My dad's doctor actually did! He said since it seemed there were problems with feeling oxygen deprived, and we lived at high altitude, try taking a visit to the ocean.
Former owners of the company my partner works at have a host of health issues. They spend a lot of time on the seaside because it alleviates some of it. But also from firsthand experience I know how much it can help.
Man goes to doctor. Says the town is rundown and depressing with major heroin problem. Doctor says treatment is simple: “go to famous seaside town Blackpool. That should pick you up.” Man bursts into tears. “But Doctor, this is Blackpool!”
TBF I'm not a woman and I'm still disillusioned. The amount of times I've heard from doctors more or less verbatim "I don't know what to do" ... might as well prescribe recreational drugs and tell me to goon.
Am RN and wish I was allowed just give people recreational drugs and let them goon. Instead I have to explain that life is suffering, which is a much more difficult conversation. Have been thinking about getting some ICU experience so I can maybe transition to a ketamine clinic but they're gonna have to wait to go home for the gooning idw watch and definitely don't wanna help it's not that kinda service.
They're so constricted by the illusion of objectivity, red tape, the peer-review process, and the drawn-out approval of new drugs.
Like I get the point, but if there's an experimental cancer drug with high efficacy and you're not giving it to your late-stage terminal cancer patients simply because it's still making it's way through clinical trials or the FDA, then something is seriously wrong with that.
Also, assuming that nothing is correct until it's proven is not objectivity; it's negating the antecedent, a formal fallacy.
If there is enough evidence to prove its efficacy, then it's an effective treatment.
There is not enough evidence to prove its efficacy.
Therefore, it's not an effective treatment.
It does not follow that it's not an effective treatment.
But doctors don't give a shit about philosophy, so I'm not surprised this fallacy is basically endemic to the medical profession.
Like, give women coneflower, cohosh, fenugreek, and fennel for their menstrual cycles. It's not that deep.
A GP (doctor) once recommended walking in nature - something to do with fractals being pleasing to the eye - and now many years later I really do appreciate how much I enjoy and feel energised after walking in nature.
Mine still does, in fact that's the only thing he actually prescribes. Well, he recommends walking in the mountains, but that's because seaside is 8 hours away but mountains are only 30 minutes.
Well its like the nature walks, the studies showed it can have a better affect than depression meds. Or an amplified affect with both. Humans evolved along side nature and now don't live in it, our reptilian brain still enjoys it.
Sure that might be true. But neither "fix" your depression. Just as pain medication won't fix your broken leg. It will only make living with it easier.
To me this post resembled the shitty "just be happy" mentality depressed people often faced back in the day.
Depression is complex, but nature, walking, the sunshine, the chance interactions and exercise are shown to increase mood chemicals in the brain.
The only thing keep on the whole world from feeling depression is brain chemicals.
To me Depression is a symptom of a broken societal model. We no longer live as communities, we dont feel protected, we dont celebrate daily/weekly with family and close knit circles, we don't have a sense of accomplishment with modern work and life imbalance. We need to fix that before depression starts fading out of our societies.
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zeppo@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 52d
My dad's doctor actually did! He said since it seemed there were problems with feeling oxygen deprived, and we lived at high altitude, try taking a visit to the ocean.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social · 15 pts · 52d
Former owners of the company my partner works at have a host of health issues. They spend a lot of time on the seaside because it alleviates some of it. But also from firsthand experience I know how much it can help.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 52d
Oh, if I was picking something for an old timey doctor to prescribe me it would probably be laudanum
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 52d
Or cocaine .. but why not both?
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 52d
Or heroin, the new, non addictive cough medicine!
And anything with radium, of course.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 52d
That's basically what Laudanum was.
A nice mix of opium/morphine and alcohol sometimes up to 48%
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 52d
Sounds like a fun weekend
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 52d
I'd go for the cunnilingus, but that's just me...
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 52d
Man goes to doctor. Says the town is rundown and depressing with major heroin problem. Doctor says treatment is simple: “go to famous seaside town Blackpool. That should pick you up.” Man bursts into tears. “But Doctor, this is Blackpool!”
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 52d
how about a hitachi and a speedball
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
I suddenly get why women are so disillusioned about the modern medical system...
"What do you mean I can't just have some coke and goon?"
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 11 pts · 52d
TBF I'm not a woman and I'm still disillusioned. The amount of times I've heard from doctors more or less verbatim "I don't know what to do" ... might as well prescribe recreational drugs and tell me to goon.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 52d
Am RN and wish I was allowed just give people recreational drugs and let them goon. Instead I have to explain that life is suffering, which is a much more difficult conversation. Have been thinking about getting some ICU experience so I can maybe transition to a ketamine clinic but they're gonna have to wait to go home for the gooning idw watch and definitely don't wanna help it's not that kinda service.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 52d
They're so constricted by the illusion of objectivity, red tape, the peer-review process, and the drawn-out approval of new drugs.
Like I get the point, but if there's an experimental cancer drug with high efficacy and you're not giving it to your late-stage terminal cancer patients simply because it's still making it's way through clinical trials or the FDA, then something is seriously wrong with that.
Also, assuming that nothing is correct until it's proven is not objectivity; it's negating the antecedent, a formal fallacy.
Therefore, it's not an effective treatment.But doctors don't give a shit about philosophy, so I'm not surprised this fallacy is basically endemic to the medical profession.
Like, give women coneflower, cohosh, fenugreek, and fennel for their menstrual cycles. It's not that deep.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 52d
As a dude, this happens to me too (but I have rare "zebra" medical conditions)
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 52d
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 52d
The water vapor or the software?
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 52d
I bet lovense has an app or some other way to link it up to a video game especially VR
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 52d
"Take a trip to the seaside, it'll cure what ails you." "Doctor, I cannot afford that." "Leeches it is then!"
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 51d
If we're sticking to the early 1900s, then you're far more likely to be prescribed Laudanum rather than leeches.
Laudanum being heroin suspended in alcohol.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 51d
Eh, it's laudable.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Laudanum is a 1% morphine solution. Morphine is less potent then heroin. It is a different drug.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 50d
They're both derived from opium poppies, though.
viertesauge@feddit.org · 13 pts · 52d
they still do though..
d00ery@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 52d
A GP (doctor) once recommended walking in nature - something to do with fractals being pleasing to the eye - and now many years later I really do appreciate how much I enjoy and feel energised after walking in nature.
He also probably prescribed some chemicals.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 52d
In Czechia they still prescribe visits to the spa
GhostFace@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 51d
This would cure me.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 52d
It's not because your not in the right time period it's because your not rich
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 52d
Dunno, I have been prescribed times in rehab clinics and there are such clinics in seaside locations.
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 52d
Mine still does, in fact that's the only thing he actually prescribes. Well, he recommends walking in the mountains, but that's because seaside is 8 hours away but mountains are only 30 minutes.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 51d
You sure that's a doctor?
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
They have a paper!
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 52d
It helps to spend time away from the spooky ghosts haunting the manor.
oce@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 52d
What about going to the thermae and an olive oil scrapping?
remotedev@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 52d
"Come out to the coast, we'll get together and have a few laughs"
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
DaGammla@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 52d
"not to romanticize the medical practices of the early 1900s", but let's romanticize fixing your depression with a seaside prescription.
What is this idiotic post?
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 51d
Well its like the nature walks, the studies showed it can have a better affect than depression meds. Or an amplified affect with both. Humans evolved along side nature and now don't live in it, our reptilian brain still enjoys it.
DaGammla@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 51d
Sure that might be true. But neither "fix" your depression. Just as pain medication won't fix your broken leg. It will only make living with it easier.
To me this post resembled the shitty "just be happy" mentality depressed people often faced back in the day.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 51d
Depression is complex, but nature, walking, the sunshine, the chance interactions and exercise are shown to increase mood chemicals in the brain.
The only thing keep on the whole world from feeling depression is brain chemicals.
To me Depression is a symptom of a broken societal model. We no longer live as communities, we dont feel protected, we dont celebrate daily/weekly with family and close knit circles, we don't have a sense of accomplishment with modern work and life imbalance. We need to fix that before depression starts fading out of our societies.