Part of the point is that the Emperor is also not perfect. He got too full of himself which led to his deification against his will. He was also literally an imperialist and an authoritarian.
As I interpret the lore his intentions were largely noble but his hubris and refusal to acknowledge the existence of the Chaos gods led to the disillusionment of many of his kids/generals, thus leading to the Horus Heresy and the shitty state of the 41st millennium.
I looked into it, and it’s our whole galaxy that’s maybe in a void. There’s plenty of space inside our galaxy to not give a shit about what’s not here.
In astronomy, Galaxy clusters are just areas where the density of galaxies is above average and voids are areas where the density is below average. Galaxies attract each other, so the material for Galaxy clusters has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is voids.
That and dark energy. Although this may apply for cosim super-voids and not a void in a cluster, but the expansion of space is faster in areas of space that have less mass than cosmic strings. So if someone built a ship and tried to enter a void they would have to overcome the 'escape' (not really but I don't care enough to use the correct terms correctly) velocity of the galaxy, and the expanding space ahead of them.
Dark matter just makes voids more isolated from each other. Our void is still within the greater Laniakea Supercluster, but our immediate area is very sparse. The only galactic merger that the Milky Way will experience is with Andromeda in 1.5 billion years, and maybe with Traingulum a bit after. But there will be a ton happening in the Virgo Cluster next door as those galaxies are all close enough to each other that gravity is the predominant force in the region. But the galaxies in the middle of the cluster will gather towards their gravitational center, while the galaxies at the periphery of the cluster will form a "shell" of sorts. Voids are just the bubbles that remain from the gathering of clusters.
It's basically the same reason why it's so hard to leave Earth. You can't just jump. Or fly in an aeroplane. You need a rocket with enough fuel. Otherwise you will fall back down again.
It's a good thing the rate of catastrophic collisions with neighboring bodies is at its lowest in a void. At this point we may as well assume our lack of neighbors was beneficial to our being here in the first place
"They're made of cheesits."
"Cheesits?"
"Cheesits. Those orange fuzzy things that crunch. One of their world leaders even looks like one."
"But how do they communicate?"
"They rub their cheesit bodies together to make non-commital sounds like 'I cant even' "
"That's too weird. Let's quarantine this place and get the hell out of here."
"Agreed. At least they cant harm us out here." David Blaine teleports behind them both with a pack of cards.
Yeah it's like a couple hours into the party there's that one guy who has a lot of distance around him because he's already cornered everyone individually to ramble at them about his dumb hobby
Yeah, I figure once (signs of) life showed up in the atmosphere, galactic civilization probably started isolation/quarantine procedures until we can show we are actually social, civil, and communal instead of violent, competitive, and individualistic.
It goes the other way too. Paradox solved: We're in an island of stability, and life doesn't get the chance to develop in denser, more chaotic regions.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to sit at home and criticize every well-intentioned solution made in good faith that I see posted on the internet while I plant my eyes on a screen all day doing nothing substantial to help solve the problem or support the ones who might be able to make a difference.
Interesting story but not even remotely "BREAKING!" I read about this a year or two ago. Apparently the solar system is in a fairly star-sparse region of space.
And "trapped" is an interesting way to frame it. I was under the impression that its a boon for life - less astronomical neighbors means less stuff to interrupt its development.
Yes, "trapped" might mean fewer nearby aliens to invite us to join their Galactic Federation and explain now to cure cancer and build warp drives, but it also means fewer apocalyptic-size chunks of crap careening around the neighborhood.
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Darkard@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 85d
Oh, that explains... gestures broadly
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 48 pts · 85d
urandom@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 85d
Why do they got skulls? Are they, like, the baddies?
SlacksMcTavish@lemmy.ml · 39 pts · 85d
That's the fun part, they are all baddies!
