China is building 75 solar parks in Cuba, and the island’s power crisis is becoming an infrastructure experiment
https://www.vozpopuli.com/indux/en/china-is-building-75-solar-parks-in-cuba-and-the-islands-power-crisis-is-becoming-an-infrastructure-experiment/6699/
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G_M0N3Y_2503@lemmy.zip · 76 pts · 54d
I didn't know until recently that the US had such an effective blockade, so enemies of the US are Cuba's only hope, this is great to see.
https://youtu.be/5Dvu7qiM5rg
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 53d
If you want to work for a major American corporation outside of the US (e.g., in the EU), you may run into trouble if you've ever been to Cuba (or a few other so-called terror states).
What are they worried about? There's no reason to go that far, other than ensuring deaths of as many Cubans as possible, and the eventual collapse of the entire country.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · -41 pts · 53d
Another 9/11
rapchee@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 53d
in your world did cuba or a communist or even a leftist did 9-11? in mine it was a cia trained saudi arabian guy
ContactClosure@lemmus.org · 23 pts · 53d
It should hurt to be this dumb.
tpyo@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 53d
I'd love to know what your cuba attacks america fantasy is
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 53d
Hahahahaha
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 53d
One can dream...
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 52 pts · 53d
Fuck yeah.
Imagine if america built solar panels instead of bomb negotiation. But the american admin seems hell bent in making the worst choices. Good on china for showing how to do international policy.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 53d
The US is going all in on the doomed oil and coal economy, and going to continue to use the pursuit of oil as a cause for war, until its too weak to do so. Meanwhile the PRC and countries allied to it are transitioning to the green energy future: solar, wind, nuclear fission and fusion.
The long-term trend will be that the countries that are able to harness more energy, will outpace those that don't. So soon it'll be the US and Europe playing catchup to Asia, Africa, and Latin America.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 53d
bridgeburner@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 52d
Don't lump Europe together with the US. We are open to renewables and continuously expand them. Which does not apply to the US.
scholar@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 52d
China isn't exactly transitioning, they added 78GW of new coal power plants last year and are building more this year. They installed massive amounts of solar as well because it's cheap and they need massive amounts of power.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 52d
Yes they are. The proportion of clean to unclean energy is vastly increasing : https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/china/ . There is a green energy revolution for the past few decades.
Also compared to the world average, the PRC is at 42% clean to the world average of 43%, while the US is at 9%. See the article I posted below.
2001 - 2025:
scholar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
That's by percentage, if you look at absolute generation it looks more like this:
Coal is a smaller percentage of the total mix than in 2000 because they basically weren't using solar or wind at all back then. They are still increasing their consumption of coal in absolute figures by a significant amount.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 52d
Percentage / proportion over time is more pertinent for the term "transitioning" than absolute levels.
scholar@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 52d
Solar and Wind started at 0.06% in 2001. That was 0.75TWh. In 2025 they made 21.83% with 2310.4TWh. That's a lot of electricity and explains why the other generation methods have gone down proportionally. This doesn't indicate a transition because the total generation has massively risen too. Hydro over the same period grew from 277.43TWh to 1397.06TWh, but by percentage dropped from 18.74% to 13.2% - I don't think anyone would argue that China is transitioning away from hydro.
For a transition to occur we would need to see a plateau and reduction in coal generation, not a 5x increase.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 53d
It's not. The U.S. adds approximately 40 GW of new renewable energy capacity per year, with 27 GW of that in solar and 6 GW in Wind. Over 90% of newly added grid capacity is green, largely thanks to the speed and scale of clean energy expansion relative to alternatives.
Where the US sucks is in retiring older facilities in order to cut emissions over time. We're just producing an enormous energy glut. The carbon we emit is plateauing, but it's never going to decline on these terms.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 53d
From what I could find, the US has a miniscule amount of green energy, and its not increasing in proportion to fossil fuels like natural gas: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=62444
According to EIA data, the US is currently only ~9% clean energy sources, and 91% fossil fuels.
