Price hikes pushing consumers to abandon their favorite brands

https://www.denver7.com/us-news/price-hikes-pushing-consumers-to-abandon-their-favorite-brands

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Maiq@piefed.social · 113 pts · 34d

Capitalism cannibalising itself one brand at a time.

breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 74 pts · 34d (1 reply)

Fuck brands. Buy less shit.

Insekticus@aussie.zone · 21 pts · 34d

Fuck pointless consumption!

NarrativeBear@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 34d (13 replies)

I honestly can't trust any brands and their packaging because of shrinkflation.

Eveytime I go into a grocery store i see packaging stay the same size but the amount inside the packages keeps getting smaller and smaller.

In the image below for example now frozen fruits come 50% less filled, and the price has gone up from the originally 600g.

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stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca · 57 pts · 34d (1 reply)

I think this may be a bad example. Different fruits are not necessarily sold in the same weights. Fresh strawberries are typically sold in heavier containers than a container of raspberries, and have been for a long time. Raspberries are just a more expensive fruit.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 32d

Exactly what I was thinking. Large strawberries are pretty uniformly cheap for me. Much less so for raspberries, blueberries, etc.

If we want to complain about the state of things fabrications make our arguments less trustworthy the moment they come out of our mouths.

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 47 pts · 34d

Uh... those are two different fruits. If you are going to compare packing to measure shrinkflation, shouldn't you be using the same product?

adespoton@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 34d (1 reply)

I’d say “That’s Loblaw’s for you” but the other day I was in Costco, and even THEIR packages have shrunk. You still have to buy a pack of 6, but it doesn’t weigh as much.

Oddly though, a 1kg bag of oats is still a 1kg bag of oats… just more expensive.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

Bob Lablaw of the Lablaw Law firm and Bob Loblow Law Blog takes issue with your hasty generalization.

brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 34d (1 reply)

Same, I usually compare the net weight and amount of servings in a package vs the other brands nowadays.

There are definitely brands I stopped buying due to shrinkflation. A few times I've seen shrinkflated items on sale later and then do the math just to realize the price is still too stupid to buy even at sale price.

justaman123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d

Fr fr

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d (3 replies)

My favorite shrinkflation is Campbell's soup, particularly their low-sodium offerings. Costs twice as much, comes in a slightly smaller can, and isn't condensed. So you pay five times as much for them to just not put so much fucking salt into their soup in the first place.

Cherry@piefed.social · 6 pts · 33d

Making soups has become a really fulfilling one of my cooking challenges I set myself. Tinkering with veg soup and getting slightly different variations each time has been a journey. Extra bonus is there’s always tons so there is always some in the freezer for days I cannot be bothered.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d (1 reply)

The one that burns me is whipped Cream Cheese - bigger container but less product in it at the same price as solid. And damn them, I prefer it with the air in it.

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

Even just regular cream cheese. It's $8 for a 12 oz. tub of Philadelphia brand but $1.50 for an 8 oz foil-wrapped blocked of the generic. For years now I've been buying the generic blocks and packing them into old Philadelphia tubs because my parents insist on the name brand. They've never said a word about it.

I'm sure you could make your own whipped cream cheese with a food processor.

Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d

Are you comparing the two package sizes? One has strawberries and one has raspberry’s….

That is like… well comparing strawberries to raspberries they are totally different… I would assume packaging and pricing would be different.

IronKrill@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 34d
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 62 pts · 33d (1 reply)

"abandon their favorite brands" is a hell of a way to rephrase "can't afford to continue eating what they have been previously". Glad to see it reframed in a way that makes the companies seem like victims.

Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 32d

Thats like when we see headlines like "gen z are destroying the alcohol industry"

hark@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 34d (15 replies)

I stopped buying cereal years before covid. A recent trip to the grocery store took me through the cereal aisle and I happened to stop to pay closer attention. The shrunken boxes and jacked up prices were very apparent. Yet another reason not to buy that unhealthy trash.

dgriffith@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 34d

Yet another reason not to buy that unhealthy trash.

ButButBut it's part of this complete breakfast!

Gestures broadly at the huge array of breakfast items on the table of which the cereal is a minor component

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 33d (8 replies)

I only buy specific cereal, and only when it is on sale, because my wife and daughter have celiacs disease and their options for "easy" food are fairly limited. Cheerios and Chex are essentially all I buy and only when they on a significant sale.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d (4 replies)

We used to buy specific cereals, then our local chain jacked up the prices 100% and started running "BOGO" Buy One Get One Free sales once every 3 months for a week - so: either pay 100% markup, or stock up during the BOGO when it hits... we quit shopping there. We do drop in a couple of times a year since then and last time I browsed the cereal aisle, not only are the prices higher than they were after the doubling, but the size of the boxes is down by 50% and more as well... good riddance.

