My internal ChatGPT is so advanced that it activates without me prompting it first. It'll just randomly be like, "I want a sandwich." How did it know I was hungry?!
I did a stint in an inpatient mental facility, and one of the other people there was suffering from voices in her head and kept a notebook full of some of the things they said. I asked if I could take a look and it was just...thoughts. Like, normal thoughts that I had assumed everyone had.
::: spoiler I have the same thing (Long Description)
It's just really quiet I guess, but it's normal to me. I only first thought about it as being different when someone told me their inner voice was being mean to them and wouldn't shut up, which just completely baffled me. It led to my discovery that others actually really do have voices in their head, it's not a metaphor or mental illness like I previously thought from TV.
I think it's fundamentally similar to everyone else's experience though. If I relax my brain, it will cycle through thoughts and memories as a train of thought, but there's no sound or visuals. To me I just get the emotions and the concept. Using the famous apple example, I remember the experience of holding and eating an apple, the taste, smell, texture, shape, weight, physics, geometry, the emotions of eating it, it's all there, but I feel it rather than see it.
Benefits
I'm really good at programming, maths, physics, science, that kind of thing, because I can "feel" the rules and intuitively solve things without even thinking about it logically. I tend to notice things other people miss just because they feel out of place, with almost nothing to go on. An example would be if I'm given an error message, I don't even have to debug to find the problem, because it feels like the bug is over there in that function. I'm usually correct, but I can't explain how I got there, which made school... difficult haha.
Sometimes I like to just sit down and close my eyes, and think about the concept of nothing, and just have a completely blank mind for a while. It's really relaxing and restful, and it feels like time goes by 10x faster. It's probably some kind of meditation but I don't know the names of stuff like that. I've been told I'm very patient and calm.
Downsides
I'm extremely bad at learning second-hand. Either by reading or being shown or talked to. The only way I can ever learn anything is if I experience it first-hand, which made university... difficult haha. Jump in completely unprepared and fuck up kind of learner.
Visual descriptions in books are boring to me for obvious reasons. I skip those parts completely and only read the social and action parts. Poetry makes no sense at all to me, except haikus and rhymes. I get lost very frequently, and I struggle with visual logic puzzles. I struggle to remember the name of colours and distinguish them, but I have no colour blindness at all.
I'm extremely bad at explaining and describing things to other people, and also struggle to understand others' explanations. When people are talking to me in a conversation, I don't remember the exact words they said, only the emotional gist and meaning. When I'm talking to someone, I can't really plan ahead what I'm going to say, and I can't remember what I've already said, so if I'm interrupted at all I have to start again like a broken NPC in a video game. People get really frustrated with me, but I can't really blame them lol
Drawing pictures is extremely challenging, I have to do it "mathematically" by ratio. Like ok the hair goes down 60% of their face, the curvature of their jaw it's like almost straight, and angles more aggressively about half way to mildly curved then their chin comes out of nowhere at 80% to the bottom... I have no talent at all for drawing, it's crazy hard for me, but I still do it anyway for fun. People are like just practice and you'll improve! There's no amount practice to replace something that's completely missing haha
Anyway, proud of you if you actually read all that wild ride
Probably about the same. Only realized at some point cause I was complaining about how a teacher always had us close our eyes and imagine shit. I was like tf are we doing this for when it doesn't do anything. And I got confused looks and somebody asked if I could see pictures in my head. I thought they were screwing with me and lo and behold most people can actually see things in their head similar to dreams.
Similar thing went down for the internal monolog. I believe I sort of complained offhand how movies/shows always depict people thinking as them just talking but how there wasn't exactly a better way to do it. Friend laughed and said something like "Well and obviously that's how people think too". Wouldn't have thought he was screwing with me if he wasn't constantly making things up lmao
I'm not OP, but I also don't have an internal monologue (and I don't dream, but I can construct images in my head "on demand"). I was in my late 20s before I realized that an internal monologue was not a literary device used by authors when telling a story - and people have an internal voice.
Think of it this way: unless something is causing sound externally there is absolute silence. It's peaceful sure, but your aware of all the little noises of things around you. One thing that can be hellish is getting a song stuck in your head ( I know several 3/4 and 5/4 melodies for just this reason).
The numbers have become a little more accurate now with a load more research and wider groups being tested, where the people that have zero internal monologue at all (everything is conceptual, none of it is done via segments of their consciousness using words at all) is only about 5-8%
This bothers me so much, my coworker constantly refers to Claude as "he" even when I remind him that's a bad idea for long term, to either call it "it" or Claude. But nope even in front of the CEO it's all "I was just working with him and gosh he makes everything so great blah blah blah, he frustrates me sometimes blah blah"
I think my coworker will be on the short path for ai psychosis
61 Comments
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 127 pts · 41d
mf rediscovering thinking
leo85811nardo@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 41d
It's not feature complete if you can't configure the thinking effort
Wiz@midwest.social · 8 pts · 40d
Yes but, how many tokens did they use?
