Scientific policing

People are pretty stupid and uncritically believe the myths about the republican party. Guy I worked with said "the republicans will unlock the economy" so he voted for trump. And then tariffs borked his business, and the war in iran probably killed some of his family. But he still jokes, as an iranian immigrant, about ICE abductions. Some people are just stupid.

That's exactly it.

The GOP cornered the moronic "Law & Order" narrative because they're fascists who want a police state.

Establishment Dems also want a police state but know their voterbase doesn't. So they try to sell a police state, under different words, and still refuse to talk about any actually meaningful alternatives. Its why cunts like Hakeem Jefferies refuse to fight to abolish ICE even though abolishing ICE polls better than "reforming" it.

Only DSA candidates are pushing real solutions. That's why establishment Dems are fighting them harder in 1 year than they've fought Trump in 10 years.

Same with conservatives in Europe – and it's also the same with government efficiency. They get "issue ownership" because they talk about it a lot, but I've never heard of conservative politicians who've actually made government more efficient.

It's a harder sell, but it's impacted by media straight up not talking about policy that way. Investigative journalism in America (and probably the broader West) is essentially dead, so the public becomes wildly uninformed and has to go off vibes.

Americans are not a mature people. They find it scarier to be without a gun than to be without a doctor.

Their mentality on crime is that they wanna punish bad guys. They don't care about justice, they just wanna "fight bad guys" like in an action movie. We can see this in how they obsess over Lindsay Clancy. They don't care that she has psychosis and would be better served in a mental institution, they saw that she did something bad and they wanna see her punished.

The reasons for her actions are not important, the fact that there's a better solution is not important, the fact that Not Guilty By Reason Of Insanity doesn't mean she gets to go home is not important.

She's a bad guy, and bad guys get punished.

Americans favor punishment over rehabilitation not because rehabilitation doesn't work (Other countries that focus on it show that it definitely does), but because they are immature and care more about "Fighting bad guys" than actual justice.

I will be the greatest president. Using my superior prescient abilities I will stop the events that produce criminals to begin with. The entire country will be crime free at the end of my term. With the strength of a tactician's mind America will be the greatest country in the world

mouth breathers cheering as the end of Shall Never Surrender from DMC4 plays over loudspeskers

Everyone is 12 in America dude just sound like a confident supervillain and your are good.

This definitely used to be true, but now that they're okay with the leader of their party using the FBI to cover up his own child sex abuse scandal, any Republican who asserts that they're tough on crime is going to lose that debate.

If the pope would crack down on crime more with all that Vatican money the republicans wouldn't have to spend so much on crime. Pretty much nothing bad is really their fault fyi.

That's the heart of conservatism: hierarchy

There are many who would happily lobby to refuse all emergency services, rights, legal protections, healthcare, etc to those who are “undeserving”.

I go on about this a lot, but the book "Dying of Whiteness" has examples of that. One guy literally was dying but still didn't want those people to have free health care, even if it would save his life.

If you're born into money, you have two options:

Either you believe you don't truly deserve all this money, and you live with the existential angst and dread this causes you until you slowly kill yourself through drugs and alcohol, or you give it all away and live as a poor nomad.

OR you believe you truly deserve all that money. And since you know you didn't actually DO anything to get it, it must be because you were BORN better than everyone else. Genetically superior.

Which do you think most people choose?

Voters think that though. Waking them up from the illusion may help.

Plus, honestly, most people drink their own kool aid so I wouldn't be surprised if our leaders did believe this despite all evidence. The desire to think of yourself as a good person can overpower most evidence.

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons, you don't even flinch

All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich

And it's profitable in 'Murica

Private prisons should not exist

Neither did the cops.

its a pipeline to funnel money into the politicians pockets/campaigns.

No that's just a part of it. Another huge part is having a large militarized and brutal police force that you can use to against the people.

The thing about capitalism is that slavery is extremely fucking profitable.

Both of your comments are valid points.

No, even no-strings-attached cash works.

I'm not saying social programs aren't good, just that your claim that money doesn't help without them isn't true.

and crime (like selling guns, drugs...) for extra money.

I hope you can see the contradiction here. You just said they don't work and now say that they do illegal work. That should be your first clue that something about your information is wrong, because obviously these two things can't be true at the same time.

More broadly, the idea that "whole communities of minorities stopped working" because of social welfare is, frankly, bullshit. And not just that, it's the kind of bullshit that gets repeated everywhere (see: welfare queen rhetoric in America), because its purpose is to rile up working class people of the majority ethnicity against minorities. The fact of the matter is: People like having financial security and nice things, so the vast majority of people aren't going to stop working because they're getting the pittance of money that counts for social welfare in even really generous countries. When people don't work, that's almost always because they can't work (see asylum seekers for another example), so whoever is telling you that dirty gypsies are lazily living off your tax money is feeding you bullshit. When it comes to Romas specifically, Romas have been shut out of polite society for centuries now, and it'd be ridiculous to assume that it stopped overnight. But we don't have to assume; we know it hasn't. It's no coincidence that countries without intense and longstanding anti-Roma hatred also don't have stereotypes about dirty Gypsies living off your tax money.

In past two years we stopped this and now condition social support with behaving.

So is there evidence that Roma crime is in any way correlated with social welfare or are you accepting that this "solution" worked based on vibes?

condition social support with behaving

This should be a given right?

Conclusion: Lobotomize all civilians and put them to work, to protect them from the evils of personal time.

Sounds like you let the wrong "minorities" in, mate..

Damn, you're kinda shitty

Tell us that you enjoy a position of privilege and don't understand that others aren't as fortunate without telling us that you enjoy a position of privilege and don't understand that others aren't as fortunate

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12750604/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004727271830210X

(the comic is based on french studies, but equivalent american ones weren't hard to find)

Do those studies include the ~$60,000/yr it costs to incarcerate someone per year?

You sound willfully unaware, and as a result it's hard to resist an inflammatory response.

Please research this with an open mind. You may fond yourself surprised at how strongly it will affect your worldview.