Yup, was just going to comment this. Bombs right on time to try and kill any ongoing negotiations. Israel is not a friend to the US, and trump clearly has no control over the situation. Shit, trump going into this nightmare at netanyahoo's request is so on brand for the moron magats and trump.
Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere..
No, the people of Iran are between a rock and a hard place.
But I think people can maintain a cause in defence of themselves longer than the US can maintain their offensive.
The US just hit critically low oil levels where it’s impossible to continue depleting them. They’ve reached low enough levels using pipelines are threatened by being able to maintain pressure.
The US now has to decide if they want to lose internal oil transport and shut down infrastructure. All right before midterms.
who started and is continue this conflict: USA and israel, just to keep epstein out of the news. iran is no saint, but they arnt the aggressors in this conflict.
To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war
The war is won by either side only when Iran inflicts a permanent defeat on its enemies, or it ceases to be a functional state. Any deal in between, if it even goes through, will only postpone the resumption of the war, as it has been for what, about the last 45 years.
I would guess Iran is holding out to cripple the Israelis. The fact the Zios aren't just taking what they've won and going home until next time is evidence they're jot just evil, they're all fucking insane. Letting this go on once the conquest of Lebanon slows down is so fucking stupid.
I think you can make a lot of legitimate critiques of the Israeli state, but suggesting g they can't be trusted to hold to a treaty? No. That's just totally baseless antisemitism.
Baseless, really? Israel have shown themselves to be a bunch of perfidious schmucks since the inception of their state 70 years ago. They can't be trusted to hold even a ceasefire with Palestine/Lebanon/Iran and have repeatedly attacked during negotiations.
Your cry of antisemitism has worn out at this stage through ridiculous overuse and hyperbole. The only thing Israel has shown lately is that they have no honour or morality.
Tanking any ceasefire is literally in Israel's best interest. Their goal is the elimination of Iran as a regional power. They don't want to help Trump get out of this war, they want him to fully commit to it. American boots on the ground is the best possible outcome for them.
Oh so we should just base our judgement of Israel on the thing they have done literally every single time for their entire existence and 'the protocols of the elders of zion'? But you're not an antisemite? Fucking troll.
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say in your comment. The words are in English but they are arranged in such a way that they literally do not make sense. If you have never studied English good try, if you have your English teacher deserves a slap and you need to go back to school junior.
You also somehow attempted to shoehorn the "protocols of the elders of Zion" into your comment. I'm sure the irony will go straight over your head but I find it hilarious that you are trying to talk about a 100 year old hoax in response to me calling out your false claims of antisemitism. Your username is "ironycanal" too, perhaps you will appreciate the irony after all.
American here. I haven't heard the claims, but they're likely true if Trump is upset.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
Yeah, there's these things called the Epstein files. They're pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what's in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they're also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.
According to leaks to Iranian media the draft includes a reconstruction which will result in Tehran receiving $300 billion to rebuild its cities. Also included will be the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian funds, half of which must be paid to Iran before fresh talks start.
Damn, that's an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.
Are Americans happy they've been put in a position their leadership has to pay either instead of your hospitals? or school funding? or, god forbid, housing and food security for your multitudes of poor?
No one here has brought those up as possible alternatives. Extra money will never go to helping people here, because half the country thinks they are temporarily embarrassed royalty.
It is impossible to verify the draft agreement, which the Mirror has been given, because it could be a Tehran bid to combat the lies about settlements uttered by Trump.
Even the mirror is calling all sides as lacking credibility, fucking hell if that's not an indication of how fucked this whole situation is...
Iran will keep it closed until after the elections. They understand exactly how poisonous this is to Trump, and how it will affect MAGA in the election. Keeping the Strait closed hurts Trump and MAGA more than all the missiles in their arsenal, and they have to do almost nothing to maintain it for as long as they feel like it.
If Trump tries to throw a few missiles, they'll just retaliate by bombing our shitty friends (but not Saudi Arabia, never the Saudis), who will then get madder at US.
Why doesn't Iran attack KSA, apart from a few US bases? I thought they were the main rival in the region, and given the extent that the US and Israel have already been attacking them I don't see much risk of escalation
They don't need to. They're winning, and widening the conflict now can only hurt them. All Iran has to do is sit tight, lob a missile at the strait every now and then, and wait for the US to fold. They've found the perfect strategy for this situation and opponent.
