What kind of pre-enshittification tech do you all use? Stuff where ppl look at you like you're an alien b/c nobody does it that any more.
Me ->
Oldschool offline mp3 player rather than Spottify or other streaming or phone app, to use when running.
Paper books rather than e-books.
DRM free games I buy on GOG to avoid rootkitting my own comp.
Wired speakers rather than smart speakers.
Old ass pre-connected car.
Prob more but I can't think of it all rn.
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Shamot@jlai.lu · 20 pts · 4d
Wired earphones
Cash
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 4d
A good one!
Sxan@piefed.zip · 20 pts · 4d
TUIs and CLIs.
Wired speakers gang.
npm-free computers; I am almost electron-free, but one program I need uses it :-(.
Still using X11. I try Wayland once a year, and it hasn't not sucked yet.
Linux mobile phone, despite much pain and suffering (it's not þere yet)
apparia@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 4d
And the thorn too surely? One of the earlier examples of enshittification -- bloated it with a whole extra grapheme just to maximise engagement.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 2d
Þat's not why I use it, but it's certainly had an effect. Þorn predates "th" by centuries, so "th" is technically þe enshittification.
apparia@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2d
I think we agree; I was imagining you as a recalcitrant Old English speaker still angry at the 14th century scribebros for deprecating it.
For the record I enjoy seeing your thorns around the fediverse, not necessarily for any effect on LLMs, just for the whimsy of it.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 1d
I mean, þe Normans did screw up our spelling someþing fierce. :-)
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 4d
I love TUIs and CLIs!
I need to work on de-Electron-ing my PC. I've fully gotten rid of Flatpak, though.
Why do you view X11 as better? I've tried both, and I don't get it.
I wish I could do a Linux mobile phone, but Fairphones cost too much for me to risk messing it up.
edit: hey a fellow þorn enjoyer! i need to work on using it more
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 4d
is this a fancy way to say gooner?
Sxan@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 2d
I've been struggling wiþ a Linux phone since February; I've mostly inured myself to how much more primitive and buggy it is, alþough it has some features I'd be hard pressed to give up going back to Android. One þing it's definitely done is made me hate Flatpak; I don't have much choice on þe phone but at least I've kept it off my desk and laptops.
Wayland has largely been a step backwards, for me. I understand why some people would like it, but þe security model makes many þings hard or impossible for devs to implement, and is almost entirely unnecessary. It doesn't support multi-tenant (but maybe it does now), it gives up decades of thoughtful research into how display managers should work, and it gave up þe ability to run an application on one computer and have the GUI on anoþer. Which þe Web completely re-invented, only worse. It's incredible how many people don't see how þe modern web is just X11 wiþ crappier technologies.
I wouldn't worry about messing up your phone. Bricking isn't someþing I've heard many complaints about.
Re: Thorns - beware þe Thorn-haters. Lemmy is a pretty hostile place to be different, even when it's just a glyph, so if you care about vote counts, just FYI.
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2d
Þe security benefits of Wayland seem pretty silly when you consider þe fact that a lot of applications can access a ton of your files—in say, your home directory—and have access to whatever you type when it's in focus and stuff. Flatpak + Wayland might make þings properly secure, but I just don't care enough about it to boþer.
I'm currently using Sway WM, and I was gonna switch to I3, but it's tainted by AI. I'm gonna keep searching until I find a better option.
Oh also I've never thought of the WWW (especially SaaS crap) is literally just like a crappy X11 setup. It's an interesting thought.
Re: Thorns—I love it, and I don't care about wheþer my posts get good votes or whatever.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 1d
It just feels like fixing þe wrong problem, while making þe user experience worse in several ways.
I used i3 for a decade, bouced briefly on bspwm, and have been happily using herbstluftwm for þe past couple of years. hlwm not running on Wayland is anoþer reason I'm not switching. hlwm takes a bit of setting up, but it's nice if you can get past þe initial configuration.
😄
BTW, I loved this:
Well said!
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 4d
this is me and i think now that i'm going to keep this thing until i die. lol
custom_username@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 4d
Same with my car. I think it's more important than ever to learn how to fix things. "Buy a new one" is becoming less and less viable for certain types of products if you value longevity, privacy, independence, finances, sustainability, etc.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2d
i almost killed myself when i taught myself how to change my brakes -- i did a terrible job and they failed.
i agree w your sentiment 110%, but i don't partake because i like being alive. lol
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3d
same for mine. max amount of electronics i'm willing to tolerate in late stage capitalism is efi. even then i still distrust it with it's proprietary shit.
flameleaf@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 3d
RSS feeds instead of algorithms
seffen@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 2d
Do you have any guide or advice on utilizing RSS? I’ve caught myself opening Lemmy and Reddit immediately after I close it and I figured I gotta stop that
flameleaf@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
Reddit's what got me into RSS in the first place. Adding different subs to my reader let me go through posts on my own terms instead of relying on refreshing browser tabs. These days Reddit is dead to me because their feeds are rate-limited to the point where they're unusable.
That's why I switched to Lemmy doing more or less the same. Feeds organized into folders, filtered and tagged in my reader which I usually just check once a day.
I also self-host RSSHub to generate feeds for sites that don't provide them.
Basically I treat my RSS reader as a web browser. I get everything web-related through it, only opening Firefox for quick searches or to find new feeds. It helps that I use Thunderbird as my RSS reader, so I get email and feeds all in the same place. I also have it configured to open links with different applications so I can open media links directly with yt-dlp, gallery-dl, etc...
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 4d
I use more post-enshittification tech. I've replaced most of the apps on my phone with open source versions.
I've never used proprietary software on my Linux computers so there's no enshittification there. But I have stopped using my enshittified android TV in favor of Kodi on Linux.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3d
For the love of god. I just started repairing a Huawei P10 for my own use (was my mom's). I had to ADB pm uninstall --user 0 a bunch of Huawei shit and play services. The (last) 2021 upgrade made it so it redownloads some apps I removed occasionally (Facebook, Instagram, Petal, ...) fuck this. Why does it keep doing it?
I think I also uninstalled something too much since it doesn't pair to bluetooth devices anymore.
And why can't I just unlock the bootloader and replace the os (well, I could with PotatoNV, but i could only get a GSI, so I lose most features and the camera quality). And it's also stuck on Android 9 - somehow (the phone is from 2017).
Still more usable than my Redmi 4x (4+64) with some motherboard issues, and cheaper than the decent grapheneos compatible phones on ebay (300 - 400€ in EU).
shweddy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 4d
IPod classic 5th gen with a 512gb sd card and higher capacity battery
Gameboy advance with a backlit screen, rechargeable battery and a flash cart
Library card for borrowing cds and dvds to rip
2022 thinkpad running arch
Film camera
And I dont connect my tv to wifi
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 4d
Thanks for reminding me to fix my old iPod!
I miss my GBA :/
jaygray91@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 4d
There's plenty of options for a small emulator handheld if you're will8ng to forgo getting OG hardware or hardware emulator devices that can read from carts.
Check out !sbcgaming@lemmy.ml or the same name sub on that other site if you're willing. Hmm maybe !retrogaming@lemmy.world as well probably.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 4d
thanks for pointing these out, good to see these communities over lemmy
jaygray91@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 3d
I should participate more but I funnily enough do not have any of those cheap handhelds because I can't decide lol
But also I don't really play much retro games, or any games for that matter
Only lately I've been playing L4D2 and REPO or other friendly chill co-op games.
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 4d
I've been meaning to look into those kinds of things; they look really cool. Thanks for the recommendations!
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 4d
if you want the best cheap GBA clones you can get right now Anbernic has two models depending on your favorite GBA model:
RG34XX for OG GBA
RGSP for GBASP
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 4d
Wired headphones.
Component hifi with floorstanding speakers.
Older car with cable-driven throttle and clutch.
Rotary-dial landline phone (not even kidding)
Vinyl records.
Home theatre PC.
Component desktop tower PC.
Basic Casio digital watch.
custom_username@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 4d
Great ones, respect.
SolarPunker@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 4d
A CRT is mandatory for videogames! Also many old audio stuff is superior in quality, like old portable CD players or wired headphones, it doesn't surprise me that many people today still want vintage tech.
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 4d
Old audio stuff is definitely higher quality in a lot of ways. Also I so need to get a CRT :3
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 4d
pair that CRT with a softmodded Wii and a component cable
you will be able to emulate almost any retro console with great image quality
SolarPunker@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 4d
pair that with an 8bitdo M30 and you have nearly perfect experience until 4th gen gaming
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3d
My grandma has a Phillips CRT tv. It's way better than any of my family's LCDs I hope I could inherit it and not let it go to waste when she dies (but hopefully she lives longer than the TV - since it's indestructible).
custom_username@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 4d
Vintage audio equipment. It's purpose built without gimmicky features, high quality, high performance, and built to last with discrete components and service manuals. Really it doesn't have to be vintage, but it's usually the old stuff that prioritizes these traits. I usually play local files (mp3/flac) over a bluetooth DAC but vinyl is fun once in a while. The same living room system gets used for movies and whatever else too.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3d
damn i regret letting some relatives get rid of theirs. i should have kept it but never had the space for it.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3d
My family promised to save me their 1980s pioneer stereo system, tape deck, 6 cd changer, turntable, and cabinate. I didn't go 'home' when they cleared out my grandparents house and my uncle sold the fucking thing for a few 100 bucks.
looking online i can find a similar system for like $1000, and only in america.