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 41d
More like imagination
yggstyle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
Just wait until they discover an inner monologue...
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 29d
Except worse
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 67 pts · 41d
Satire, or autism… satire or autism…. Hmmmmmm
rumba@lemmy.zip · 54 pts · 41d
He just figured out the rubber ducky method for problem-solving.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 41 pts · 41d
Autistic people can produce some of the best types of satire. So i am saying both.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 41d
Don't insult autists like that
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 41d
This hit me the same as “don’t talk shit about midgets!”
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 41d
It's impossible to tell
Blubber28@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 41d
It makes sense that a regular chatGPT user is unfamilliar with the concept of "thinking"
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 41d
Thing is people have different ways of thinking, not all of them verbal. Might've switched over.
Blubber28@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
Eh fair enough. That is also a possibility.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 41d
GenAI user discovers thinking, has first ever thoughts in their life.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 40 pts · 41d
My internal ChatGPT is so advanced that it activates without me prompting it first. It'll just randomly be like, "I want a sandwich." How did it know I was hungry?!
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 40d
Ah, running a background agent, I see
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 39 pts · 41d
AI psychosis is starting to look like normal psychosis.
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 9 pts · 40d
Were they ever different, ultimately?
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 22d
Ah yes, cyber psychosis
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 38 pts · 41d
I've tried it, but my mind keeps telling me I need to upgrade my plan.
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 41d
Some people don’t have an internal monologue, I can’t find the original source but stuff on the internet say 30-50%.
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 16 pts · 41d
I did a stint in an inpatient mental facility, and one of the other people there was suffering from voices in her head and kept a notebook full of some of the things they said. I asked if I could take a look and it was just...thoughts. Like, normal thoughts that I had assumed everyone had.
Gregers@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 41d
Only time it's annoying is when my thoughts are angry and in aramaic, but at least I know it's just normal thoughts. Lmao
Traister101@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 41d
Yeah. I've got Aphantasia and no internal monolog
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 41d
I cant work out if thats brilliant or terrifying.
I wish I could have a ride in your brain and see what its actually like.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 40d
::: spoiler I have the same thing (Long Description)
It's just really quiet I guess, but it's normal to me. I only first thought about it as being different when someone told me their inner voice was being mean to them and wouldn't shut up, which just completely baffled me. It led to my discovery that others actually really do have voices in their head, it's not a metaphor or mental illness like I previously thought from TV.
I think it's fundamentally similar to everyone else's experience though. If I relax my brain, it will cycle through thoughts and memories as a train of thought, but there's no sound or visuals. To me I just get the emotions and the concept. Using the famous apple example, I remember the experience of holding and eating an apple, the taste, smell, texture, shape, weight, physics, geometry, the emotions of eating it, it's all there, but I feel it rather than see it.
Benefits
I'm really good at programming, maths, physics, science, that kind of thing, because I can "feel" the rules and intuitively solve things without even thinking about it logically. I tend to notice things other people miss just because they feel out of place, with almost nothing to go on. An example would be if I'm given an error message, I don't even have to debug to find the problem, because it feels like the bug is over there in that function. I'm usually correct, but I can't explain how I got there, which made school... difficult haha.
Sometimes I like to just sit down and close my eyes, and think about the concept of nothing, and just have a completely blank mind for a while. It's really relaxing and restful, and it feels like time goes by 10x faster. It's probably some kind of meditation but I don't know the names of stuff like that. I've been told I'm very patient and calm.
Downsides
I'm extremely bad at learning second-hand. Either by reading or being shown or talked to. The only way I can ever learn anything is if I experience it first-hand, which made university... difficult haha. Jump in completely unprepared and fuck up kind of learner.
Visual descriptions in books are boring to me for obvious reasons. I skip those parts completely and only read the social and action parts. Poetry makes no sense at all to me, except haikus and rhymes. I get lost very frequently, and I struggle with visual logic puzzles. I struggle to remember the name of colours and distinguish them, but I have no colour blindness at all.
