Bautista and Cena have genuinely shocked me with their range and depth. Both have demonstrated the ability to showcase dramatic performances and (the harder one) comedic chops.
I remember seeing this and thinking “wow, he can actually act.” And it’s inconceivable that someone like the Rock or Vin Diesel would do a movie like that.
That was early in his career. When Stallone made Cop Land he was a guy who (despite some recent missteps) could get movies made. He chose the role to show his acting ability. Once Vin Diesel had that kind of juice he put riders into his contracts about whether or not his character could lose a fight.
It's absolutely fair because it is absolutely true. Those are simply facts. His entire performance was basically one scene which I thought came off a teeny bit of ham fisted but not bad. He simply was not in the movie all that much. To say otherwise is simply inaccurate.
I'm sorry. The first three? I believe it - especially Ritchson. But I don't care what he looks like, there is zero chance I'm going to buy a "smart" Stallone
I like him as an actor, but I wouldn't find him playing a "smart" character very convincing. Him as a scientist would be great for a comedy movie though.
IMO Bautista is on the underrated side. He can be hilarious, unhinged, dumb muscle, and serious AF. TBF he’s really picked some roles with good writing and direction which helps a lot.
Nah the rock can actually act, he’s just usually taking the same type of big dumb roles. He was great in Ballers, and in that movie with Marky Mark. I’ve heard great things about him in the smashing machine too.
He just plays the same character in most movies, but he never a “bad” actor. What do you think he is bad in?
He doesn't, but by going on Fox News and refusing to endorse "a candidate" he implicitly endorsed Trump. Johnson had previously voted for Obama twice and endorsed Biden in 2020
The version of this that I especially loathe is when they write the character like he's crushed by insecurities but gets instantly hot and confident once he takes the glasses off.
I have a hard time thinking of someone with the same degree as me (BSME) as a science guy. I know I'm no science guy. I would think a science guy would have a graduate level degree of some kind. Something that involves research to acquire. I'd watch the shit out of Dolph Lundgren the Science Guy, though.
Eh. He's only good at things that can be solved with violence or stoicism, hurts himself and others by being emotionally unavailable and poorly socialized, and is constantly running from his past figuratively and literally. It's basically the same archetype as the hardboiled detectives from a century ago.
No no. You see, a male character is awesome and badass and alpha male while the female version is just a Mary Sue and woke and forced diversity and blah blah blah.
Im glad to see all these Bautista comments. I lived him as Drax (Dax? DAAAAX?). I remember seeing him do something else silly that I enjoyed, but Ill have to check out his more serious stuff.
I'm fast and smart and dumb and real slow-like in the brain department. I didn't know what my book was about until three years after I wrote it. It dawned on me that the whole thing is an homage to Of Mice and Men one day when I was picking up groceries. I am an oblivious savant, that's how I identify. I also identify as a Mormon Occultist. Praise the lord and hail Satan!
I am a performance artist playing an autobiographical character to market my educational art project aiming to teach philosophy, spirituality, and mental health skills to help people heal n self-actualize while healing and self-actualizing in the process. Part of this involves learning to shrug more and more and more. I say insane things and this attracts attention to my work and I express myself as a schizoaffective n autistic person with PTSD.
99 Comments
inari@piefed.zip · 155 pts · 41d
Dave Bautista killed it in that role
Prestron@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 41d
Morton Sapper saw a miracle through those bitty specs.
Seriously, Bautista is great. That movie is amazing too.
Poxlox@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 41d
What's the movie?
fubarx@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 41d
Blade Runner 2049.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 40d
I thought this was from Knock at the Cabin, which he also wore glasses in.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 41d
It makes me think about how actors who we consider unremarkable might be hiding amazing performances if placed in the right role with great direction.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 41d
Bautista and Cena have genuinely shocked me with their range and depth. Both have demonstrated the ability to showcase dramatic performances and (the harder one) comedic chops.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
Ricky Stanicky was the best comedy since 2010.
rhombus@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 39d
I’ve seen a few interviews with Cena and I could listen to him talk about acting and comedy all day. Man really knows his craft.
dance_ninja@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 41d
After seeing him in that role, he seems so underutilized in other movies.
Enzy@feddit.nu · 81 pts · 41d
Dave Bautista is undoubtedly the only actor with range in this picture.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 41d
Arnold has a pretty broad range, just lacking the depth.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 40d
you don't think Alan Ritchson has range?
