Does anyone else remember back in the early days of the internet when experts used to say, "The internet routes around problems".
I miss those early days.
To @daggermoon@lemmy.world , I see that a lot with searches now too but I just keep searching or find some other way around the problem. There's no way I click in to Reddit any more. You do you, but I'm saying there's always another option.
Honestly the internet will route around the loss of reddit just like it did with the loss of forums and other crowdsourced platforms that have died off over time. Yeah, we will lose a treasure trove of knowledge, but a lot of it was also outdated and the same questions will be asked again so the knowledge can be rebuilt.
Reddit is definitely not the final evolution of the internet board. It goes without saying that we can do better. And when a better iteration comes along nobody will even need to ask the Reddit users to switch as theyll naturally migrate like we always have. And then eventually that thing will be decrowned for something better too
It was the only search result relevant to my query.
Paste it into archive.org's Wayback Machine. Good odds that they've stored a copy. I'd do it for you and just link to the page, but you don't list the URL...
IME the wayback machine might give you the post body. I tend to need the comments as well, and archive.today can save all that properly. It usually isn't saved already, so you'll have to wait a minute or two. I just use this time to look for other sources.
That’s the problem isn’t it? We used to have forums where people discus things and blogs where people share what they’ve learned, now it is all Reddit and discord and absolute trash in between.
We still have forums and blogs. Search engines just don't both including them in search results.
You need to know about these niche communities, which are increasingly in micro-spaces like Discord or Mastodon channels or unmonitored communities like Lemmy.
Which is more in line with Bad Old Web 1.0 than Good Old Web 1.5
They’re there, but harder to find. And some are closing. I’ve had two or three in the last couple years that closed, in the reasonably popular world of cars.
idk lately ive had more help outside it on random forums, just dont add reddit to your search, like reddit advice used to be s tier now its c tier, when you compare results from advice you get off other forums, a lot of shills, everywhere, like the webhosting related subreddits
There's a good reason for that, VPNs are extensively used by bot networks for all kinds of activity. But VPN use by bots is actually coming down slowly as bot networks start to switch to residential mobile networks - it's impossible to block them and you can cycle connections automatically like you do with VPN when using specialised residential mobile IP providers. So maybe web sites will stop blocking VPNs in a few years.
There might be very niche communities but Lemmy has grown so much in the last year. I would encourage you to search for whatever community you are looking for. You might not find the exact equivalent but you might find a good match.
For example, there may be a /r/3dprinteddildos on reddit but that won't exist here. But I am sure that the 3D community here can point you in the right direction.
Keep in mind how subreddit often got created: when the general community doesn't provide enough content for your niche, the niche community is developed.
/r/gonewild is a great example of this. It went from amateur porn to a cestpool of only fans content. Other subreddits were created to continue the way.
It's the same thing here: find a community that's close and post.
Lemmy is nowhere near the wealth of information available on Reddit. And if we're talking about hobbies, then literally no one gives a shit about Lemmy. The whole of the Fediverse has only 50k daily active users, most of them are on Mastodon. Lemmy is just a tiny fraction of those 50k. The main 3D printing sub alone has more active users than the whole Lemmy.
That leads to a situation where knowledgeable people from the industry and hobby leaders don't post anything here. I'm not even sure many of them even heard of it.
So, if you want some help or to learn something, you either go to specialised forums or to Reddit. Lemmy is for memes and throwing feces at each other. Which is fun.
There is nothing coming close to /r/steroids on Lemmy. The reason that subreddit is so great is that the moderators there are very quick at deleting noob questions that are answered in the wiki, and will quickly call out anyone giving dangerous advice.
Even on reddit the competing subreddits like /r/PEDs and /r/testosterone are absolute garbage that probably got dozens of people killed from a heart attack or stroke at this point
I’m weaning myself off it. Sadly there’s some communities that I’m active in on Reddit that either don’t exist on a federated platform or are so tiny that they’re functionally dead. Hopefully we can grow those communities though - if we want to preserve the internet and our democracies into the future, the cancer that is big tech needs viable alternatives.
