That's funny, but I can't imagine someone spending all that money on a bunker without a positive air pressure system thats intake has NBC filters, solvent filters, etc. It'd be like shelling out thousands building a gaming rig with a 480i, monochrome, CRT monitor.
Once we liberate the animals from the factory farms we load up dump trucks filled with manure and bury them alive in it. Asphyxiate on the fumes of a few tons of chicken shit or drown in it, idc.
Well, the problem will be their perimeter security.
You'd essentially be treated as a VBIED, and lit the fuck up by assault rifles and/or swarms of suicide drones.
So... you could maybe attempt the 'killdozer' strategy...
Or, you could try low visibilty / high mobility.
Motorcycle, fuck maybe even an E-Bike, and hand made thermite charges.
Shitty thermite is really not that hard to make.
If you got through either AP Chem or a first year of Chem classes at Uni, and you can read the wikipedia page for thermite, you can probably figure it out. Also not that hard to figure out how to ignite it. Sparkle sparkle!
Just melt the air vents.
For further creativity, either wait for or stage nearby distractions.
And then have a very thorough plan to completely fucking vanish.
... you'd also have to, you know, gather all the required supplies for any plan, in a manner that does not raise anyone's suspicions, and probably do some tests first.
That's the nearly impossible part... you will almost certainly be unexpectedly meeting with Mr. FBI during that stage.
If they're in bunkers the FBI isn't helping. Society has collapsed. Cut utilities and destroy generators from afar. You can trebuchet tar balls, rocks, anfo, napalm, whatever to deal with remaining resistance. Or yeah killdozer, they're unlikely to have anything more than .50BMG and construction equipment is fleet keyed.
Every bunker has at least one secondary "escape" hatch" in case the primary entrance is obstructed - generally it's buried and isolated/insulated from the thermal mass of the rest of the bunker so it doesn't show up on IR, but a metal detector will work wonders for finding them.
You can also find them with ground penetrating radar since they tend to use sand as that insulating layer. From underneath they open a hatch and drain the sand out to clear the escape hatch. A big block of sand is plain and obvious to identify on a 250MHz system.
Every bunker will be built by people who won't be invited to live in it. The locations of all exits, vents, water supplies, etc. won't stay secret for very long.
Can also go the brute force route and overload the structure a lot of the time. Park a couple water tankers, a crane, whatever on top. They're usually not made with the intention of supporting an extra 100tonnes
Why is everyone assuming the truck is actually filled with concrete? Mythbusters famously demonstrated they can be used to carry, and mix, a wide variety of products.
Like fertiliser contaminated with diesel, for example.
An empty one would be a lot easier to steal, they get filled, driven to site, and emptied. Filling one yourself would mean knowing how to operate the plant.
Getting the AN into it would be relatively easy, you just need to find a loader or telehandler.
They'll have to have ventilation, so dump as much liquid nitrogen down there as possible. It will convert to gas at a rate of 696:1, and fill every nook & cranny of the bunker with pure nitrogen gas, which will solve the problem within a few breaths.
THEN encase it in concrete, and leave it for some archeologist to discover in 10,000 years.
No, the bunkers are for a post-digital world. Digital money will have evaporated. Those bunkers will be filled with gold bars, precious gems, and art. Also useful barter items.
Aside from being sealed by concrete and not the vault door, that pretty much is like half the vault experiments. I would even include the Gary clone vault as one. Those clones were fairly gollum like.
If they are hiding in their bunkers because of an ecological disaster then we're all screwed. If they are hiding in their bunkers from us...then we'll get 'em eventually.
They aren't sitting in their bunkers because they don't need to. People have still too much to lose to try making the concept of consequences real for billionaires.
Here is the thing about bunkers. Unless they have installed some way to power that bunker and provide water and food that cannot be destroyed, it's a self-made trap. They can be ignored and the denizens will die in the cold damp darkness of starvation and dehydration. With a probable side dose of madeness.
In another post, I suggested dumping a few hundred liters of Liquid Nitrogen down the vents. It will convert to gas at a rate of 696:1 in a matter of minutes, and squeeze onto every nook and cranny, and the problem will be entirely solved in a few breaths.
85 Comments
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 153 pts · 82d
Just find the air intakes and get creative
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 102 pts · 82d
How much glitter can a HEPA filter hold?
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 64 pts · 82d
Enough to be faaaaaaaaabulous!!!!!!!!!
WereCat@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 82d
How much surmstrong can it block?
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 82d
Heh, are you trying to say Surströmming?
WereCat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 81d
yes
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 28 pts · 82d
Expanding spray foam insulation oughta do the trick
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 82d
Fart spray then foam.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 82d
Devious. It's perfect.
Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 82d
Fart
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 82d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thioacetone
crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 13 pts · 82d
this guy stink bombs
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 82d
That's funny, but I can't imagine someone spending all that money on a bunker without a positive air pressure system thats intake has NBC filters, solvent filters, etc. It'd be like shelling out thousands building a gaming rig with a 480i, monochrome, CRT monitor.
stevestevesteve@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 81d
You can't imagine someone like Elon musk or Donald Trump getting a critical feature wrong ?
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 81d
I can't imagine either one of them doing something as productive as setting one brick on top of another, much less designing and building a bunker.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Hi
Homo_Erectus@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 82d
Oh shit we're doomed
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 81d
- my dad when I was born
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 82d
What's your favorite idea?
Mine is being creative.
Fetus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 82d
Green is not a creative colour.
read_desert@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 81d
OMG flashbacks to those skits
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 82d
Once we liberate the animals from the factory farms we load up dump trucks filled with manure and bury them alive in it. Asphyxiate on the fumes of a few tons of chicken shit or drown in it, idc.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 81d
I like this one.
Just cover critical areas in a literal metric ton of shit.
... Also, if they're using thermal cameras, random mountains of shit popping up could actually work as a kind of concealment, or confuse them.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 82d
Well, the problem will be their perimeter security.
You'd essentially be treated as a VBIED, and lit the fuck up by assault rifles and/or swarms of suicide drones.
So... you could maybe attempt the 'killdozer' strategy...
Or, you could try low visibilty / high mobility.
Motorcycle, fuck maybe even an E-Bike, and hand made thermite charges.
Shitty thermite is really not that hard to make.
If you got through either AP Chem or a first year of Chem classes at Uni, and you can read the wikipedia page for thermite, you can probably figure it out. Also not that hard to figure out how to ignite it. Sparkle sparkle!
Just melt the air vents.
For further creativity, either wait for or stage nearby distractions.
And then have a very thorough plan to completely fucking vanish.
... you'd also have to, you know, gather all the required supplies for any plan, in a manner that does not raise anyone's suspicions, and probably do some tests first.
That's the nearly impossible part... you will almost certainly be unexpectedly meeting with Mr. FBI during that stage.
redsand@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 81d
If they're in bunkers the FBI isn't helping. Society has collapsed. Cut utilities and destroy generators from afar. You can trebuchet tar balls, rocks, anfo, napalm, whatever to deal with remaining resistance. Or yeah killdozer, they're unlikely to have anything more than .50BMG and construction equipment is fleet keyed.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
sundray@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 82d
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uT_nSACr6K4
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 82d
Every bunker has at least one secondary "escape" hatch" in case the primary entrance is obstructed - generally it's buried and isolated/insulated from the thermal mass of the rest of the bunker so it doesn't show up on IR, but a metal detector will work wonders for finding them.
The_v@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 82d
So you need two cement trucks.
Thteven@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 82d
One cement truck, a metal detector, lawn chair, 12 gauge, and some beers oughta do it.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 82d
This guy
fuckshunts!Drusas@fedia.io · 8 pts · 82d
Load the secret entrance to with booby traps all around it. Much more entertaining.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
Or more for the big ones, assuming they didnt go the "massive hydraulic rams under a big rock" route.
iocase@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 82d
You can also find them with ground penetrating radar since they tend to use sand as that insulating layer. From underneath they open a hatch and drain the sand out to clear the escape hatch. A big block of sand is plain and obvious to identify on a 250MHz system.
lauha@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 82d
I'll just use my Amazon basics ground penetrating radar then
pipe01@programming.dev · 22 pts · 82d
Sounds like you have a suspicious amount of experience
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 82d
I'm guessing utility location.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 82d
Every bunker will be built by people who won't be invited to live in it. The locations of all exits, vents, water supplies, etc. won't stay secret for very long.
GuillaumeGus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 82d
That's why you kill the workers in tragic accidents.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 82d
That's where the bee truck comes in.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 82d
What's this? A bunker full of billionaires unbothered by bees? My dump truck full of bees ought to put a stop to that!
Soulg@ani.social · 14 pts · 82d
Thanks, doctor bees!
redsand@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 81d
Can also go the brute force route and overload the structure a lot of the time. Park a couple water tankers, a crane, whatever on top. They're usually not made with the intention of supporting an extra 100tonnes
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 74 pts · 82d
Why is everyone assuming the truck is actually filled with concrete? Mythbusters famously demonstrated they can be used to carry, and mix, a wide variety of products.
