I specifically add my location to the search when im looking for local stuff otherwise I want international results. So on google I'd search bottle store but on ddg I search bottle store auckland [suburb] because it doesnt know where i am. Or I use the !maps bang to search on google maps.
I haven't had much problems with it? Can't really remember the last time I felt the need to try a different backup search engine. And, usually, if I did, I wouldn't find what I was looking for there, either.
Really? For some reason, I really prefer DDG's results over Google's. Too much SEO spam for Google now (especially with AI).
DDG has this Reddit+ stack overflow thing that I quite like!
For generic factual stuff, I default to wikipedia. For opinions, it tends to be Reddit/Lemmy. If I have questions that are more of "tell me why my understanding of XYZ is wrong", then LLMs (the big ones) tend to be quite useful (yeah yeah, hate on me for this as much as you want).
Duck duck go is made a LOT better if you specify a date range before SEO became as stupid as it did. AIslop just made the seo bullshit articles/pages go from bad to fubar.
Or just having them left to right like a sane person. (Or... I guess you could be from Japan or some other country where you write top to bottom... But it's in English!)
Librewolf + Kagi. I've looked at SearXNG but the Kagi search results 'just work' and let's me tweak it how I want, so I haven't felt motivated to bother with the deployment.
Ecosia and Qwant is where it's at - they are creating an independent search index to be able to ditch Bing and Google. And Ecosia is trying to save the planet and have so far planted more than 250 million trees - just an added benefit.
As far as I know, some users (French and German?) use the independent index and the rest are still on Google and Bing, however it’s been a while since I have heard news about it, so that might have changed.
I tend to have safe search off, because I'm a grown up. But it can be kind of annoying to search for a completely innocuous term, only for the image results to somehow be rammed full of people getting rammed full.
Ecosia.org is a good search engine, right now they still use google/bing for most of their queries but are developing their own search engine. Plus they are very ethical, green energy, profits go to projects helping nature, option to turn off AI results/summaries, the list goes on..
Ecosia is not that great for privacy "Your IP address and search terms are automatically shared with our search partners, Microsoft Bing or Google, when you search."
https://www.ecosia.org/privacy
No. Qwant always used its own index but it used Bing in addition as their own index wasn't finished. However, since 2025 it only uses Staan, the index developed in cooperation with Ecosia.
"Last year, French privacy-focused search engine Qwant struck a joint venture with German non-profit search engine Ecosia to develop a European search index. Called European Search Perspective (EUSP), the JV now aims to serve around 50% of French queries and 33% of German queries by the end of the year"
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chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 18d
I love the idea of duckduckgo but man the results suck
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 52 pts · 18d
It's extra funny because DDG is (mostly) Bing.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 18d
Its come along way since being mostly bing
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 18d
Does it index its own data? Bing apparently sucks at that part, especially becoming filled with AI as farm results and slop videos.
chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
Oh, so it's great at porn then
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 29 pts · 18d
Ddg results are so good. I dont get the hate on them. I try to go back to Google and the results are unusable.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 18d
DDg for me is annoying because it isn't localised when I search something.
That's my own fault though for not sharing my location.
I use it for everything
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 18d
Ddg has a dropdown for your country
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 18d
I specifically add my location to the search when im looking for local stuff otherwise I want international results. So on google I'd search bottle store but on ddg I search bottle store auckland [suburb] because it doesnt know where i am. Or I use the !maps bang to search on google maps.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 18d
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 25 pts · 18d
I haven't had much problems with it? Can't really remember the last time I felt the need to try a different backup search engine. And, usually, if I did, I wouldn't find what I was looking for there, either.
wraekscadu@vargar.org · 14 pts · 18d
Really? For some reason, I really prefer DDG's results over Google's. Too much SEO spam for Google now (especially with AI).
DDG has this Reddit+ stack overflow thing that I quite like!
For generic factual stuff, I default to wikipedia. For opinions, it tends to be Reddit/Lemmy. If I have questions that are more of "tell me why my understanding of XYZ is wrong", then LLMs (the big ones) tend to be quite useful (yeah yeah, hate on me for this as much as you want).
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
It's Google ten years ago, which was already shit. They need to go further back on the timeline.
charokol@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 18d
Sadly, this is my experience too
hansolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 18d
Starpage, Qwant, and Brave search are all out there, just waiting for you.
imadethis@fedinsfw.app · 3 pts · 18d
Duck duck go is made a LOT better if you specify a date range before SEO became as stupid as it did. AIslop just made the seo bullshit articles/pages go from bad to fubar.
Eiri@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 18d
I caved and switched when Google started giving me a full large chat window (not even just a small AI overview) by default when I ran a search.
StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 18d
If you dont want any ai switch over to noai.duckduckgo.com took me to long to see that it exsists.