The one safe space I had as a teenager was sat in front of that thing with headphones blocking out the rest of the world. I will never get over this.
my grandfather treated me like a vulture when i asked if i could take it back in 2019, they hadn't turned the thing on since the 1990s.
/rant #firstworldproblems
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
If there are any thrift shops or used electronics shops near you, check into those. While back, I scored a sweet mid/high end 1990's AV receiver for $60 USD at a local surplus & thrift shop.
If you don't need all that stuff, like you can make do with a normal single CD player, you might be able to put a nice system together on the cheap. Esp if you are willing to collect it bit by bit.
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 4d
The car is a 2014. Not internet connected but still has a black box.
I've been playing local mp3 for decades. Along came streaming but I didn't see a reason to switch.
My laptop is a 2017 T-470 Thinkpad running Fedora44. Old machine, new software.
I use Syncthing and external hard drives instead of cloud storage.
I don't own a TV.
Not a single smart appliance in the house.
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 4d
If computers count then a phone with GrapheneOS and a laptop and a PC with a custom NixOS config.
drhoopoe@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 4d
2000 Corolla. Doesn't connect to anything except the radio. Stopped using the clicker to lock/unlock the doors when the battery in it died ~6 yrs ago. I was giving a ride to my kid and some of her friends, all around 10 y.o., and the friends were deeply confused when the doors stayed locked until I stuck an actual key in one of them. "Why doesn't your car beep?"
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3d
Wow, a 2000 corolla has a remote. My mk4 golf (2002) with decent equipment doesn't have that (but to be fair, it also doesn't have a CD drive radio - well I could add one for ~100€ but I won't since it costs money and the original radio works).
It's extremely reliable (especially the TDI engine). After 178000km, the only problems are the surface rust, (my grandma who owned it before me) had to replace the fenders - which rusted away and I recently had to replace the rear axle. And some trunk door water leaks I still had to fix (and some weird sounds coming from the wheels when steering to the right). My mom's 2014 golf mk7 is in way worse mechanical condition than my older car.
Also: how do the 10 year olds not know how batteries work (I did basic electronic repairs back then and help my dad wire lights ) and have you thought about reporting their parents for child neglect
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3d
There was a story in the a(us)bc media last week becuse someone was roadtripping in a 2006 corolla and it was amazing locals
i'd still have my corolla from 1994 if it wasnt stolen during the lockdowns :(, had a bunch of my cassettes in it too
artyom@piefed.social · 8 pts · 4d
None. I usually just buy new tech and then deshittify it 😅
PushButton@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 4d
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 4d
lol you win, but it's the only weird thing on your list
Side note, there was a gui version of lynx that ran on the early Mac.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 4d
Reticulum.
remustan37@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2d
What's reticulum?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2d
https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=reticulum
remustan37@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
remustan37@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
remustan37@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Hmm.. sounds interesting, buy what is its use case?
remustan37@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
Jentu@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 4d
Alphasmart keyboard to type notes when I’m out and about then transfer it to a VimWiki journal entry when I get home with a single button
iPod video modded with things like USB C and more storage
Retro “inspired” tv. Essentially, my old CRT didn’t survive a move and I replaced it with a replacement iPad 3 screen, a 3D printed body, and an analogue scaler so I can still plug my ps2 into it. It’s not really the same but it was a fun project.
Original gameboy with LSDJ so I can make chiptunes (though at this point, I’ve replaced it with the Dirtywave M8 entirely)
Tech of the non-electric variety:
Inkle loom, rigid heddle loom, and floor loom for various weaving
Spinning yarn on a spinning wheel and drop spindles (also have a 3D printed DIY e-spinner because the spinning wheel is so temperamental)
wyrehead@mungapple.org · 2 pts · 1d
I still use my AlphaSmart Neo all the time. Solid tech.
strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 4d
They're from before my time, but I collect cassette tapes. Other than that, I try to buy digital stuff DRM-free, and use FLOSS over proprietary slopware. I really hate bluetooth for audio because it sounds so bad.