The sad part is I still have a lot of random subs I enjoy, fringe stuff like r/OnionLovers and r/slowcooking, r/frugal.. and subs like r/frugal immediately delete any comment that brings up politics in any way, so there are a few decent subs left with non-batshit insane mods but they are becoming exceedingly rare.
It is.. i have lots of shows i watch with communities im an engaged with.. and thats not really here yet.. but bluesky has helped me get off reddit more.. i actually like the platform and lemmy
When google started to index paywalled things.... I thought that was pretty evil. Showing google content but not normal internet users. Giving sites the ability to have their cake and eat it too.
When reddit decided to force logging in to see some subreddits on mobile, I decided they were evil.
This is why I'm on Lemmy posting content, we have to use open platforms if we want them to succeed. This is the first time I've used social media. I'm doing it as a civic duty
Google has (had?) a rule. If a site lets them index their paywalled content, then the site must deliver the full content if the referrer is google.com or else they will de-index the site. So when clicking a link on google, the full article should appear. It was an old trick to just google the article title to find a link and click through to read a paywalled article.
as far as i can tell that policy never existed. The first instance of this was for academic articles being indexed behind a paywall, and they NEVER worked with the referrer being google.
I am surprised I didn't even notice that, I used to use it for when sites changed or were down. I guess there's always internet archive sites if I were so inclined, but still sad.
I read this as "we don't want you, the user, to interact with our 100% user-content driven website that depends on your presence to keep having value".
It's hilarious that you made me curious enough to look up RDDT's stock price today, down 9% today alone lol, -31% in the last 30 days. A third of their stock value lost in the past month, very impressive.
The issue with a VPN is that it's likely that other people using the same exit node are doing something malicious. A site like reddit or a bank or whatever sees a lot of attacks coming from one IP (or a range of IPs) and mark it as malicious.
You'd likely do the same thing with your own site - something like Denyhosts or Crowdsec that blocks people trying to brute force a password will end up blocking anyone else using that same VPN exit IP.
Nobody is doing anything malicious. This didn't start happening until reddit went public and decided to block their API.
What's probably happening is they're worried too many requests are coming from one ip address and you might be scraping their precious data to train your LLM.
If there was any justice their stock would be sliding further into the toilet because the first time anyone saw that notice they just quit going to the site entirely.
How do you know that though? VPNs are very commonly used to send spam, perform ransomware attacks, DDoS attacks, etc.
What’s probably happening is they’re worried too many requests are coming from one ip address and you might be scraping their precious data to train your LLM.
Sometimes part of the content can be seen in the search result page, as the crawler got the content. But when you click inside, you're blocked by the membership wall. Irony?
Me too. I wrote a blog post about it with a similar title and would love some feedback. I'm sure it could be expanded even more to include stuff like this.
I'm on my 5th permban now I think. Some of them were because I logged in with an alt on the same IP by mistake so they flagged it and banned those too. I didn't violate any ToS, they just didn't agree because (I asked ChatGPT to summarize the behavior of reddit mods/admins):
Woke Authoritarianism
This refers to the enforcement of progressive or "woke" ideology through authoritarian means, such as:
Censorship of dissenting views
Cancel culture (public shaming and professional consequences for opposing opinions)
De-platforming (banning people from social media or public forums)
Forced ideological conformity (e.g., requiring adherence to specific beliefs in workplaces or academia)
Thought Policing
This term comes from George Orwell's 1984 and refers to the control and regulation of people's thoughts, often through fear, social pressure, or punishment for wrongthink. In the modern context, it can include:
Policing language to ensure ideological purity
Monitoring people’s statements (even from the past) to punish deviation
Enforcing conformity through intimidation, cancelation, or ostracization
And a followup response:
Authoritarian Leftism – When left-wing ideology is enforced through censorship, suppression of dissent, and ideological purity tests.
Neoprogressivism / Woke Authoritarianism – Some critics use these terms to describe far-left movements that use de-platforming, cancel culture, and corporate-enforced speech restrictions to control discourse.
