‘They Are at War With Us!’ Fox News’ Jesse Watters Denounces ‘All These Rats’ After Charlie Kirk Assassination

https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/they-are-at-war-with-us-fox-news-jesse-watters-denounces-all-these-rats-after-charlie-kirk-assassination/

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spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 309 pts · 342d (18 replies)

The Minnesota political assassinations were less than 3 months ago.

These fuckers are just freaked out that the people they encourage their followers to shoot may be starting to shoot back.

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 146 pts · 342d (8 replies)

We didn't know who shot Kirk. The last few attempts on Republicans were also conducted by Republicans.

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 83 pts · 342d (4 replies)

Maga was spreading the news that the shooter was a liberal within minutes. The vast majority will believe that they're under attack by liberals despite any news or facts to the contrary. Anything else will be viewed as another conspiracy.

Reality is not a place where Maga and Fox News live.

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 342d

I'm aware they'll lie about. Just saying we shouldn't boost that narrative. Not while no one knows who did this

13igTyme@piefed.social · 20 pts · 342d

The shooter could be a live long Republican with the parents, spouse, and kids all being Republicans. They could have the dog trained to attack minorities and they could be someone that was very publicly vocal about every and all Republican talking points.

But they'd find a single photo where they are wearing a blue shirt and say they've secretly been a Democrat all their life.

AlexLost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Even if it turns out to be a liberal, that'd make what, 1 in 10 shooters being on the left? 1 in 100? It's clearly a lefty gun epidemic. If only Republicans could read... Also, no one will ever be caught for this one. That way they can speculate to high heaven and never be wrong.

BanMe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d

If it doesn't matter if the shooter is conservative, it doesn't matter if the shooter is progressive.

We need to stop making things matter when they don't. Who cares what the shooter was. They never do.

ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 342d (2 replies)
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pivot_root@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 342d

Or brainwashed by leftists. The idea of a Republican harming a Republican seems to short-circuit them, like a robot with a paradox.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d

Yep. I saw someone comment on the shooting earlier today on one of the mainstream articles - first commenter says "liberal violence needs to stop", next commenter says "both attempts on donnie were Republicans", third commenter denies that (I'm pretty sure the shooter that broke glass near donnie was a con, not sure about the other guy that set up a backpack near one of his golf courses, but he didn't even get off a shot).

They already think the guy that had Taco wearing that performative bandage for weeks on end because of broken glass nearby was a liberal.

Facts don't matter to these clowns. At all.

NJSpradlin@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 342d (2 replies)
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No_Eponym@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Certainly he will be the matter they use to unify the Republicans and move on from the Epstein Files

NJSpradlin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d
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dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth · 37 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Minnesota*

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 342d

Gracias. Multitasking is hard.

DrFistington@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 342d (1 reply)

It's probably a disgruntled MAGAt, although the fact that they are still at large probably means they are too smart to have been a MAGAt.

Then again, if it were a white male with a red hat they probably could have slipped in and out pretty easily. Has anyone done the math on how far the shot was?

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 342d

IMO it doesn't matter who it is any more than it matters that vaccines are safe, Magats will make up their own story. 20 years of social media saying the guy's a hard right nutcase will just be considered a liberal conspiracy.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 342d

"Hey! You guys are supposed to be the ones against guns! You're not allowed to shoot US!"

We keep telling them that they aren't the only ones with guns, but they don't believe it. And I'll bet we're more competent with them as well.

Frenchys_prospecting@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 342d

100%

aramis87@fedia.io · 212 pts · 342d (8 replies)

Funny how when a liberal politician is shot, they've been "killed", but when a conservative influencer is shot, it's "assassination".

crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 342d

Lmao it's like "private healthcare" and "government-run healthcare"

You fucks don't get to mix both, either way public/private or say government-run/corporate-run healthcare

Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Isn't the word "assassinate" reserved for elected officials? Why tf is the media using this language for this jabroni who was a civilian?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

No, monarchs and heirs can be assassinated as can appointed officials. It refers to all public figures killed for reasons relating to their being a public figure

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 341d

And the liberal that was killed was literally assassinated.

We still have no idea who shot Charlie Kirk, or why.

rigatti@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 342d (3 replies)
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aramis87@fedia.io · 42 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Most recently, that guy who shot four people in Minnesota (two politicians and their spouses), killing one couple and leaving the other pair wounded.

rigatti@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Saw the post below right after I said that. Totally forgot about it. News is kind of flooded with shit every day, it's so hard to even remember major events like that.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 342d

And that's EXACTLY what this regime is going for.

Yes, regime. This is not a democratic administration.

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 121 pts · 342d (12 replies)

And this is not a controversial person. This is not polarizing guy, a divisive person

He's like Socrates

Fox News hosts are simply unbearable.

LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 342d (4 replies)

Lmao did they serious say that? Wild.

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 342d (3 replies)

Yup. Right in the article.

Absolutely insane.

LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 38 pts · 342d (2 replies)

So they lie about everything then? Like I knew if was ‘entertainment’ and not news because they were lying but this is like… come on.

Edit: ‘he was a beautiful boy’? Why are they so weird? Who talks like this?

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 342d

As someone raised by Republican parents that I'm now estranged from.....this is just how they talk. It's fucking weird.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d

Lying about everything implies a commitment to oppose truth. They more engage in a reckless disregard for the stuff. They say what they feel is fitting their agenda and give 0 shits any which way if it's true.

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Not polarizing, like Socrates...

Do they even know what they're saying? Socrates was so polarizing he was put to death because his opinions were too controversial at the time. (This isn't to imply the same for Kirk. He's just an asshole, and he won't be remembered by history.)

