is cool, the standard of having to wear makeup is bullshit. When my girlfriend doesn't wear makeup people ask if she's sick. It seems like a lot of work.
This is one of the biggest reasons I never got into makeup. I remember being a teen and hearing people ask women, "Are you okay?" when they didn't do their full makeup routine. I thought, "Man, it's got to hurt to feel like having a natural face means something's wrong with you. I'd rather go into the world how I am and have that be accepted as normal."
I could honestly see it if it's like, someone who has known you for 20 years and you make a point of always doing your face to the nines. like maybe it's genuine concern, changes like that can signal having low energy associated with depression or etc etc etc but then I'm an overthinker and I worry too much.
But it's like work acquaintances will do it to her when she doesnt do full foundation and this and that and the other thing, which is just so goddamn rude.
I had a coworker apologizing for her appearance "What's the big deal? You're just not wearing makeup today.", her and another older coworker were surprised and the older one stopped wearing makeup to work the next day with a smile on her face.
is she pale and uses it to add color? makes a lot of sense.
i am a very pale dude and people accuse me of being sick my entire life ever since i was a kid. i've never really been sick though.
it never occurs to people that being pale is natural or acceptable. it's always something to mock, and make fun of and seeing as negative.
i just think it's fucking weird to be so judgemental and hostile about other people's skin color(s). but i don't ever really comment or think about on other people's pigments or lack thereof.
Apparently it’s even easier than ever as you can just give a selfie to AI models and it can do all the “photoshopping” for you without actually learning those skills.
If you think that's sexy. You'll jizz your pants playing Hrot. That game is a masterwork in using shades of brown. It's also probably the best of the new boomershooters.
Quake maps are famous for being primarily shades of brown. The make up is just shades of brown like Quake maps.
Ever since the Kardashians became famous, women tend to imitate this look when they want to look glamorous. I've never been a fan of that style of make up. I especially raise an eyebrow when white women do it because it kinda seems like brown face to me.
When my woman gets all dolled up, I want her looking like Dr. Frank-N-furter.
Yes, men usually have Makeup X-ray vision. We can see right through it, and we all know exactly how much you've personally applied, and how good your personal natural skin is. True story.
certain kinds of makeup are more normalized than others.
and plenty of men already are wearing it, you just don't notice because it's not obvious. just like with women who wear it but people think they are 'natural'.
depends on what your goals are. i think it's weird af, but i'm not a vain person who goes around judging other's looks and worrying about my own. for some people, that's all there is in life. i think anyone who uses make up is not someone I really want to be close with and i find my partners mroe attractive when they are no make up and wearing sweatpants than i ever have when they are dressed up and do up their hair and put on makeup. I honestly don't really enjoy it, but I pretend to for their sake because most women seem addicted to the notion that they are 'ugly' if they are wearing nice fashionable clothes and makeup.
Gross as in, you're changing the face that someone is presenting to the world, because you think you know better than they do how they should present themselves.
What the fuck? Are you saying the app like sends the result to the person, and says SEE?!? I think it just shows the user a picture, tbh. But yeah it's probably not super accurate anyway.
You're not wrong, you're simply not what they prefered. If you were, then they would have had a better experience. Why did being right or wrong enter the conversation?
Accurate? Like, seriously, it's clearly a degenerative generative AI tool, it's literally imagining things the way its designer would probably approve, and you turn it into sick advocacy of misogynist people bitching about body art? I'm leaving your comments as they are, as a testament to how sick this is, but please do reconsider your world view, you seem to be more than capable of that.
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9point6@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 68d
Drop the "usually"
Very much still a boy if you don't know this
Some guys sadly never reach the requisite level of maturity to graduate to manhood.
