The current president has already set a precedent that politically motivated violence is a valid form of protest and free speech that doesn't warrant prosecution. Up until that the precedents were much different.
Yeah but the current president means politically motivated violence perpetuated against the left is only valid. Violence towards the right, and him especially, is considered treason and subject to ICE detention.
Right wing voters still want to suck corporate dick, it's just that health insurance also screws them over in such an obvious way that they get a momentary, and very limited, flash of understanding. And so far nobody seems to have figured out a narrative of how to blame it on the left.
Whatever happened to Hillary Clinton’s basement pizza pedophiles? Where’s the CNN FOX NEWS update on that? Remember there were all these tunnels? Where they were raping children?
Whatever happened to Hillary Clinton’s basement pizza pedophiles?
Whats interesting is when either american party find the other doing something they themselves r involved in, silence. They'll bitch, complain and cry about everything but what acc matters, but when it's corruption on an unprecedented scale, paedophilia or literally anything else they cry about Mexicans being to blame for Hunter Biden's crack addiction. Makes you think 🤔 It's so obvious both parties are the same establishment, the washington establishment. 'Drain the swamp' my arse, you ARE the swamp.
Apparently the whole pizza thing didn't really have enough evidence to hold any real weight but you can't really expect much better from a woman married to a paedo drug kingpin.
Hunter's daddy pardoned him whilst locking up record numbers of minorities. Idk what the DNC is but sure man. Point is the United Slaves of Israel's a 2-party pseudo-democratic state in which no matter who u vote for, the same people stay in power. The politicians are js the puppets, and I'm not even js talking abt Israel, I'm talking abt broadly Washington as a whole.
I'm not american bro, no need to assume everyone is mate. Some of you lot seem to believe everyone is for some reason. I bet you couldn't tell me putin or netanyahu's ministers of defence off the dome or literally anything abt their political systems, yet I guarantee you'd still be inclined to having your own opinion on both of their dictatorships just like I do Trump's.
The same people inclined to butt their heads into literally everything that's not their business internationally seem to get very offended when someone who's not american says anything abt the shitshow happening in their own country.
i think i'm starting to understand those movies Journey To The Center Of The Earth and At The Earth's Core and that obsession. At one point we were actually digging just to see how fucking deep we could dig, and that's pretty neat when you think about it.
In this insanity-fueled nightmare we call existence, I've recently agreed with a Cheney and MTG. Even a rabid psychotic rat can be right twice a day, or something.
She's on MeidasTouch sometimes, she was an original talking head witht them from the start, always enjoyed her takes. Her ads she had to do were always funny too, feels like she's sort of in on the joke about the absurdity of a lawyer hawking a random product but its all good, clean, lawyerly fun 99% of the time plus a day
by the way, TRUMPS court cases was bankrolled by billionaires, and people hot dog skin hogan was bankrolled by THIEL during his lawsuit against gawker. this is no different.
I think you answered you own question there. If you think that's the biggest hole in your theory about a hired government assassin, crooked judges and a diddy prosecutor who's arguing for the death penalty, then I don't think you've thought through your theory that much.
This conspiracy theory is so fascinating to me because it gets more and more elaborate as time goes on. At first it was "Luigi was framed because they needed a culprit fast" now it's this giant spy movie plot. This is nearing QAnon levels of stupidity. Why is it so hard to believe someone just got driven crazy by the sheer absurdity and cruelty of our medical system and finally snapped and shot someone? Why does it have to be this massive plot involving corporate assassins and shit? Is it just because the pictures of the suspect were grainy and at a weird angle so they don't look exactly like other pictures of Luigi, and everything else is to explain why he was arrested and why his lawyers haven't used this stuff in his defense?
I think the biggest issue is this guy was smart enough to not show his face, have preset places to swap bags/etc., yet gets caught with the gun and other identifying things on him multiple days later.
It all just seems so weird.
Also, Im probably not caught up on everything, but without the evidence they found on him there isn't even really a case.
This article about tracking people using WiFi caught my eye. And Apple somehow enabled facial recognition while wearing a mask during Covid. I’m sure the various national security agencies already have access to countless similar technologies that we won’t know about for a least a decade.
I just don’t think it’s all that far fetched to believe they just tracked this guy across multiple states. Maybe they did plant the evidence, that’s something cops have been doing for many years.
Apple didn’t enable facial recognition with a mask during COVID.
At first it didn’t work with a mask, then they changed it so that it went to the passcode screen.
