I don't know much about Russian politics, but I seem to remember reading something saying that the people in potential positions to replace him are all crazy ultracons, so probably not a lot would change. Obviously the world would be better without him in general but I'm not sure how much relief it would ultimately bring.
....the mushrooms he saw in the yard of his home, right before diving from the fifth floor window in his excitement to pick them up and being almost saved by a passer-by, helpfully trying to slow his fall by shooting a few bullets up at him
A Russian coworker once lamented that he couldn't collect mushrooms in our area since he was not familiar with them like back home. Guess it's not an unusual thing to do in Russia.
This is more of a cultural thing where you know you will get killed if you go against the leader, you know it's "bad" to even talk bad about them, and it's just accepted and you don't really criticize it... Because criticizing your government would mean getting in serious trouble. You learn this young. You accept it. You just don't do it.
That's how it was in the USSR, how it persisted under Putin, and they just believe that to be a symptom of a "strong" government. Apparently youth might be waking up a bit more in recent years, but it was like that for a long fucking time and they accept that just opening a piece of white paper in front of a building like a protester means getting carried away.
So yeah they know these people are getting killed by their government. It's just accepted. There is no question that it isn't an accident.
It's like that one video where someone goes up to a random Russian guy and asks him if he supports the war or Putin or something, and he gets quiet then says, "why talk about such things when we're surrounded by a beautiful city?" Then walks away.
lets recap: falling out of windows right after series of losses, asking for covid assistance, falling out or exploding planes, poisonous underwear, falling off of boats, bombs.
Don't forget the other poisonings, and shooting. From radioactive polonium, to nerve toxins, to we would even count pumping that concert hall full of fentanyl gas when it was taken by chechens and killing a good share if not most of the hostages, considered a great success in Russia I'm sure.
There was another with some kind of tree frog in a sweat lodge too just a few years back.
At first I read "Putin died" and I cannot even begin to describe the emotions going through me while I checked the sub name, before realizing I missed a word.
An interesting thought for sure, a thought about preparing for winter with, eh, expected uncertainty and fuel crisis started to form in my head. Like framing the balconies and additionally insulating old balcony doors and such stuff. Not even speaking about a reserve of matches, salt, sugar, canned meat and such.
If an Amanita, they are universally known amongst mushroom experts and even just foragers, never trust any white mushrooms with their look. There is a very low chance he wasn't poisoned.
"Let's see them throw me out a window now! I'll never set foot inside a building with a window ever again. I'm just going to live a simple life outdoors with my mushrooms. They're the only thing that brings me joy anymore."
He had some mushrooms and instantly shot himself in the back a couple of times before he threw himself out of the window. Totally normal, nothing to see here.
When talking about the alot of accidental poisonings, accidental drops from very high buildings, and suicides by two bullets to the back of the head, I always imagine an alot with the face of Putin.
I had to re-read it 3 times to realize that BUM wasn't meant to be an acronym (which is also a new method) or nether regions of the body, but >>!BAM!<< in their own language. We also say 'bumm', but with a long 'm'.
apparently its not a unique to a clade, but any of the related anamita deadly mushrooms that are all WHITE. phalloides, is greenish. they have some europe, but doesnt seem as common as death cap.
α-Amanitin. Amanita looks edible. Common way to die. Also a very easy cover-up if they enjoy foraging for food. A lot of species are foragable, but a lot are also deadly and hard to differentiate. Definitely sus, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy ate something similar to a death cap.
You know, I might actually try them if I know I'm going to die from something else. They completely destroy your liver and that's and excruciating death, so you want to make sure something else kills you first.
I guess hunting for mushrooms in Russia is a thing. Not that I wouldn't put this past Putin, but it's entirely possible this was just a thing that happened.
likely using DEATH cap, anamita phalloides, which very toxic to the liver and grows all over EURASIA. lemme guess hes next choice of poison is aconitum, WOLFSBANE. the plant is so toxic you can get poisoned just by touching it.
Intern: But comrade doctor, the man was obviously shot!
Comrade Doctor: Not so comrade, the mushrooms simply happened to be 9mm lead and thus he can reasonably have been said to have died of lead mushroom poisoning.
91 Comments
Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca · 238 pts · 56d
I skipped over "enemy" and got really excited for a second
0x0@infosec.pub · 42 pts · 56d
Right? Me too, haven't felt such a rush in ages even if it was short lived
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 56d
If they both die on the same day there will be much party
Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 56d
Lol, I did the same, was almost happy there for a second
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 56d
Just such relief, for a moment.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 56d
I don't know much about Russian politics, but I seem to remember reading something saying that the people in potential positions to replace him are all crazy ultracons, so probably not a lot would change. Obviously the world would be better without him in general but I'm not sure how much relief it would ultimately bring.
WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 56d
The question is whether they have the same iron grip, or if they would eventually fall
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 56d
putin also eliminates anyone, even the ultracons if he sees them as a threat.
andallthat@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 56d
Haha, I just read "Putin enemy" and it kind of gave away the ending
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 56d
You and me both, friend 😞
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 56d
Trump ₑₙₑₘᵧ dies suddenly
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 56d
Me too friend, me too.
wuffah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 56d
Oof, so close!
CluckN@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 56d
When I become a political speaker I’m going to make my hobbies piano moving, snake catching, deep sea fishing, and free climbing.
andallthat@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 56d
....the mushrooms he saw in the yard of his home, right before diving from the fifth floor window in his excitement to pick them up and being almost saved by a passer-by, helpfully trying to slow his fall by shooting a few bullets up at him
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 11 pts · 56d
All while having his hands and legs bound with rope. Making Houdini proud.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 56d
Don’t forget BASE jumping.
Damage@feddit.it · 14 pts · 56d
Tea collector
Coldcell@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 56d
High rise window cleaner.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 56d
Boiler repair on oil rigs on the weekend?
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 55d
A Russian coworker once lamented that he couldn't collect mushrooms in our area since he was not familiar with them like back home. Guess it's not an unusual thing to do in Russia.
tirateimas@lemmy.pt · 77 pts · 56d
So many "coincidences" over the years. These "accidents" always happen to his dear oppositors. Nobody knows why.
grue@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 56d
I wonder how many Putin allies have died similarly, and if there's any reporting bias about it.
Not doubting the "coincidences," but it would be interesting to validate statistically.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 17 pts · 56d
This is more of a cultural thing where you know you will get killed if you go against the leader, you know it's "bad" to even talk bad about them, and it's just accepted and you don't really criticize it... Because criticizing your government would mean getting in serious trouble. You learn this young. You accept it. You just don't do it.
That's how it was in the USSR, how it persisted under Putin, and they just believe that to be a symptom of a "strong" government. Apparently youth might be waking up a bit more in recent years, but it was like that for a long fucking time and they accept that just opening a piece of white paper in front of a building like a protester means getting carried away.
So yeah they know these people are getting killed by their government. It's just accepted. There is no question that it isn't an accident.
It's like that one video where someone goes up to a random Russian guy and asks him if he supports the war or Putin or something, and he gets quiet then says, "why talk about such things when we're surrounded by a beautiful city?" Then walks away.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 56d
lets recap: falling out of windows right after series of losses, asking for covid assistance, falling out or exploding planes, poisonous underwear, falling off of boats, bombs.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 55d
Don't forget the other poisonings, and shooting. From radioactive polonium, to nerve toxins, to we would even count pumping that concert hall full of fentanyl gas when it was taken by chechens and killing a good share if not most of the hostages, considered a great success in Russia I'm sure.
There was another with some kind of tree frog in a sweat lodge too just a few years back.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 55d
russia sure likes to try anything that has poison in it. ricin and polonium was too obvious, so its novichik for dissidents, windows for oligarches.
the_flying_pig@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 56d
At first I read "Putin died" and I cannot even begin to describe the emotions going through me while I checked the sub name, before realizing I missed a word.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 56d
Same here. Dammit.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 55d
Same
Dicska@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d
Dammit.
belochka@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 56d
An interesting thought for sure, a thought about preparing for winter with, eh, expected uncertainty and fuel crisis started to form in my head. Like framing the balconies and additionally insulating old balcony doors and such stuff. Not even speaking about a reserve of matches, salt, sugar, canned meat and such.
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 56d
Must have lived in a bungalow
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 56d
This is such a "wink, wink " to readers if I ever see one
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 55d
If an Amanita, they are universally known amongst mushroom experts and even just foragers, never trust any white mushrooms with their look. There is a very low chance he wasn't poisoned.
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 25 pts · 56d
Looks like they are running out of windows
meco03211@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 56d
"Let's see them throw me out a window now! I'll never set foot inside a building with a window ever again. I'm just going to live a simple life outdoors with my mushrooms. They're the only thing that brings me joy anymore."
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 56d
they have plenty of poisnous mushrooms, and novichik.
jestho@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 55d
He had some mushrooms and instantly shot himself in the back a couple of times before he threw himself out of the window. Totally normal, nothing to see here.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 55d
A normal day in Russia.
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz · 17 pts · 56d
I'm conflicted.
As an "enemy" of Putin, I have to assume assignation, but no windows? Russia has lots its way, are the classics no longer respected.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 56d
Maybe he died of the mushroom before or during a defenstration. it does seem out of pattern.
Cad@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 56d
He's not the first Putin enemy to die from accidental mushroom poisoning. Look up the scientist Vitaly Melnikov.
There is an interesting podcast called Sad Oligarchs that document alot of these sort of deaths in Russia.
Rednax@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 56d
When talking about the alot of accidental poisonings, accidental drops from very high buildings, and suicides by two bullets to the back of the head, I always imagine an alot with the face of Putin.
Reference, with image of standard alot: https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?m=1
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 56d
accidental heart attacks, falling from the boat, exploding planes, falling from the plane.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 4 pts · 56d
If you need an army of assassins, I'll allot a lot of alots to you.
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 56d
While falling out of a window.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 56d
After shooting themself in the back of the head 5 times
LadyButterfly@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 56d
Whilst writing a suicide note in someone else's handwriting
Xerxos@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 55d
Perhaps he lives in a single-story building, so defenestration might take some time.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 56d
His enemies have started to avoid Windows and BUM, a new method. Putin is an inventive killer. Unlike Netanyahu who just kills en masse.
Deebster@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 56d
Russia has a long, long history with poisoning, going back to at least Stalin's time.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 55d
Also Rasputin.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 55d
I think they have like a huge collection of all the world's poisons in St. Petersburg.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 55d
Which one is BUM?
Dicska@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d
I had to re-read it 3 times to realize that BUM wasn't meant to be an acronym (which is also a new method) or nether regions of the body, but >>!BAM!<< in their own language. We also say 'bumm', but with a long 'm'.
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 56d
Accidental is the keyword.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 56d
What? So, the 6th floor, toss out the window, is abandoned.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 56d
At this point I think anyone important in Russia is staying on the ground floor at all times! Bungalows only!
khaleer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 56d
they ran out of windows.
Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 56d
We had a case of death cap mushrooms in a Beef Wellington in Australia. The cook was convicted of killing her ex in-laws. Sounds familiar.
Damage@feddit.it · 6 pts · 56d
Ex in laws? That's a hell of a grudge to hold
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 56d
Yeah I remember reading that story. It was pretty fucked up.
Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 56d
Extremely. She went to a lot of trouble, killed 3 one recovered but her ex canceled. An amazing court case too.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 56d
It was followed pretty closely in the news in NZ too.
If anyone wants more reading material: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leongatha_mushroom_murders
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 56d
they were spread in the USA to, from oaks imported from europe that had the spores on them.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 55d
What about destroying angels? Are they native to europe as well?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 55d
apparently its not a unique to a clade, but any of the related anamita deadly mushrooms that are all WHITE. phalloides, is greenish. they have some europe, but doesnt seem as common as death cap.
trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 55d
Sure, "accidentally"
Etterra@discuss.online · 9 pts · 56d
"accidental"
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 9 pts · 56d
Everyone knows you should only eat the mushrooms you know and not just anything you find in the Forrest.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 55d
A mushroom expert would know that too, which is why we all think he was poisoned.
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 1 pts · 55d
I was trying to make a joke.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 56d
There wasn't any hot polonium in his area
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 55d
Did they run out of windows already?
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 56d
Lemme guess, something in the amanita family?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 55d
Oops, what a dummy!
Xanthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 56d
α-Amanitin. Amanita looks edible. Common way to die. Also a very easy cover-up if they enjoy foraging for food. A lot of species are foragable, but a lot are also deadly and hard to differentiate. Definitely sus, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy ate something similar to a death cap.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 56d
iocase@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 56d
And apparently death caps are delicious
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 56d
To die for?
iocase@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 56d
You know, I might actually try them if I know I'm going to die from something else. They completely destroy your liver and that's and excruciating death, so you want to make sure something else kills you first.
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 56d
I'd rather die by snu snu, but to each their own.
iocase@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 56d
Well that's exactly my point! You can have a succulent death cap meal and then die by the pelvis of your Amazonian lover!
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 56d
I guess hunting for mushrooms in Russia is a thing. Not that I wouldn't put this past Putin, but it's entirely possible this was just a thing that happened.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 56d
likely using DEATH cap, anamita phalloides, which very toxic to the liver and grows all over EURASIA. lemme guess hes next choice of poison is aconitum, WOLFSBANE. the plant is so toxic you can get poisoned just by touching it.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 55d
Death caps and destroying angels can be treated if you catch them in time. It's just by the time you realize it it's too late usually.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 56d
When you invite Erin Patterson around for dinner ...
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 55d
Intern: But comrade doctor, the man was obviously shot!
Comrade Doctor: Not so comrade, the mushrooms simply happened to be 9mm lead and thus he can reasonably have been said to have died of lead mushroom poisoning.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 56d
Badger badger
Substance_P@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 56d
Drusas@fedia.io · 7 pts · 56d
No one should. There is no simple rule for determining mushroom edibility, and definitely not that one.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 55d
Oyster mushrooms are great and nearly impossible to misidentify as something poisonous.