Cultural Marxism (controversial term) – Some argue that elements of Marxist thought, particularly in cultural institutions, are used to enforce ideological dominance. However, this term is often misused or overgeneralized.
Techno-Authoritarianism – When social media platforms and tech companies enforce ideological conformity through bans, shadowbanning, and algorithmic control.
Soft Totalitarianism (coined by Rod Dreher) – Unlike classic totalitarianism (which uses force and violence), this is a modern, decentralized form of control through social shaming, cancel culture, and corporate censorship.
ChatGPT seems to have hit the nail on the head, I didn't even know "Woke Authoritarianism" was an actual term.
I gave it a list of actions and behaviors by admins/mods on reddit, and asked it what the political ideologies would be considered. That's what ChatGPT spat out. I was curious how its inference would work given a list of behaviors. Hilarious being downvoted for pasting from ChatGPT's inferences though, I'm just the messenger.
It only summarized the behaviors of the mods/admins, not the reddit userbase at large. There's probably Venn diagram between the two but not exactly 100% the same. And things like shadowbanning (listed in the response) are not actions of the users, or political ideologies of the users either, only something a mod can do.
You should get a better VPN. Mine only gives me this rarely, often when I'm using a node that I can assume is where a bunch of prime would use to run bots.
I like Mullvad. Probably the only reason I get the error is there's one country that's a fav, but some sites don't like it because of its privacy restrictions ... which ofc is why it's my fav.
Just putting this out there, if you use startpage you can use the anonymous view feature to get around this :) Obviously avoiding reddit is better but if it's the only available resource...
Yep got banned for saying a politician had to be taken care of. Sure an undertone of violence. But others say they want to do plastic surgery by running over someone's head and nothing happens. I don't get how they enforce rules or does it just depend on which side of the political spectrum.
Observing reddit from a distance (anon accounts, anon email address, anon VPN) it's very clear that it's like watching the Titanic sink or the fall of Rome at this point. It's become a complete cesspool over the last ~5 years but progressively worse at an increasing rate each year.
I posted stuff about politics and my account suddenly couldn't comment. Weird error messages, no actual communication from Reddit about what or why or how long. Decisions about functionality are being made in meetings by people who are absolutely not interested in the users as anything but things whose only value is whether they can be monetized.
They sent me a warning of being flagged and monitored because I upvoted a comment about Luigi. That's how cooked reddit is now. Seriously, only upvoting "rule violating comments", not even commenting myself. Just a button click is all it takes, and they won't tell you which comment or post you upvoted that flagged it so it's like walking through a mine field.
This is the exact arc of enshittification that Cory Doctorow described. Reddit used to be great up to a few years ago, but it's clear that the board is in full-on vampire mode, and they're going to bleed it dry until it's time to parachute.
Ireland works fine here.
Dunno about the shadowban, I still get answers on the occasional thread I create whenever I can't get an answer on Lemmy.
Still, fuck u/spez.
For what it's worth I use PIA and have never been shadowbanned or banned using any endpoint in any country on new accounts there. I use throwaway non-gmail email accounts to segment each account so they can't track between them, all on different VPN endpoints per account. It's sad that this is what it takes to prevent them from stalking me.
I'm not the guy that made the post, but that's the reason it was mildly infuriating. You don't have to like the reason, you don't have to think it's a good reason, but there's no good reason for you to be a dick to someone answering your question.
Sad part is I find a lot of helpful random material (information about cellphone providers, accounts, all sorts of random edge cases in different domains) and still want to look at the threads, and find a lot of help that way. So I just switch to a VM that's on a VPN just to check those. Sucks but some information doesn't exist anywhere else.
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 140 pts · 1y
At some point, the mistake was using Reddit to begin with.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 1y
It was the only search result relevant to my query.
perishthethought@lemm.ee · 24 pts · 1y
Does anyone else remember back in the early days of the internet when experts used to say, "The internet routes around problems".
I miss those early days.
