The dude knew he was typecasted but grew rich doing it. Can't really fault him for taking on work offered and promoting the shit out of it. I only wish other former wrestlers like Bautista were offered more roles, I really liked his role in Blade Runner 2049.
Rich people tend towards entitlement then progress to full fascism. It is a easy trap to fall into with having your ass kissed 24/7 and other already fascists slowly lead you that way.
I know there are well-known conservative Hollywood types, but it seems most in that crowd lean left. They're all pretty rich. I've also done fundraising in solid blue areas where you had to walk 5 minutes down someone's driveway to knock on the door of their mansion.
So no, it's not "human nature". That's an excuse the greedier ones us to justify their selfishness.
The more outspoken ones are left leaning. Which honestly doesn't say much these days. The right leaning ones not being directly paid off know that Trump II (hell, even Trump I) ain't good PR. The ones left leaning probably need to defy their PR to speak out to begin with.
Overall, being rich means the system works for you, which tends to boost nationalism. Nationalism without actually giving back to your country is a surefire road to fascism. It's just too easy by that point to isolate and not create empathy in that scenario (the best preventative measure to fascism, and most kinds of prejudice in general).
In both of my examples, I can think of instances where a person is or is likely left leaning. Granted those small populations, but they're more sizable than you'd think. Some of us found people willing to write a $10,000 check on a whim (I was not that lucky). These people were very much not Republicans. Saying something is due to "human nature" means pretty everybody does it. If anything, of the groups I'm talking about, I'd say far more are quiet than loud. They vote and donate Democrat but don't necessarily make it their entire personality.
I don't know about nationalism being boosted by being rich. If anything, these people have more interest in global investments and wider view of the world than people without a direct reason to be so. I think that might make some of them more realistic about nationalism. I also see plenty of it among those much less fortunate - it's emotional thing heavily inculcated by wider society. Questioning is still largely socially unacceptable.
Hes been quoted saying "today's cancle culture, woke culture really bothers me" I'm paraphrasing. He says he feels talking about politics is bad for him. I get not wanting to talk about politics, but, if youre not for trump you would come out and say it because no one would ever want it to be a question. And hes just a dick in general.
Saying you dont like woke culture is very indicative. Very understandable not to want to talk about politics, but, with orange Mussolini in charge you would want no confusion where you stand unless you support him.
funny you should mention rock being a rightie, alot of WWE wrestlers are magaty, KANE, undertaker, stone cold. dont know about cenas leanings. as thier audience is often on the right anyways.
I feel like professional entertainers (who aren't hateful bigots) can have a valid point about dislike 'woke culture', that's completely separate from "politics".
The culture wars are basically integral to entertainment these days. Media companies are using rage bait to promote their movies.
It's easy for us anons to throw salt when we can just disengage as our mental health requires.
I don't know actually if The Rock is a facsist, but barring real evidence I think you're watering down the term here.
He is in danger, or rather his career is in danger, if he voices his political opinion, no matter what direction he takes.
That doesn't disprove the second option mind you. But wanting to be left the fuck alone in the current hellscape that is american politics doesn't make you a fascist. It at most makes him a coward.
If he said something in that ballpark, it's stupid either way. Especially if he broke that anyway because he had to be concerned about "woke culture".
I guess I'd need more context, but The Rock isn't exactly someone I feel is being constantly prodded on politics, at least from interviews he chooses to take.
if its R his career would be dead(like chris "cant keep his mouth shut" pratt.), and he loves being a movie star. there is some leeway if he leans the other way.
And his head got so big he practically had to have the DCEU written around him. He refused to be a villain in the Shazam movie and demanded his own Black Adam film where he's more of an anti-hero instead of straight up bad guy who defeats the bad guy
oh yea everyone was criticizing DWANYE for the black adam movie, and the shazam has its own crazy going on, the "shazam guy" turns out to be a looney person too.
hes also an attention whore, loves the movie star lifestyle, i think thats why hes quite lowkey about it, im not surprised he is one, WWE wrestlers are pretty conservative. i think NIA jax was another one.