Next they allowed it to unlock if you had a mask on and Apple Watch.
Finally they reworked FaceId to allow unlocking with a mask by making it focus more on the parts of the face it could see, although this was less secure and a compromise for convenience.
“If you're wearing a face mask or potentially other face coverings, Face ID with a mask can analyze the unique characteristics around your eyes. When using Face ID with a mask, you can still use Face ID to authenticate apps, unlock your iPhone, and use Apple Pay.”
While there are a lot of crazy ways to identify someone, most of those only work in ideal or repeated situations.
For example Iphones faceid requires special cameras and for you to scan your face with the cameras before it can work.
Its obvious from the videos and photos of the incident that there isn't quality footage of the events, meaning the quality of any tracking software is greatly degraded (otherwise we could solve all crimes). Since all tracking/identification software works on probabilities, that's not a strong case to make that you've ID the right person.
Maybe the iPhone thing is a bad example, but I do think there are probably spy satellites up there that could count the hairs on your head if they wanted to. I’m not saying these agencies are efficient, or even marginally effective in the most general sense of the word, but I believe they could accomplish mind-bending feats when focused on a singular enemy of the ruling class.
And anyway, you’re making these assessments of the technology in the context of what’s available to the consumer. The crux of my argument is that we’re always at least one, maybe several, decades behind the military industrial complex.
“You must be new around these parts.” There is no higher form of American free speech than the all holy dollar. Most Americans don’t even question that logic.
Most Americans question that logic, but, as money is speech, anyone who questions it in a public forum gets shouted down by those who can afford to speak more "freely".
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DrFistington@lemmy.world · 235 pts · 364d
The current president has already set a precedent that politically motivated violence is a valid form of protest and free speech that doesn't warrant prosecution. Up until that the precedents were much different.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 63 pts · 364d
Yeah but the current president means politically motivated violence perpetuated against the left is only valid. Violence towards the right, and him especially, is considered treason and subject to ICE detention.
artifex@piefed.social · 53 pts · 364d
Except everybody hates health insurance execs. It’s like the one thing we can all agree on.
Krono@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 363d
Why limit yourself to "health insurance" execs?
They are among the most egregious execs, but the capitalist rot has infected the entire system, not just one industry.
bampop@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 363d
Right wing voters still want to suck corporate dick, it's just that health insurance also screws them over in such an obvious way that they get a momentary, and very limited, flash of understanding. And so far nobody seems to have figured out a narrative of how to blame it on the left.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 364d
B---B---B---BINGO.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 364d
Yeah, if you are Neo Nazi that founds a hate group connected to multiple murders, get caught with bomb making supplies, and go on the run with a carful of unregistered guns, you get five years in prison so you can be released to plan another terrorist attack.
And everyone forgets the Fourtiers, who helped Timothy McVeigh and then got put in witness protection so that our tax dollars go to protecting them!
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 364d
That’s the way this country has always been
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 364d
Well he considers both types of violence speech, it's just you only have free speech to agree with him
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 364d
Sure, but only if you let him stack the cards against you. Why should you honor someone who doesn't even honor your law?
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 364d
Whatever happened to Hillary Clinton’s basement pizza pedophiles? Where’s the CNN FOX NEWS update on that? Remember there were all these tunnels? Where they were raping children?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 363d
it was epstein's island all along.
Charlxmagne@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d
Whats interesting is when either american party find the other doing something they themselves r involved in, silence. They'll bitch, complain and cry about everything but what acc matters, but when it's corruption on an unprecedented scale, paedophilia or literally anything else they cry about Mexicans being to blame for Hunter Biden's crack addiction. Makes you think 🤔 It's so obvious both parties are the same establishment, the washington establishment. 'Drain the swamp' my arse, you ARE the swamp.
Apparently the whole pizza thing didn't really have enough evidence to hold any real weight but you can't really expect much better from a woman married to a paedo drug kingpin.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d
Hunter Biden wasn't an elected official. Also, the DNC pushed out Al Franklin over his "scandal", although that was probably just a pretense.
Charlxmagne@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d
Hunter's daddy pardoned him whilst locking up record numbers of minorities. Idk what the DNC is but sure man. Point is the United Slaves of Israel's a 2-party pseudo-democratic state in which no matter who u vote for, the same people stay in power. The politicians are js the puppets, and I'm not even js talking abt Israel, I'm talking abt broadly Washington as a whole.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d
If you don't know what the DNC is or can even use complete words, maybe you should take a step back from politics.