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 68d
Yeah lol I’d say most men have seen at least a couple women without makeup. Like if nothing else moms/aunts/sisters/cousins, if not friends/intimate partners (if they’re attracted to/date women on the latter point)
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 68d
......................and some women look better without than others. Do we all understand skin quality is variable?
far_university1990@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 68d
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 68d
What? Men should know makeup alters your appearance, but how is one supposed to divine how much? Some people are naturally attractive or use less than others. Some people can look drastically different with clever techniques. Some use a ton, that's not apparent in photos.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
you're talking about reality of the situation.
not the emotionally charged rage bait of it.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 1 pts · 68d
I don't think anyone is suggesting that you should be able to work it out in your head for every single woman you see, but that makeup actually doing the thing it exists to do shouldn't be this massive shock to anyone who has any close relationships with women in their normal lives. Acting like this app is some big gotcha moment as it's portrayed is maybe one smidge better than being shocked to find out on your 30th birthday that women poop.
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 1 pts · 68d
They
WHAT?!
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 68d
9point6@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 68d
Hello, I'm an actual man
The only ones excluding guys that can't treat women as people are the guys themselves. These really are pretty basic concepts
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 68d
Who apparently shares much in common with bitter women. It also seems that somehow, trying to deny people their gender identity is totally treating them as people...
9point6@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 68d
Dude, this is a discussion about how ignorant guys should not be shocked by what women actually look like.
And how it's kinda a baseline piece of becoming a mature, well rounded person
Are you intentionally telling on yourself, or..?
liuther9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
Post says nothing about being shocked. It is interesting tool and I personally like it despite knowing makeup magic. Yall just toxic
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 68d
Seems like it was a conversation about attacking men who don't do what you want by calling them children. But hey, maybe I misunderstood the first post.
9point6@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 68d
You certainly did
I don't give a shit what they do
That's completely orthogonal to whether they have mentally matured past the age of 8
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 68d
So you hate the mentally disabled?
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 3 pts · 68d
Back in my day, we had a phrase for posts like this.
"Don't feed the trolls" I believe.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 67d
The new generation have forgotten the old ways.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 7 pts · 68d
and actual men everywhere too.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 62 pts · 68d
"man develops app to discover women are cute without makeup, more at 11"
Any man that whines about women wearing makeup in any way is just signaling to everyone he's a waste of their time.
stickyprimer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -18 pts · 68d
jerakor@startrek.website · 27 pts · 68d
Sharing your opinions of how others chose to dress or act is weird unless you are doing it to influence others. Trying to influence people by belittling them is rude.
You could be saying it about how someone dresses, or dances, or what bike they chose to ride.
It is unfortunate that men belittling women about their makeup is so pervasive in our culture that after at least three generations of people highlighting how hurtful it is, people still think their right to state their opinion of random people is more important than people's right to go through their day without being accosted.
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
How common is it that random people just tell women on face these things? Asking out of genuine curiosity
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 68d
It’s usually not complete strangers, but friends and partners: “you look better with less makeup”, “why are you wearing that?”, “see you look good without makeup!”, “are you OK, you look sick?”, “what’s wrong, are you sad?”
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 68d
Just to point out, women also belittle other women for their make up choices. And even do so more frequently than men. By a lot.
Its one of the single most common results any time research looks into the topic. Women almost exclusively attack other women for their looks at rates higher than men in every culture iv ever seen research on the topic in.
This is generally true of any hobby or activity that's gendered preferenced. Same sex hate in hobbies, appearance and other facteds of life is always an order of magnitude more common than cross sex hate.
So while you not wrong that it's a problem when men do it. Its a problem when anyone does it full stop. But your also being a raging fucking ignorant misandrist right now on top of it.
Stop it. If your going to bitch about the endless soical problems humanity has. At least do so with out also being part of the problem please.
jerakor@startrek.website · 1 pts · 68d
What do any of those things have to do with the conversation. They didnt understand why men sharing an opinion about women's makeup was a problem. I explained my view of it.