That sure makes it sound like 800 million is a lot more money than any one individual should be worth while folks are homeless, starving, and dying without care.
Someone who's better with money than me could probably retire on a well-invested $800k in my country.
I don't mean retire at retirement age when you get the national pension too. I mean retire at any age and withdraw a sensible amount so that it keeps growing.
He is what he is. He's egotistical, but what do you expect of someone obsessed with his physique and popularity? So is Schwarzenegger and people love him. Johnson doesn't shy away from self-effacing roles, and I like his ability not to take himself too seriously. He always turns in the performance he's paid for. He is always promoting himself, which I find annoying but I just don't pay attention to him.
I think he's nailing the assignment, but if anything, he's facing audience fatigue, and people are just not excited to see him any more. I'd be there for a new Riddick movie, though, and he's great in comedic roles. I honestly can't remember if I saw the last Fast and Furious movie, and I don't care.
Oops. He's also interchangeable with Vin Diesel. I thought about Fast and Furious and got my meatheads confused half way through. Vin is the same but takes his work less seriously.
The last Fast and the Furious movie sucked. Everyone felt like they were being held at gunpoint to be in that film except Momoa and Cena, and I think both were fresh to the franchaise. Their scenes were the only worthwhile ones.
That said, it ended on a cliffhanger so they kind of need to make at least one more.
The early ones are pretty good. They start to really go off the rails around 5 or 6, but they were still kind of good fun action with cars. Starting at like, 7 or 8, they started really dunking.
Probably the most annoying bit is how literally every villain ends up becoming a redeemed hero, its stupid.
The first one is fantastic. 2 is also very good. Toyko Drift is great if you can get over a 24 year old actor playing a high schooler. 5 is a good as an over the top action movie. The rest get progressively worse the newer they get.
I don't think it's really about the movies. He always knew his success was temporary and just pumped out movies while he was still getting high paying roles. A lot of them were very entertaining, but everyone knew there was limits to how long that formula could keep going.
His public persona suffered quite a hit after the whole DCU thing I think. He really wanted to be Black Adam, but that character starts off as a villain. That was an issue, because Dwayne Johnson always has "I don't lose any fights" in his contracts. So obviously he can't be a movie villain, because the villain isn't supposed to win. So they skipped straight to where he is a hero, without the build-up, and everyone learned that his contracts require him to never lose a fight, which makes him come off as an ass, unlike his public profile prior to that.
Then he stages some kind of DCU coup which I'm not sure how he has the chops to do, and spends a lot of political capital on getting Henry Cavill back as Superman, but immediately after the whole DCU leadership is upended and all of that is scrapped. I don't know how that affected his industry connections, but I doubt it was in a positive way.
TL;DR: Everyone knew Dwayne Johnson wouldn't last, including himself, which is why so many movies with him were pumped out while he was still on top. Then he lost some popularity among fans and execs due to some DCU stuff.
roided up meatball, he the ellen degeneres of movie stars. rock immediately, lowers the quality of any movies hes in,. and likely he is catering to the lowest denominators of audiences, chinese people love to watch dumb things western actors do in movies.
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thejoker954@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 17d
And he made a great confused meatball. Until he became obsessed with his "brand".
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
Confused meatball is a strange basis for a brand.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 17d
The dude knew he was typecasted but grew rich doing it. Can't really fault him for taking on work offered and promoting the shit out of it. I only wish other former wrestlers like Bautista were offered more roles, I really liked his role in Blade Runner 2049.
_druid@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 17d
Bautista is great in Knock At The Cabin
Saapas@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 17d
Bautista was great in the TV show See
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 17d
I really like that guy. I guess he's been busy with marvel.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 16d
Bautista's getting a ton of roles. Some of his movies have been pretty good.