To @daggermoon@lemmy.world , I see that a lot with searches now too but I just keep searching or find some other way around the problem. There's no way I click in to Reddit any more. You do you, but I'm saying there's always another option.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
Honestly the internet will route around the loss of reddit just like it did with the loss of forums and other crowdsourced platforms that have died off over time. Yeah, we will lose a treasure trove of knowledge, but a lot of it was also outdated and the same questions will be asked again so the knowledge can be rebuilt.
lurch@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
forums are still there btw
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Some forums are still around, but a large number of them and their content have disappeared.
RippleEffect@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
The Internet is in fact not forever.
PenyihirEmas@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Beast's lair is still strong and active today!!
towelie@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Reddit is definitely not the final evolution of the internet board. It goes without saying that we can do better. And when a better iteration comes along nobody will even need to ask the Reddit users to switch as theyll naturally migrate like we always have. And then eventually that thing will be decrowned for something better too
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
I only hear people talking about Reddit on Lemmy to be honest
tal@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 1y
Paste it into archive.org's Wayback Machine. Good odds that they've stored a copy. I'd do it for you and just link to the page, but you don't list the URL...
https://web.archive.org/
Tyoda@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 1y
IME the wayback machine might give you the post body. I tend to need the comments as well, and archive.today can save all that properly. It usually isn't saved already, so you'll have to wait a minute or two. I just use this time to look for other sources.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I know about that. I do that sometimes. It just isn't practical every time.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Yeah, the site is great but it's a bit slow and clunky when I need it most.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 1y
That’s the problem isn’t it? We used to have forums where people discus things and blogs where people share what they’ve learned, now it is all Reddit and discord and absolute trash in between.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
We still have forums and blogs. Search engines just don't both including them in search results.
You need to know about these niche communities, which are increasingly in micro-spaces like Discord or Mastodon channels or unmonitored communities like Lemmy.
Which is more in line with Bad Old Web 1.0 than Good Old Web 1.5
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Discord is like gated communities on the internet. Not open to the public and not something that is publically indexed.
It isn't even comparable to mastadon or lemmy when it comes to being a source of information.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1y
They’re there, but harder to find. And some are closing. I’ve had two or three in the last couple years that closed, in the reasonably popular world of cars.
3dmvr@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
idk lately ive had more help outside it on random forums, just dont add reddit to your search, like reddit advice used to be s tier now its c tier, when you compare results from advice you get off other forums, a lot of shills, everywhere, like the webhosting related subreddits
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 1y
This is not a Reddit problem. A lot of websites throw a fucking hissy fit if you have a VPN turned on, and I'm also over it.
Aux@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1y
There's a good reason for that, VPNs are extensively used by bot networks for all kinds of activity. But VPN use by bots is actually coming down slowly as bot networks start to switch to residential mobile networks - it's impossible to block them and you can cycle connections automatically like you do with VPN when using specialised residential mobile IP providers. So maybe web sites will stop blocking VPNs in a few years.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 79 pts · 1y
STOP GOING TO REDDIT!!!!
I can't believe how often I have to say this.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y
There are a few communities on Reddit that aren’t represented on here. So I still go to Reddit some.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
There might be very niche communities but Lemmy has grown so much in the last year. I would encourage you to search for whatever community you are looking for. You might not find the exact equivalent but you might find a good match.
For example, there may be a /r/3dprinteddildos on reddit but that won't exist here. But I am sure that the 3D community here can point you in the right direction.
Keep in mind how subreddit often got created: when the general community doesn't provide enough content for your niche, the niche community is developed.
/r/gonewild is a great example of this. It went from amateur porn to a cestpool of only fans content. Other subreddits were created to continue the way.
It's the same thing here: find a community that's close and post.
Aux@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 1y
Lemmy is nowhere near the wealth of information available on Reddit. And if we're talking about hobbies, then literally no one gives a shit about Lemmy. The whole of the Fediverse has only 50k daily active users, most of them are on Mastodon. Lemmy is just a tiny fraction of those 50k. The main 3D printing sub alone has more active users than the whole Lemmy.
That leads to a situation where knowledgeable people from the industry and hobby leaders don't post anything here. I'm not even sure many of them even heard of it.
So, if you want some help or to learn something, you either go to specialised forums or to Reddit. Lemmy is for memes and throwing feces at each other. Which is fun.
Anivia@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
There is nothing coming close to /r/steroids on Lemmy. The reason that subreddit is so great is that the moderators there are very quick at deleting noob questions that are answered in the wiki, and will quickly call out anyone giving dangerous advice.
Even on reddit the competing subreddits like /r/PEDs and /r/testosterone are absolute garbage that probably got dozens of people killed from a heart attack or stroke at this point
silverlose@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 1y
I’m trying to convince people to check out Lemmy but it’s hard. People are so stuck in their ways. I’ll keep trying though
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
People are still on X even after their owner gave a Nazi salute on national television.
silverlose@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
It blows my mind everyday
Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 1y
I've stopped casually browsing Reddit but sometimes it's the only way to get somewhat decent search results
quack@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1y
I’m weaning myself off it. Sadly there’s some communities that I’m active in on Reddit that either don’t exist on a federated platform or are so tiny that they’re functionally dead. Hopefully we can grow those communities though - if we want to preserve the internet and our democracies into the future, the cancer that is big tech needs viable alternatives.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
The sad part is I still have a lot of random subs I enjoy, fringe stuff like r/OnionLovers and r/slowcooking, r/frugal.. and subs like r/frugal immediately delete any comment that brings up politics in any way, so there are a few decent subs left with non-batshit insane mods but they are becoming exceedingly rare.
Ironfist@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
It's an addiction, it's hard to break.
VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
It is. What helped me was deleting my account and removing my patched boost app. Now I only browse it through mobile Firefox with ublock.
It's annoying as shit to use, so I don't use it often. But when I do they get nothing from me. Win-win.
SpitefulSprite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
It is.. i have lots of shows i watch with communities im an engaged with.. and thats not really here yet.. but bluesky has helped me get off reddit more.. i actually like the platform and lemmy
PenyihirEmas@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y
Lemmy is not grown yet,so yeah i'm forced to use reddit.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 58 pts · 1y
How's the search engine supposed to know you're blocked from Reddit?
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y
Good point, Reddit is the real problem.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
"THE MACHINE KNOWS"
jet@hackertalks.com · 54 pts · 1y
When google started to index paywalled things.... I thought that was pretty evil. Showing google content but not normal internet users. Giving sites the ability to have their cake and eat it too.
When reddit decided to force logging in to see some subreddits on mobile, I decided they were evil.
This is why I'm on Lemmy posting content, we have to use open platforms if we want them to succeed. This is the first time I've used social media. I'm doing it as a civic duty
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Google has (had?) a rule. If a site lets them index their paywalled content, then the site must deliver the full content if the referrer is google.com or else they will de-index the site. So when clicking a link on google, the full article should appear. It was an old trick to just google the article title to find a link and click through to read a paywalled article.
Is that policy gone now?
jet@hackertalks.com · 6 pts · 1y
as far as i can tell that policy never existed. The first instance of this was for academic articles being indexed behind a paywall, and they NEVER worked with the referrer being google.
hayes_@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
It's been that long?
That's depressing for a few reasons
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I am surprised I didn't even notice that, I used to use it for when sites changed or were down. I guess there's always internet archive sites if I were so inclined, but still sad.
cley_faye@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 1y
I read this as "we don't want you, the user, to interact with our 100% user-content driven website that depends on your presence to keep having value".
OpenStars@piefed.social · 37 pts · 1y
It did not used to be this way. Every website result used to be "cached", but not anymore...
Enshittification 😔
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 1y
that's on you for preventing the billion dollar company from tracking your every move ;)
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
It's hilarious that you made me curious enough to look up RDDT's stock price today, down 9% today alone lol, -31% in the last 30 days. A third of their stock value lost in the past month, very impressive.
quack@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 1y
Dogshit website anyway.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 1y
That happens on some VPNs
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1y
"shouldn't happen all the time on VPNs
Safety and privacy for companies, but not for users. Just because it is, doesn't mean it has to, or even should be.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
It happens more often than not with Mullvad.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Yep. I too Mullvad
badbrainstorm@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I use Mullvad, and I have learned a bunch of server locations to use that haven't been blocked yet
crawlspace@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
I only tend to run into it with Reddit and Hulu with Mullvad
dan@upvote.au · 2 pts · 1y
The issue with a VPN is that it's likely that other people using the same exit node are doing something malicious. A site like reddit or a bank or whatever sees a lot of attacks coming from one IP (or a range of IPs) and mark it as malicious.
You'd likely do the same thing with your own site - something like Denyhosts or Crowdsec that blocks people trying to brute force a password will end up blocking anyone else using that same VPN exit IP.
socialmedia@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
Nobody is doing anything malicious. This didn't start happening until reddit went public and decided to block their API.
What's probably happening is they're worried too many requests are coming from one ip address and you might be scraping their precious data to train your LLM.
If there was any justice their stock would be sliding further into the toilet because the first time anyone saw that notice they just quit going to the site entirely.
dan@upvote.au · -2 pts · 1y
How do you know that though? VPNs are very commonly used to send spam, perform ransomware attacks, DDoS attacks, etc.
This is definitely also a possibility.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
It happens all the time with me, I see it as a blessing.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 25 pts · 1y
safereddit.com baby!
There's a firefox plugin that can translate to free frontend links and you could do that as well through pihole.
DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
Can’t believe I forgot about this. Lurking is so much better from there.
parmesan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
What's the Firefox plugin?
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
My bad: https://libredirect.github.io/
Rooty@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
The fedora tells you everything.
Hupf@feddit.org · 13 pts · 1y
I wear a fez now. Fezzes are cool.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 1y
Sounds like a you problem
closes ticket
Lunar_Voyager@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Shanmugha@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
Well, fine with me. Closing one tab is no big deal, let the website die
samus12345@lemm.ee · 20 pts · 1y
M'lady
Rin@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
You know a site is good when its mascot makes you feel intense uncontrollable rage deep in your soul.
HappinessPill@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 1y
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 1y
Sometimes part of the content can be seen in the search result page, as the crawler got the content. But when you click inside, you're blocked by the membership wall. Irony?
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
I consider this more of a feature than a bug.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
Me too. I wrote a blog post about it with a similar title and would love some feedback. I'm sure it could be expanded even more to include stuff like this.
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Nice blog you have there. I appreciate the content and will be passing it around a bit.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Appreciate that. Got a backlog of 200+ topics I still need to write about, so little by little.
some_random_nick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I wouldn't expand it any further, as it already covers most of the important stuff. Far more people have to deal with Google's bs than use R*ddit.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Fair enough. Sometimes it can make a difference though (speaking someone's specific platform language). But yeah, I get it.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1y
I love how every website leans on JavaScript as a crutch.
Wait. No I don't.
tauren@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 1y
I was surprised when I found out that reuters.com blocks mullvad vpn.
Rin@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Just switch servers once or twice, usually works for me.
tauren@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
I use archive.is if I really need to read one of their articles. My point is, it is strange that they block read-only access like that.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Interesting that a news site would block a VPN.
Aux@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1y
Bots use VPNs a lot for scrapping and other activities.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y
Interesting that you consider reddit a news site.
quack@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
I think they mean Reuters.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
I loosely consider Reuters a news site. At least partly a comic book.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
They likely just use a block list.
If a not was using the vpn server you connected to then it ends up on the list for a few days.
shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 1y
Spez deserves to be slapped
waxy@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1y
Spez deserves to be Luigi'd
LostXOR@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1y
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Rule 1 ToS violation -- permban.