Oh and I have a pocket-watch.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 4d
Nothing but everything I do run people still think I'm weird. Self hosted music, vacuum running valetudo speakers connected music assistant and home assistant.
utopiah@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 4d
Termux on Android devices
To give an example yesterday walking down the street I had an idea for a prototype (basically every morning my phone would generate an ePub with calendar, map of the area, notes, articles to read, etc) but I didn't use some fancy voice assistant, no I started Termux on my phone, mkdir, echo idea > file, etc.
I have notes on my wiki on https://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/SwappingPartsOfTheRestrictionStack on doing this kind of stuff on more than phones, VR headset, IoT, etc. Typically the heuristic is to still by modern hardware flash an open source firmware or OS then connect it to your tools that are already not enshittified or de-enshittified
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 4d
Analog art or crafts (get your crayons out, kids, or put on your smocks because we're painting today). My fave media personally right now are crayons, chalk, or oil pastels for drawing or water-based markers and a brush pen filled with water or watercolors or acrylics + watercolor crayons for painting currently. Like, Crayola markers are really fun to paint with when you go to blend them with a wet brush.
If going digital, using open alternatives to the Adobe suite, I personally use a combination of RawTherapee and GIMP for editing photos because it works for me so far.
You can still buy used older digicams that are still respectable even by modern standards, there's plenty of old DSLRs which fit that bill, for example, even going back as far as '07 with the Sony a900 boasting a resolution that is still by all means a very respectable resolution by modern standards at 24.6MP, plus it should be able to work with the entire A-mount range even going back to legacy screw-drive lenses, let alone 'modern' Sony servo-drive A-mount glass.
You could buy a bunch of CDs and rip them to FLAC, and then transcode those lossless rips to lossy copies as desired, eg. transcoding them to 160-510kbit/s* Opus copies for storage-limited devices.
*Per the HydrogenAudio KB, Opus' transparency bitrate for music is 160-192kbit/s and the codec maxes out at 510kbit/s.
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
Finally, a correct take on Opus. Thank you.
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 3d
No prob! And if you're maxing out any lossy codec, that's the point where your only intention is to make a file smaller than you can do with lossless, while still having no audible degradation between that lossy copy and the uncompressed or lossless original file, although you could also settle for transparency in the case of codecs like Opus or even Vorbis where their max bitrate is higher than their transparency rate for even smaller files.
In the case of older codecs like MP3, supposedly its transparency bitrate of 320kbit/s CBR is also its max bitrate, but there's decades of debate over whether 320kbit/s CBR or V0 VBR is superior for that codec, such as this HA thread from 2008 on the matter. As for MD/ATRAC, its transparency bitrate, and also its max bitrate and the native bitrate for the MD format, is 292kbit/s CBR.
For the curious, the two bitrates for MD/ATRAC that fall below its transparency bitrate are 132kbit/s (MD LP2) and 66kbit/s (MD LP4).
cowsightings@leminal.space · 5 pts · 3d
Restored a T3 Palm Pilot to work as a my own little portable minigame thang!
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 4 pts · 4d
Admittedly a lot of my audio stuff is either wireless or built-in now. Either laptop speakers, or bone conduction headphones since I want to hear what's happening around me when I'm walking on the roadside. Not clear on what you mean by pre-enshittification tech, but here's the stuff people either need explained, or look at me weird for:
We'll be moving into an owned home soon, and I have some plans for tech, and non-tech stuff. Can't wait to see how many comments we get about having awnings in 2026.
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 3d
I wish I had time to use Gentoo, but I barely have time to upgrade my Suse TW and Artix systems (to be fair, suse's packaging system is shit compared to arch/artix, but it is more stable if upgraded after a long time).
How do you manage to upgrade it regularly? Do you have an extremely powerful PC or just the T430?
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 2 pts · 3d
Gentoo is on the Latitude; it's slightly more powerful, but it's still an eight year old laptop. The big thing that's cut down on compile time is using binary packages by default, only compiling when I either need to because my USE flags are different, or because there's no binary package available. I don't have that many packages installed that take hours/days (and I do mean days, I gave up on the source package for qtwebengine after 3 days of compiling) anymore. Average update takes maybe 30 minutes now, updating weekly.