This is way behind the world average for clean energy, which is 43%, and the PRC's which is 42% despite producing most of the consumer goods for the whole world.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 53d
...
:-/
Faithless@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 52d
Don’t put Europe in the same sentence as trumpistan please. Wildy incorrect
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 53d
thanksforreading@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 53d
The EU should be taking notes
tigermountain@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 53d
I wouldn't be surprised if China might also be supplying weapons to Cuba.
What's up with the down votes? I'm hoping they're armed to the teeth if the US tries any shit.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 53d
sure hope so
rapchee@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 53d
so that the usa has an excuse to invade?
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 53d
US needs an excuse to invade countries ? since when ?
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 53d
The US is going to invade regardless, lol.
no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev · 32 pts · 53d
Hopefully enough weapons to scare US of Fucking A shit its pants.
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 52d
There's no weapons.
TiredTiger@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 53d
I hope so. If they'd been able to keep the missiles the Soviets had stationed there, they wouldn't be in this mess.
PotatoPie@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 53d
I hope they do so much, they had it so hard
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 53d
hopefully china gives enough weapons to cripple the US energy production , when US eventually invades Cuba
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 53d
Fingers crossed they do
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 53d
Here's hoping right
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -21 pts · 54d
That's based. But didn't Cuba basically rescind their Communist policies recently because of a lack of international support and the US sanctions having crippled the country
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 54d
They did no such thing.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -22 pts · 54d
They sure did. https://youtu.be/n7dvICgJYuI?t=4m17s
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 54d
Next you'll be telling me that China and Vietnam abandoned socialism because they use markets.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip · -12 pts · 53d
No, but because most money, gdp (3/4), companies and work (80%) etc is fully privately owned with no state ownership at all, because the workers rights are not improving (gig economy booming, retirement going up, vacation being 5 days per decade of work experience, no practical sick leave, the second employment system), because giant companies are slapped on the wrist for transgression and personal C-levels punishments for shit they do like Pinduoduo
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 53d
please stop smoking crack, it's not good for you https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/chinas-private-sector-has-lost-ground-state-sector-has-gained-share-among
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 53d
You do know those are not the same? Its literally like saying that USA citizens live good life because S&P is over 50k.
Edit: and if you don't believe me about gdp, here you have PRC press release from 3 years ago about Privately owned enterprises (POE means no government shares) http://english.scio.gov.cn/m/pressroom/2022-06/29/content_78295756.htm , ans here you have Daecheng Institute listing pure State Owned Enterperprise GDP https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/720545740 at below 30%.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 53d
Go read up on the concept of the commanding heights of the economy. Not to mention the fact that the party owns the golden share in all major companies, and has members on the board. You could watch an explanation of how the economy in China actually works here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E89qUXTX-k
Or even better, actually read a book https://redletterspp.com/products/the-east-is-still-red or two https://1804books.com/products/chinas-great-road would be a new experience for you.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 53d
My polish nationalist friend we meet again. Here you once again remain pushing falsehoods.
Gig economy being actively cracked down on and regulated to the benefit of workers:
https://hrss.suzhou.gov.cn/jsszhrss/zxfgk/202405/9acd0c4465e24bfeab20419cab150233.shtml
https://ldjy.xizang.gov.cn/xwzx/cjyfzzc/202402/t20240226_404989.html
https://ipc.court.gov.cn/zh-cn/news/view-2849.html
https://www.court.gov.cn/zixun/xiangqing/450651.html
https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c100013/c5241790/content.html
https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/%E4%BA%BA%E7%A4%BE%E9%83%A8%E7%AD%89%E5%85%AD%E9%83%A8%E9%97%A8%E9%83%A8%E7%BD%B2%E5%8A%A0%E5%BC%BA%E6%96%B0%E5%B0%B1%E4%B8%9A%E5%BD%A2%E6%80%81%E5%8A%B3%E5%8A%A8%E7%BA%A0%E7%BA%B7%E4%B8%80%E7%AB%99/
https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2024-11-13/418523.shtml
https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20260426/7f994e10f9f14810b899795970007a30/c.html
Misleading. Retirement age is being raised gradually over 15 years, while flexible early retirement up to 3 years early remains, delayed retirement requires agreement, special early-retirement protections are retained for hazardous/special work, and older-worker protections are being strengthened. Also, raising retirement from 50 to 55 for women and 60 to 63 for men over a period of 15 years, while life expectancy continues to rise and early-retirement options remain, is not the anti-worker gotcha you seem to think it is.
https://www.spp.gov.cn/spp/tt/202409/t20240913_666042.shtml
https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/%E3%80%8A%E5%AE%9E%E6%96%BD%E5%BC%B9%E6%80%A7%E9%80%80%E4%BC%91%E5%88%B6%E5%BA%A6%E6%9A%82%E8%A1%8C%E5%8A%9E%E6%B3%95%E3%80%8B%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83/
https://big5.www.gov.cn/gate/big5/www.gov.cn/zhengce/202409/content_6974508.htm
https://english.scio.gov.cn/chinavoices/2025-01/02/content_117641102.html
Misleading again. While it is true that paid annual leave is 5 days after 1-10 years, 10 days after 10-20 years, and 15 days after 20+ years, public holidays and rest days do not count against annual leave. This adds 13 days of leave off the bat. A more accurat set of numbers would be 18, 23, 28 which is an entirely reasonable amount of leave. (Plus a few extra for minority groups to celebrate our major holidays).
https://publicservices.hrss.tj.gov.cn/ecdomain/framework/zcydt/fbbafimfopkibboikmfajfanojgaanpa/fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa.do?disp_template=ccnjmfhhefpibbodjemcncephdmpjlhn&fileid=1092&isfloat=1&kbms=1&moduleIDPage=fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa&siteIDPage=zcydt
https://xzfg.moj.gov.cn/front/law/detail?LawID=1737
The 2025 consumption-boost plan also explicitly calls for strict implementation of paid annual leave, making paid annual leave enforcement a focus of supervision, protecting rest rights, and prohibiting illegal extension of working hours:
https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20250316/12731c57b4e547f99c55606d9950bebd/c.html
False. China has a statutory medical-treatment period for illness or non-work injury of 3 to 24 months depending on working years and years with the employer. During that period, sick-pay/disease-relief pay must be paid and cannot be below 80% of the local minimum wage. Employers also cannot simply dismiss workers during the prescribed medical period.
https://rsj.gz.gov.cn/zmhd/cjwt/ldbz/content/post_10319021.html
https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2021-06-10/309418.shtml
https://www.gjxfj.gov.cn/gjxfj/xxgk/fgwj/flfg/webinfo/2016/03/1460585589931971.htm
davel@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 53d
That sounds more like Worst Korea than China or Vietnam.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -13 pts · 54d
The Cuban social system is not being abandoned because they wanted to but because the US successfully imposed it on Cuba.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 54d
Cuban social system isn't being abandoned period. Please stop spreading ultra nonsense on here.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -6 pts · 53d
What do you even think the word ultra means?
