when I was a little kid watching LotR for the first time and Boromir described Mordor by saying "the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume" I thought, okay I get what you're going for, but even for this setting that's a little over the top melodramatic, dontcha think?
now I can't leave my house because the greed of evil men has literally corrupted the very essence of the Earth and blotted out the Sun
I travelled up to Michigan to visit family and friends for a few weeks, as well as enjoy the lake. Can't go outside because the air is, according to the news, "the equivalent of smoking 17 cigarettes for every hour you're outside".
There was a head rush that felt kinda neat at first. Guessing because nicotine binds to the ACE2 receptors, which play a role in ATP reuse (iirc), ATP being the big energy molecule that powers the current multicellular life, so it's similar to a bit of oxygen deprivation in that available ATP is reduced.
But then the body just expresses more ACE2 receptors to compensate, so you stop getting the head rushes. This happens fairly quickly, too, like you might get them for like half of your first pack of smokes before the "feels better after a smoke" is more about getting rid of nicotine withdrawal than any positive feelings (if you enjoy the altered feeling of a head rush).
Welcome to what the west coast has been dealing with for many years now. There are more important people in the east maybe we'll start to think about trying to start to take this seriously.
We've been dealing with wildfire smoke for years now, our genius Conservative provincial government has been cutting the budget for the services that prevent and put them out.
The fires are in Ontario, just north-ish of Thunder Bay.
And the genius Federal liberals have thrown out most emissions laws and taxes to reduce carbon emissions and pollution. So the whole country can be a toxic shithole like Alberta.
I understand the naysayers' point but a functioning EPA would work WITH Canada. We could, you know, be a good neighbor. Together both nations could help predict fires, track them, respond together, etc. The current environment of aggression is not the only possible course of action. Unfortunately, there is no hope in that changing this moment.
The EPA can't do anything about Canadian forest fires.
Canadian Right wingers have cut firefighting budgets and dropped emissions laws to align with the USA, so this problem, which literally never happened before 5 years ago, will be the new summer experience for North America.
Being outside earlier today was awful, I had an appointment I couldn't miss, but I've got a MERV13 filter in my HVAC at home running non stop to circulate and filter, one HEPA filter on each floor of the house, and one in my office. Indoor AQI got up to 40 downstairs yesterday so I set all the purifiers to max overnight and I'm down to 10-15 this morning. We are not going outside today lol staying in our safe little bubble
I was in a very drafty house during two big fires in california, and of course close enough to both our air quality was severely impacted. We had visible smoke in the hallways. A HEPA filter on the back of a box fan in our rooms did wonders. If anyone is in need of cheap option.
I don’t know why I’m replying to myself instead of editing my first comment but, well I don’t think comments cost money, and they seemed like iterative thoughts to me. So don’t worry about it.
I live in southern Minnesota and had to drive up to St Paul this morning. Anything more then a few feet away looked like it had a grey filter over it. A block away and it looked like it was shot in black and white.
It was even worse last night, at least it looked smokier and stank more than this morning. Smelled like a burnt version of that awful acridity you smell when concrete's being cut.
I came back from vacation this week, and it was quite a moment when I saw the sun rising in the morning, through a yellow haze, colored a fluorescent shade of “apocalypse pink.” Very reassuring, very comforting.
I should’ve stayed up in the mountains a while longer.
If people are in the affected areas, check out https://worldwide-maskbloc.org/ to see if there's a mask bloc near you! I'm a part of one, and we've been giving a lot of masks the last two days.
Oof. That's horrendous. Hoping for a steady nó lightning few days to assist.
We had days of 999 (where the scale stopped) during the Australian bushfires in 2019, and anything over 150 was already brutal. Above 300 and you feel like you can chew the air.
canada is haivng massive wildfire, turning the air quality very poor. in MA, the sky is ORANGE. when cali had large fires in 2020, the sky was dark red , even in the morning. and it was hard to breathe.
I went outside yesterday, and suddenly was breathing in burnt Canada. It smelled like burnt plastic TBH, and the sky looked like it was colored movie Mexico. Reminds me of a few years ago when the same thing happened. I hope nobody's died.
I say it jokingly, but Upstate NY and Pennsyltucky have less in common with their big cities than New Jersey does. So it's half joking, but 100% serious.
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arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 67d
when I was a little kid watching LotR for the first time and Boromir described Mordor by saying "the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume" I thought, okay I get what you're going for, but even for this setting that's a little over the top melodramatic, dontcha think?
now I can't leave my house because the greed of evil men has literally corrupted the very essence of the Earth and blotted out the Sun
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 32 pts · 67d
USA = Mordor Got it
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 67d
Make Mordor Great Again
DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 67d
Trump is working on that.
Donkter@lemmy.world · 92 pts · 67d
Wow! We're officially the worst air quality in the world right now!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 46 pts · 67d
Take that China!
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 67d
Canada is burning.
Siberian wildfires would have the same effect in China, but with added industrial pollution.
frunch@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 67d
NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE! NUMBER ONE! WOOOOOOOO USA BABY YEEEHAW 🇺🇸🎇🔥🌡️🎆🇺🇸
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 67d
So much winning!
HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social · 8 pts · 67d
🎉😷
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 67d
I travelled up to Michigan to visit family and friends for a few weeks, as well as enjoy the lake. Can't go outside because the air is, according to the news, "the equivalent of smoking 17 cigarettes for every hour you're outside".
Shits fucked up here right now.
Sasquatch@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 67d
Damn and you don't even get high what a ripoff
MohamedMoney@feddit.org · 3 pts · 67d
You get high from cigarettes?
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 8 pts · 67d
I do, and it's unpleasant as fuck. That's the main reason I never started smoking. That shit fucks me up, majorly.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
There was a head rush that felt kinda neat at first. Guessing because nicotine binds to the ACE2 receptors, which play a role in ATP reuse (iirc), ATP being the big energy molecule that powers the current multicellular life, so it's similar to a bit of oxygen deprivation in that available ATP is reduced.
But then the body just expresses more ACE2 receptors to compensate, so you stop getting the head rushes. This happens fairly quickly, too, like you might get them for like half of your first pack of smokes before the "feels better after a smoke" is more about getting rid of nicotine withdrawal than any positive feelings (if you enjoy the altered feeling of a head rush).
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
It's why we smoke them if we got them.
And the cigarette break is on of the few acceptable "gimme a minutes"
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 67d
What's hilarious is watching people smoke cigarettes in this air.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 66d
And then they complain about the other smoke.
Canajan@piefed.ca · -14 pts · 67d
Your inept administration in Michigan wrote a letter to Carney about the smoke. Fucking idiots.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 67d
Uh....I'm visiting.....
jtrek@startrek.website · 43 pts · 67d
There are people responsible for climate change. We should feed them to the fires. Perhaps it will appease the gods.
DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 67d
It won't work, but we should still try.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 8 pts · 67d
I don't see any downsides. Proceed
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
it will create more smoke, now with maga-particles in the air.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 40 pts · 67d
Welcome to what the west coast has been dealing with for many years now. There are more important people in the east maybe we'll start to think about trying to start to take this seriously.
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 67d
We've been dealing with wildfire smoke for years now, our genius Conservative provincial government has been cutting the budget for the services that prevent and put them out.
The fires are in Ontario, just north-ish of Thunder Bay.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
Then I don't know how to be any clearer! You take that thing that's in your hand, and you-
If you say "sweep the forest" one more time-
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 67d
And the genius Federal liberals have thrown out most emissions laws and taxes to reduce carbon emissions and pollution. So the whole country can be a toxic shithole like Alberta.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 67d
This has been happening here for the last three years.
The problem is being attributed to the disappearance of some mystical "forest rakers" that no one has ever met.
xylol@leminal.space · 1 pts · 67d
Probably got cut by doge
fireweed@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
cries in Washingtonian
eah@programming.dev · 2 pts · 67d
We need to set the Ozarks on fire and get the south thinking.
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 31 pts · 67d
This is fine.
Sarothazrom@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 67d
don't worry, USA cut all of the ability for the EPA to do anything, so this will definitely get better.
psilotop@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 66d
I understand the naysayers' point but a functioning EPA would work WITH Canada. We could, you know, be a good neighbor. Together both nations could help predict fires, track them, respond together, etc. The current environment of aggression is not the only possible course of action. Unfortunately, there is no hope in that changing this moment.
Sarothazrom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
this 👆
Kind_to_Everyone@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 67d
I cannot stress enough that Canada is a sovereign country and not under the jurisdiction of the EPA.
Sarothazrom@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 66d
Oh yeah i know lol, im just bitching that the US has no way to do anything about this.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 65d
You watch they'll use tariffs somehow
Kind_to_Everyone@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 65d
Sure it does. It can send help.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 66d
I thought it was like a hat or something.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 67d
The EPA can't do anything about Canadian forest fires. Canadian Right wingers have cut firefighting budgets and dropped emissions laws to align with the USA, so this problem, which literally never happened before 5 years ago, will be the new summer experience for North America.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 67d
What were they gonna do?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 67d
Rake the leaves!
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 67d
The market will regulate itself and improve air quality
HubertManne@piefed.social · 22 pts · 67d
I swear chicago is at some sort of crux. no matter where the wildfires are we seem to get hit. north, south, east, or west.
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 67d
They dont call it the windy city for nothing, you got all the cross streams.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 66d
It was originally called that because of a meatpacking rivalry turned sporty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windy_City_(nickname)
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deacon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 66d
They actually call it the Windy City because of the politicians originally. I think.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 67d
The good news is the heat wave in Toronto has ended... things cooled down when the smoke blocked out the sun.