Life is unfair and people can be mean isn't a justification its just whataboutism cope. Rather than actually letting people consider that maybe their behavior has hurt people you are helping them justify it because people maybe somewhere other people were mean to some other person probably.
liuther9@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
Genuine question. How thinking that your "default" face looks much cuter than covering it with some products is belittling?
jerakor@startrek.website · 1 pts · 67d
The same way someone saying that you would look better without glasses, or would look better with short hair, or would look better if you worked out more is all belittling.
You are trivializing the choices or non choices a person made. You are implying that the way a person looks is in some way wrong or could be better, that they are less than.
liuther9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
I think it is more like wearing colorful lenses and then somebody tells you your eye color is cute why you prefer wearing lenses. But I kinda get it. Though I still think it is fine to complement no makeup. If I cut my hair and get complements I wont get upset
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 68d
Well that's definitely a take. People can't have experiences of others and share them.
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 68d
You really aren’t getting it eh? People are literally spelling it out for you and you’re still completely dodging the point.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 68d
I just don't agree with it. People experience others and have every right to share how they experience the world around them, even if that hurts someone's feelings. No one has a right to never hear an opinion that makes them feel bad. You're not children, you're adults.
jerakor@startrek.website · -1 pts · 68d
My experience is that you would come off as a lot more approachable online if you used less words. You might think that using all those words covers up your flaws but I think you could use a lot less words and be your authentic self and people would like being around you more.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 68d
You make a lot of assumptions to make yourself feel better.
stray@pawb.social · 23 pts · 68d
Having a preference and whining are not the same thing.
Things that are fine to say in relevant social contexts:
Things that are creepy to say in any context:
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 68d
See this sounds like whining to me. How does one tell the difference?
stray@pawb.social · 1 pts · 68d
I think if you can't tell the two categories apart you should talk about it with a healthcare professional. I don't know what it's called in English, but there exists a type of therapy focused on teaching and developing skills that could be helpful.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 68d
Healthcare professionals don't generally judge people to be whining. They try to listen and understand them. Which is hard to do if you dismiss people as whining because you lack the emotional intelligence to hear their grievances.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 68d
Personally I find all make be it on a woman or man. To be the single ugliest thing a person can do to them self. Its vile and revolting. It looks highly unnatural, and actively causes me stress some times and I have no idea why. It triggers my flight or fight response when someone has too much on and I can't accurately make out their features.
Perfume and Cologne is the same way. In my 30 years of life iv never found a single perfume or cologne be it on a man or woman. That did not actively make me gag and make my eyes water. I can frequently taste it on the air long long after many people can't. Which I assume is part of the problem. I'm just hyper sensitive to almost all fragrances.
90% of laundry detergent, soaps, and basically anything with a scent does exactly the same thing to me.
Iv been yelled at for involuntarily gaging when women walk by me because I can so strongly taste their perfume.
If I could I would out right ban all make up and scents. They are terrible things and from the outside looking in. They seem to do nothing but perpetuate a endless cycle of social abuse. People get judged for using them. For not using them. For using too much, or not enough.
So far as I can tell there's not a single good thing socially that has come from the invention of non medical cosmetics.
stray@pawb.social · 21 pts · 68d
This is valid:
This is needlessly insulting:
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 68d
What stray said but also omg, please write more clearly. Write full sentences and don't put random sentence breaks in places they don't belong. I assume this is a second language issue and I apologize but it needs grammar work and as long as you're being rude you can at least be easy to read.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 68d
Not all men, but definitely you
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 68d
That's the kind of prejudiced reasoning that makes the mess to begin with.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 68d
It's not prejudiced to judge someone for their actual actions
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 68d
And what have you concluded about me from these alleged actions?
reliv3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
That you have an impressive talent in accumulating downvotes 😬
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 67d
Haha
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
Honestly? That you have difficulty stating things in a way that people will interpret as you intend. Or that you're trolling.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 68d
I'm sorry, that sounds awfully close to whining about women wearing makeup.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 68d
I wine when anyone wears it men or women. Make up just sucks and freaks me out on a fundamental level. Shit scares the actual fuck out of me.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 68d
God forbid someone have an opinion on makeup that isn't positive! Stone them!