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 53d
The word ultra is used to refer to idealist leftists who are divorced from the real world and can't understand the concept of having to make compromises. It's the people Lenin wrote this book for, specifically this chapter https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch08.htm
KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 53d
https://socialistchina.org/2026/06/25/cubas-economic-reforms-and-the-prospects-for-socialist-renewal/
Please stop spreading ultra nonsense
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 53d
This reminded me of that cope article of when China passed the Gaza genocide approval resolution and whaddayaknow
https://socialistchina.org/2025/11/19/china-explains-its-abstention-in-un-gaza-vote/
KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 52d
The only cope I see is yours tbh
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 52d
Comparing their opinions on that matter shows me all I need to know.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 54d
It had to be a BadEmpanada video of course. His entire channel is dedicated to attacking other leftists for not being perfect platonic ideals of communism as he understands it. He would accuse Karl Marx of being a liberal if he lived in the same time period.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -11 pts · 53d
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 53d
BE is a twitter-poisoned ultraleft who denounces every socialist country : China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. He has no materialist understanding of socialism and isn't to be trusted on any topic just because he correctly opposes Israel.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -6 pts · 53d
Crazy guy he doesn't like Graham Platner with Nazi tattooos murdering kids and DSA members who compromise with genocide.
And he doesn't think every single thing China or Russia does is good and thinks people should have more international solidarity. Craziest guy on the planet. Absolutely insane.
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 53d
Being anti-Israel and not apologizing for murderous imperialists like Platner is an extremely low bar (one that much of the compatible left in imperialist countries don't clear, but still). I don't recommend getting your politics from youtubers or streamers, but from actual Marxists / MLs. There are plenty out there doing great work, writing and organizing, who don't spend all their time getting in pointless fights on twitter, and denouncing every socialist project.
davel@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 54d
Yet more examples of splitting. In the span of weeks, BE was promoted to golden god of truth & righteousness, and Cuba demoted to capitalist pigs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealization_and_devaluation
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -10 pts · 53d
Of course it's adhominems. Are you going to keep defending the Serbs too? https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-finds-new-breakaway-allies-bosnias-serbs
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 53d
Bad Empanada is fucking embarrassing 💀
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 53d
Adhom #25
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 53d
I can't tell if this video itself or your uncritically posting it is the bigger "oof" moment.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 53d
You should listen to this podcast episode which argues that Cuba did not, in fact, "rescind its communist policies", and that Cuba has long been navigating the constraints of the blockade in various ways, for decades
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 53d
Wow I just listened to a two hour podcast of three people doing ZERO mentions of how China and Russia are dropping the ball on international solidarity because apparently that doesn't exist. Apparently the USSR disappeared and now Cuba just has nobody to count on well gee that sucks. Gotta implement capitalist policies now!
Am I glad I don't listen to these Grahan Platner fans often. BadEmpanada doesn't care about pissing off some of his audience. These guys are farming.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 52d
Is this your only insult? Are you stupid? Do you think an iraqi Communist has any positive things to say about Graham fucking Platner?
Log off, lmao
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 51d
Yugopnik has another podcast with massive Graham Platner fan MikeFromPA in which they conveniently never talk about Graham Platner.
Oh how nice of everyone to dance around the Nazi bar. Wouldn't want to rock the Nazi boat!
Guess who did call it out.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -22 pts · 54d
And what do they get in return for this?
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 54d
To weaken/further humiliate the US? To market their green technology? For humanitarian purposes?
Take your pick, it’s some combination of the three.
TiredTiger@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 53d
It's definitely all three, but I just want to point out that Cuba I believe has more doctors per capita than any other country and sends medical aid all over the world. They developed their own Covid vaccine because they had no access to the others thanks to the blockade. It's not like they have nothing to offer.
SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 53d
China, there's this people in Middle East... Hello?
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 53d
Isolating the usa
ValarieLenin@midwest.social · 16 pts · 53d
Cubans have great cigars. 💨
PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 53d
Rum, too.
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 53d
money or resources i guess ? thats how it usually goes but im not an expert
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 53d
Infrastructure and a better chance of surviving the current situation
Casuls_Die_Thrice@lemmy.zip · -32 pts · 54d
More like 75 MSS SIGINT transceivers.
davel@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 54d
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 53d
Thank you for the new profile picture, lol
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 54d
I mean…. Even if that IS true (which like lol)…. Who gives a shit? I would rather be spied on then fucking dead?
_lunar@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 54d