For a more direct comparison: Same PC, installed Gentoo twice (I managed to bork my install), the source install took 3 days to actually get a GUI, binary install took 3 hours, and there is essentially no difference
I will also say: You can absolutely use your computer while the upgrades are going. Gaming won't be great, but doing office/coding stuff, and watching videos is usually fine
JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2d
Eh, on my Latitude(5290) - 2018, i7-8350u and my shitty home network (still better than my grandma's ADSL but not by much), zypper dup (with some unnecesarry shit) takes an hour. I assume emerging the upgrade would be at least 10 times longer.
I assume I'd be forced to use Gentoo if I eventually switch to a snapdragon laptop, so fuck me then.
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 2 pts · 1d
If you do, adding the line 'FEATURES="getbinpkg"' to your make.conf will automatically make it search for binary packages that match your USE flags, and they do pick ones that are pretty sensible for the binaries, so it's very likely. I think I have maybe 3-4 packages that have binaries that I can't use because of my flags, and they're all pretty quick to install.
Not sure how much the internet will affect it, I've only tested it on my current network, which is pretty fast
kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 4d
i like e-books on an e-reader. i wouldn't consider them enshittification, can read them offline and even get some drm free books
anyway my boomer and luddite habits and devices:
an e-book reader that's always offline, with drm free books
gog games just like you (just hoarded plenty of older games yesterday from the sale hehe)
lemmy and mastodon instead of modern social media with addicting algorithms, invasive tracking and ads
a retro emulator handheld (anbernic rgsp) to play gameboy, gameboy classic and gameboy advance games offline. aux earbuds with it ofc if i use it in public
no ai usage
i use qwant instead of google cus it's a lot closer to an old school search engine
youtube without algorithms (pipepipe, freetube) just like the way it used to be
pay with cash instead of card or google pay etc nonsense
no loyalty cards or loyalty apps even if i lose money monthly from groceries and such
avoid apps and usage of the smartphone in "smart ways" whenever possible
don't play any games with a rootkit anticheat
no modern car, i use public transportation. i pay for my ticket without an app whenever possible
no consumption of short form content
gjoel@programming.dev · 4 pts · 4d
Wired speakers. But connected to wiim because I like music discovery. Not that shit though.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 4d
Btw, does Youtube (webäpp) switch to their audio-only channels, if they detect focus loss?
Because that's how people use it anxyway – playing the full video of a song/podcast they only listen to. And Youtube has always at least one audio-only channel
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Only if you pay for premium. Regular users it refuses to play in the background.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 4d
So Google prefers to waste their own (and the users mobile) bandwidth on the majority of non-paying users?
What the heck?
monovergent@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3d
The one piece of old tech I don't miss are bulky charging bricks. I use my GaN USB-C charger whenever possible, sometimes with the help of adapters.
wyrehead@mungapple.org · 2 pts · 1d
I still use my AlphaSmart Neo. Its a smple portable word processor, popular in schools in the 2000s. Small LCD screen, Full keyboard, and runs forever on AA batteries. No apps, notifications, or distractions, just turn it on and write.
RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 3d
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3d
I have several hifi's in my home and over 1000 CDs 😅
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 3d
I use most of these things. Never get any weird reactions, though. Most people I know prefer them.
chunes@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3d
i genuinely don't understand why people 'self-host.' i don't need a server running some bloated electron netflix-wannabe to vlc myvideo.mp4
datendefekt@feddit.org · 5 pts · 3d
I self host because it replaces services I’d have to pay for and because it’s a cool hobby. You also have the other advantages of the cloud: easy access from anywhere on all your devices, you can easily share stuff with less computer literate friends and family.
JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
Self-hoster here. I don’t need it either. For me, it’s mostly a hobby. I enjoy setting up and maintaining my own server. There's also the fact that I don't have to subscribe to and browse through one hundred different streaming services to watch everything I want. As for my music library, I returned to self-hosting after streaming services repeatedly removed tracks from my playlists or replaced them with different versions, it annoyed the hell out of me.
Noggog@programming.dev · 2 pts · 3d
Well, its hard to vlc your myvideo.mp4 to your mom, brothers, and friends. Selfhosting let's you de-corp a larger group of people easier that might be less tech savvy
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 3d
I self host an XMPP server for family and friends. No electron anywhere near it. It's tiny, will run on a potato. But it's ample for the 16-ish of us on the thing.
I do it because it let us avoid big tech surveilence IM services.
I also self host web pages. I am 100% sure they have no tracking pixels, no analytics scripts, no enshittification of any kind. The moment I use a commercial "build your web site with our super easy app!" thing, enshittification gets bundled right in behind the scenes.
chunes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
For sure, those are two examples where it makes total sense
dropdrip@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 3d
I agree. It's a weird phenomenon where people mimic an industry.