Like fertiliser contaminated with diesel, for example.
Steve@startrek.website · 47 pts · 82d
A cement truck full of cement is much easier to steal than a cement truck full of anything else.
thurstylark@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 82d
A cement truck empty of cement would be marginally easier to steal than a cement truck full of cement...
The problem becomes filling that cement truck with anything else, though...
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 82d
An empty one would be a lot easier to steal, they get filled, driven to site, and emptied. Filling one yourself would mean knowing how to operate the plant.
Getting the AN into it would be relatively easy, you just need to find a loader or telehandler.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
Steal? Tell them your plan and you'll have volunteers!
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 82d
Just set ANFOgetaboutit.
snooggums@piefed.world · 11 pts · 82d
Because trapping them in is just as effective.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 82d
Less fun though.
Drusas@fedia.io · 5 pts · 82d
I actually think it's funnier to just trap them in.
wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 82d
Then it becomes Schrödinger’s billionaire.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 39 pts · 81d
They'll have to have ventilation, so dump as much liquid nitrogen down there as possible. It will convert to gas at a rate of 696:1, and fill every nook & cranny of the bunker with pure nitrogen gas, which will solve the problem within a few breaths.
THEN encase it in concrete, and leave it for some archeologist to discover in 10,000 years.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 81d
The tombs of the wealthy will be raided a pillaged like the tombs of the pharaohs.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 81d
And like the pharaohs, these assholes really think they're gods.
Zron@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d
Why? All the money is 1’s and 0’s on the computer. I’d not like they physically have a billion dollars in printed stocks.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 81d
No, the bunkers are for a post-digital world. Digital money will have evaporated. Those bunkers will be filled with gold bars, precious gems, and art. Also useful barter items.
Also weapons and ammo.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 80d
You can't eat gold and gems. In all honesty we need to retire most jewelry and use the stuff industrially.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 82d
It’s more likely to be the mercenaries that already killed said billionaire and now control the compound.
Be careful might want to killdozer-up the cement truck first.
wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 82d
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 82d
Finally a vault that Bethesda didn't think of.
A vault full of gollums, sealed in with concrete.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 14 pts · 82d
Aside from being sealed by concrete and not the vault door, that pretty much is like half the vault experiments. I would even include the Gary clone vault as one. Those clones were fairly gollum like.
Drusas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 82d
Just load it up with angry wasps and bullet ants before you seal it up.
scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 82d
Use sewage trucks, come on did we learn nothing from Saints' Row?
SeaSgt@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 82d
This is the way.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 82d
If they are hiding in their bunkers because of an ecological disaster then we're all screwed. If they are hiding in their bunkers from us...then we'll get 'em eventually.
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 82d
I say TWO cement trucks, just to be sure. We have nothing better to do.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 82d
would that be THIEL tyring to flee to argentina. I read NEW Zealand blocked his bunker construction, thats why hes going to argentina instead.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 82d
As is tradition.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 81d
You may want to hold your breath Zuck.
spacehulk@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 82d
I'm in. When are we doing this?
6244901@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 82d
Bros been waiting for this! 😭
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 81d
They aren't sitting in their bunkers because they don't need to. People have still too much to lose to try making the concept of consequences real for billionaires.
Ogy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 81d
Yes, but the point is that scaring them now with this idea of the future may help prevent it.
They think their bunkers will be safe in X years and lots of people are going to ensure they aren't
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 81d
Here is the thing about bunkers. Unless they have installed some way to power that bunker and provide water and food that cannot be destroyed, it's a self-made trap. They can be ignored and the denizens will die in the cold damp darkness of starvation and dehydration. With a probable side dose of madeness.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 82d
Concrete
Saapas@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 82d
Nah we are going to get the water and aggregates closer to the bunker
sundray@lemmus.org · 7 pts · 82d
"Yay! Yay! They've come to fix the landing pad!"
kungen@feddit.nu · 6 pts · 82d
Don't you think these weirdos have thought about that and have some crazy CO2-removal system so they'd survive a long time without air intake?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 82d
Do we care at that point? Let them live in hole - for as long as the food lasts
crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 13 pts · 82d
how long have they been building up this immunity by huffing their own farts? eons
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 81d
In another post, I suggested dumping a few hundred liters of Liquid Nitrogen down the vents. It will convert to gas at a rate of 696:1 in a matter of minutes, and squeeze onto every nook and cranny, and the problem will be entirely solved in a few breaths.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 81d
Leave a vent to shit down
quitthebiz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
There was a Clone Wars book about just this. You can imagine how it ends.
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 82d
You don't even need to bother with cement. Just dump rocks or dirt.