I of course am the kind of weirdo who actually liked In the Lost Lands.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
but he doesnt get a-list roles like DWAYNE does, and large contracts.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
dave actually is an actor, rock has no interest in even improving his range.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 17d
Idc let the guy live his best life. He can be passibly funny, I'm not watching these movies to be intellectually simulated.
SpacePanda@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 17d
Except hes a fascist.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 17d
Is he? Well fuck. Why?
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 17d
Rich people tend towards entitlement then progress to full fascism. It is a easy trap to fall into with having your ass kissed 24/7 and other already fascists slowly lead you that way.
It sucks, but human nature.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
I know there are well-known conservative Hollywood types, but it seems most in that crowd lean left. They're all pretty rich. I've also done fundraising in solid blue areas where you had to walk 5 minutes down someone's driveway to knock on the door of their mansion.
So no, it's not "human nature". That's an excuse the greedier ones us to justify their selfishness.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
The more outspoken ones are left leaning. Which honestly doesn't say much these days. The right leaning ones not being directly paid off know that Trump II (hell, even Trump I) ain't good PR. The ones left leaning probably need to defy their PR to speak out to begin with.
Overall, being rich means the system works for you, which tends to boost nationalism. Nationalism without actually giving back to your country is a surefire road to fascism. It's just too easy by that point to isolate and not create empathy in that scenario (the best preventative measure to fascism, and most kinds of prejudice in general).
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
In both of my examples, I can think of instances where a person is or is likely left leaning. Granted those small populations, but they're more sizable than you'd think. Some of us found people willing to write a $10,000 check on a whim (I was not that lucky). These people were very much not Republicans. Saying something is due to "human nature" means pretty everybody does it. If anything, of the groups I'm talking about, I'd say far more are quiet than loud. They vote and donate Democrat but don't necessarily make it their entire personality.
I don't know about nationalism being boosted by being rich. If anything, these people have more interest in global investments and wider view of the world than people without a direct reason to be so. I think that might make some of them more realistic about nationalism. I also see plenty of it among those much less fortunate - it's emotional thing heavily inculcated by wider society. Questioning is still largely socially unacceptable.
SpacePanda@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 17d
Hes been quoted saying "today's cancle culture, woke culture really bothers me" I'm paraphrasing. He says he feels talking about politics is bad for him. I get not wanting to talk about politics, but, if youre not for trump you would come out and say it because no one would ever want it to be a question. And hes just a dick in general.
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 17d
This sounds like a reasonable take to me. Not wanting to publicly talk about politics makes a person a fascist?
SpacePanda@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 16d
Saying you dont like woke culture is very indicative. Very understandable not to want to talk about politics, but, with orange Mussolini in charge you would want no confusion where you stand unless you support him.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 15d
funny you should mention rock being a rightie, alot of WWE wrestlers are magaty, KANE, undertaker, stone cold. dont know about cenas leanings. as thier audience is often on the right anyways.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 16d
I feel like professional entertainers (who aren't hateful bigots) can have a valid point about dislike 'woke culture', that's completely separate from "politics".
The culture wars are basically integral to entertainment these days. Media companies are using rage bait to promote their movies.
It's easy for us anons to throw salt when we can just disengage as our mental health requires.
I don't know actually if The Rock is a facsist, but barring real evidence I think you're watering down the term here.
nullspace@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17d
There are two reasons someone wouldn't disclose their personal politics. One is they are in danger. The other is they are the danger.
Jako302@feddit.org · 5 pts · 16d
He is in danger, or rather his career is in danger, if he voices his political opinion, no matter what direction he takes.
That doesn't disprove the second option mind you. But wanting to be left the fuck alone in the current hellscape that is american politics doesn't make you a fascist. It at most makes him a coward.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
If he said something in that ballpark, it's stupid either way. Especially if he broke that anyway because he had to be concerned about "woke culture".