I'm not sure of my own opinion on it, tbh. but I was introduced to him as Thad, so seeing him later on in serious roles was a head turner
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 40d
Whys thad in the cookie race?
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
I’m assuming the people who think that have only been introduced to him in reacher and a few action movies since then.
Enzy@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 40d
I first saw him in Smallville and thought he was equally as stiff then.
But he definitely nailed Reacher.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d
Watch a single episode of Blue Mountain State and see what you think about him having no range.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 39d
I'm so used to him being Thad that it's quite surprising to see him in something that's not a comedy at this point
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 41d
Stallone had some range at one time.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 40d
Dude, Rocky is a great movie. And First Blood showed some range, too.
I love Demolition Man and Daylight for reasons other than range.
Ledivin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 40d
You can be a great actor and have no range, it just means you're typecast. Some people fall into it over time, some start that way.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 40d
Try Cop Land. Not your typical Stallone pic.
historicaldocuments@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 40d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_Land
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 40d
I remember seeing this and thinking “wow, he can actually act.” And it’s inconceivable that someone like the Rock or Vin Diesel would do a movie like that.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 40d
Vin Diesel was in Saving Private Ryan
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 40d
That was early in his career. When Stallone made Cop Land he was a guy who (despite some recent missteps) could get movies made. He chose the role to show his acting ability. Once Vin Diesel had that kind of juice he put riders into his contracts about whether or not his character could lose a fight.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
He was a very minor character. Who died very early on too.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 40d
That's not fair towards his performance
njm1314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
It's absolutely fair because it is absolutely true. Those are simply facts. His entire performance was basically one scene which I thought came off a teeny bit of ham fisted but not bad. He simply was not in the movie all that much. To say otherwise is simply inaccurate.
chris@l.roofo.cc · 9 pts · 40d
Funnily he's also the only one where the glasses look good.
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 40d
Aww, I think Arnold looks cute here
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 41d
I'm sorry. The first three? I believe it - especially Ritchson. But I don't care what he looks like, there is zero chance I'm going to buy a "smart" Stallone
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 41d
Dudes been nominated for academy awards 3 times, same with golden globes and he won one of those.
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 41d
None of which has to do with being smart.
I like him as an actor, but I wouldn't find him playing a "smart" character very convincing. Him as a scientist would be great for a comedy movie though.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 41d
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338459/
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 41d
Like I said, not convincing but great for comedic effect.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 41d
I'm not saying it makes a person smart, but he did write (and I think produced) Rocky. So not just an actor.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
He's also fluent in a few languages.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 41d
He’s got Clark Kent look going on there. Something the other characters would buy, but everyone in the audience knows it’s a disguise.
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 41d
I also wouldn't buy a smart Dolph Lundgren despite all his academic achievements.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 40d
Right? He doesn't even know about the three seashells
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 41d
Stallone smart reads as wall street smart, which as we all know is as much smart as it is a combination of lucky and cheating.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 41d
Came here to see if someone said that already.
unknown@piefed.social · 1 pts · 40d
Sly looked hella good in those glasses tho, which is I think all that counts.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 41d
I'm more annoyed that 3 of these people are 6+ feet tall and one is almost legally disabled he's so short.
albbi@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 41d
Why does that annoy you?
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
It's a meme?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 41d
I wonder why they always seem to pick round frames. Maybe just because they look nerdier?
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 41d
I'm guessing to contrast with the big angular jawline
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 41d
It's nerdier, but not so nerdy that you'd think they're a total wimp. For that you need squareish lenses with thick plastic frames
Auli@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 40d
No one is thinking a six foot plus 250 pounds of muscle is weak.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 40d
IMO Bautista is on the underrated side. He can be hilarious, unhinged, dumb muscle, and serious AF. TBF he’s really picked some roles with good writing and direction which helps a lot.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 40d
unlike the rock, who cant act for poop, and he really is difficult to work with when it comes around action and contracts.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 40d
Nah the rock can actually act, he’s just usually taking the same type of big dumb roles. He was great in Ballers, and in that movie with Marky Mark. I’ve heard great things about him in the smashing machine too.
He just plays the same character in most movies, but he never a “bad” actor. What do you think he is bad in?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 40d
I didn't like him in that Fox News short where he played a guy who "can't endorse a candidate this election cycle"
T156@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
I'm confused. Why does he need to endorse an election candidate? He's an actor/wrestler, not a politician.