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 32d (3 replies)

That sounds like Publix behavior, though I am sure they are not alone. I have noticed that with essentially all grocery stores even after I moved across the country and have all different stores now, so it could be the manufacturers that are driving that sales flow. Either way, I get it. I just do the "stock up during sales" thing you were referring to because my wife and daughter were a bit starved for choices of "easy foods".

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 32d (2 replies)

Around here we have Publix, Winn Dixie, and further afield there's Ingles which all seem virtually identical in their marketing / selection of products approaches. It's been decades since I've been a Food Lion or Kroger's but back then I remember they were a little more toned down - not as radical as Trader Joes or Aldi, but in that direction.

I don't want to be forced into a particular store every single week to "grab the bargains when they're avaialble" and otherwise pay doubleprice for most common items. So, I don't shop those stores.

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 32d (1 reply)

That sounds like where I used to live, so I figured the BOGO was Publix. I'm now in the midwest so no Food Lion or Kroger either, all store chains I had never heard of, but they do a lot of the same things.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 32d

they do a lot of the same things.

It works, just like marketing nasty tasting bubbly acid sugar syrup using cute polar bears at christmastime worked in the 70s. It was "the real thing" and one of the most valuable companies on the planet, based on nothing but delivery of that nasty unhealthy stuff.

I think if you unpack the roots of the BOGO, it pushes a lot of the same reward buttons as nicotine delivery death sticks.

Poop@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 32d (2 replies)

I'm not sure if you are aware, but Cheerios aren't actually gluten free. They use some crazy process to blow the gluten off of the oats with air... When I first read about it I decided I wasn't going to try them. Since then, I believe the gluten free claim was removed in Canada.

https://www.celiac.ca/439-2/

If your family doesn't have symptoms or feel ok after eating them, maybe they are comfortable with the risk.

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 32d (1 reply)

That site doesn't claim that they aren't actually gluten free. What it does claim is that the data General Mills provided has not convinced the Canadian Celiac Association that the process for verifying that that there was no cross contamination was not rigorous enough. That is good info, but starting off with "Cheerios aren’t actually gluten free" is simply not true. My family has not had any issues due to any cross contamination with them (we would know immediately), but this does make me want to cut it out as the risk is simply too high. Thanks for the heads up.

Poop@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 32d

No disagreement there at all. I should have started with the oats don't start out gluten free instead.

Personally, I do know a couple people who had reactions when they first came out. For me it was enough risk to say no to them, plus, I didn't eat Cheerios to begin with.

I just didn't trust their method of removing the gluten from the oats, it sounded like there was room for errors in the process.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 34d (4 replies)

almost ever chain i go to, nobody visits the cereal aisle ever, they know its just pure sugar in a box. they opted for the "healthier" foods. the only people that buy cereal, are people with children or is addicted to the even more sugary granola cereal.

makeshift0546@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 34d (3 replies)

You people have such a small world. There are plenty of healthy cereals. Especially if you're looking for more fiber, which isthe single largest deficiency in diet that we have in Western nations.

Y'all see one fucking reddit post and treat it like gospel 🤣

hark@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Most of the nutritional value I've seen in cereals have been through supplemental ingredients. For example, a lot of the vitamins and minerals are added in as if you crushed supplements and put them in your bowl. There are better ways of getting those nutrients, including fiber: beans, chickpeas, lentils, peanuts, flax seeds, chia seeds, various vegetables, etc. None of those require milk to be palatable and they're much cheaper than the ultra-processed cereals. When it comes to fiber, you'll want a variety, cereals largely just rely on bran.

makeshift0546@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 33d (1 reply)

ReEEEeeeEEE their diet is not as optimized as mine 🙄

Fucking nerds.

Cereal is a mostly non perishable. It's easy and predictable. Christ 🤦‍♂️

hark@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

If I were going for optimization, I wouldn't be suggesting food, I would be suggesting supplements and powders. Odd that you seem to have a problem with optimization in your first sentence, then you promote cereal because it's non-perishable, easy, and predictable, which all sound like optimizations to me. Just so you know, beans, chickpeas, and lentils all fall under those categories as well.

Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 32d (9 replies)

I have Zero brand loyalty. Best ingredients for the lowest price gets the sale.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d (3 replies)

Keep in mind that most off-brand products are literally the same brand name product in a different container.