I guess I'd need more context, but The Rock isn't exactly someone I feel is being constantly prodded on politics, at least from interviews he chooses to take.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
if its R his career would be dead(like chris "cant keep his mouth shut" pratt.), and he loves being a movie star. there is some leeway if he leans the other way.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
there is speculation he leans R though, but he know well enough not to stir the pot, much like SINESE dint until recently.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 17d
Guess I shouldn't be surprised, all of these people put on a fake demeanor for the cameras and it's not authentic.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
And his head got so big he practically had to have the DCEU written around him. He refused to be a villain in the Shazam movie and demanded his own Black Adam film where he's more of an anti-hero instead of straight up bad guy who defeats the bad guy
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
oh yea everyone was criticizing DWANYE for the black adam movie, and the shazam has its own crazy going on, the "shazam guy" turns out to be a looney person too.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 15d
he sounds like republican, just like i suspected he was mentioned of being one in the subs.
SpacePanda@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 14d
Anyone who uses the term woke culture is immediately suspect, and hes a dick on top of it so sounds like it.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 14d
hes also an attention whore, loves the movie star lifestyle, i think thats why hes quite lowkey about it, im not surprised he is one, WWE wrestlers are pretty conservative. i think NIA jax was another one.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
So much for "keeping politics to myself"
coolie4@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 17d
The Rock is cooked.
With the exception of Polynesian-specific roles like in Moana, Bautista can play every character the Rock can, and so many more.
protist@retrofed.com · 36 pts · 17d
"Dwayne Johnson's net worth is estimated at $800 million as of 2026."
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 17d
Sigh, I wish I was so well cooked.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 17d
I would settle for half as well cooked.
protist@retrofed.com · 14 pts · 17d
Let's be honest, 0.1% of that would be life changing for anyone reading this
huppakee@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 17d
0,1% of $800M = $800K, life changing for sure.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 17d
That sure makes it sound like 800 million is a lot more money than any one individual should be worth while folks are homeless, starving, and dying without care.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 16d
Someone who's better with money than me could probably retire on a well-invested $800k in my country.
I don't mean retire at retirement age when you get the national pension too. I mean retire at any age and withdraw a sensible amount so that it keeps growing.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
Even 8k for me would help me get out of my current gutter. 80k would be life changing money, even if I still would need to keep job searching.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 17d
Yeah, I cpuld be a raw version of that and be fine.
RustyShackleford@piefed.social · 9 pts · 17d
Most of us would be delighted if the wish were for a simple hug.
Steve@startrek.website · 2 pts · 17d
More like “well done”
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
Yes and where does one to go to become "cooked", just so I know how not to end up there of course.
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 17d
Can you smell that the Rock is cooked?
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17d
Bautista would not have worked in The Other Guys. He's too good an actor.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 17d
He doesn’t even act. He’s just there
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 17d
Rock slop
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 17d
Not to be confused with Slop Rock, the musical genre.
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 8 pts · 17d
The slow fall of The Rock is painful. Maybe because I haven't actually watched enough of him to know why people think he deserves it.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 17d
He is what he is. He's egotistical, but what do you expect of someone obsessed with his physique and popularity? So is Schwarzenegger and people love him. Johnson doesn't shy away from self-effacing roles, and I like his ability not to take himself too seriously. He always turns in the performance he's paid for. He is always promoting himself, which I find annoying but I just don't pay attention to him.
I think he's nailing the assignment, but if anything, he's facing audience fatigue, and people are just not excited to see him any more.
I'd be there for a new Riddick movie, though, andhe's great in comedic roles. I honestly can't remember if I saw the last Fast and Furious movie, and I don't care.Edit: confused my meatheads.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 17d
I'm sorry, do you think Dwayne Johnson played Riddick?
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 27 pts · 17d
Dwayne “Vinn The Diesel” Rock
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
I'm partial to Danhausen's "Rock the Dwayne Johnson"
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 17d
Oops. He's also interchangeable with Vin Diesel. I thought about Fast and Furious and got my meatheads confused half way through. Vin is the same but takes his work less seriously.
I've also had a couple of mimosas today.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 17d
Jason Mimosas?
