Once asked a girl what the orange ribbon on her jacket signified. She said domestic violence. I asked for or against? Sometimes I should just not be allowed to speak.
AFAIK Autism Speaks fucking sucks. They should STFU!
Not sure what anon was actually going for. Self-identification as autistic seems pretty common on 4chan, is he tired of speaking? Trying to make a point about Autism Speaks? Just being ableist?
He's being self-deprecating for blurting out the first edgy nonsense that comes to mind, a tendency which he attributes (with good reason) to spending too much time on /b/. He may have intended his comment to be targeted at autism speaks instead of people wuth autism but to innocent bystanders that's not obvious and he's aware.
Based on my experience, a long time ago, no. Even if they self-diagnose as autistic, they also say hateful things about them, and anyone else for that matter.
They have a very outdated, paternalistic, rightwing view of autism. They mostly view it as a disease on the level of cancer that needs to be cured, versus the "neurodiversity" view that most autistic autism activists have, and they have almost no (openly) autistic people in leadership positions (in stark contrast to many other autism advocacy groups). Also held on to the "vaccines cause autism" myth for a long time.
One could argue they'll be the best. Everything would run smooth and optimized and everyone would only have to work one day a week. Cars would be replaced with trains in 2 weeks.
I do agree that it doesn't necessarily come naturally to autists, but it seems to work fine for all the autist-led autism advocacy groups. Lots of autists have substantial skill in social masking, anyway - doing it around the clock is damaging to them, but it's not like non-autistic leaders are always their fully authentic self in public, either. A good advocacy group enables, where possible, the participation of people who are directly affected.
As a prominent example for leaders of activist groups with autism, consider Greta Thunberg.
My exposure to autistic people has been very limited.
Autism is a much larger spectrum than you might have been led to believe from popular media depiction and social stigma, and you probably have met a few people in your life who had some degree of autism but you thought "they seem normal?"
As an Autist, yes. Plenty of autistic folks can and will do decent in leadership positions. Now if they like it that's a lot more variable, personally I'd probably power trip for a day get bored organize away my responsibilities and then fuck off to do literally anything else.
Mind you this mostly applies to more socially functional autsits, for example I am despite my dislike for it generally good in social situations and don't get pegged as autistic by default since my vaguely depressive Redneck aura is so strong, but there are others who will basically lock up and then either shutdown or meltdown. The funs of a spectrum syndrome, where there are no rules just guidelines.
i mean customer service very very occasionally is flirting. rarely enough that you should just assume it's not, but often enough that those people who don't get flirted with and will take any and every chance will flirt back out of desparate hope.
At one of my old jobs (which handled owning malls (I worked on the websites)), one of the locations would hold an event with Autism Speaks; during a meeting, someone mentioned that we needed to get the campaign advertisements on the site for one of their upcoming events.
At the mention of "Autism Speaks", I reflexively went, "Ew." Only dawned on me, after the fact, that it probably looked to the rest of my coworkers like I was ridiculously immature about and ablist towards autistic people.
This greentext is fake and gay! (happy pride month btw)
What really happened is that Anon misinterpreted the cashier’s facial expression because they are autistic. Upon hearing Anon‘s quirky statement, she actually replied:
“I’m deeply sorry for not directly recognizing you as the CEO of Autism®, would you like to take a look at our selection of sandbox factory building and farming simulators? We also might still have a few copies of uhhh…Sonic??”
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xkbx@startrek.website · 113 pts · 69d
I mean Autism Speaks is a pretty shit org, I really do wish they’d stop speaking at all
Dojan@pawb.social · 13 pts · 69d
Ooh, I thought that was the joke! He meant that autistic people should stop speaking altogether?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 68d
We should though
Boingboing_r@lemmy.world · 100 pts · 69d
Once asked a girl what the orange ribbon on her jacket signified. She said domestic violence. I asked for or against? Sometimes I should just not be allowed to speak.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 69d
The 'against' ribbon is orange. The 'For' ribbon is black and blue.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 46 pts · 69d
I saw a black and blue ribbon once. Everyone piled on me shouting that it is actually white and gold.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 69d
I heard Zanny.
x00z@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 69d
I thought it was red white and blue.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 5 pts · 69d
Either that or a police badge
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 69d
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 26 pts · 69d
That’s not so bad. If you want to filter out people who don’t share your dark sense of humour, it could work
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 73 pts · 69d
AFAIK Autism Speaks fucking sucks. They should STFU!
Not sure what anon was actually going for. Self-identification as autistic seems pretty common on 4chan, is he tired of speaking? Trying to make a point about Autism Speaks? Just being ableist?