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 68d
“I prefer it when you don’t shave your legs”. So? Keep it to yourself weirdo, I’m not doing it for you.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 68d
To a random person that makes sense ... But like this is something partners typically express.
Have you just never been in a healthy relationship where you can talk to your SO about their appearance and your preferences honestly?
Being sexy for your partner requires you to actually understand their prefences and fetishes. So you can make appeals to them.
There's nothing wrong and if anything it's highly unhealthy for the relationship to be scared to express your physical preferences. Its even worse if you are unable to accept the information openly.
It sounds like you might just either have had horridly unhealthy experiences with men. Or are possibly just a narcissist. Depending on the context your speaking about.
Seriously, a healthy relationship is foundationally built on understanding and part of that is knowing your partners perfences. It goes both ways.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
You got me being a narcissist from just that?
You wouldn’t find that comment really weird from anyone you’re not sexually involved with? Yeah obviously it’s different when it’s a partner, but that’s not what we’re talking about. Unsolicited advice on how I groom myself is creepy to me. I think you’d find it creepy too, which is why I tried to give a more relatable example. Evidently that makes me a narcissist, jesus. Can’t talk about anything.
Zexks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
Yes look at op posting a generic preferemce amd youre in here taking it as a personal assault. Do better
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 68d
A salient and compassionate perspective.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 68d
Nobody is talking to you, though, or any specific woman, just women in general. That you equate 'I prefer women who shave their legs." with "Shave your legs, atomicrange!" shows some kind of thought pattern, for sure. Or maybe less thought and more feelings.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 68d
People do talk to individual specific women this way. That’s what we’re talking about.
It’s not that you’re misunderstanding or being uncharitable or there’s a miscommunication, it’s because I’m not thinking, I’m just a dumb woman only feelings no thoughts head empty. Thanks for the valuable discussion, love trying to give a perspective and being met with condescension.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 68d
That may be what you have reduced the discussion to, a personal experience, but the op comment spoke generally, not specifically, as did I. So we are not talking about the same thing. At what point did you start thinking specifically, and not generally?
If your beleifs don't come from a well reasoned argument, from where else but feelings would your thoughts arise?
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 68d
God forbid a woman doesn't want to hang out with you.
(repeat for all women until no woman wants to hang out with you)
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 68d
Are you implying I suggested otherwise? I support a woman's right to choose, as I do a man's.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · -7 pts · 68d
Found the manchild who cannot get it up. Sad.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 68d
Oh, attack the assumed sexual capabilities of your target, very original.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · -30 pts · 68d
You seriously need to calm down.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 68d
You seriously need to stop following me. Imagine having the gall to tell a woman to calm down while talking about men being shitty about women seeing makeup. Fuck all the way off.
Edit: meh. Blocked
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -25 pts · 68d
The gall? The gall to expect others to never have an opinion you don't agree with and if they do? BLOCK THEM! Like a child putting their finger in their ears. I look forward to the inevitable block. It will let us converse about you in peace, without you knowing about it. Kind of like that Tea app.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 25 pts · 68d
Homie going to bat for every piece of shit dude he never met in existence right now
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 68d
And every good dude caught in the crossfire, and anyone else harmed by such a vicious and cruel worldview.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 68d
It was December, 2038. The girl soul crushing worldview of boys bad has caused unspeakable horrors. Two months ago they attacked the boy-grain, or boain for short. Without those food supplies our boy population will not be able to sustain itself. It is a grim time ahead for boys. If only the girls were not so cruel.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 68d
Didn't say girls, I said worldview, one not all girls share.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · -29 pts · 68d
Bye Felicia!
Edit: Nice edit that’s not in your edit. For the record I’m not following you, this is a public forum. I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about.
And I have zero shits to give what gender you are.