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 1y
> Reddit
🤢🤮
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 1y
I'm on my 5th permban now I think. Some of them were because I logged in with an alt on the same IP by mistake so they flagged it and banned those too. I didn't violate any ToS, they just didn't agree because (I asked ChatGPT to summarize the behavior of reddit mods/admins):
Woke Authoritarianism
This refers to the enforcement of progressive or "woke" ideology through authoritarian means, such as:
Thought Policing
This term comes from George Orwell's 1984 and refers to the control and regulation of people's thoughts, often through fear, social pressure, or punishment for wrongthink. In the modern context, it can include:
And a followup response:
Authoritarian Leftism – When left-wing ideology is enforced through censorship, suppression of dissent, and ideological purity tests.
Neoprogressivism / Woke Authoritarianism – Some critics use these terms to describe far-left movements that use de-platforming, cancel culture, and corporate-enforced speech restrictions to control discourse.
Cultural Marxism (controversial term) – Some argue that elements of Marxist thought, particularly in cultural institutions, are used to enforce ideological dominance. However, this term is often misused or overgeneralized.
Techno-Authoritarianism – When social media platforms and tech companies enforce ideological conformity through bans, shadowbanning, and algorithmic control.
Soft Totalitarianism (coined by Rod Dreher) – Unlike classic totalitarianism (which uses force and violence), this is a modern, decentralized form of control through social shaming, cancel culture, and corporate censorship.
ChatGPT seems to have hit the nail on the head, I didn't even know "Woke Authoritarianism" was an actual term.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
Err what?
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
I gave it a list of actions and behaviors by admins/mods on reddit, and asked it what the political ideologies would be considered. That's what ChatGPT spat out. I was curious how its inference would work given a list of behaviors. Hilarious being downvoted for pasting from ChatGPT's inferences though, I'm just the messenger.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
That's NOT the summary I would expect after the feedback of newcomers from the last wave.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
It only summarized the behaviors of the mods/admins, not the reddit userbase at large. There's probably Venn diagram between the two but not exactly 100% the same. And things like shadowbanning (listed in the response) are not actions of the users, or political ideologies of the users either, only something a mod can do.
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 1y
You missed my point but hey, thanks for the LLM bullshit about woke authoritarianism.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I didn't even know that term existed, it's the one that told me about it, I only copied and pasted it.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 15 pts · 1y
Happens to me all the time on a VPN.
It isn't every IP. I just change tunnels.
DicJacobus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
file a ticket.
nodiratime@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Yeah, I questioned the second and third temp bans they gave me. After the last (so, the third) they banned me. I suspect it's because I was asking.
Their reasons of course were bullshit, for every single ban (which they confirmed were correctly issued... Morons).
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1y
I always get that screen when I forget to turn off my VPN while accessing a reddit quote.
hansolo@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
You should get a better VPN. Mine only gives me this rarely, often when I'm using a node that I can assume is where a bunch of prime would use to run bots.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
I like Mullvad. Probably the only reason I get the error is there's one country that's a fav, but some sites don't like it because of its privacy restrictions ... which ofc is why it's my fav.
DeeBeeDouble@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 1y
Just putting this out there, if you use startpage you can use the anonymous view feature to get around this :) Obviously avoiding reddit is better but if it's the only available resource...
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1y
File a ticket!
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 1y
Just use a different vpn server...
ameancow@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
misteloct@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
ameancow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
dmention7@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals."
Auli@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
Yep got banned for saying a politician had to be taken care of. Sure an undertone of violence. But others say they want to do plastic surgery by running over someone's head and nothing happens. I don't get how they enforce rules or does it just depend on which side of the political spectrum.
