I don't know if you really can though. Most multiplayer games are meant to be played over and over again, which block out the time that you'd normally spend on single player games that have a fixed ending. Back in the day, I played a ton of WoW and then moved straight to League. I missed like a decade of great single player games because multiplayer is such a trap.
Sorry that you have such an experience; many online games have fairly toxic communities, others do not; and for every game you can find amazing and kind teammates if you look closely!
Honesty, I played WoW back in the day and was in a cool guild so I've had good experiences. I don't have a network of people that I play with already and don't have the time to go out and build one. I don't love being on mic either so I know its a me thing. There are a lot of fun single player games that are really enjoyable.
Well there's Age of Mythology, which had a definitive edition announced a couple of years ago, and which just today they made an announcement of an announcement (don't you love that those seem to be a thing now...) of more information coming up next month.
There's a new Company of Heroes game that came out last year, and a shockingly high-quality open-source RTS called Beyond All Reason, and an RTS-ish Dune game from 2022. None of these really appeal to me though, as I just love the gameplay style of the Age franchise. So I don't really know how strong they're going.
Last year also saw the release of the finished version of the massive Battle for Middle Earth 2 mod Age of the Ring. That's a game that you can't even buy any more, from anywhere, and it still has enough of a community to support that interest. (Admittedly, personally I would include BFME in the "rts games are all dead" category, but perhaps it's just not quite as dead as one would think.)
I know it's a running joke that Australian wildlife is so deadly, but genuinely, in my day-to-day, I almost never think about it.
Except for a couple of months in Spring. When riding my bike becomes a game of Russian roulette with whether or not I'm going to be swooped by magpies.
The problem is that this only works if you have a particular magpie in your neighbourhood. If you're talking about a dozen or more different magpies across all possible places you could want to go, it becomes completely impractical.
Eh, depends how much you hate swooping, but I've done it on a couple of 35-50 K loops I do regular with like 6 swoop points and jerky lasts so one bag is good for a season. One or two (occasionally three) stops and throws is good for the season, doesn't seem that impractical, but YMMV.
While you're right that you can befriend them and they'll remember you, our magpies aren't corvids afaik. I used to bring plain cashews as part of my lunch and the local magpies were obsessed with them. There was one that would run along behind me whenever I walked outside, and she even followed me into buildings a few times.
Ha. Looks like YouTube is telling me I've seen this before.
I recall having seen it before, but my recollection was of a man. Might be thinking of a different video. (I think he also tried taking the helmet off, and that worked.)
Also, by the gods that helmet was absolutely useless. There's a zero percent chance of it staying on in the event of a crash, as loose as it was.
Yeah there's a few, I had to look through some other ones but to me this is the classic one haha. There's also one with a 10 year old screaming his head off while escaping on his scooter >.<
I have forged a peace deal between me and the magpies that live in my trees a few years, it's a tense relationship, but they don't swoop me and I don't swing a plastic rake at them.
We have Australian magpies here in NZ too, and I was always told to be cautious around them but I've literally never seen them swoop at anyone.
Is there something about the Aussie environment that makes them aggro?
Fun thing about them is there's always two of the bastards. So when my kids and I see one we always make it a game to find the second one. It's often quite a challenge
I played Genshin Impact once when it first came. The routing from Australia to Asia was so bad that it actually routed to the US first, than back to Asia.
I actually got better ping by using a VPN to Japan or Taiwan before connecting to the game server.
Many of them are genuinely highly skilled players.
Apparently that (and genuine cheating) is some part of Asian culture that brings the "I can't enjoy the game unless I excel at it" mentality to a whole new level.
People who haven’t lived in China just do not understand their culture at all. It’s competitive to a degree we do not comprehend. Places in just sought after primary schools can have literally million to one odds. Universities are even more competitive. Ditto for jobs. The entire culture is built around protecting the individual and family at any cost. Students are expected to cheat if they can get away with it. It’s expected in business too. If you don’t cheat, you’re considered a fool who rejected a chance to elevate yourself. Cheating is a normal way of life in China. They don’t understand why we don’t like it in games.