DisasterTransport@startrek.website · 49 pts · 68d
I think makeup is cool, the standard of having to wear makeup is bullshit. When my girlfriend doesn't wear makeup people ask if she's sick. It seems like a lot of work.
e: this app is weird af though
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 68d
This is one of the biggest reasons I never got into makeup. I remember being a teen and hearing people ask women, "Are you okay?" when they didn't do their full makeup routine. I thought, "Man, it's got to hurt to feel like having a natural face means something's wrong with you. I'd rather go into the world how I am and have that be accepted as normal."
DisasterTransport@startrek.website · 9 pts · 68d
I could honestly see it if it's like, someone who has known you for 20 years and you make a point of always doing your face to the nines. like maybe it's genuine concern, changes like that can signal having low energy associated with depression or etc etc etc but then I'm an overthinker and I worry too much.
But it's like work acquaintances will do it to her when she doesnt do full foundation and this and that and the other thing, which is just so goddamn rude.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 68d
people don't like change.
they do the same thing if you change your style, your hair, etc.
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 68d
I had a coworker apologizing for her appearance "What's the big deal? You're just not wearing makeup today.", her and another older coworker were surprised and the older one stopped wearing makeup to work the next day with a smile on her face.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 68d
is she pale and uses it to add color? makes a lot of sense.
i am a very pale dude and people accuse me of being sick my entire life ever since i was a kid. i've never really been sick though.
it never occurs to people that being pale is natural or acceptable. it's always something to mock, and make fun of and seeing as negative.
i just think it's fucking weird to be so judgemental and hostile about other people's skin color(s). but i don't ever really comment or think about on other people's pigments or lack thereof.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 67d
I'm sorry that you suffer for your paleness
If I could give you some of my ruddiness, I would. I usually look like a tomato XD
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
isn't that worse? people seem to idealize tan skin as being the peak of desirability. like that mediterrean pigment of southern italians.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 68d
SolarPunker@slrpnk.net · 24 pts · 68d
Natural is also attractive
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 68d
usually know what?
edit: ... the headline has removed 'without makeup'
very funny
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 68d
I expect sexism in the comments and I'm still disappointed every time. Yikes. Do better Lemmy.
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 68d
Right? Holy shit. I am surprised and a bit perturbed by how many people are on board with sexism in this thread
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 68d
A lot of parts of Lemmy have a sexism problem
Bogus007@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 68d
AFAIK on Reddit you get BANNED right away. If you are lucky for few days, otherwise eternally.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 67d
Why don't you accept people for who they are and stop setting your own never fulfilled expectations?
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 20 pts · 68d
Makeup is art, and the face is a canvas. The only time when it isn't okay is when it becomes an expectation rather than something done freely.
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 68d
Literally! What's everyones deal... Omg
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 68d
I don't even bother with dating profiles where every single photo has a filter on it. It's anyone's guess what the person actually looks like.
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 68d
Apparently it’s even easier than ever as you can just give a selfie to AI models and it can do all the “photoshopping” for you without actually learning those skills.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 68d
I wonder what the plan is for when they meet someone in real life?
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 67d
AR glasses auto-applying your preferred FaceTune filters?
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 68d
i think my favorite is profiles where every photos is them on vacation, happy and smiling stuff.
then you find out they hate their life/job and the only time they are ever happy is on vacation...
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 67d
Welcome to planet Earth
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 68d
Right is much better.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 68d
I am also a lesbian. 😄
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 68d
K
khaleer@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 68d
"Man develops app to put pre-made filter on top of women photo to match developer's opinions based on too much of JoeRogan and other such podcasts"
I never thought that journalism in 2026 could match back side of my comic book mag from 2006...
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 68d
Modern make up sucks. Used to, women put on lots of make up to look all glamorous and sexy. Now they put on lots of make up to look like a Quake map.
sneezycat@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 68d
Quake maps are sexy
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
If you think that's sexy. You'll jizz your pants playing Hrot. That game is a masterwork in using shades of brown. It's also probably the best of the new boomershooters.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
I'm curious what that has to do with the makeup itself, and not the application.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 67d
Quake maps are famous for being primarily shades of brown. The make up is just shades of brown like Quake maps.