You guessed right my friend. If I was the supreme leader, I’d definitely try and hit at Trump’s political influence. A lame duck president would probably ensure a more lasting peace.
That is a wild thought. I saw something that said the top ten percent of the economy is the only sector of the economy showing any movement. Essentially that 90% of Americans have zero economic power.
Your observation kinda lines up with that. It would also make "I love the inflation" make sense. The capital class is doing good.
Hold on to your britches, the economy is going down like a rollercoaster. After the SpaceX and other AI company IPOs, odds are that a bubble much larger than the Dotcom iteration will explode.
You don't benefit from economic growth, but you damn sure will get fired if we have another once in a life time recession. Don't worry though, bailouts for the brave companies firings workers.
Trump doesn't give a shit about the killing, what he want is for the oil prices to go down again.
But he can only achieve that by accepting that he lost, and that's the part he doesn't like.
For Trump it's always about winning, he can't stand to look like a loser. If he can make it look like a win, and get the oil prices down, then he will accept a deal. But it's very hard to see what such a deal could be?
The killing isn't going well for him, makes him look weak. He cares. Oil prices aren't coming down before the election. One of the first things Iran's current regime on the world stage did was ratfuck a US president by pulling some shit like this. They are aware.
If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they're consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.
I wouldn't consider it a win if they get paid merely the damages caused - they did lose lives after all. But also, if true, Magastan didn't win anything.
So Obama merely released Iran's own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he's going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?
He won't be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.
No, they're cool with it, but they have to have a story that everyone sticks to, no matter how outlandish.
For example:
We need everyone to verify their age and identity on the Internet, so that children will never learn what human genitalia look like, NOT because they want to track our every move, and identify every single statement we post on the Internet.
The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn't.
This deal won't hold even if it's reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won't end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.
Don't be so sure. Trump has tipped the US's hand and shown them to be weak as piss. It's going to be pretty hard to walk back from here now since Trump has ruined all the soft power the US had around the world, and now we all know the military aren't up to the task either the US will no longer hold a position of power at the negotiating table. Trump has completely and utterly fucked the US globally.
Can you imagine Iran embarrassing the US weekly in the 1970s? They wouldn't have dared. But now most of the world is laughing with them as we watch Trump shart himself to death.
This assumes the people making these trades are gullible enough for market manipulation. Most likely they're just going along with this because it benefits them.
The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.
Iran will never accept those terms today. That ship sailed when USA attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations.
And now Iran has found out their negotiation position is way better than they thought before Israel ans USA attacked them.
Yes, this is an absolute shitshow, and USA is probably the biggest loser in all of this. Not Trump, he is raking in money on insider trading and corruption, but USA and average Americans are losing a lot of money on higher oil prices.
Haha he's so used to his deals being unknown so he probably can't accept one less than Obama's previous deal since itll be public. Hard to spin the cash they're giving them when numbers are known.
This is your bed you lay in it, unfortunately a position Trump will never accept. Mean hopefully he does for everyone else but that alone means nothing for Trump....the great deal maker, the bastion of making a deal, apparently he made an art of it or something by being the best bullshitter.
The thing I wanna know is how many israeli's are doing the Anne Frank thing with palestinian families. You know: hiding them in the basement and feeding them.
Ani said it best,
“Get our government to pull its big dick out of the sand
Of someone else's desert
Put it back in its pants
And quit the hypocritical chants of
Freedom forever”
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panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 169 pts · 77d
To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.
I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 49 pts · 77d
The US simply has to restrict weapons and money to Israel. Bush senior did it and froze a 10 billions loan
justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io · 48 pts · 77d
They already bombed Lebanon today, likely to try and derail it again.
ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl · 25 pts · 77d
Yup, was just going to comment this. Bombs right on time to try and kill any ongoing negotiations. Israel is not a friend to the US, and trump clearly has no control over the situation. Shit, trump going into this nightmare at netanyahoo's request is so on brand for the moron magats and trump.
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 77d
Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere..