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 84d
Nah, there's good guys. The problem is they live next to Space Rome and three different kinds of Attila.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 85d
They had a based designer, but yeah.
rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 85d
Part of the point is that the Emperor is also not perfect. He got too full of himself which led to his deification against his will. He was also literally an imperialist and an authoritarian.
As I interpret the lore his intentions were largely noble but his hubris and refusal to acknowledge the existence of the Chaos gods led to the disillusionment of many of his kids/generals, thus leading to the Horus Heresy and the shitty state of the 41st millennium.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 85d
Quoting THE GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND:
"Guys im not a god, just a man"
I'll go and see whos knocking on my door now.
Though joking aside, yeah that was the issue. He was just human. Powerful one, but still a human.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 84d
And a genocidal fascist.
It's not subtle.
akwd169@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 85d
Bow to the dark ones and be set free kinda deal
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
Who knew we were on a chaos world trapped in the warp forever begging tortured for the amusement of the rich and powerful...
_chris@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 85d
I looked into it, and it’s our whole galaxy that’s maybe in a void. There’s plenty of space inside our galaxy to not give a shit about what’s not here.
yaroto98@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 85d
We got put in time-out.
einlander@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 85d
Galactic Quarantine.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 85d
Everything is in a giant void, dipshit. It came for free with the expansion of the universe
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 84d
Not sure of the specifics on the article, but astronomical voids are their own specific thing, not just the vacuum of space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_%28astronomy%29
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 85d
Oh yeah? Well I have the oldest universe known to man.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 85d
Yeah but what is this void made of?!
KraeuterRoy@feddit.org · 31 pts · 85d
yakko@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 85d
Saw a video about this. Apparently galactic voids are pretty hard to enter for reasons that elude my 6am brain. Something to do with gravity.
WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social · 19 pts · 85d
In astronomy, Galaxy clusters are just areas where the density of galaxies is above average and voids are areas where the density is below average. Galaxies attract each other, so the material for Galaxy clusters has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is voids.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
That and dark energy. Although this may apply for cosim super-voids and not a void in a cluster, but the expansion of space is faster in areas of space that have less mass than cosmic strings. So if someone built a ship and tried to enter a void they would have to overcome the 'escape' (not really but I don't care enough to use the correct terms correctly) velocity of the galaxy, and the expanding space ahead of them.
WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social · 3 pts · 84d
Dark matter just makes voids more isolated from each other. Our void is still within the greater Laniakea Supercluster, but our immediate area is very sparse. The only galactic merger that the Milky Way will experience is with Andromeda in 1.5 billion years, and maybe with Traingulum a bit after. But there will be a ton happening in the Virgo Cluster next door as those galaxies are all close enough to each other that gravity is the predominant force in the region. But the galaxies in the middle of the cluster will gather towards their gravitational center, while the galaxies at the periphery of the cluster will form a "shell" of sorts. Voids are just the bubbles that remain from the gathering of clusters.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 85d
I think it's to do with the combined gravity of the "strings" of galaxies, stars, etc. being far stronger than nearly nothing.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 4 pts · 84d
It's basically the same reason why it's so hard to leave Earth. You can't just jump. Or fly in an aeroplane. You need a rocket with enough fuel. Otherwise you will fall back down again.
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 84d
We're in space jail because we don't play nice with others.
leagman1@feddit.org · 15 pts · 84d
Also because we horny
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 84d
Also because earth is a deathworld
LetThereBeNick@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 85d
It's a good thing the rate of catastrophic collisions with neighboring bodies is at its lowest in a void. At this point we may as well assume our lack of neighbors was beneficial to our being here in the first place
Jeremyward@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 84d
Not to mention good weather in the neighborhood, no gamma ray bursts nesrby or supernova or whatnot
tetris11@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 85d
"They're made of cheesits."
"Cheesits?"
"Cheesits. Those orange fuzzy things that crunch. One of their world leaders even looks like one."
"But how do they communicate?"
"They rub their cheesit bodies together to make non-commital sounds like 'I cant even' "
"That's too weird. Let's quarantine this place and get the hell out of here."