It's not as though he's any smarter or more informed than the average person is in that regard.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
He doesn't, but by going on Fox News and refusing to endorse "a candidate" he implicitly endorsed Trump. Johnson had previously voted for Obama twice and endorsed Biden in 2020
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 41d
The version of this that I especially loathe is when they write the character like he's crushed by insecurities but gets instantly hot and confident once he takes the glasses off.
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 41d
It's like he becomes some kinda super man or something.
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 41d
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
Fantastic show btw, I wish more people knew the origin of that gif
KittyCat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
Both seasons are fantastic, shame we never got a third.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 40d
Man, Clark Kent and his stupid "disguise" can F right off.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 40d
Girls are the same wear glasses and a Geek. Take them off and instant hotty.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 40d
Is "not another teen movie" dead as a reference?
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 40d
Don’t forget to let the hair down too!
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 41d
I believe this trick cause Dolph Lundgren (Ivan Drago from Rocky) has a master's degree in chemical engineering
ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 41d
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 41d
But he is qualified to be called "Science Guy", so no harm, no foul, right?
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 40d
I have a hard time thinking of someone with the same degree as me (BSME) as a science guy. I know I'm no science guy. I would think a science guy would have a graduate level degree of some kind. Something that involves research to acquire. I'd watch the shit out of Dolph Lundgren the Science Guy, though.
redhorsejacket@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 40d
You make a valid enough point. My threshold for "Science Guy" is pretty low; I'm a humanities grad.
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 41d
Should have added the Hulk with glasses too
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 2 pts · 40d
That is the most absurd one. Hulk can fix every cut by a monster blade, every hit by a nuclear bomb but can't fix the eyes?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 41d
Lol Reacher is the most "Mary Sue" (or whatever he male equivalent) character I've ever seen on TV.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 40d
"Gary Stu" is a pretty common substitution. And I agree, but the show is still fun. 🤷♂️
Soggy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 41d
Eh. He's only good at things that can be solved with violence or stoicism, hurts himself and others by being emotionally unavailable and poorly socialized, and is constantly running from his past figuratively and literally. It's basically the same archetype as the hardboiled detectives from a century ago.
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 41d
I've heard Marty Stu to describe that trope for make characters
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 41d
No no. You see, a male character is awesome and badass and alpha male while the female version is just a Mary Sue and woke and forced diversity and blah blah blah.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 40d
Well you see they grew up watching Arnold and Stallon. So that is OK.
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 41d
I think that picture is from Ministry of ungentlemenly warfare.
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 41d
It is, and he plays a character with exceedingly limited range in that movie lol
TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 41d
I really enjoyed his attempt at a Dutch accent
deacon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
I actually unfamiliar with that trope
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 41d
A self-insert (by the author) character who is unreasonably good at everything they attempt.
deacon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d
Thank you for my new knowledge.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 41d
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 41d
Clark Kent was on to something
(Diana Prince gets it, too.)
pjwestin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 40d
Sylvester Stallone is Clark Kent.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 40d
Im glad to see all these Bautista comments. I lived him as Drax (Dax? DAAAAX?). I remember seeing him do something else silly that I enjoyed, but Ill have to check out his more serious stuff.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 40d
Oh man, it's gonna be so surprising and contrasting when they get violent.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 41d
Stallone is tiny lol
tempest@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 41d
The 'big' guys in older movies all look small compared to the current ones that all look like the rock in pain and gain.
hakase@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 41d
Stallone is really little though.
Cascio@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 41d
Is that Oscar or Tango & Cash?
AceTKen@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 39d
Josh from GMM says "Hi."
Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 41d
I'm fast and smart and dumb and real slow-like in the brain department. I didn't know what my book was about until three years after I wrote it. It dawned on me that the whole thing is an homage to Of Mice and Men one day when I was picking up groceries. I am an oblivious savant, that's how I identify. I also identify as a Mormon Occultist. Praise the lord and hail Satan!
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 40d
I can't tell if this is a novelty account or someone with a really unhealthy way of working through their schizophrenia.
Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 40d
Stop thinking in duality. It's both and neither.
I am a performance artist playing an autobiographical character to market my educational art project aiming to teach philosophy, spirituality, and mental health skills to help people heal n self-actualize while healing and self-actualizing in the process. Part of this involves learning to shrug more and more and more. I say insane things and this attracts attention to my work and I express myself as a schizoaffective n autistic person with PTSD.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
🤮
Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 40d
Why'd you post the smiley giving Shrek a blowjob?