Ever since the Kardashians became famous, women tend to imitate this look when they want to look glamorous. I've never been a fan of that style of make up. I especially raise an eyebrow when white women do it because it kinda seems like brown face to me.
When my woman gets all dolled up, I want her looking like Dr. Frank-N-furter.
kieron115@startrek.website · 8 pts · 67d
Last time this picture/tweet was posted I believe the purpose of it was to help locate victims of human trafficking.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
Yes, men usually have Makeup X-ray vision. We can see right through it, and we all know exactly how much you've personally applied, and how good your personal natural skin is. True story.
Etterra@discuss.online · 4 pts · 68d
I wonder what all that blank space used to say.
LarsIsCool@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 68d
Men who have actual relationships with women usually know this because they see us without makeup and even naked metimes.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 67d
I'm not at all surprised literally nobody in this cesspit of a thread noticed that OP figured out what the app is actually for.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 68d
Whats with the weird spacing of the reply?
Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 68d
Men [who have actually slept/been with a woman] usually know this
That’s my guess.
Juice@midwest.social · 2 pts · 68d
At first I thought it was whited out but now I think its intentional and tbh I fw this
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 68d
That makes it look edited though. I like the other guy's idea as to what was edited out.
tixnou@feddit.cl · 1 pts · 68d
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 68d
As you wish...
vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
We're not gonna take it!
jackintosh@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 68d
JD Vance?
tixnou@feddit.cl · 2 pts · 68d
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 68d
what makeup specifically?
certain kinds of makeup are more normalized than others.
and plenty of men already are wearing it, you just don't notice because it's not obvious. just like with women who wear it but people think they are 'natural'.
tixnou@feddit.cl · 2 pts · 68d
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
depends on what your goals are. i think it's weird af, but i'm not a vain person who goes around judging other's looks and worrying about my own. for some people, that's all there is in life. i think anyone who uses make up is not someone I really want to be close with and i find my partners mroe attractive when they are no make up and wearing sweatpants than i ever have when they are dressed up and do up their hair and put on makeup. I honestly don't really enjoy it, but I pretend to for their sake because most women seem addicted to the notion that they are 'ugly' if they are wearing nice fashionable clothes and makeup.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 68d
Yeah but how accurate is it?
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 68d
I'd imagine not very, also it's kind of gross in a hard to quantify way, at lest hard for me.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -17 pts · 68d
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 68d
Gross as in, you're changing the face that someone is presenting to the world, because you think you know better than they do how they should present themselves.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 67d
What the fuck? Are you saying the app like sends the result to the person, and says SEE?!? I think it just shows the user a picture, tbh. But yeah it's probably not super accurate anyway.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 68d
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 68d
Who better? Anyone who is not you, because anyone else would know not to say anything because nothing needs to be said.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 68d
howrar@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 68d
So if I go out wearing a Star Trek and encounter someone who wants to meet a Star Wars fan, then I'm in the wrong for choosing that shirt?
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 68d
You're not wrong, you're simply not what they prefered. If you were, then they would have had a better experience. Why did being right or wrong enter the conversation?
howrar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 68d
So they would have a better experience encountering a Star Trek fan posing as a Star Wars fan?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 68d
And that's bad because...? Surely you don't blame the individual for this?
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 68d
I didn't say it was bad, nor did I cast blame. Two giant leaps there.
alzymologist@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 68d
Accurate? Like, seriously, it's clearly a degenerative generative AI tool, it's literally imagining things the way its designer would probably approve, and you turn it into sick advocacy of misogynist people bitching about body art? I'm leaving your comments as they are, as a testament to how sick this is, but please do reconsider your world view, you seem to be more than capable of that.