EDIT: Also, would it be possible to get a bot to post the official EndeavourOS news? I mean, we all already read the RSS, but just in case someone doesn't. ;)
Where did this stereotype actually come from? I'm genuinely curious. Because Windows users wouldn't know Arch from Ubuntu and to them, all Linux users are "I use Linux btw" types. And I don't think I've seen Arch users just randomly telling people they use Arch in Linux spaces. But it must've come from somewhere.
IDK if it's a thing elsewhere but it's been a running joke on Reddit and Lemmy for years mostly because Arch was the more popular, bare bones distro, i.e. you had to set it up yourself without a guided installer like Mint or Ubuntu, so was used as a signal to be like "I know what I'm talking about".
Ah that definitely makes sense. I think by the time I was experimenting with distros, things had probably moved on a bit. I can say from experience that using Arch just requires the ability to read, really. But it was probably more hardcore in its earlier days when the wiki wasn't as well formed yet.
Yeah, much of the documentation on the arch wiki was written by enthusiasts who did the legwork and drew maps along the way so we now know where to go.
I know this one: It came from the Arch users. No, really, they couldn't just help to not tell anyone. It's not just a stereotype, it was really that common.
Now why they couldn't help, is guessing, but I guess it is the first distribution, that people take pride in to install, after they tried Ubuntu.
Arch was the "elite" distro. Most people who weren't already very comfortable with the terminal were even able to use arch properly. Stuff like archinstall didn't exist back then and those that did were way inferior than what we have today. So using arch was like a "badge of honor" of sorts for many people who thought using it made them superior to disgusting ubuntu or mint users with their GUI installer.
It's just classic gatekeeping that you'll see in basically everything that comes with a passionate community.
I heard someone explain that it wasn't really that popular some time ago, so they would just say "I use arch btw" to get people to know the distro and apparently it worked
Both NixOS and Gentoo are also addictive as hell, you poke just a couple of things — the next thing you know it's 3 AM two weeks later and you are recompiling your whole system trying to make it work with Wild linker or something along those lines, laughing maniacally.
I already knew Linux. What it made me learn is systemd. And I'll say it without shame, I like systemd. I know it doesn't follow the Unix philosophy but it's just semantics.
honestly, systemd isn't that bad. I'm finishing some free labs for the CompTIA Linux+ sysadmin course and learning how to compose bash scripts into services is going to be great for my homelab.
I completely ditched windows at home in early 2020 and used fedora until last year when I took the plunge into NixOS. I knew how to do things in Linux, but I wanted to understand the underlying system structure. NixOS helped pull back the veil a bit.
For me, it falls into the pragmatic gap between idealism and usability. Is it perfect? Most certainly not. Does it serve a good portion of use cases? Apparently. Does it work as a more-or-less de facto standard to provide a common platform for other things to build on? Evidently.
If we could codify the resulting standards and assumptions and create a more modular ecosystem to plug that same gap, that would still be a lot of work, and at some point, most people just wanna build the damn house instead of overengineering the foundation.
Perfect is the enemy of good, and systemd has to be good enough.
Winning the game is accomplished by playing all your cards and being the first to run out of cards. You play a card by putting one down that matches the last card played by either color or number. There's other special cards too, like draw x cards, reverse direction, wild cards, etc.
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the_beber@feddit.org · 38 pts · 21d
I use purple Arch btw
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 21d
👍
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 21d
Come join us in https://lemmy.zip/c/endeavouros
ekky@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 21d
Just dropping a formatted link: !endeavouros@lemmy.zip And I'll see ya'll there. :)
EDIT: Also, would it be possible to get a bot to post the official EndeavourOS news? I mean, we all already read the RSS, but just in case someone doesn't. ;)
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21d
That’s a great idea. I’m new here so not 100% on how to spin up a bot; but will look into it
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21d
Hey, we have a mod tools page where you can manage your communities including setting up RSS feeds! https://modtools.lemmy.zip/
Give me a message if you need a hand using it :)
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21d
Oh most perfect! ty Rick !
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21d
Done! New updates from Endeavour are now bot posted
ekky@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 21d
Damn that was fast! You're awesome.
Sludge@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 21d
I understand that the community is just a few days old, but there's gotta be enough EndeavorOS content outside of the existing one post.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 21d
You have to start somewhere...feel free to start a thread
thestrike@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 21d
joined
ignotum@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21d
I used endeavourOS btw
I use arch btw
mecen@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 20d
Green arch NO2 is the way
pr06lefs@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 21d
still use the arch wiki. I'm on nixos btw
Aneb@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20d
I'm on Ubuntu and I user Archwiki sometimes
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 20 pts · 21d
I don't use Arch, BTW.
fdnomad@programming.dev · 14 pts · 21d
I'll be honest, all of the Arch memes I've been seeing lately feel like reposts from 5-10 years ago
Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 21d
Where did this stereotype actually come from? I'm genuinely curious. Because Windows users wouldn't know Arch from Ubuntu and to them, all Linux users are "I use Linux btw" types. And I don't think I've seen Arch users just randomly telling people they use Arch in Linux spaces. But it must've come from somewhere.
ratel@mander.xyz · 16 pts · 21d
IDK if it's a thing elsewhere but it's been a running joke on Reddit and Lemmy for years mostly because Arch was the more popular, bare bones distro, i.e. you had to set it up yourself without a guided installer like Mint or Ubuntu, so was used as a signal to be like "I know what I'm talking about".
Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 21d
Ah that definitely makes sense. I think by the time I was experimenting with distros, things had probably moved on a bit. I can say from experience that using Arch just requires the ability to read, really. But it was probably more hardcore in its earlier days when the wiki wasn't as well formed yet.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 20d
Yeah, much of the documentation on the arch wiki was written by enthusiasts who did the legwork and drew maps along the way so we now know where to go.
mogoh@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 21d
I know this one: It came from the Arch users. No, really, they couldn't just help to not tell anyone. It's not just a stereotype, it was really that common.
Now why they couldn't help, is guessing, but I guess it is the first distribution, that people take pride in to install, after they tried Ubuntu.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 21d
Arch was the "elite" distro. Most people who weren't already very comfortable with the terminal were even able to use arch properly. Stuff like archinstall didn't exist back then and those that did were way inferior than what we have today. So using arch was like a "badge of honor" of sorts for many people who thought using it made them superior to disgusting ubuntu or mint users with their GUI installer.
It's just classic gatekeeping that you'll see in basically everything that comes with a passionate community.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 20d
I heard someone explain that it wasn't really that popular some time ago, so they would just say "I use arch btw" to get people to know the distro and apparently it worked
Or it's just bullshit and i'il never know
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21d
I use Linux btw.
I don't really promote nixos unless it's for comedic purposes
TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.org · 5 pts · 21d
I use Gentoo. I very much warn you against using Gentoo.
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 21d
Same for nix. It's great and awesome, but you need to know that for 6months it will be pain.
TwilightKiddy@scribe.disroot.org · 5 pts · 21d
Both NixOS and Gentoo are also addictive as hell, you poke just a couple of things — the next thing you know it's 3 AM two weeks later and you are recompiling your whole system trying to make it work with Wild linker or something along those lines, laughing maniacally.
pech@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20d
Using NixOS was when I finally felt like I started to understand Linux. I don't think I could go back lol
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 20d
I already knew Linux. What it made me learn is systemd. And I'll say it without shame, I like systemd. I know it doesn't follow the Unix philosophy but it's just semantics.
pech@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17d
honestly, systemd isn't that bad. I'm finishing some free labs for the CompTIA Linux+ sysadmin course and learning how to compose bash scripts into services is going to be great for my homelab.
I completely ditched windows at home in early 2020 and used fedora until last year when I took the plunge into NixOS. I knew how to do things in Linux, but I wanted to understand the underlying system structure. NixOS helped pull back the veil a bit.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 20d
For me, it falls into the pragmatic gap between idealism and usability. Is it perfect? Most certainly not. Does it serve a good portion of use cases? Apparently. Does it work as a more-or-less de facto standard to provide a common platform for other things to build on? Evidently.
If we could codify the resulting standards and assumptions and create a more modular ecosystem to plug that same gap, that would still be a lot of work, and at some point, most people just wanna build the damn house instead of overengineering the foundation.
Perfect is the enemy of good, and systemd has to be good enough.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21d
Meanwhile in Debianland....
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 21d
Just do it ironically and talk about what an old geezer you are
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21d
I use the red swirl too btw
farvascw@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 20d
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20d
Tried. Nice place, but i won't live in it.
farvascw@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 20d
That's cool, everybody has their preferences
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 20d
I prefer the original CachyOS, Manjaro (might change, if stuff gets really bad on my own end).
paw@feddit.org · 4 pts · 21d
So true. I use arch btw. And now I have a nice hand of cards ;)
northertech@fedia.io · 3 pts · 21d
Just made it through a technical interview without managing to say that I use Arch, btw. It is harder than you think.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org · 2 pts · 20d
Does this get posted every day now?
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 20d
24 more times to go.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 21d
What kind of a card game is UNO and why is drawing 25 bad?
feddylemmy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 21d
Winning the game is accomplished by playing all your cards and being the first to run out of cards. You play a card by putting one down that matches the last card played by either color or number. There's other special cards too, like draw x cards, reverse direction, wild cards, etc.
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 21d
Ah, so in this situation, you are asked to draw 25 new cards, virtually making you lose. 🤣
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 21d
You have to get rid of the cards
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 21d
Thanks!
jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 21d
Selection bias left the chat and apparently ceased to exist as a result.
flameleaf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
yes $(uname -o)Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
just give me the fucking cards, asshole :P
distal@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 21d
I use Manjaro, btw
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 21d
I use some joke distro that names their releases after Toy Story characters LOL.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 21d
I switched to Arch, when my last distro broke, but it still runs
pacman -Ss cardholderValmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 21d
Shouldn't that be "draw 1" 😋