In Canada we have a few off brand labels like No Name and Compliments. Take ketchup for example. The off-brand ketchup is literally the same brand name Heinz or French's it's sitting beside, but for $1.50 cheaper. That's because the off brand companies like Wal Mart and Loblaws pay for production cycle time at the main plants. So a run of Heinz ketchup will actually be a run of No Name ketchup. Heinz gets more money for the use of production time than they would selling that line of their own brand ketchup.

If you're brand loyal to something, you're just willing to pay more for a name, not the thing you want. Sour cream, mayo, toothpaste, even soap is all the exact same as the brand name stuff you're buying.

Most of the time you can tell where it came from by the production stamp. All companies have their own number so the no name ketchup would have the same product number stamp as the brand name one because it came from the same facility.

pahlimur@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 32d (1 reply)

The recipe is different for the store brand. I did this stuff in the dairy industry for a while. Its not production cycles in dairy, it's vats. So store brand orders a few vats of product, with way lay less actual milk or doesnt specify as high a minimum quality milk products. More dyes and filler during finishing and no aging. All store brands are essentially flavored and colored mozzarella. They are lower quality.

I still buy them though. Mozzarella is good enough for most recipes.

For other products it's similar. Lower tolerances on inputs and outputs to reduce cost. Still probably 80% as good as name brand.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d

I've worked in a few of these production lines and they're literally just changing the packaging at the end of production. The packages could be different enough to change taste or texture but the product itself is identical.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

Most store brands come from the same manufacturers as brand name products, they just change the packaging.

Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 32d (2 replies)

I have loyalty to higher prices if they treat their employees right. I'm willing to shell out an extra dollar if it means the employees aren't getting paid shit an hour

Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Sure, but most of the time in this capitalist hellscape your options are shit and slightly different colored shit.

Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 31d

Slightly different colored is a pretty big statement --- you can get the same service from a company that pays the workers $45 an hour or one that pays them $22... That's a life vs working under the thumb of a company. It's a very large difference between the good and the bad. Capitalism is everything trending towards shit inevitably, but that does not mean that every individual business is shit. It just means someday they will become shit.

Kjell@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d

My only loyalty is to brands that have higher quality than the competitors. And that only last as long as they are maintaining their quality or another brand is increasing their quality.

tamal3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

What about Uncle Sam cereal? It's gone now, bought by a big cereal company and nearly immediately shut down, but there was nothing as fibrous and un-sugared on the American cereal market as that. Oh, sigh, Uncle Sam.

I mean, I wouldn't care what brand it was if there were anything comparable. But given that it was the only one like it, I was extremely loyal.

SlowGoose6523@thelemmy.club · 28 pts · 34d

vote with your money, if a company or brand doesn't respect you or fight for your business then starve them out

betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Framing this as a customer loss is funny. Switching brands means it's the brands that are losing, geniuses.

nomy@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Pretty mind blowing to think maybe people don't need 200 variations of the same sugary grains.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 5 pts · 33d

This was the big eye opener when we ditched our near-monopoly chain grocery for a smaller competitor. Smaller stores, but they had more employees stocking the shelves and more cashiers so you waited less to get out. And in the jelly aisle they had 4 flavors instead of 84. Six kinds of cereals plus six more granolas to choose from, not an endless aisle of $8 wafer thin boxes of sugar coated puffed grains with familiar cartoon characters on the front. Five flavors of ice-cream, not 205. 20 types of yogurt, not 386. It took a little while to get used to the idea that I couldn't get my preferred brand and size of grape jelly, but after I tried their one option - organic and half the price per ounce of the chain competitors - I decided: grape jelly is grape jelly, this one is fine.

P.S. - I feared I may have been exaggerating, but the above numbers are accurate - I overestimated a little on jelly at first, but pretty much nailed the ice-cream and yogurt first try.

bigbangdangler@reddthat.com · 26 pts · 33d (10 replies)

In a world where every product sucks due to years of cost cutting and shrinkflation, brands mean very little.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 7 pts · 33d (9 replies)

In foods especially, they have substituted corn syrup for sugar, steroid+antibiotic pumped milk and meat for "real" meat (typical market chicken is a travesty these past years), GMO crops sprayed with extreme weed killers and pesticides for simple sun and water grown food. They like to say our food bills are going down in real dollars, but they're not, not if you buy organic GMO free - which is what most food used to be not so long ago.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d (1 reply)

steroid+antibiotic pumped milk and meat for “real” meat

There's a very specific reason Canada doesn't allow your dairy and meat products into Canada. I work for DFNS and our bare minimum requirements are vastly more strict than your federal requirements.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 32d

The "mouth feel" texture of chicken makes me sick these days - it's like the animal was emaciated and bloated when slaughtered, which in many ways they were.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 33d (6 replies)

corn syrup

The only reason they do this is because in the US, corn subsidies make it cheaper. HFCS is essentially exactly the same as sugar to the body. It's not any more or less unhealthy.