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 17d
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 17d
I can't remember the difference between the two either.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 17d
The last Fast and the Furious movie sucked. Everyone felt like they were being held at gunpoint to be in that film except Momoa and Cena, and I think both were fresh to the franchaise. Their scenes were the only worthwhile ones.
That said, it ended on a cliffhanger so they kind of need to make at least one more.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17d
Are there any that don't suck? I never saw any.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 17d
The early ones are pretty good. They start to really go off the rails around 5 or 6, but they were still kind of good fun action with cars. Starting at like, 7 or 8, they started really dunking.
Probably the most annoying bit is how literally every villain ends up becoming a redeemed hero, its stupid.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
Didn't they literally go into space?
AmyAye@nord.pub · 2 pts · 16d
Yes.
In a car.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 16d
lol, next you know interstaller travel with a car, and then a multiversal arc.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 16d
There were so many memes about them doing it in the future that it was basically fan service at that point lol
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17d
The first one is fantastic. 2 is also very good. Toyko Drift is great if you can get over a 24 year old actor playing a high schooler. 5 is a good as an over the top action movie. The rest get progressively worse the newer they get.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
I'll give some a try. Thanks all for the input. It seems I was being excessively negative about the series.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17d
Tokyo Drift is great.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
I actually enjoyed the first two as casual action flicks.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17d
I don't think it's really about the movies. He always knew his success was temporary and just pumped out movies while he was still getting high paying roles. A lot of them were very entertaining, but everyone knew there was limits to how long that formula could keep going.
His public persona suffered quite a hit after the whole DCU thing I think. He really wanted to be Black Adam, but that character starts off as a villain. That was an issue, because Dwayne Johnson always has "I don't lose any fights" in his contracts. So obviously he can't be a movie villain, because the villain isn't supposed to win. So they skipped straight to where he is a hero, without the build-up, and everyone learned that his contracts require him to never lose a fight, which makes him come off as an ass, unlike his public profile prior to that.
Then he stages some kind of DCU coup which I'm not sure how he has the chops to do, and spends a lot of political capital on getting Henry Cavill back as Superman, but immediately after the whole DCU leadership is upended and all of that is scrapped. I don't know how that affected his industry connections, but I doubt it was in a positive way.
TL;DR: Everyone knew Dwayne Johnson wouldn't last, including himself, which is why so many movies with him were pumped out while he was still on top. Then he lost some popularity among fans and execs due to some DCU stuff.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
hes a movie star, always wanted the attention. while bautista is an actual actor, and cena is trying to be one.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16d
Guessing 3 of them might be The Rundown, Jumanji, Walking Tall, and im not sure.... Maybe the one is Jumanji 2?
Haven't seen anything with him in it recently. Although I did watch Red One
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
I think one is Journey to the Center of the Earth?
Hikermick@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16d
It would be awesome if he decided one day he wanted to be taken seriously as an actor and broke out of these typecast roles ala Tom Hanks
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 16d
I want to see The Rock in a remake of The Rock.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16d
The Rock rocks the Rock rocking out in theatres near your rockin' community.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 15d
remember he was in the MUMMY movie as a bad CGI scorpion.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 2 pts · 16d
The Rock as Brian Johnson in AC/DC the movie.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 17d
I fucking loved the Journey movies though idk why they stopped
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 17d
Guess they stopped believing
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 17d
They failed to hold on to that feeling
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
The last thing I saw him in was Ballers.
The best part about Ballers was Rob Corddry.
Kowowow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 17d
I know it's wrong but I got strong rock in the jungle vibes from the predator with backpack movie
SatyrSack@quokk.au · 2 pts · 17d
The robot backpack?
Kowowow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 16d
The newest movie I think from 2025 maybe
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 16d
roided up meatball, he the ellen degeneres of movie stars. rock immediately, lowers the quality of any movies hes in,. and likely he is catering to the lowest denominators of audiences, chinese people love to watch dumb things western actors do in movies.
M137@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 16d
Why add the first one that doesn't fit? The shirts are almost identical on the other three, just ppst those and have it make sense.