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 40 pts · 69d
He's being self-deprecating for blurting out the first edgy nonsense that comes to mind, a tendency which he attributes (with good reason) to spending too much time on /b/. He may have intended his comment to be targeted at autism speaks instead of people wuth autism but to innocent bystanders that's not obvious and he's aware.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 69d
Based on my experience, a long time ago, no. Even if they self-diagnose as autistic, they also say hateful things about them, and anyone else for that matter.
xkbx@startrek.website · 10 pts · 69d
omg twinsies
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 69d
What's wrong with them? Because I have no idea about them whatsoever.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 11 pts · 69d
They have a very outdated, paternalistic, rightwing view of autism. They mostly view it as a disease on the level of cancer that needs to be cured, versus the "neurodiversity" view that most autistic autism activists have, and they have almost no (openly) autistic people in leadership positions (in stark contrast to many other autism advocacy groups). Also held on to the "vaccines cause autism" myth for a long time.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 69d
Genuine question: can an autistic person be a leader?
My exposure to autistic people has been very limited.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 69d
One could argue they'll be the best. Everything would run smooth and optimized and everyone would only have to work one day a week. Cars would be replaced with trains in 2 weeks.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 69d
I do agree that it doesn't necessarily come naturally to autists, but it seems to work fine for all the autist-led autism advocacy groups. Lots of autists have substantial skill in social masking, anyway - doing it around the clock is damaging to them, but it's not like non-autistic leaders are always their fully authentic self in public, either. A good advocacy group enables, where possible, the participation of people who are directly affected.
As a prominent example for leaders of activist groups with autism, consider Greta Thunberg.
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 69d
Greta is pretty controversial, but thank you very much for the well elaborated answer!
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 69d
Lots of people are controversial and most of them aren't openly autistic ... she certainly inspired and mobilized people.
Uruanna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 69d
Autism is a much larger spectrum than you might have been led to believe from popular media depiction and social stigma, and you probably have met a few people in your life who had some degree of autism but you thought "they seem normal?"
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 69d
As an Autist, yes. Plenty of autistic folks can and will do decent in leadership positions. Now if they like it that's a lot more variable, personally I'd probably power trip for a day get bored organize away my responsibilities and then fuck off to do literally anything else.
Mind you this mostly applies to more socially functional autsits, for example I am despite my dislike for it generally good in social situations and don't get pegged as autistic by default since my vaguely depressive Redneck aura is so strong, but there are others who will basically lock up and then either shutdown or meltdown. The funs of a spectrum syndrome, where there are no rules just guidelines.
Bassman1805@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 69d
Yes.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
genuine answer: yes. i've been in local organizations where they were and their input was valued.
OS2Warp@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 69d
HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 69d
Self-aware enough to realize he's getting checked out, 8/10... Imma press X to doubt.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 69d
I think he means she’s processing his items at the cash register
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 7 pts · 69d
Yeah, that's more plausible than my attempt, hah.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 69d
People definitely do interpret customer service as flirting though
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 3 pts · 69d
Thinking about it, I'd say the average Anon wouldn't state with confidence "she was checking me out / flirting with me".
So fuck you, your answer is clearly the better one. 😜
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
i mean customer service very very occasionally is flirting. rarely enough that you should just assume it's not, but often enough that those people who don't get flirted with and will take any and every chance will flirt back out of desparate hope.
tja@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 69d
Yes, that's the joke
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 16 pts · 69d
Eh... Not uncommon for socially awkward people to misinterpret professional friendliness as flirting.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 69d
somebody said my hair looked nice, clearly dtf
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 69d
Isn't autism speaks the one that wants to ""cure"" autism?
Fourth@mander.xyz · 16 pts · 68d
👏 bingo I'd actually rather them not speak at all as well
FiskFisk33@startrek.website · 3 pts · 68d
wtf
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 30 pts · 69d
Seriously though, fuck autismspeaks
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 69d
I'm kinda out of the loop, what did they do?
Twiglet@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 69d
Eugenics.
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 5 pts · 69d
They're a terrible organization that talks about autism as if it's a whole bunch of stuff it isn't
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 68d
...what?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 68d
But that can't be right!
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 69d
Because Elon Musk? I get it.
tomenzgg@midwest.social · 16 pts · 69d
At one of my old jobs (which handled owning malls (I worked on the websites)), one of the locations would hold an event with Autism Speaks; during a meeting, someone mentioned that we needed to get the campaign advertisements on the site for one of their upcoming events.
At the mention of "Autism Speaks", I reflexively went, "Ew." Only dawned on me, after the fact, that it probably looked to the rest of my coworkers like I was ridiculously immature about and ablist towards autistic people.
EldenLord@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 69d
This greentext is fake and gay! (happy pride month btw)
What really happened is that Anon misinterpreted the cashier’s facial expression because they are autistic. Upon hearing Anon‘s quirky statement, she actually replied:
“I’m deeply sorry for not directly recognizing you as the CEO of Autism®, would you like to take a look at our selection of sandbox factory building and farming simulators? We also might still have a few copies of uhhh…Sonic??”
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 69d
Isn't Autism Speaks that shitty org that actually does a lot of harm?