Charlxmagne@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d
I'm not american bro, no need to assume everyone is mate. Some of you lot seem to believe everyone is for some reason. I bet you couldn't tell me putin or netanyahu's ministers of defence off the dome or literally anything abt their political systems, yet I guarantee you'd still be inclined to having your own opinion on both of their dictatorships just like I do Trump's.
The same people inclined to butt their heads into literally everything that's not their business internationally seem to get very offended when someone who's not american says anything abt the shitshow happening in their own country.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d
I didn't assume you were an American. I assumed you were a child.
bizzle@lemmy.world · 152 pts · 364d
Luigi for President, I don't know anything about his personal politics but he's gotta be better than Trump
FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works · 136 pts · 364d
He has a few ideas about healthcare I can get behind.
Nougat@fedia.io · 23 pts · 364d
Key word here being “behind”.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 364d
Ha
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 364d
The fact he allegedly started attacking from the top down is good enough for me 1000%. Fuck all this "poor people are the problem" nonsense.
hypeerror@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 363d
He shot a man on 5th avenue and his popularity went up.
pyre@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 363d
wow, callback to season 1
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 364d
And if he happens to commit felonies then he's on track to be president
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 364d
That bar is buried in the deepest mineshaft ever dug.
VonReposti@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 364d
I'd say the Kola Superdeep Borehole located in Russia
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 364d
i think i'm starting to understand those movies Journey To The Center Of The Earth and At The Earth's Core and that obsession. At one point we were actually digging just to see how fucking deep we could dig, and that's pretty neat when you think about it.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 364d
Better than most Americans.
He's the only one that actually did something, unlike the people crying about Trump on social media.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 363d
Except he isn't the shooter.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
something can be a lot.
Obviously Luigi should be free.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 362d
If he runs for president they should drop the charges because that would make the trial political persecution.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 363d
Murder is only cute when republicans do it. It’s less adorable and downright dangerous when someone with a name like “Mangione” does it.
morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com · -2 pts · 364d
I seem to recall he agreed with Tucker Carlson about something economics-related, which gives me pause
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 363d
In this insanity-fueled nightmare we call existence, I've recently agreed with a Cheney and MTG. Even a rabid psychotic rat can be right twice a day, or something.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 97 pts · 364d
Luigi needs a presidential pardon, then run for office.
teft@piefed.social · 164 pts · 364d
He should just run. The current guy is a convicted felon and luigi didn’t do anything.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 364d
Also the current guy had most of his criminal cases thrown out because he was running for president.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 363d
and billionaires were bankrolling his lawyers.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 364d
They were only dropped once he was declared the winner.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 364d
A distinction without a difference when they were delayed because he was running.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
He'd never get one from Trump, I'd suspect
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 88 pts · 364d
All im reading here is Luigi is a candidate and can recieve any amount of money possible.
Where do i vote yes?
PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 364d
Good strategy from him attorney.
I mean it's kind of obvious, but still.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 364d
His attorney is absolutely top tier talent, and extremely well respected.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 364d
She's on MeidasTouch sometimes, she was an original talking head witht them from the start, always enjoyed her takes. Her ads she had to do were always funny too, feels like she's sort of in on the joke about the absurdity of a lawyer hawking a random product but its all good, clean, lawyerly fun 99% of the time plus a day
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 69 pts · 363d
by the way, TRUMPS court cases was bankrolled by billionaires, and people hot dog skin hogan was bankrolled by THIEL during his lawsuit against gawker. this is no different.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 363d
I find it to be better when 50,000 people put $1 then when 1 person put $50,000.
One says I have a rich guy that supports me, the other says a large number of people support me for one reason or another.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 363d
And his voters. And the RNC.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 364d
"gee I wonder why people are so upset"
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 363d
The peasants are revolting
zululove@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 364d
Luigi isn’t the killer, he is just the fall guy.
He might be a government assassin, or a corporate assassin. We do live in an oligarchy so these billionaires control the courts.
He appears in court wearing the same outfit as other assassins.
This shits a movie bro.
He isn’t going to prison. He will get a diddy prosecutor and crooked judge.