Eiri@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 18d
I meant even I switched from Google to DuckDuckGo. DDG asks you about whether and how often you want AI answers
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 18d
And they show ads too.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 18d
Yeah I didn’t like DDG either. Kagi is worth the price to have a better google-free experience,
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 18d
Just try ducai
sompreno@lemmy.zip · -6 pts · 18d
Brave search over ddg
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 18d
Brave owns an ad company. I trust them as much as I trust Google.
sompreno@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 18d
Sure but duck duck go is bing with a proxy and has been known in the past to make acceptions for microsoft
Brave search is a fully independed search engine
At the if the day both services are closed source software from for profit companies
DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml · 47 pts · 18d
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 52 pts · 18d
WTF is this order?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 18d
Order 66
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 14 pts · 18d
It's a 2x2 grid of vertical 2-panel comics. Could be made clearer by dividing them with thicker lines.
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 6 pts · 18d
Or just having them left to right like a sane person. (Or... I guess you could be from Japan or some other country where you write top to bottom... But it's in English!)
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 3 pts · 18d
Clearly. The questions is... WTF?
DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 18d
Haha yeah it's like having a stroke 😅 I just found it online
melvisntnormal@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 18d
It's the 4-in-1 special
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 18d
Not the old logo... </3
cute_noker@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 18d
I got a stroke from this. Thanks.
pigup@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 18d
self host use VPN etc
h_ramus@piefed.social · 5 pts · 18d
I found Degoog to be easier to deploy for my non-technical skills. A docker container and I was done.
Nullpwn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
So is searxng, lmao
h_ramus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 13d
Can very well be but wasn't my experience. I also prefer the visual layout of degoog.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 18d
Librewolf + Kagi. I've looked at SearXNG but the Kagi search results 'just work' and let's me tweak it how I want, so I haven't felt motivated to bother with the deployment.
drath@lemmy.drath.ru · 24 pts · 18d
Who tf ever says "google is the best"? Most chrome users are "I just want my shit to work and move on with my day" type.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 18d
Tech bros maybe? Or people that work at Alphabet/Google?
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 17d
DDG is a Bing frontend though.
vandsjov@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 17d
Ecosia and Qwant is where it's at - they are creating an independent search index to be able to ditch Bing and Google. And Ecosia is trying to save the planet and have so far planted more than 250 million trees - just an added benefit.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 17d
if they are not using Bing anymore maybe i can configure to use them in SearXNG
vandsjov@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 16d
As far as I know, some users (French and German?) use the independent index and the rest are still on Google and Bing, however it’s been a while since I have heard news about it, so that might have changed.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 16d
Alr
Eggman@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 17d
EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app · 11 pts · 18d
Bing is still the best search engine for porn
djdarren@piefed.social · 7 pts · 18d
Almost too good, I find.
I tend to have safe search off, because I'm a grown up. But it can be kind of annoying to search for a completely innocuous term, only for the image results to somehow be rammed full of people getting rammed full.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 18d
Can a scientist plz confirm?
Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 18d
Hello. I beat my meat like an unruly son. Bing is still the king of porn results.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 18d
This was a great comment + username combo to wake me up. lmao
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
and DDG by proxy
dnub@piefed.social · 11 pts · 18d
Ecosia.org is a good search engine, right now they still use google/bing for most of their queries but are developing their own search engine. Plus they are very ethical, green energy, profits go to projects helping nature, option to turn off AI results/summaries, the list goes on..
Eggman@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 17d
Ecosia is not that great for privacy "Your IP address and search terms are automatically shared with our search partners, Microsoft Bing or Google, when you search." https://www.ecosia.org/privacy
dnub@piefed.social · 2 pts · 15d
As soon as they have their own search engine we can hope the privacy will be better. Nevertheless the other reasons to use ecosia still stand
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 18d
This is accurately accurate.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18d
The most accurate kind of accuracy.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 18d
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 18d
Qwant it is.
SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 18d
Last time i checked it was powered by bing also ?
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 18d
No. Qwant always used its own index but it used Bing in addition as their own index wasn't finished. However, since 2025 it only uses Staan, the index developed in cooperation with Ecosia.
kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 17d
source?
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 17d
https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/06/qwant-and-ecosia-debut-staan-a-european-search-index-that-aims-to-take-on-big-tech/
kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 17d
"Last year, French privacy-focused search engine Qwant struck a joint venture with German non-profit search engine Ecosia to develop a European search index. Called European Search Perspective (EUSP), the JV now aims to serve around 50% of French queries and 33% of German queries by the end of the year"
so not all queries yet unfortunately
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 17d
That's because you're not using it.
kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 17d
i am tho
swiftywizard@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 17d
Better have Kagi and Searx in there
Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 18d
Low and mid have the browser above the search engine, high breaks consistency with the engine over the browser 😔
Eh_I@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
Oh bless your heart