misteloct@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
tacobellhop@midwest.social · 5 pts · 1y
Just for a tack on to this everybody needs to be aware of contentcyborg.ai
Nothing digital is real. Digital reality is a distraction. They burned the libraries.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
tacobellhop@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
The internet is a opium drip now nothing more
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Observing reddit from a distance (anon accounts, anon email address, anon VPN) it's very clear that it's like watching the Titanic sink or the fall of Rome at this point. It's become a complete cesspool over the last ~5 years but progressively worse at an increasing rate each year.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
I posted stuff about politics and my account suddenly couldn't comment. Weird error messages, no actual communication from Reddit about what or why or how long. Decisions about functionality are being made in meetings by people who are absolutely not interested in the users as anything but things whose only value is whether they can be monetized.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
They sent me a warning of being flagged and monitored because I upvoted a comment about Luigi. That's how cooked reddit is now. Seriously, only upvoting "rule violating comments", not even commenting myself. Just a button click is all it takes, and they won't tell you which comment or post you upvoted that flagged it so it's like walking through a mine field.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
This is the exact arc of enshittification that Cory Doctorow described. Reddit used to be great up to a few years ago, but it's clear that the board is in full-on vampire mode, and they're going to bleed it dry until it's time to parachute.
bUt ThErE's CuTe AlIeNs EvErYwHeRe ^ __________ ^
misteloct@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 1y
Fucking vpn blocking cowards.
Dop@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Ireland works fine here. Dunno about the shadowban, I still get answers on the occasional thread I create whenever I can't get an answer on Lemmy. Still, fuck u/spez.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
For what it's worth I use PIA and have never been shadowbanned or banned using any endpoint in any country on new accounts there. I use throwaway non-gmail email accounts to segment each account so they can't track between them, all on different VPN endpoints per account. It's sad that this is what it takes to prevent them from stalking me.
xektop@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
That is an easy way to make less traffic from people that don't really care. When I see it, I close the page and look for the next result.
If you really need to know what is written there I guess you can Log in or use redlib or something like that.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
This is the reason I never had a twitter account. Why would I bother making an account if I don't know why I would want one in the first place?
Tiger@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
When that happens I use the summarize with AI feature from Kagi and it does a good job describing the page.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 1y
At least they told you you're blocked, instead of just making random parts of it not work with zero communication
tyrant@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
I just found a Firefox extension that let's you open these blocked pages in archive. Pretty excited to bypass the bs of VPN blocks
Lunar_Voyager@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
tyrant@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Web archives
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Thanks, this looks sweet.
Shape4985@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1y
Yep, i get the same thing
Youtube also blocks me in a similar way.
pneumatron@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
For vpn use? Or what else?
DempstersBox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I get that from searches on ddg, no vpn.
RDX still works, it the only way I can search reddit now
Shape4985@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Using a firefox fork browser and sometimes a vpn.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
Thankfully Redlib exists.
john_lemmy@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1y
This sometimes also helps when I need a result from reddit: https://github.com/corenting/eddrit
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Thank you, I love you!
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
Kinda like when google news shows links to paywalled articles.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yes, that's exactly how I feel.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
What does the search engine have to do with your reddit account/vpn?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
they're showing the links, but you can't access them.
It is the fault of the site being dicks, but the search engines make the problem more annoying
TachyonTele@lemm.ee · -6 pts · 1y
Did you call the search engine and tell them you were banned from that one site?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Look, dick, you asked a question, I explained it.
I'm not the guy that made the post, but that's the reason it was mildly infuriating. You don't have to like the reason, you don't have to think it's a good reason, but there's no good reason for you to be a dick to someone answering your question.
So, you know, fuck off
TachyonTele@lemm.ee · -3 pts · 1y
Take a breather
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
"Choose your cookie preferences to continue"
Marthirial@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
This, primarily, is the reason I am paying for Kagi. It allows you to hide shit sites, AKA reddit from search results.
TangledHyphae@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Sad part is I find a lot of helpful random material (information about cellphone providers, accounts, all sorts of random edge cases in different domains) and still want to look at the threads, and find a lot of help that way. So I just switch to a VM that's on a VPN just to check those. Sucks but some information doesn't exist anywhere else.
feiras@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit-instances/blob/master/instances.md < for me it works if I search the post link on one of these
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
I get this too from time to time and usually refreshing my VPN fixes it. This is a bug of somekind.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I get the same screen anytime I use any VPN server.