I'm extremely bad at explaining and describing things to other people, and also struggle to understand others' explanations. When people are talking to me in a conversation, I don't remember the exact words they said, only the emotional gist and meaning. When I'm talking to someone, I can't really plan ahead what I'm going to say, and I can't remember what I've already said, so if I'm interrupted at all I have to start again like a broken NPC in a video game. People get really frustrated with me, but I can't really blame them lol
Drawing pictures is extremely challenging, I have to do it "mathematically" by ratio. Like ok the hair goes down 60% of their face, the curvature of their jaw it's like almost straight, and angles more aggressively about half way to mildly curved then their chin comes out of nowhere at 80% to the bottom... I have no talent at all for drawing, it's crazy hard for me, but I still do it anyway for fun. People are like just practice and you'll improve! There's no amount practice to replace something that's completely missing haha
Anyway, proud of you if you actually read all that wild ride
:::
psud@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 40d
Thank you, that really helps us on the other side of the fence understand
Traister101@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 41d
Probably about the same. Only realized at some point cause I was complaining about how a teacher always had us close our eyes and imagine shit. I was like tf are we doing this for when it doesn't do anything. And I got confused looks and somebody asked if I could see pictures in my head. I thought they were screwing with me and lo and behold most people can actually see things in their head similar to dreams.
Similar thing went down for the internal monolog. I believe I sort of complained offhand how movies/shows always depict people thinking as them just talking but how there wasn't exactly a better way to do it. Friend laughed and said something like "Well and obviously that's how people think too". Wouldn't have thought he was screwing with me if he wasn't constantly making things up lmao
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 41d
That must be so peaceful, I'm insanely jealous.
SuperUserDO@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 41d
I'm not OP, but I also don't have an internal monologue (and I don't dream, but I can construct images in my head "on demand"). I was in my late 20s before I realized that an internal monologue was not a literary device used by authors when telling a story - and people have an internal voice.
Think of it this way: unless something is causing sound externally there is absolute silence. It's peaceful sure, but your aware of all the little noises of things around you. One thing that can be hellish is getting a song stuck in your head ( I know several 3/4 and 5/4 melodies for just this reason).
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 40d
I never thought about it, but I'd assume that if you had no internal monologue that you also wouldn't be able to hear music in your head, either.
Brains are so weird.
I have aphantasia, but I assume that's more common than no internal monologue. I wish there were stats on this.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 40d
The numbers have become a little more accurate now with a load more research and wider groups being tested, where the people that have zero internal monologue at all (everything is conceptual, none of it is done via segments of their consciousness using words at all) is only about 5-8%
zerofk@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 40d
This has to be parody, right?
… right?
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com · 26 pts · 40d
I wonder if OP is one of those people without internal monologue and by thinking in terms of AI now it has some sort of one
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 6 pts · 40d
"It?" So OP isn't alive?
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 40d
Correct, but they're slowly gaining sapience as time goes on
edinbruh@feddit.it · 24 pts · 41d
*it
Chatgpt is a thing, not a person
saplyng@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 41d
This bothers me so much, my coworker constantly refers to Claude as "he" even when I remind him that's a bad idea for long term, to either call it "it" or Claude. But nope even in front of the CEO it's all "I was just working with him and gosh he makes everything so great blah blah blah, he frustrates me sometimes blah blah"
I think my coworker will be on the short path for ai psychosis
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 40d
I like to think my cyberpunk dystopia job will be catching these people in a giant butterfly net when they escape from the Palantir Workhouse.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 40d
That sounds kinda fun.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 40d
One of my colleagues is a native speaker of a romance language with gendered nouns.
So in English the LLM is 'him'.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 41d
Guys, I it works.
Just think "make no mistakes" and you can do whatever you want.
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 40d
Dude outsourced thinking so far he had to reinvent it.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 18 pts · 41d
Your own.
Personal.
Chat Bot.
Something to incorrectly hear your prayers,
Something that cannot care.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 41d
tunetardis@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 41d
Isn't ChatGPT when you ask your cat what he wants in French?
Aedis@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 41d
It's when you tell your cat "I farted" in french
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d
J'ai poussé un pet jusqu'au point de merde, mon petit chatton
E: for anyone confused, "chat g p t" sounds like "chat j'ai pété" which literally means "cat i farted". My phrase is a bit more... colorful
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 40d
G P T
tunetardis@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 41d
Omg you're right! I hadn't used the in-head gpt to sound it all out en français. LOL!!
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 40d
Idk which revelation impresses me more: This guy that discovered thinking, or the cat who proposed the revolutionary new equation of E = MC^2^ + AI
Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 40d
They use to call this religious experience
Hackworth@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 41d
Hints of /r/tulpa
someguy3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 41d
"Explain how."
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 41d
Hehe, I am immune. I have aphantasia and anendophasia.
4grams@awful.systems · 6 pts · 41d
Bicameral mind due for a comeback I see.
melfie@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 41d
This problem is real—you are right to question it.
Graphiar@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 41d
Wtf lol
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 40d
is bro a time traveler?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
I can't even, with a sliver of hope, believe this is not real.
cheesecake@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 41d