GMO

Another overblown fear. Humans have been modifying organisms for millennia. GMO is not inherently harmful. The main harm comes when companies try and make it so farmers have to purchase seed from them for every crap. That's not harmful to eat. That's harmful for our food supply.

extreme weed killers and pesticides

These all easily wash off, and you need to be washing your fruit and veg because they are dirty.

It's trivial to research this for yourself. Stop listening to idiots on youtube trying to sell you supplements and lying to you about these things.

There are problems and concerns, but these are not them.

switcheroo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d (3 replies)

People scared of genetically modified foods need to take a good look at vegetable and fruits. You think bananas and watermelons always looked like that? Hell, I'd say most have something going on to make them grow bigger and faster...

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d

My main objection to GMO are the ones that enable them to bathe our food crops in Roundup and similar.

Selective breeding is one thing, chemical engieering to make your food resistant to poision that kills all other plants? Sounds like something I'd rather not participate in the beta testing of, thanks.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Corn is probably the most fundamental subject example. Heh.

But yes, you are spot on of course

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d

Mexican vs US corn is a very clear example of natural farming vs industrial. I'd prefer to pay triple for corn that has diversity in its nutritional elements instead of a monocrop with maximum calories for minimum price.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

These all easily wash off, and you need to be washing your fruit and veg because they are dirty.

Keep telling yourself they wash off and have no effects. Then call me from the oncology ward.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 32d

How about you go actually look up studies? I just did and confirmed:

  1. Washing fruit/veg removes most of the residue that's there
  2. The amounts typically left do not significantly increase your cancer risk

Do whatever the hell you want, but don't pretend the science is behind you when it is not. Take your smug misinformation somewhere else.

GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 33d (1 reply)

"WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE BRANDS!!!"

and somehow it's all the Millennial's fault - Damn (40 year old) kids!

MangoCats@feddit.it · 11 pts · 33d

In the 70s it felt like brands actually meant something. Since the 90s, they haven't. Brands have milked their loyal followers for every last penny of profit while cheapening their products as much as they possibly can. Brands have become an anti-pattern for me, if a particular brand is "commanding a premium" that's a sign to me to A) dig DEEP on pre-purchase quality information and if that's hard to come by (which it usually is) B) walk away from the recognized brand name - assume it to be of inferior quality to go with its higher price.

I shopped in the same grocery store chain my grandparents and parents shopped in my whole life since the 1960s until about 8-10 years ago. At that point they started milking their brand loyalists and literally jacked our monthly food bill 2x, +100%, and that's not industry wide inflation, that's how much they inflated relative to the competition. We went from spending 90% of our food, soaps, pharmacy/drug store purchases there down to less than 5% in the first year after we quit them, and since then they now get less than 1% of our budget, only catching our purchases when they're the only store open or other cases of extreme convenience purchasing. During the pandemic, we had instantcart deliver groceries from a competitor and a $120 delivered order, including $10 tip and delivery fees, were still far less expensive than the same products from the "leading" chain.

anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 33d (2 replies)

You mean the brands that are owned by like 5 companies?

Fuck em.

CCMan1701A@startrek.website · 2 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Don't the same brands also make the store (private label) brands?

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

And I'd rather spend less on the off brand products that literally come from the same production line as the on brand products.

Zarobi@aussie.zone · 18 pts · 33d (6 replies)

I think there was a really interesting part right at the bottom that was briefly mentioned. A lot of people are using A.I. to shop now. Probably not the Lemmy demographic. But people are willing to trust the A.I. when it gives them a recommendation, even if it's for a new brand they've never heard of before. This is an unprecedented level of marketing if the numbers in the article are correct. No advertising can compete with "artificial word of mouth" directly changing a customer's opinion.

My prediction is companies will notice this, fast, and there will be incentives for A.I. to become like a new advertising platform. How much do you think Grok can charge to recommend one product over the other if it can have such a high (near 40%) lead conversion?

Tm12@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 33d (5 replies)

404 media has an interesting podcast episode on “AEO” (AI SEO) and how it can be manipulated. Apple link

gankouskhan@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 33d (3 replies)

So it's like SEO then. It's always been a scammers game. Blast sites with bot comments about your site, write slop articles that merge things that have nothing to do with what they are named for the sake of SEO, add tags, and specific words through the page. This is just an extension of the scum.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d (2 replies)

SEO started the day after the first search engine, with sysops begging other sysops to list their boards on the front page of links. It has evolved massively since then, but manipulation of AI results is just another form of SEO, and the AI results we have today are already heavily influenced by the SEOed content they were trained on and that they RAG from.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d (1 reply)

In fairness, the difference between surfacing helpful information vs. manipulating misinformation is the desire of the users for that information. If it turns out to be something they really wanted, it's a Good Thing™. If it turns out to be not something they really wanted, it's a Bad Thing™.

One of the reasons dealing with manipulation is so difficult.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d

Well, the cynical take is: if the information is being published to influence readers' / viewers' / listeners' opinions in order to enrich the publishers... then that information is much more likely to be mis-information, or distorted information as opposed to unbiased truth (whatever that is...)

I worked for a struggling little video processing company for a short while around 2012. On the floor underneath us was a big and growing company with twice our square footage and three times our headcount - their whole business: internet reputation polishing. Want to make your company, or yourself, or your dog more appealing to the general public via the internet? These manipulators would, for a fee, put good stuff about whatever you wanted as many places as possible. They would endeavor to remove or just overwhelm information that created negative impressions. Erase things you published and now regret, including copies of those things spread far and wide.

I've seen celebrity blogs (Scott Adams, among others) which shared things they were going through, then a couple of years later decide that they don't want that information "out there" anymore and it disappears from everywhere, including the internet archive and similar supposed long term repositories of "what the web used to say." Many stories about embarassing things that police officers did, like the Miami Dade cops who stopped off at Dunkin Donuts - in the County Police Helicopter - on their way back to base. That story lasted on the internet for about 10 years before it disappeared. Used to be simple to find with any search engine, now it's no longer acknowledged as ever having happened. We lived across the street from the owner/operators of the Dunkin location it happened at, they're the ones who originally told me about it, it was covered in multiple newspapers and copied into all kinds of personal blogs... now: gone.

Zarobi@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 33d
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melfie@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Not only is the shit expensive, but may as well eat a bowl of ice cream with as much sugar as a lot of cereal has. Having cereal for breakfast daily is akin to using soda for hydration. It sure tastes good, but I’ve cut down on my cereal intake for multiple reasons.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 6 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Having cereal for breakfast daily is akin to using soda for hydration.

Well, I was born in the 1960s and honey coated chocolate sugar bombs were already the cereal of choice among my kindergarten classmantes - and soda for hydration was pretty standard then too.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d (1 reply)

What people think is unhealthy or healthy changes once they start actually looking into it.

Soda? Clearly unhealthy. Juice? Milk? Clearly healthy.

Well, except that excessive carbs are a problem, and while milk and juice may have some nutrition (that you can also easily get from other sources), they have as much sugar as soda.

As a diabetic, I try not to drink calories. Milk and juice are slightly worse than regular soda. And I will occasionally have some of any of those. But occasionally, and a small amount, not a large amount.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d

Juice? Milk? Clearly healthy.

Juice better than soda? Easily, I'd say. Juice healthy? Everything in moderation. I drink far too much orange juice, and my children objected to the "high pulp" varieties I used to buy so now I don't get much fiber from it either. But, it's clearly healthier than Coca Cola - calorie for calorie.

Milk is a whole other can of worms...

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 33d (1 reply)

So true, and worse, most cereal is just carbs to begin with!

Basically your breakfast is sugar on sugars.

daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

And it doesn't take too much to correct the problem since about half of the calories (for a non-diabetic at least) should come from carbs. So get some protein and fat in there to balance, keep the total carbs in check, and enjoy some cereal if you want - as "part" of a balanced breakfast. heh.

Well, for me, I don't like breakfast foods for breakfast. I do sometimes at night, but I prefer a burger at breakfast to any breakfast items.

Your digestive system is the same all day. Eat what you like, try to make it more balanced as you can. :)

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 33d (6 replies)

Facts.

I quit drinking soda this month because the off-brand soda I like inexplicably stop being sold by every store in the area, probably due to the Iran War, and RC Cola, Pepsi, and Coke all cost the same gouged prices. I could just take the price gouging and buy them anyway, but I'd rather quit consuming it out of spite.

That it's healthier is just a side bonus.

Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 33d (1 reply)

That's actually great news. Sugar is a hell of a drug and quitting soda is a big step in less sugar consumption. I enjoy water and hot tea usually at work, but my co-workers love soda. One of them got a kidney stone and the doctor told her it's because you were drinking 5 cans of soda a day.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

Hell yeah. :)

HeyJoe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

I think the other bad part is even the no name brands have ramped up prices as well... for a bit it was pretty good, but I feel like a lot of them just ended up pricing themselves the same as they did before, which is like .50 cents less or maybe a $1 less than the main brand. At that point i say its not even worth it and either decide on just buying the name brand cause the savings is dumb or just not buy it again until they lower the price or it goes on a good sale.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I don't want to create a run on the fresh mint sections of the groceries, but you might try buying a package of mint (generally about $1.65 around here) rinsing it off and putting it (the mint, not the package) in a pitcher of water in the fridge. Zero sugar, fresh flavor, and I generally can refill a 1/2 gallon pitcher of water 6-10 times per package of mint. Toward "end of life" the mint will start to oxidize and make mint tea instead of mint water - slightly different but still nice IMO flavor, the brown coloring doesn't mean it's bad (unless it gets CocaCola dark, mine never has gone that far...)

Noobnarski@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

It's possible to go one step further and to just grow the mint yourself, mint is probably one of the easiest plants to grow.

But please just grow it in a pot and with some distance to other soil in the bottom because otherwise you will have mint everywhere and it will be very hard to remove, it will become a bad weed.

I have planted it two years ago and sometimes if I feel like it I water it and so far it's gotten pretty big from just some small plants.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d

I have planted mint here and there around the house, in what has been described as "ideal" sunlit, well drained, regularly watered conditions. So far, it isn't growing well. Now - that's the store bought nice flavored mints which, apparently, are a lot fussier. We have some mint-related weeds that crop up here and there, and they'll grow to bushes 5' high and 6' wide if you let them, but I don't like their flavors as well. But, even after letting a couple of those get really big, they're not so fearsome to just mow down and keep in check - far less annoying than things like the Camphor trees and Green Briar vines and friends... As for desirable herbs that do grow easily here: rosemary is a big one, that bush right outside the kitchen door always grows faster than we need it to.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 33d (3 replies)

Surely, more capitalism will fix this.

PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d (1 reply)

"We're losing money. People aren't buying our products anymore! What should we do?"

Shrink the size of the product and increase the cost. That will clearly be the solution!

Kjell@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

Another option is to buy the alternative product and cancel it.

pirate2377@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 32d

If only we got rid of the entire government and form an Ancapistan paradise here in America, then companies will lower their prices as the invisible hand just happens to do its thing. /j

TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 34d (1 reply)

Cereal prices killed me. I went to generics which were fine and then they got too expensive. So I learned to make my own, sugar smacks are really easy to make and taste WAY better. Plus you can tweak the recipe like I add toasted almonds in mine, local honey, etc.

Jerky was the other, bought a dehydrator and wait for skirt to be on sale. I have a clone of Wild Bills and I'm good to go.

And you can do so much more w/ a dehydrator. Veggie? You can make awesome fruit strips/etc

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d

Time to try a Victory Garden... good luck!

SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 33d
  • Brands increase prices
  • People stop buying brands
  • Brands cry foul
  • Oh no! Anyway....

The trick, William Potter, is to bleed the people just enough to satiate your parasitism without exsanguinating them, eh?

Gee, we've never seen that trick before.

vithigar@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 33d (3 replies)

I stopped buying Campbell's or any of its subsidiary brands a few years ago when they both raised prices and reduced the size of the can.

They were underhanded about it too because they made the cans slightly taller so it wasn't obvious that they had less volume.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 7 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Shrinkflators can go F themselves. That shrunken package with the same, or often higher, price is a major incentive for me to buy their competitors' products instead.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Yeah but like 99% of them do it now. There's often no alternative that isn't also shrinkflated

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 32d

Some things like Orange Juice have gone there for reasons beyond greed - though greed is still a major component.

Many things that practice shrinkflation are entirely optional in your diet...

tal@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 34d

The breaking point? A price jump of 16%.

When shoppers do make the switch, groceries are the first to go with 76% dropping a brand they were previously loyal to

I guess that's why shrinkflation is such a thing specifically with food.

Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d

I stopped buying products that went from chocolate to chocoly

Tattorack@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d

Oh no! Those poor brands!

radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d

Everything sucks these days. Every product is worse today than it was 10 years ago.

BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 34d (4 replies)

I feel like this happened years ago for me and now it's just the norm to not spring for any cereal regularly.

Cherry@piefed.social · 7 pts · 33d

So many categories. It all tastes average, is tiny and expensive. Cooking and eating with simpler ingredients and less processed stuff is actually quite freeing in a weird way.

justaman123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d (2 replies)

Yeah I buy cereal about as often as I buy ice cream. Too often

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d (1 reply)

There was an ice cream parlor near me that MIXED them!

So you could get a vanilla ice cream add coco crispies, add butterfinger bits , and drizzle it with caramel.

Or

Get a chocolate ice cream, mix it with cookie crisp, oreo bits, and marshmellow fluff.

They closed. I miss them.

justaman123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

That sounds great

lemmyng@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d (4 replies)

I find Aldi and Lidl have healthier variants of namebrand cereals.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d (3 replies)

We shop at Aldi a lot, but we also have Trader Joes and I fairly consistently prefer the Trader Joes' products to the Aldi alternatives - Aldi seems to be aiming for the absolute lowest possible cost of delivery, and when that means rotting fruit in the produce section becasue they're understaffed / undermanaged... combined with high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar in most of the processed products, lines 12 customers deep at the one open checkout, etc. it gets to be a turn-off.

lemmyng@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Hmm, yeah, Aldi stores are pretty hit or miss in terms of overall quality. I do have a Trader Joes near me that I should check out on my next shopping trip.

Would you say that Trader Joes has managed to balance affordability with quality?

MangoCats@feddit.it · 2 pts · 33d

I think so... TJs has a lot more organic products than I used to buy from our big chain, in some products Organic is the only option, but even the organics aren't as expensive as the regular versions from the big chain. The selection is limited, like Aldi - but what's on offer is generally pretty good, and generally better than similar things at Aldi. TJs does have a huge selection of candies, and much more varied options in frozen foods than most places.

eneff@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 31d

Trader Joe's is also Aldi.

US Aldi stores are operated by Aldi Süd (South) and TJs are operated by Aldi Nord (North).

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d

Hmmm, if only there was something those companies could do to retain customers. Something like lower prices without shrinking sizes?

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 34d (6 replies)

why buy brand names when generics are cheaper.

cRazi_man@europe.pub · 15 pts · 34d

It is impossible to make a good decision. There are so many brands, and information that is important is so difficult to find. I'll happily pay more for brands that focus on sustainability, avoid slave-labour-like practices, support communities, don't fund genocide, etc. But it is exhausting trying to keep up. I see it on Lemmy all the time.....a digital product I use or pay for because the last information I had was that they're good; but then there's an uproar that it was bought out or the founder supports some appalling ideology or something. Can't fucking keep up.

Matty_r@programming.dev · 7 pts · 34d

Depends. Sometimes its better to pay more for a better quality brand because it'll last longer - therefore costing less in the long run. Shoes/boots are a good example of this. Obviously if its more expensive that doesn't mean it'll be automatically be better though.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 4 pts · 34d

Because of ingredients? I check ingredients first, origin second and price third.

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I dont want major brands, but I am not buying generic crap either.

I am never going to eat something simply because its "the cheapest".

JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I don't know if it's different where you are, but here in Finland the generics (in store brands) are actually quite often made by the same big local brands, but depending on your food label laws it can be impossible to determine. Here they need to tell the country and actual manufacturer in the packaging making it easy.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 33d

they tell that too in us, some of them like arrowhead, and you see store brand one, its made by the exact same company.

GutterRat42@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I would abandon the brands I currently use, but Great Value is as cheap as it gets

daychilde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

That's the real problem here. You can only go cheaper brands once.

There's other ways to tighten the belt - cheaper cuts of meat, more meatless meals, fewer veggies that tend to be a little pricey for the calories (nevermind great for nutrients) and more rice-and-beans that are cheaper calories.

There's plenty of room for a downward spiral… but what about those already lower down on that spiral who already had to make those choices? They definitely will reach food insecurity quicker.

Bruncvik@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I can't think of any food or drink (save for alcohol, but I cut down to one drink per week) that I'd buy because of the brand. The majority of what I'm buying is from store private labels. Living in Europe, however, I do pay close attention to country of origin, and try to buy as close to home as possible.

exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 33d

I am loyal to certain cheese producers, from local small scale producers to national artisan producers that ship to me, to national larger scale cheese makers who have specific products I like. I'll buy certain imported cheeses with place protections, like Italian DOP cheeses.

With chicken, I like a particular producer, because the chicken just tastes better to me when it's air chilled and of a specific size (4 lbs/1.8 kg is the ideal size).

For flour, I use a combination of a local mill for whole wheat, and a reputable national producer for bread flour and all purpose white flour. I have a specific brand for 00 pizza flour. I know what to expect from those products, and that allows me to be precise.

For pasta, I have several brands and shapes to choose from, and can obviously do fine with whatever box, but I still have my preferences for specific shapes and brands and bronze-die lines. Some of them are imported and some are domestic.

Condiments and sauces? Yeah, I have a preferred ketchup brand, 3 specific soy sauces for different applications, 3 specific mustard brands for different applications, and a preferred mayonnaise. I keep about 5-10 hot sauces on hand, each for a different style of food.

As you mention, for wine and beer and liquor and liqueurs, I am fairly picky when it comes to brands and quality. Life is too short to drink bad alcohol.

But it also pretty much extends to non alcoholic beverages, too. I choose my coffee and go for specific roasts by specific roasters. I like a particular brand of soda. I even have a preferred brand of orange juice.

For chips and snacks, I very much prefer specific flavors of specific brands, including even the biggest of the industrialized brands for certain products.

With chocolate? Yeah, brand matters to me a lot. Most other candy, too.

I have a preferred butter brand. I can make do with others, but I prefer mine. There are only two bacon brands I like. I have a hot dog brand preference, too.

I'm pretty serious about food, and I love blind tasting things and forming preferences around new foods, revisiting old taste tests, etc. I couldn't imagine not caring about the details on food, and that often means knowing the difference between brands (and knowing when a brand has changed its formula/recipe).

People out there are doing good work, making delicious food. Sometimes they put their name on it, and that means something.

Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 33d

Remember when the Kellogg's CEO told everyone that's poor to just eat more cereal? And then tried to bust the union?

deddit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d

This article felt a bit like AI click bait. Seems like they were really more interested in talking about AI and providing a link to [redacted]'s AI site. When writing an article about price hikes, why would you take a quote from a CEO pitching his AI site? Why not talk to actual consumers or even better yet CEO's of companies that are gouging us, or companies that are providing lower priced items. And what about stores, nothing said about them yet they are not innocent in this, nothing about them in the article.

TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Wait until you can’t buy physical games anymore.

ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

Jan 2028 PlayStation is going to stop physical games. So you don’t have to wait too long.

Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d

Quite a few years ago.

nevyn@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 33d
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NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 33d (7 replies)

The one brand that I am seeing rise in price for me is Spindrift.

I was just thinking the other day that their business model has got to be a lot more supply chain and energy dependent than many of the "fizzy waters".

For those who don't know, its a low calorie soda because its simply real juice in small quantities as the flavoring.

So they must have to source fresh fruits, then extract them, then pasteurize everything, and only then make the soda.

I don't drink a lot of it, but its about the only soda I am willing to give the kids.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 4 pts · 33d

Clue: products' retail prices have almost NOTHING to do with what they cost to produce and deliver and sell to you. It's almost entirely about what people are willing to pay.

A lot of people are willing to pay more for a product they perceive as more expensive to produce, but that perception is often far from the truth.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 33d (4 replies)

I drink Waterloo. Just water and a little natural flavoring. No sugar, salt, or calories, and it's much cheaper than Spindrift. I love the Peach best.

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 33d (3 replies)

Yeah, its ok. I always wonder what is "natural flavoring?" that can mean nearly anything.

At least waterloo claims that they are extracts. Which is nice.

I really like that spindrift actually tastes like the flavoring because it is the flavoring. Its worth more to me.

Either way, my post was about how many ways they are going to be effected by rising costs.

MangoCats@feddit.it · 1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

can mean nearly anything.

Yep. Extract of cat urine is 100% natural.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 31d

Which would be great if I was looking cat urine flavored fizzy water.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 31d

Waterloo has a natural taste, whatever that means. It tastes real. I've tried others, and they often don't taste right, usually a chemical taste. I haven't tried Spindrift yet.

isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 33d

Some searching suggests Spindrift is from 3-12% actual fruit juice. So let's say 1 oz of juice in a 12 oz can. Simply Orange is a brand of premium orange juice. It costs about 10 cents per ounce. And that's a premium product sold in its own packaging. In reality, you're talking less than a nickle of juice in each can.

7101334@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

I don't know man I just eat whatever Grocery Outlet allows me to

The few brands I've stopped buying were because they do business in Pissrael

SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 32d

I abandoned many brands many years ago. They provide me nothing of value so I don't give them my money.

Bwaz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

I abandoned those type brands decades ago. Advertise on TV? You're off the purchase list