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 76d
they underestimated that iran can FIGHT BACK, and they stockpiled tons of missiles, venezuela was practically defenseless.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 76d
israel/trump/benjamin has a vested interest in keeping it going. it keeps netanyahu out of jail, and trump out of the epstein files in the news.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 77d
Yeah, does anyone think Iran will stop suffering?
Eldritch@piefed.world · 15 pts · 77d
Sadly no. But having just their government to deal with, instead of being squashed starved and slaughtered between the two is a minor improvement.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 77d
I’m not even convinced USA and Israel won’t find a way to make them suffer. Both seem to love genocide.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 77d
Sorry, is there something wrong with genocide? Fucking antisemites everywhere these days.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 3 pts · 77d
All states do ultimately. Unfortunately too many states have far too many cheerleaders.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 77d
No, the people of Iran are between a rock and a hard place.
But I think people can maintain a cause in defence of themselves longer than the US can maintain their offensive.
The US just hit critically low oil levels where it’s impossible to continue depleting them. They’ve reached low enough levels using pipelines are threatened by being able to maintain pressure.
The US now has to decide if they want to lose internal oil transport and shut down infrastructure. All right before midterms.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 76d
who started and is continue this conflict: USA and israel, just to keep epstein out of the news. iran is no saint, but they arnt the aggressors in this conflict.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 76d
Agreed. And innocent Iranians will continue to suffer.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 76d
Bibi is already pummeling Beirut
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 77d
The war is won by either side only when Iran inflicts a permanent defeat on its enemies, or it ceases to be a functional state. Any deal in between, if it even goes through, will only postpone the resumption of the war, as it has been for what, about the last 45 years.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 77d
I would guess Iran is holding out to cripple the Israelis. The fact the Zios aren't just taking what they've won and going home until next time is evidence they're jot just evil, they're all fucking insane. Letting this go on once the conquest of Lebanon slows down is so fucking stupid.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -36 pts · 77d
I think you can make a lot of legitimate critiques of the Israeli state, but suggesting g they can't be trusted to hold to a treaty? No. That's just totally baseless antisemitism.
ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl · 30 pts · 77d
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 76d
Baseless, really? Israel have shown themselves to be a bunch of perfidious schmucks since the inception of their state 70 years ago. They can't be trusted to hold even a ceasefire with Palestine/Lebanon/Iran and have repeatedly attacked during negotiations.
Your cry of antisemitism has worn out at this stage through ridiculous overuse and hyperbole. The only thing Israel has shown lately is that they have no honour or morality.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 76d
Tanking any ceasefire is literally in Israel's best interest. Their goal is the elimination of Iran as a regional power. They don't want to help Trump get out of this war, they want him to fully commit to it. American boots on the ground is the best possible outcome for them.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 76d
Oh so we should just base our judgement of Israel on the thing they have done literally every single time for their entire existence and 'the protocols of the elders of zion'? But you're not an antisemite? Fucking troll.
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 75d
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say in your comment. The words are in English but they are arranged in such a way that they literally do not make sense. If you have never studied English good try, if you have your English teacher deserves a slap and you need to go back to school junior.
You also somehow attempted to shoehorn the "protocols of the elders of Zion" into your comment. I'm sure the irony will go straight over your head but I find it hilarious that you are trying to talk about a 100 year old hoax in response to me calling out your false claims of antisemitism. Your username is "ironycanal" too, perhaps you will appreciate the irony after all.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 76d
This has to be sarcasm of the deepest kind.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 90 pts · 76d
American here. I haven't heard the claims, but they're likely true if Trump is upset.
Did you guys know he raped kids?
Yeah, there's these things called the Epstein files. They're pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what's in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they're also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 75d
I heard some of those raped kids ended up dead. Some beaten. All raped. https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qtyb43/epstein_and_maxwell_buried_2_girls_strangled_to/
Court testimony was that some of them ended up beaten due to trump not liking them during sex. One bit him so he pulled her hair and punched her in the face. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/doj-releases-epstein-files-containing-sexual-assault-allegations-against-trump
2 died from "rough sex" by testimony of one worker at zoro ranch. Dug up graves were found when they looked for bodies.
Also, there were hundreds of rape victims, and about 22 have died publicly since the story broke. And trump still walks free.
TransNeko@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
they just want to make sure their victims don't have more balls than they do.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 79 pts · 77d
Damn, that's an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 76d
Art of the deal
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
For a monday
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 76d
is benny boy happy hes not getting that aid.
BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 76d
Are Americans happy they've been put in a position their leadership has to pay either instead of your hospitals? or school funding? or, god forbid, housing and food security for your multitudes of poor?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 76d
No one here has brought those up as possible alternatives. Extra money will never go to helping people here, because half the country thinks they are temporarily embarrassed royalty.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 77d
BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 76d
All American presidents are weak bitches. From Latin America and the rest of the world: fuck that entire fucking empire.
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 77d
But the tan suit
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 76d
I really don't understand why they dislike the tan suit.
It's a nice painting.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 50 pts · 77d
Pot, meet kettle.
marcos@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 77d
Acting honorably around Trump is raw stupidity. The same is doubly valid for Netanyahu.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 77d
Even the mirror is calling all sides as lacking credibility, fucking hell if that's not an indication of how fucked this whole situation is...
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 77d
lol that fuckin strait ain't opening this year, is it
say bye bye to economic growth by next month
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 77d
Iran will keep it closed until after the elections. They understand exactly how poisonous this is to Trump, and how it will affect MAGA in the election. Keeping the Strait closed hurts Trump and MAGA more than all the missiles in their arsenal, and they have to do almost nothing to maintain it for as long as they feel like it.
If Trump tries to throw a few missiles, they'll just retaliate by bombing our shitty friends (but not Saudi Arabia, never the Saudis), who will then get madder at US.
eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 76d
Why doesn't Iran attack KSA, apart from a few US bases? I thought they were the main rival in the region, and given the extent that the US and Israel have already been attacking them I don't see much risk of escalation
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 76d
They don't need to. They're winning, and widening the conflict now can only hurt them. All Iran has to do is sit tight, lob a missile at the strait every now and then, and wait for the US to fold. They've found the perfect strategy for this situation and opponent.
metermatic26@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
You guessed right my friend. If I was the supreme leader, I’d definitely try and hit at Trump’s political influence. A lame duck president would probably ensure a more lasting peace.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 76d
Here's some hopium for us all: Considering how little the average person has benefited from economic growth, that might not be so bad.
Especially if it hastens our independence from fossil fuels (which, in a sane world, events like this absolutely should).
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 76d
Haha no no, you don't understand. When there is growth the profits are privatized; when there is a collapse, the losses are socialized.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
Sounds remarkably like this cuckolding fetish I've been hearing about.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 76d
That is a wild thought. I saw something that said the top ten percent of the economy is the only sector of the economy showing any movement. Essentially that 90% of Americans have zero economic power.
Your observation kinda lines up with that. It would also make "I love the inflation" make sense. The capital class is doing good.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 76d
Hold on to your britches, the economy is going down like a rollercoaster. After the SpaceX and other AI company IPOs, odds are that a bubble much larger than the Dotcom iteration will explode.
I could do with less interesting times.
YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 76d
You don't benefit from economic growth, but you damn sure will get fired if we have another once in a life time recession. Don't worry though, bailouts for the brave companies firings workers.
silasmariner@programming.dev · 1 pts · 76d
Nah you'll just get more coal
0x0@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 76d
Cool, we can use that for a neighborhood bbq
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 76d
theres economic growth? when?
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 77d
So this technically means that Iran won, right?
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 77d
Who knows. The usa is not trustworthy
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 77d
No, its not victory, its just them getting whatever they want and us giving it to them in order to make the killing stop.
mech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 76d
That sounds a lot like a won war.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 76d
Trump doesn't give a shit about the killing, what he want is for the oil prices to go down again.
But he can only achieve that by accepting that he lost, and that's the part he doesn't like.
For Trump it's always about winning, he can't stand to look like a loser. If he can make it look like a win, and get the oil prices down, then he will accept a deal. But it's very hard to see what such a deal could be?
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 76d
The killing isn't going well for him, makes him look weak. He cares. Oil prices aren't coming down before the election. One of the first things Iran's current regime on the world stage did was ratfuck a US president by pulling some shit like this. They are aware.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 76d
If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they're consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 76d
I wouldn't consider it a win if they get paid merely the damages caused - they did lose lives after all. But also, if true, Magastan didn't win anything.