On Tuesday I was actually thinking "huh, we haven't had smoke this year, that's cool." Wednesday morning.... well shit there it is.
GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 67d
This afternoon...
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 67d
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 67d
How are you alive right now? The 400 im stuck in is unsufferable.
GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
Being outside earlier today was awful, I had an appointment I couldn't miss, but I've got a MERV13 filter in my HVAC at home running non stop to circulate and filter, one HEPA filter on each floor of the house, and one in my office. Indoor AQI got up to 40 downstairs yesterday so I set all the purifiers to max overnight and I'm down to 10-15 this morning. We are not going outside today lol staying in our safe little bubble
save_the_humans@leminal.space · 1 pts · 65d
I was in a very drafty house during two big fires in california, and of course close enough to both our air quality was severely impacted. We had visible smoke in the hallways. A HEPA filter on the back of a box fan in our rooms did wonders. If anyone is in need of cheap option.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 66d
Eh, it gets better.
deacon@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 67d
500 where I am right now. I didn’t even have a sense of the AQI scale until today, and now it’s quite skewed.
deacon@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 67d
It’s like learning what airplanes are on 9/11
deacon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 67d
I don’t know why I’m replying to myself instead of editing my first comment but, well I don’t think comments cost money, and they seemed like iterative thoughts to me. So don’t worry about it.
snoons@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 67d
There's also Windy for a more detailed map. Also just a cool website.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 67d
Windy is cool, thanks
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 67d
674...is there even air in there?
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 10 pts · 67d
I live in southern Minnesota and had to drive up to St Paul this morning. Anything more then a few feet away looked like it had a grey filter over it. A block away and it looked like it was shot in black and white.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
It was even worse last night, at least it looked smokier and stank more than this morning. Smelled like a burnt version of that awful acridity you smell when concrete's being cut.
xylol@leminal.space · 9 pts · 67d
Reminds me of the videos people made of the smoke in San Francisco in the style of blader runner 2049 during covid times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_m9TUP_t_Y
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 66d
I came back from vacation this week, and it was quite a moment when I saw the sun rising in the morning, through a yellow haze, colored a fluorescent shade of “apocalypse pink.” Very reassuring, very comforting.
I should’ve stayed up in the mountains a while longer.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 67d
So how long until the boreal forests burn up and this ends?
DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 67d
Never, cause it'll keep regrowing to burn again.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 64d
At some point a dust bowl or flood will rip away the topsoil after a fire, and the forest will stop growing back. It'll just be a barren desert.
Of course then the dust and sand storms can still give you dust pneumonia, silicosis, and lung cancer, but technically that's not the forests.
Wren@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 67d
I woke up thinking the house was on fire, the smell of smoke was so thick. I'm not even in the worst parts.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
I was in NYC today. The visibility is bad, probably down to less than a mile sometimes, but the local airport says it was 2 miles.
doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 67d
The Hollywood filter has come to NYC
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
It was so much worse in the ‘80s in the L.A. basin. This smoke is nasty, but the layer of brown hazmat that laid over Los Angeles was awful.
doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 67d
You lived in the 1900s?!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 67d
We breathed the brown air.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 67d
Thats why we wore onions on our belts, but not yellow onions, because of the war...
durian@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 66d
If people are in the affected areas, check out https://worldwide-maskbloc.org/ to see if there's a mask bloc near you! I'm a part of one, and we've been giving a lot of masks the last two days.
Take care!
superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
Can people catch explosive diarrhea from this too?... But really, I'm surprised there's data on this but not that
Glifted@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
I live at 590
CptOblivius@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
Last year our area hit 800+. It was surreal. Apocalyptic looking skies.
Dvixen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
Oof. That's horrendous. Hoping for a steady nó lightning few days to assist.
We had days of 999 (where the scale stopped) during the Australian bushfires in 2019, and anything over 150 was already brutal. Above 300 and you feel like you can chew the air.
razen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
What is happening? Arent there air usually very clean?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 67d
canada is haivng massive wildfire, turning the air quality very poor. in MA, the sky is ORANGE. when cali had large fires in 2020, the sky was dark red , even in the morning. and it was hard to breathe.
razen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Sad, hope it gets ok.
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 66d
I went outside yesterday, and suddenly was breathing in burnt Canada. It smelled like burnt plastic TBH, and the sky looked like it was colored movie Mexico. Reminds me of a few years ago when the same thing happened. I hope nobody's died.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 66d
Definitely isnt a state between Ohio and New Jersey
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
I've always said New York City and Philadelphia ought to belong to New Jersey, and this map seems to have taken my advice.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 65d
Thank makes zero sense to me, but it did make me giggle.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
I say it jokingly, but Upstate NY and Pennsyltucky have less in common with their big cities than New Jersey does. So it's half joking, but 100% serious.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 65d
Pennsyltucky! I love seeing that term in the wild. But yea I get you.
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 67d
Like someone took a liberal knife and sliced it up