Nah, I deal with a lot of China people at my workplace, and the culture has not changed. They still cheat a lot. They may work hard once in a while, but if they can cheat to get ahead, you can be damn sure they're gonna do it.
It's not particular to China. It's peasant culture. Peasant fairy-tales tell us about it. Russian peasant culture wasn't much different (and still can be seen in some Russians). Western European peasant culture was similar too in medieval times and even more recently.
Most of Chinese are descendants of peasants, and also they had to survive in a very competitive environment.
When I used to play dota it was amazing the difference in difficulty between US west servers and SEA servers. 6k mmr us west was about the same as 4k mmr on SEA. Whenever the international was hosted in Seattle the US West servers would be flooded with Chinese players and I wouldn't even bother playing because just get completely shit on
Yeah and regulars on those servers are the same 20 people just like the greentext says, the rest are world hoppers who will be there only very temporarily
It looked fine to you, but what was the perspective like on his end? Destiny 2 has a hybrid model where a bunch of stuff is done on the client to make overall experience feel smoother, even when latency is appreciable, but that still by necessity leads to all sorts of weirdness behind the scenes when the clients are catching up with the server and you start having hit registration issues, teleporting enemies and players, even though the client isn’t really dropping frames per se.
Most FPS are probably fine nowadays, they've developed a lot of lag and ping compensation strategies. It might be a problem in a high stakes tournament with the best players.
This is all bullshit lol. Wow and FF14 are the biggest MMOs and have oce servers with thousands of players. Dota has oce servers. Every fps game I've played has a ton of oce community servers.
Idk what games this fun-sponge plays but his vibes are lame af. Maybe he's mad cause the 10 players he's referring to don't like him.
I have an Australian buddy I play FF14 with and he joins me on an NA server in savage mode raiding no problem. His ping does cause a slight delay, but the majority of the time it has virtually no impact on his ability to perform the mechanics and clear the raids.
Even like 10 years ago I would frequently get a steady 30 ping in heaps of different multiplayer games. I don't play as many games these days but I know enough people who play online, even in competitive shooters, who don't have any issues.
Maybe they live in a small town somewhere, because at least in the bigger cities it's not that dire.
They're talking about getting matched to servers overseas. You're definitely not getting 30 ping to Singapore, which in most cases is the best server you'll get if there isn't an Australian one.
Not sure which games they want to play that don't have Aussie servers though. I don't play any shooters.
Even if you're in Australia, servers are on the east coast, so playing from Darwin is hell.
Before I retired in protest, I managed to get to the highest competitive rank in Halo Infinite. Only when I moved to NSW did I realise how crippled I was.
So how else I'm gonna feel good beating those sweats who do nothing but play the game 8 hours a day and still get beat by me who got lots of responsibility.
In case you seriously wonder: the problem is not cables being slow, but rather Australia being super damn far away from the places servers are normally located in, which means that on top of all the delay the equipment brings in, it just takes time to propagate a signal there. It's one of those edge cases when the literal speed of light is not enough, and it's a hard physical limitation.
You can't circumvent it with Starlink, as you still have to move the signal between, in this case, Asia and Australia, plus up and down to the height of Starlink satellites, plus delays of the ground station, at least two satellites (actually more), another ground station, and all the switches and routers on your way there.
The main part of ping is the processing at the hops taking time, not the physical distance (for reference, with full speed of light you could get around the equator in around 150ms). I do recall there at least being a claim that starlink has reasonably good ping, it doesn't seem impossible for it to be better than via fiber, even if shooters are probably still unplayable
Nah dude, every time I've checked my routing the rtt is basically speed of light. Like it's 200 ms give or take to LA. As the Crow flies that's 24000 km, which would be 80 ms RTT. idk the exact route but we can probably add say 30% in the distance cause those cables aren't dead straight and there's a bit of waggle around the actual network infrastructure.
like yeah maybe half is the processing but that fraction only gets smaller with distance and LA is like the closest English speaking hub.
Hmm. Wasn't starlink supposed to propagate directly from satellite to satellite around the world? Or is that still not the case? The speed of light is only reached in vacuum (it's slower in fiberglass, like 66%) and afaik one of the selling points was that they could do high-frequency trading faster between the stock exchanges of london and new york. And the reason why they use low earth orbit. So I assumed this should significantly reduce ping.
I didn't closely follow Starlink-related news recently, but regardless, on such a high distance and such a low height I expect the very curvature of the Earth being a problem with direct transmission of signals from one satellite to the other. May be wrong again, though, didn't calculate.
Also fair on speed of light. However, even if we don't count travelling up, down, and extra equipment, and take 33% improvement at face value, this turns 80-150ms ping into 53-100ms, which is still clearly not good enough for competitive gaming.
I also wonder how it goes in southern parts of Africa, for example.
Africa is not really a region full of servers, and routing connections from there to, like, Europe through underwater cables must be a pain like no other.
Sounds like bollocks to me. OP is probably just gaming on some dodgy wifi router they got free from their ISP and installed half an acre away, or they're playing on an xbox, or some other crap thats their fault. Dont blame geography just get good.
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TheBat@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 2y
Woht24@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 2y
TheBat@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 2y
Woht24@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 2y
Zozano@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 2y
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 2y
What was it?
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 2y
No distractions from couch co-op and single player titles
The dream
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe · 40 pts · 2y
Reject MP, return to story based gameplay
Gutek8134@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
I mean... you can have both
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
Instructions unlcear, Dark Urge only party.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
As long as its in separate games, sure. If a game has both single player and multiplayer, at least one of them will be shit.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2y
Baldur's Gate 3
Gutek8134@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I was thinking about coop
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
I don't know if you really can though. Most multiplayer games are meant to be played over and over again, which block out the time that you'd normally spend on single player games that have a fixed ending. Back in the day, I played a ton of WoW and then moved straight to League. I missed like a decade of great single player games because multiplayer is such a trap.
MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Just play old games, lol
figjam@midwest.social · 64 pts · 2y
Why play games with other people at all? People are like the worst
Psythik@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
Because AI is predictable and boring (and/or cheats). The human element keeps games exciting.
JustUseMint@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
This is true it is interesting but when I get my ass kicked 9/10 times no matter the game I become uninterested
Inb4 get good
pixeltree@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y
Coop games can have good communities. Deep rock galactic is the prime example
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
Rock. And. Stone.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 2y
Stop playing competitive games and see how fast that changes.
Competitive gamers are assholes who just want to prove they are better than other people.
po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net · 1 pts · 2y
Isn't that kind of the whole idea about competitions?
Allero@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
Sorry that you have such an experience; many online games have fairly toxic communities, others do not; and for every game you can find amazing and kind teammates if you look closely!
figjam@midwest.social · 3 pts · 2y
Honesty, I played WoW back in the day and was in a cool guild so I've had good experiences. I don't have a network of people that I play with already and don't have the time to go out and build one. I don't love being on mic either so I know its a me thing. There are a lot of fun single player games that are really enjoyable.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 48 pts · 2y
Is this post from 2014? Age of Empires is stronger than ever, since the release of the Definitive Editions and AoE4!
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Aussnon has never downloaded GameRanger either and it shows. BfME 2 and CaC: Red Alert for eternity.
fergie434@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2y
Gameranger is still a thing? Haven’t thought of that since my days playing ghost recon 1 in the mid 2000’s
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
The range of the game is infinite.
MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
All right, name me another rts.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 2y
Well there's Age of Mythology, which had a definitive edition announced a couple of years ago, and which just today they made an announcement of an announcement (don't you love that those seem to be a thing now...) of more information coming up next month.
There's a new Company of Heroes game that came out last year, and a shockingly high-quality open-source RTS called Beyond All Reason, and an RTS-ish Dune game from 2022. None of these really appeal to me though, as I just love the gameplay style of the Age franchise. So I don't really know how strong they're going.
Last year also saw the release of the finished version of the massive Battle for Middle Earth 2 mod Age of the Ring. That's a game that you can't even buy any more, from anywhere, and it still has enough of a community to support that interest. (Admittedly, personally I would include BFME in the "rts games are all dead" category, but perhaps it's just not quite as dead as one would think.)
superduperenigma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Stormgate is currently in closed beta!
MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 2y
Aww, I don't know why you deleted your reply to my comment. It was funny as fuck!
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 35 pts · 2y
Great! It means you have more time to enjoy the beauty of nature!
Wait, it's Australia.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 29 pts · 2y
I know it's a running joke that Australian wildlife is so deadly, but genuinely, in my day-to-day, I almost never think about it.
Except for a couple of months in Spring. When riding my bike becomes a game of Russian roulette with whether or not I'm going to be swooped by magpies.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 2y
Jerky. There's a reason they call them the black and white mafia. Throw some jerky for them and they'll remember you, corvines are damn smart.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2y
The problem is that this only works if you have a particular magpie in your neighbourhood. If you're talking about a dozen or more different magpies across all possible places you could want to go, it becomes completely impractical.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 2y
Eh, depends how much you hate swooping, but I've done it on a couple of 35-50 K loops I do regular with like 6 swoop points and jerky lasts so one bag is good for a season. One or two (occasionally three) stops and throws is good for the season, doesn't seem that impractical, but YMMV.
PDFuego@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
While you're right that you can befriend them and they'll remember you, our magpies aren't corvids afaik. I used to bring plain cashews as part of my lunch and the local magpies were obsessed with them. There was one that would run along behind me whenever I walked outside, and she even followed me into buildings a few times.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 2y
I stand corrected. I've even learned that before and it didn't stick, maybe this time. Still damn smart and visually similar.
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
For today's lucky 10 000: https://youtu.be/YGGTcYfrEZU?si=xzjxe1ST5vWgImkD
Allero@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
Thank you, I'm one of the lucky 10 000
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2y
Ha. Looks like YouTube is telling me I've seen this before.
I recall having seen it before, but my recollection was of a man. Might be thinking of a different video. (I think he also tried taking the helmet off, and that worked.)
Also, by the gods that helmet was absolutely useless. There's a zero percent chance of it staying on in the event of a crash, as loose as it was.
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah there's a few, I had to look through some other ones but to me this is the classic one haha. There's also one with a 10 year old screaming his head off while escaping on his scooter >.<
Woht24@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
ItsAFake@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 2y
I have forged a peace deal between me and the magpies that live in my trees a few years, it's a tense relationship, but they don't swoop me and I don't swing a plastic rake at them.
youngalfred@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
I'm trying to train my son, who loves chasing pigeons, not to chase magpies because they remember you
southernbrewer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
We have Australian magpies here in NZ too, and I was always told to be cautious around them but I've literally never seen them swoop at anyone.
Is there something about the Aussie environment that makes them aggro?
Fun thing about them is there's always two of the bastards. So when my kids and I see one we always make it a game to find the second one. It's often quite a challenge
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 29 pts · 2y
I played Genshin Impact once when it first came. The routing from Australia to Asia was so bad that it actually routed to the US first, than back to Asia.
I actually got better ping by using a VPN to Japan or Taiwan before connecting to the game server.
Hegar@kbin.social · 27 pts · 2y
200 ping to NA? Lucky east coasters. In my wow playing days living in perth on the west coast I was main tanking at 300-500ms.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
Out here ANTICIPATING shield taunt times
youngalfred@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
Well it is the most isolated captial city in the world
RecallMadness@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 2y
Bloody west-islanders with their land and internet.
600ms ping in WoW from NZ to West Coast servers was “good”.
datelmd5sum@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 2y
spiders everywhere, most expensive drugs in the world
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
TIL they don’t sell single player games in Australia…
F
Allero@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
Sorry what
What do you mean
I can't find details
Woht24@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
Swarfega@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 2y
Well, imagine living in Europe where there's millions of other players. Yet you play solo cause you don't have any friends.
pixxelkick@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
At least they have Path of Exile (IIRC PoE has aussie and a NZ server, because GGG is based out of NZ nearby)
JasSmith@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 2y
Anon forgot to mention that many local servers are infested with Chinese cheaters.
Allero@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 2y
Many of them are genuinely highly skilled players.
Apparently that (and genuine cheating) is some part of Asian culture that brings the "I can't enjoy the game unless I excel at it" mentality to a whole new level.
JasSmith@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 2y
People who haven’t lived in China just do not understand their culture at all. It’s competitive to a degree we do not comprehend. Places in just sought after primary schools can have literally million to one odds. Universities are even more competitive. Ditto for jobs. The entire culture is built around protecting the individual and family at any cost. Students are expected to cheat if they can get away with it. It’s expected in business too. If you don’t cheat, you’re considered a fool who rejected a chance to elevate yourself. Cheating is a normal way of life in China. They don’t understand why we don’t like it in games.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2y
With their demographics changing this culture may change too. Well, in 50 years or something.
Cringe2793@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Nah, I deal with a lot of China people at my workplace, and the culture has not changed. They still cheat a lot. They may work hard once in a while, but if they can cheat to get ahead, you can be damn sure they're gonna do it.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2y
Yes, I meant not now, but with a lag.
It's not particular to China. It's peasant culture. Peasant fairy-tales tell us about it. Russian peasant culture wasn't much different (and still can be seen in some Russians). Western European peasant culture was similar too in medieval times and even more recently.
Most of Chinese are descendants of peasants, and also they had to survive in a very competitive environment.
rab@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 2y
When I used to play dota it was amazing the difference in difficulty between US west servers and SEA servers. 6k mmr us west was about the same as 4k mmr on SEA. Whenever the international was hosted in Seattle the US West servers would be flooded with Chinese players and I wouldn't even bother playing because just get completely shit on
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 2y
rab@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 2y
Yeah and regulars on those servers are the same 20 people just like the greentext says, the rest are world hoppers who will be there only very temporarily
thoughtorgan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 2y
I played Destiny 2 recently with some kid from Australia... he seemed like he was able to play online fine and I'm in the U.S.
darkpanda@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 2y
It looked fine to you, but what was the perspective like on his end? Destiny 2 has a hybrid model where a bunch of stuff is done on the client to make overall experience feel smoother, even when latency is appreciable, but that still by necessity leads to all sorts of weirdness behind the scenes when the clients are catching up with the server and you start having hit registration issues, teleporting enemies and players, even though the client isn’t really dropping frames per se.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 2y
Probably a player in his own league, gamer genius and cyberwarlord.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y
Most FPS are probably fine nowadays, they've developed a lot of lag and ping compensation strategies. It might be a problem in a high stakes tournament with the best players.
Woht24@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
wick@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 2y
This is all bullshit lol. Wow and FF14 are the biggest MMOs and have oce servers with thousands of players. Dota has oce servers. Every fps game I've played has a ton of oce community servers.
Idk what games this fun-sponge plays but his vibes are lame af. Maybe he's mad cause the 10 players he's referring to don't like him.
Cypher@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Irishred88@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I have an Australian buddy I play FF14 with and he joins me on an NA server in savage mode raiding no problem. His ping does cause a slight delay, but the majority of the time it has virtually no impact on his ability to perform the mechanics and clear the raids.
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org · 12 pts · 2y
Even like 10 years ago I would frequently get a steady 30 ping in heaps of different multiplayer games. I don't play as many games these days but I know enough people who play online, even in competitive shooters, who don't have any issues.
Maybe they live in a small town somewhere, because at least in the bigger cities it's not that dire.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 2y
They're talking about getting matched to servers overseas. You're definitely not getting 30 ping to Singapore, which in most cases is the best server you'll get if there isn't an Australian one.
Not sure which games they want to play that don't have Aussie servers though. I don't play any shooters.
filcuk@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 2y
DRG is playable up to 400ms easily. Rock & Stone brother!
GhostMatter@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
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Zozano@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 2y
Even if you're in Australia, servers are on the east coast, so playing from Darwin is hell.
Before I retired in protest, I managed to get to the highest competitive rank in Halo Infinite. Only when I moved to NSW did I realise how crippled I was.
Cringe2793@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
So don't play online. People are toxic af anyway in most multiplayer games.
sheogorath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
So how else I'm gonna feel good beating those sweats who do nothing but play the game 8 hours a day and still get beat by me who got lots of responsibility.
thoughtorgan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Romeowns@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Meanwhile, us New Zealand gamers are eagerly waiting for free slots on the Aussie servers.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
What about starlink? Can you get that in Australia an how is the ping?
Allero@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 2y
In case you seriously wonder: the problem is not cables being slow, but rather Australia being super damn far away from the places servers are normally located in, which means that on top of all the delay the equipment brings in, it just takes time to propagate a signal there. It's one of those edge cases when the literal speed of light is not enough, and it's a hard physical limitation.
You can't circumvent it with Starlink, as you still have to move the signal between, in this case, Asia and Australia, plus up and down to the height of Starlink satellites, plus delays of the ground station, at least two satellites (actually more), another ground station, and all the switches and routers on your way there.
LwL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
The main part of ping is the processing at the hops taking time, not the physical distance (for reference, with full speed of light you could get around the equator in around 150ms). I do recall there at least being a claim that starlink has reasonably good ping, it doesn't seem impossible for it to be better than via fiber, even if shooters are probably still unplayable
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
Nah dude, every time I've checked my routing the rtt is basically speed of light. Like it's 200 ms give or take to LA. As the Crow flies that's 24000 km, which would be 80 ms RTT. idk the exact route but we can probably add say 30% in the distance cause those cables aren't dead straight and there's a bit of waggle around the actual network infrastructure.
like yeah maybe half is the processing but that fraction only gets smaller with distance and LA is like the closest English speaking hub.
edit: just ran a test now https://www.meter.net/ping-test/202404-92320-2f35.html that's theoretically 90 ms so yeah, even if that distance is accurate it's 60% light speed limits.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Hmm. Wasn't starlink supposed to propagate directly from satellite to satellite around the world? Or is that still not the case? The speed of light is only reached in vacuum (it's slower in fiberglass, like 66%) and afaik one of the selling points was that they could do high-frequency trading faster between the stock exchanges of london and new york. And the reason why they use low earth orbit. So I assumed this should significantly reduce ping.
Allero@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 2y
Fair criticisms!
I didn't closely follow Starlink-related news recently, but regardless, on such a high distance and such a low height I expect the very curvature of the Earth being a problem with direct transmission of signals from one satellite to the other. May be wrong again, though, didn't calculate.
Also fair on speed of light. However, even if we don't count travelling up, down, and extra equipment, and take 33% improvement at face value, this turns 80-150ms ping into 53-100ms, which is still clearly not good enough for competitive gaming.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah I haven't followed either why I'm curious if any of the claimed benefits materialized.
Tyfud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Allero@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
I also wonder how it goes in southern parts of Africa, for example.
Africa is not really a region full of servers, and routing connections from there to, like, Europe through underwater cables must be a pain like no other.
d00ery@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I often come across South Africans on EU squad servers.
trk@aussie.zone · -2 pts · 2y
Sounds like bollocks to me. OP is probably just gaming on some dodgy wifi router they got free from their ISP and installed half an acre away, or they're playing on an xbox, or some other crap thats their fault. Dont blame geography just get good.
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 2y
Maybe he is somewhere on the country side that is connected with ancient technology over overloaded connections.