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 76d
Art of the Deal.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 76d
considering they dint have any major losess despite all those airstrikes.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 29 pts · 77d
So Obama merely released Iran's own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he's going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?
He won't be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 75d
As if his supporters needed any "rationalization".
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 74d
No, they're cool with it, but they have to have a story that everyone sticks to, no matter how outlandish.
For example:
We need everyone to verify their age and identity on the Internet, so that children will never learn what human genitalia look like, NOT because they want to track our every move, and identify every single statement we post on the Internet.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 76d
The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn't.
This deal won't hold even if it's reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won't end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.
This will go on forever, peace deal or no.
Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 76d
Until conservatives lose control of the US.
dellish@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 75d
Don't be so sure. Trump has tipped the US's hand and shown them to be weak as piss. It's going to be pretty hard to walk back from here now since Trump has ruined all the soft power the US had around the world, and now we all know the military aren't up to the task either the US will no longer hold a position of power at the negotiating table. Trump has completely and utterly fucked the US globally.
Can you imagine Iran embarrassing the US weekly in the 1970s? They wouldn't have dared. But now most of the world is laughing with them as we watch Trump shart himself to death.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 77d
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 77d
The Fart of the Meal
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 0 pts · 77d
Please get him so angry his fatty-food hardened heart finally quits
mech@feddit.org · 25 pts · 77d
According to news headlines, Trump has exploded AND melted down this week.
I wish it were true.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 77d
3.6 Roentgen.
orbitz@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 77d
One day....eyeing the nice scotch bottle
mech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 76d
eyeing the cardbord box full of empty scotch bottles
When?
Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 77d
No kidding, that fucker can't even do that right.
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 76d
Art of the deal, everyone
redsand@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 77d
Deal implodes Monday and Bessent makes a few million. Tune in next week for more market manipulation!
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 77d
This assumes the people making these trades are gullible enough for market manipulation. Most likely they're just going along with this because it benefits them.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 76d
The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 76d
Iran will never accept those terms today. That ship sailed when USA attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations.
And now Iran has found out their negotiation position is way better than they thought before Israel ans USA attacked them.
BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 76d
Art of the deal. Fucking idiot.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
It does largely appear to be their ballgame, but the US seems quite content to utterly collapse states in the Middle East lately.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
Yes, this is an absolute shitshow, and USA is probably the biggest loser in all of this. Not Trump, he is raking in money on insider trading and corruption, but USA and average Americans are losing a lot of money on higher oil prices.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
It seems it's trump putin and bibi making out like thieves in the night
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 75d
Dissonance has never been an issue for the American right, but it's going to be harder for Iran or Israel to accept that.
Floon@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 77d
SOP with Trump: lose and declare victory.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 77d
art of the deal.
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 8 pts · 77d
Iran should make him call it the “Obama best ever president peace deal”. I’d be willing to hold out for that but also I don’t buy gas.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 77d
I regret that I have but one upvote for you!!!
littlewonder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 76d
The Barrack Hussein Obama &
The Karl Marx Memorial Peace Deal
underThunder@thelemmy.club · 6 pts · 76d
orbitz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 77d
Haha he's so used to his deals being unknown so he probably can't accept one less than Obama's previous deal since itll be public. Hard to spin the cash they're giving them when numbers are known.
This is your bed you lay in it, unfortunately a position Trump will never accept. Mean hopefully he does for everyone else but that alone means nothing for Trump....the great deal maker, the bastion of making a deal, apparently he made an art of it or something by being the best bullshitter.
amniote@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 76d
The thing I wanna know is how many israeli's are doing the Anne Frank thing with palestinian families. You know: hiding them in the basement and feeding them.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 75d
Probably not too many since the Israeli army is invading its neighbours....not too many Israelis live in Lebanon , yet
TransNeko@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 76d
they only do it if the palestinian is a child. and they only do it because in israel, it's neither pedophilia or rape, to rape a palestinian child.
Padit@feddit.org · 3 pts · 76d
Bro...
TransNeko@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 76d
what? it's true. Israeli people really love raping kids as state policy. so much so that they regularly film themselves doing it.
7rokhym@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 77d
Ani said it best, “Get our government to pull its big dick out of the sand
Of someone else's desert
Put it back in its pants
And quit the hypocritical chants of
Freedom forever”