Biggest hole in my theory? Why was he allowed to be caught.
dellish@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 364d
I think you answered you own question there. If you think that's the biggest hole in your theory about a hired government assassin, crooked judges and a diddy prosecutor who's arguing for the death penalty, then I don't think you've thought through your theory that much.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 363d
This conspiracy theory is so fascinating to me because it gets more and more elaborate as time goes on. At first it was "Luigi was framed because they needed a culprit fast" now it's this giant spy movie plot. This is nearing QAnon levels of stupidity. Why is it so hard to believe someone just got driven crazy by the sheer absurdity and cruelty of our medical system and finally snapped and shot someone? Why does it have to be this massive plot involving corporate assassins and shit? Is it just because the pictures of the suspect were grainy and at a weird angle so they don't look exactly like other pictures of Luigi, and everything else is to explain why he was arrested and why his lawyers haven't used this stuff in his defense?
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 363d
I think the biggest issue is this guy was smart enough to not show his face, have preset places to swap bags/etc., yet gets caught with the gun and other identifying things on him multiple days later.
It all just seems so weird.
Also, Im probably not caught up on everything, but without the evidence they found on him there isn't even really a case.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 363d
This article about tracking people using WiFi caught my eye. And Apple somehow enabled facial recognition while wearing a mask during Covid. I’m sure the various national security agencies already have access to countless similar technologies that we won’t know about for a least a decade.
I just don’t think it’s all that far fetched to believe they just tracked this guy across multiple states. Maybe they did plant the evidence, that’s something cops have been doing for many years.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 363d
Apple didn’t enable facial recognition with a mask during COVID.
At first it didn’t work with a mask, then they changed it so that it went to the passcode screen.
Next they allowed it to unlock if you had a mask on and Apple Watch.
Finally they reworked FaceId to allow unlocking with a mask by making it focus more on the parts of the face it could see, although this was less secure and a compromise for convenience.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 363d
You must know something Apple doesn’t.
“If you're wearing a face mask or potentially other face coverings, Face ID with a mask can analyze the unique characteristics around your eyes. When using Face ID with a mask, you can still use Face ID to authenticate apps, unlock your iPhone, and use Apple Pay.”
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102452
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 363d
Which is what I said. It focuses on other areas and is less secure.
Yeah I worked there during this period.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d
I don’t think personal device security would be an issue when illegally tracking a fugitive…
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 363d
While there are a lot of crazy ways to identify someone, most of those only work in ideal or repeated situations.
For example Iphones faceid requires special cameras and for you to scan your face with the cameras before it can work.
Its obvious from the videos and photos of the incident that there isn't quality footage of the events, meaning the quality of any tracking software is greatly degraded (otherwise we could solve all crimes). Since all tracking/identification software works on probabilities, that's not a strong case to make that you've ID the right person.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
Maybe the iPhone thing is a bad example, but I do think there are probably spy satellites up there that could count the hairs on your head if they wanted to. I’m not saying these agencies are efficient, or even marginally effective in the most general sense of the word, but I believe they could accomplish mind-bending feats when focused on a singular enemy of the ruling class.
And anyway, you’re making these assessments of the technology in the context of what’s available to the consumer. The crux of my argument is that we’re always at least one, maybe several, decades behind the military industrial complex.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 363d
Technically that's a plutocracy.
reliv3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 363d
Technically, you're both correct. Plutocracy is a type of Oligarchy.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 363d
Nowadays they call it a dwarf plutocracy.
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 363d
Pluto is a dog
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 363d
And not a planet.
SpookyLights@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 363d
ReiRose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
In my house it still is. Im selective about which childhood traumas I pass on
markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 363d
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 363d
YES! Let’s have this debate!
Nightlight17776@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 364d
Luigi for president. Hell yes
AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 363d
This November, write in 'Luigi'
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 364d
Anyone have the legit fundraiser link?
Please just message me with it... It's probably "against the rules" to publicize it.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 364d
Is there a link to the interview?
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 364d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwGcVq1z5Do
HiddenPotential@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 364d
Bribery is not speech
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 27 pts · 364d
“You must be new around these parts.” There is no higher form of American free speech than the all holy dollar. Most Americans don’t even question that logic.
Awkwardly_Frank@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 364d
Most Americans question that logic, but, as money is speech, anyone who questions it in a public forum gets shouted down by those who can afford to speak more
"freely".HiddenPotential@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 363d
I know about the green paper with God's name written on it
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 363d
“In God we Trust.” $ Cha-Ching! $
HiddenPotential@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 362d
in Sin they trust
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 364d
The only reason why the US is not considered an illiterate country.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 364d
This is pretty old, from the time he was arrested: