hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they're the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they're building tons of housing to handle population growth. they're financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?
Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don't want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.
tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell
it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol
If you'll notice, it's a 4 lane highway, which is medium level traffic, because most people take the train or electric scooters. In America this would be an 8 lane highway or bigger.
That's why it's important to recognize that the state serves its ruling class, which in China's case is the proletariat. That's why they are far more leniant and even allowed this situation in the first place.
It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, "We had to show them we were the boss".
From AI to A-bombs, there's nothing you can't get away with by insisting "China Bad! This will stop them!"
And not even the country's, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them
The US is not a democracy, its a one-party capitalist empire, and even its controlled opposition wing wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time. The democrats under Biden also massively increased funding to Israel to help destroy palestine:
I'd put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there's been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don't know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.
1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.
Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?
You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.
Also it's not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.
Ok so you can't win a war if it wasn't clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.
Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.
Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it's these two ideas that have taken over discourse.
Is that the person who publishes the Epoch times in Canada? Or is it the Falun gong nut cases? Someone entirely different who I havent heard of yet? Please I need to know what propaganda machine published this.
Not an idiot they are an intelligence asset. When all the evidence shows America couldn’t have and isn’t winning the war, anyone pushing the war agenda isn’t just a retard they are probably knowingly pushing the psyop. Any blue check claiming America has done anything but blunder this entire conflict probably gets paid by the CIA
China couldn't give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route's total volume.
That is why they had their own blockade.
The US didn't have a plan, lmao. Israel convinced them that Iran would fall in days or weeks. Israel is a bloodthirsty settler colonial project and Americans are removed. A match made in heaven.
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carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 127 pts · 68d
hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they're the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they're building tons of housing to handle population growth. they're financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?
no? just wars again? okay.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 52 pts · 68d
Chinese people own their homes too
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 68d
Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don't want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 31 pts · 68d
tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell
it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 67d
If you'll notice, it's a 4 lane highway, which is medium level traffic, because most people take the train or electric scooters. In America this would be an 8 lane highway or bigger.
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 68d
I've never had to use the term 'Passive-Aggressive Infrastructure' before but I'm here for it and loving it
tpyo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 68d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spite_house
Spite houses, but I like yours, too
axx@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 68d
Fascinating as it may be, that's a pretty horrible picture.
Imagine living that house. It's a pretty stark demonstration of the state gets what it wants, one way or another.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 67d
Should have taken the settlement.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 64d
That's why it's important to recognize that the state serves its ruling class, which in China's case is the proletariat. That's why they are far more leniant and even allowed this situation in the first place.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 68d
Tell that to the farmhouse in the middle of the M62.
cowboykermit@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 67d
Not quite the same as it was to do with the landscape, but one of my personal favourites:
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 68d
It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, "We had to show them we were the boss".
From AI to A-bombs, there's nothing you can't get away with by insisting "China Bad! This will stop them!"
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 68d
NaoPb@eviltoast.org · 11 pts · 68d
They can't admit the only reason has been "Money!"
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 68d
And not even the country's, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them
axx@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 68d
It's a very convenient go-to excuse. And as long as the American public keeps lapping it up, those in power will keep counting on it.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 68d
The US is basically a "this is good for bitcoin", but as a country.
Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain's.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 67d
I, for one, think it's funny.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 47 pts · 68d
China: "Wow they're a lot less tough than we thought"
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
They lost how many soldiers in that?
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 67d
I'm not sure how many US imperial troops died, but they did lose a good amount of aircraft:
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 67d
So glad that American's voted for the "No more wars" president while hoping for a better cost of living.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 67d
The US is not a democracy, its a one-party capitalist empire, and even its controlled opposition wing wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time. The democrats under Biden also massively increased funding to Israel to help destroy palestine:
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 67d
Americans could have had socialized healthcare for what they've sent to Isreal to bomb poor brown people.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 67d
No they couldn't, because they'd literally start killing citizens before they'd allow that.
BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 68d
I'd put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there's been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don't know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 68d
Buddy, I could tell you that based on the fact that they've lost every single war they've been in since WWII.
spacesatan@lazysoci.al · -6 pts · 68d
Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.
lol the downvote. Did those governments that no longer exist actually win the wars that caused them to cease existing?
*this doesn't mean they were good or justified. If anyone thinks I implied or said that you need to learn how to read.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 67d
No, but the resulting insurgency forced America out in retreat? Do you think America won't he Iraq war lmao?
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 67d
1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 67d
Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 67d
You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.
Also it's not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 67d
Uhh no, I'm saying they didn't win the war because they couldn't meet their stated goals, I wouldn't trust that country as far as I could throw it.
My bad for assuming, btw.
spacesatan@lazysoci.al · -2 pts · 67d
Do you think Saddam's government won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 67d
I think nobody won, but the US especially didn't win.
spacesatan@lazysoci.al · -1 pts · 67d
Ok so you can't win a war if it wasn't clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 67d
Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.
pticrix@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 68d
I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they're only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.
sangeteria@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 68d
Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 68d
subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 68d
Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it's these two ideas that have taken over discourse.
pticrix@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 68d
I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 67d
Really depends on the debate club, there are plenty in conservative areas that are basically just right-wing influencer spawning grounds
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 67d
Unironically many debate clubs practice and teach this
mecen@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 68d
I thing losing $400b will greatly help to put china in its place
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 68d
China and Iran are allies.
If the US and China go to war Iran will close the strait to their enemies. And we’ve seen the US is impotent to that and overly reliant on oil.
I think China just has to deal with a first strike from the US and then wait for an impotent United States to fall apart and starve.
axx@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 68d
How can people be so delusional?
"When their salary depends on it" is a decent first answer.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 67d
Whoever wrote this is an idiot.
sudo@programming.dev · 8 pts · 67d
That would be Henry Gao.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 66d
Is that the person who publishes the Epoch times in Canada? Or is it the Falun gong nut cases? Someone entirely different who I havent heard of yet? Please I need to know what propaganda machine published this.
sudo@programming.dev · 1 pts · 66d
No just some Singaporean Professor. His twitter handle is in the image. https://x.com/henrygao
Oh no his account has been suspended.
musicjunkie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
Not an idiot they are an intelligence asset. When all the evidence shows America couldn’t have and isn’t winning the war, anyone pushing the war agenda isn’t just a retard they are probably knowingly pushing the psyop. Any blue check claiming America has done anything but blunder this entire conflict probably gets paid by the CIA
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 66d
The operation you mean?
Ardha@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 67d
Yeah giving away the weakness of all our equipments iranians hurt to china is such a huge deterrant bruv
ICastFist@programming.dev · 7 pts · 68d
Remember folks, the guy is a master of the deal
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 67d
The war was a shit show by a shitty government.
Athena5898@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 66d
By a shitty country*
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 68d
And as His Orangeness has said, Ghina is expensive.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 67d
🎶We’ve only just beguuuuuun🎶
Smeef@crazypeople.online · 5 pts · 67d
LMAO
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 67d
Love your instance name
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
China couldn't give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route's total volume.
That is why they had their own blockade.
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 67d
And yet oil prices in China did not move once during the entirety of the US' bitchfit.
So...
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
So China compensated from other sources?
Used alternative energy sources?
Used reserves?
It proves only that the US plan failed.
That doesn't negate their motives
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 67d
The US didn't have a plan, lmao. Israel convinced them that Iran would fall in days or weeks. Israel is a bloodthirsty settler colonial project and Americans are removed. A match made in heaven.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 67d
naive and simplistic
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 66d
Should be tattooed on your forehead.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 67d
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 66d
Literally any news source. Here's one. But every one has wrote about how "China has confounded analysts"
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 66d
bloviate@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 67d
Oh no, not 2 summer holidays!
CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 67d
Ah yes, Henry Gao the race traitor. Heh.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 68d
So you're saying distracting Americans from the Epstein files had nothing to do with it? LOLOL
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 68d
Americans famously can't hold more than one idea at time, if Trump shit his pants tomorrow the entire investigation of Epstein is gone.
Please president, hold your shit!!!
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus · 15 pts · 68d
This but unironically.
liberals are perpetually born-yesterday.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -21 pts · 68d
Show china youre the boss by taking hong kong back and making it independent
And protecting them and taiwan
Objection@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 68d
Yeah, sometimes I feel like we should just get it over with and start global thermonuclear war for no reason too. Just end it all, you know?
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 68d
We had a good run, it's time for the mole people to have a chance.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 68d
We've got enough C.H.U.D's on the surface already, lol
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 68d
Hong Kong, the city that Britain commandeered from the Chinese?
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 68d
And returning it to British imperial rule?
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 68d
This plan is around 100 years out of date
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 68d
Rhodesia is that way → ....oops, too soon?
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 68d
Drop the cheese is not doing you well.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 64d
Why are you arguing for recolonization of Hong Kong and Taiwan?