It's a joke, but that shit was serious. Imagine a squad of heavily armed men showing up and demanding to sleep in your house, eat your food, and potentially steal your things and sexually assault you or your family members. And if you refuse or resist, they will still do all of those things but assault or kill you.
That's how this worked in Europe for much of history and for America.
I dream of the day when someone tries to challenge the evidence of a police search based on the Third Amendment:
"Your honor, I move to dismiss the mountain of evidence obtained from my client's alleged "drug lab of the gods" based on the local PD's violation of my client's Third Amendment rights! As you know, the alleged drug lab took several days for the police to process through, and in that time, they violated my client's rights! First, they were heavily militarized, decked out entirely in gear completely unfit for peace officers and only fit for soldiers. Therefore they should count as "troops" under the Third Amendment. And, during the search, they quartered themselves in my client's home! Two of them stole snacks from the fridge, and one took a short nap on my client's couch. These troops were quartering themselves, in peace time, in my client's home. Therefore, all evidence from the search must be declared inadmissible!"
Now, if heavily armed men show up at my door demanding these things, I can say "I'm afraid that's unconstitutional my guy!" And they will go " Oh shit I'm sorry I totally spaced on 3A!" And they will leave my belongings and wife alone.
It’s also worth noting that soldiers were the cops at the time of the third amendment, so it’s not even just about soldiers, but law enforcement more broadly (or at least it was at the time). That framing makes its position between the second and the fourth make more sense.
Yeah, and watching our federal government unleash troops on our own cities the past year and a half has made me more thankful of this amendment than I'd ever been before.
Considering we've seen them sending out the national guard without housing plans and launching ice raids from private campuses, this doesn't seem far fetched?
This sounds hypothetical and old fashioned but Trump was trying to force hotels to house ICE agents while they do their gestapo shit. So it's still very relevant.
Reading the american constitution shocked me, how can a country have such a constitution?! It promises almost nothing, it's just the barebone! How can it be so short too?
Be a weird 8th amendment person! Rail endlessly against the death penalty and inhumane prison conditions! But like in a way that's as annoying as the 2nders are
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ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 131 pts · 36d
It's a joke, but that shit was serious. Imagine a squad of heavily armed men showing up and demanding to sleep in your house, eat your food, and potentially steal your things and sexually assault you or your family members. And if you refuse or resist, they will still do all of those things but assault or kill you.
That's how this worked in Europe for much of history and for America.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 30 pts · 36d
The comparison to today's cops/ICE would seem to indicate that it's the sleeping and eating that are the problem in that scenario.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 35d
I dream of the day when someone tries to challenge the evidence of a police search based on the Third Amendment:
"Your honor, I move to dismiss the mountain of evidence obtained from my client's alleged "drug lab of the gods" based on the local PD's violation of my client's Third Amendment rights! As you know, the alleged drug lab took several days for the police to process through, and in that time, they violated my client's rights! First, they were heavily militarized, decked out entirely in gear completely unfit for peace officers and only fit for soldiers. Therefore they should count as "troops" under the Third Amendment. And, during the search, they quartered themselves in my client's home! Two of them stole snacks from the fridge, and one took a short nap on my client's couch. These troops were quartering themselves, in peace time, in my client's home. Therefore, all evidence from the search must be declared inadmissible!"
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 36d
Damn it's crazy how they used to act like Israelis
Agent641@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 35d
Now, if heavily armed men show up at my door demanding these things, I can say "I'm afraid that's unconstitutional my guy!" And they will go " Oh shit I'm sorry I totally spaced on 3A!" And they will leave my belongings and wife alone.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 35d
Laws are about recourse, not prevention.
echodot@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 35d
Which is why there is a section on your tax form to report bribes.
Obviously no one does, it's just something else they can throw at you when they catch you.
Furbag@pawb.social · 3 pts · 35d
The IRS doesn't give a shit if you accept a bribe, they just want their cut. Income is income, no matter the source.
Technically speaking, accepting a bribe is not illegal in most cases, just unethical always.
Impound4017@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 35d
It’s also worth noting that soldiers were the cops at the time of the third amendment, so it’s not even just about soldiers, but law enforcement more broadly (or at least it was at the time). That framing makes its position between the second and the fourth make more sense.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 36d
Yeah, and watching our federal government unleash troops on our own cities the past year and a half has made me more thankful of this amendment than I'd ever been before.
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 36d
Also recent House of the Dragon episode highlights the problems with quartering soldiers
PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca · 58 pts · 36d
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 32 pts · 36d
Never!!!
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 35d
Set them on fire.
kshade@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 35d
#RepealTheThird!
ghost9@piefed.social · 46 pts · 36d
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 36d
Considering we've seen them sending out the national guard without housing plans and launching ice raids from private campuses, this doesn't seem far fetched?
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 10 pts · 35d
yeah honestly I feel very strongly about the third, and if it was ever broken others would too. It exists for VERY good reason.
Toribor@corndog.social · 12 pts · 35d
This sounds hypothetical and old fashioned but Trump was trying to force hotels to house ICE agents while they do their gestapo shit. So it's still very relevant.
JustTheWind@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 35d
Even better, when he's on deployment, other men sleep at HIS house. True UNO reverse card.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
Ain't no use feeling blue, Jody's got your sister too
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 35d
Gotta love how all the "rights" from the state are just phony promises that the state won't attack you.
No rights for basic human needs: food, water, shelter, clean air, etc...
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 4 pts · 35d
Reading the american constitution shocked me, how can a country have such a constitution?! It promises almost nothing, it's just the barebone! How can it be so short too?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 34d
It's a pretty early constitution and it's largely focused on grievances with the british and then things that really broke in our country
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 34d
Usans compensate for the size with excellent PR
finley@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 36d
I don’t know… Whenever I had guys who were in the military sleepover at my place, it was pretty amazing
It was always their endurance that I found the most impressive 😉
marighost@piefed.social · 21 pts · 36d
That you, Violet?
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 35d
I miss violet so much
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 36d
Hot
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
What would you say about their testosterone level?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
Be a weird 8th amendment person! Rail endlessly against the death penalty and inhumane prison conditions! But like in a way that's as annoying as the 2nders are
Pacrat173@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 36d
If your cold they’re cold bring them inside
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 35d
Worst amendment: 18th
Best amendment: 21st