"Agreed. At least they cant harm us out here."
David Blaine teleports behind them both with a pack of cards.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 85d
They're Made out of Meat
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 85d
My first thought.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 85d
Cheez Its
rapchee@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 85d
it actually might be the reason we're around, because in more "populated" areas, unfortunate cosmic events are more frequent too
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 84d
on purpose heh. wouldnt be polite to drop us into polite galactic society as barbaric as we are
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 84d
Yeah it's like a couple hours into the party there's that one guy who has a lot of distance around him because he's already cornered everyone individually to ramble at them about his dumb hobby
bss03@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 84d
Yeah, I figure once (signs of) life showed up in the atmosphere, galactic civilization probably started isolation/quarantine procedures until we can show we are actually social, civil, and communal instead of violent, competitive, and individualistic.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 85d
Would it help if we got out and pushed?
bampop@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 84d
Fermi paradox solved: We're out in the boonies and no self respecting intelligent lifeform would be wasting their time wandering around here
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 83d
It goes the other way too. Paradox solved: We're in an island of stability, and life doesn't get the chance to develop in denser, more chaotic regions.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 84d
Unless there is spice here which the Empire needs. Earth's bio-organic molecules may very well be unique in the entire cosmos.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 84d
We have used almost all of our oil. That’s why they don’t want us.
Leg@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 82d
But we have so many ants. You have no idea how lucrative those are to interstellar beings.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 83d
It also might be the answer to the fermi paradox
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 83d
yea.... large time scales, quiet neighbourhood, goldilocks zone, fuckton of water and jupiter as warden. If I were life I'd defo develop there
Evotech@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
We chillin
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 84d
So that's why God is ignoring us. Earth rolled into his couch cushions and got lost.
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 2 pts · 84d
JD Vance is the plague of gods couch cushions.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 84d
One thing's for sure, I'm going to sit at home and criticize every well-intentioned solution made in good faith that I see posted on the internet while I plant my eyes on a screen all day doing nothing substantial to help solve the problem or support the ones who might be able to make a difference.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 85d
It's not.
redsand@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 85d
That's stellar not galactic scale
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 84d
Even then not.
kureta@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 84d
What do they mean "trapped"? Is it a bad thing? Does it have any effect on anything earth-related? Is earth being held there by an unknown force?
Piemanding@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 84d
Meaning that if we don't immediately accelerate to near the speed of light, we are stuck here.
MortUS@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Huh, that really makes the only livable planet in our entire galaxy just that much more important.
phlegmy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 84d
You better start pushing then
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
Interesting story but not even remotely "BREAKING!" I read about this a year or two ago. Apparently the solar system is in a fairly star-sparse region of space.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 83d
And "trapped" is an interesting way to frame it. I was under the impression that its a boon for life - less astronomical neighbors means less stuff to interrupt its development.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Yes, "trapped" might mean fewer nearby aliens to invite us to join their Galactic Federation and explain now to cure cancer and build warp drives, but it also means fewer apocalyptic-size chunks of crap careening around the neighborhood.
synae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 85d
Not again!
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 85d
Holy crap! trump is really screwing up, on a galactic scale. /s
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 83d
Aka quarantine.
Samsy@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 83d
God took his shoot in a lonely place. Maybe better so we can't breed over other places.
EldenLord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
So what they‘re saying is that nothing around the world should have me worried?
benny@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 84d
Isn't stuff like this in the drake equation or something more up to date? Lack of activity or the right amount probably helps life.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 84d
Probably the pre-Sol star that burst a lot of matter out, and we’re something that was left somehow.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 85d
Just give it a few million years.
TTimo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 85d
Millions? Ah!
mrodri89@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 84d
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 84d
Yes, it is.
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 1 pts · 84d
Gulagtic prison.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 83d
Ahhh, fine, I guess it's my turn anyway. I'll be back in a bit.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 83d
Okay, we're good.