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d

He will likely be remembered in history. In the rising violence section of the mid 2020s

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 341d

Whether they know or not is irrelevant. They know their brain dead audience doesn't know anything about Socrates other than "that old Greek guy" and so they can say whatever they want.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 342d (3 replies)

LOL, Socrates?

GladiusB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d (2 replies)

He invented geometry?

Horsey@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d

Charlie didn’t even graduate from college lol. He dropped out according to his Wikipedia.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 96 pts · 342d (8 replies)

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 342d (5 replies)

Charlie Kirk: loses gun debate the hard way

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 342d (4 replies)

I have zero empathy for him

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Joke's on you, he doesn't believe in empathy.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Joke's on him. He can't believe in anything anymore.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 342d

Heh-heh. The Schadenfreude is flowing strong today.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d

Neither do I, but I do have empathy for the people who'll suffer due to Kirk's martyrdom. Meanwhile, Kirk's audience is still there, and they'll be eagerly snatched up by the next demagogue to spout the same message.

The world became worse yesterday. Don't forget that.

JuBe@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 342d (1 reply)
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d
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Sunflier@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 342d (2 replies)

"The enemy within", "Rats", "Demon-crats"

The Nazis dehumanized the Jews like this

CitizenKong@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 342d

Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, disabled people and the opposition. Hitler actually went for the left and unions first.

eddanja@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d

Dare I say, Demo-cats?

AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 342d
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 342d (5 replies)

Political violence is of course bad... but as soon as you call for it, especially indirectly, you deserve whatever comes to you. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism, and there's not a lot more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorists.

inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 342d (3 replies)

Except these assholes have been calling for it explicitly for years.

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 342d (1 reply)

They haven't faced any consequences for their calls of violence, so why would they stop?

Assassassin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 342d

They just keep escalating their violent rhetoric and and actions without regard to the law. If you make violence inevitable, the threat of violence as a punishment becomes meaningless.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d

Live by the sword...

Zero empathy from me

Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 342d

I would say the only things more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorist is our negotiations with terrorists or our acts of (state sanctioned, so they don't use the term) terrorism.

jordanlund@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 342d (4 replies)

"my daughter loved him. I mean, she’s 13 years old. This is a man who touched an entire generation of Americans"

PHRASING!

mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 342d (1 reply)

ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 342d

Sploosh!

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 342d

No, it was meant literally. Pedophilia is a basic tenet of the MAGA Party, along with treason, racism, corruption, rape, misogyny, ignorance, and incompetence.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d

...Because that's how you get ants!

unmagical@lemmy.ml · 58 pts · 342d

My brother in christ, your side had already deployed the military on American soil and kidnapped our neighbors, this ain't a start of a war, it's engaging with an active invasion.

DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 342d

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 342d (1 reply)

He’s like Socrates. He asks questions, and he does it with a smile. And there’s nothing controversial about saying, ‘socialism is worse than capitalism. Men and women are different. Let’s put America first,’ because that’s all he was about, putting America first.

Guy isn't even cold and they're moving on to more culture war bullshit.

untorquer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d

They're not wrong, Socrates is dead.

ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 342d
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Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 49 pts · 342d (1 reply)

The party that was cheering on civil war for the last year is now trying to play the victims

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 25 pts · 342d

Right out of the fascist playbook.

stickly@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Patiently waiting for the shooter to be a hard right conspiracy nut so I can play this clip back

slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 20 pts · 342d

As funny as it is, nothing matters to these people. They find out that he rented twilight 12 years ago and determine that he must be one of those homosexuals, who are now at war with them.

WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 342d

The party of “fuck your feelings” has feelings now? I’m clutching my pearls right now!

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 342d

Yes. A war YOU started.

Redditsux@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 342d (10 replies)

Here it comes.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 342d (9 replies)

What?

Has it even been a week since Trump himself declared war on Chicago?

Don't act like any escalation is because one piece of shit got got. Whatever comes next was co.ing anyways.

If what happened today has any effect on Trump's timeline, it likely slows it down.

Every piece of shit just got reminded that this is still America. 40% of people have easy access to a gun, and most Americans can buy one in under an hour.

They're going to calm down, at least in person. Violence is about the only thing that keeps fascist out of daylight, especially when they already control the government

Xulai@mander.xyz · 28 pts · 342d (6 replies)

This was done by someone with skills and discipline.

It was probably deliberate, and ordered by the administration, and will be used for Trump to try to take guns away from citizens so he can start sending goons to our homes

They started this earlier in the week with the trans gun ban speculation. And immediately Trump knew and posted when he was shot. And Fox News already has a script ready.

criss_cross@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 342d (2 replies)

A hell of an Epstein distraction.

No_Eponym@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 342d (1 reply)

This this this. And Kirk so loved his Fearless Leader that the Leader figured Kirk would be ok knowing he would be more useful to Leader as a dead distraction than a played out influencer of youth when those youth are abandoning the R anyway.

Stabbitha@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 342d

You people are every bit as unhinged as the Qanon idiots

gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 342d (1 reply)

I won't say that Trump wouldn't order the cold blooded murder of one of his allies for a small temporary gain, but

skills and discipline.

doesn't sound like anything I've seen out of this administration

SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 342d

Maybe a staffer called the wrong takeout and delivery number.

Substance_P@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d

100%, this stinks like the start of fascism.

Maeve@kbin.earth · 8 pts · 342d

I'm sorry but that just sounds a bit wishful thinking.

whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 342d

And it’s not like Charlie didn’t have it coming.

maplebar@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 342d

You thought a "culture war" would never turn into a "war war"?

Aren't you the fucking clowns that just declared war on Chicago and Portland like a week ago?

AlexLost@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 342d (1 reply)

I love that these two bit conmen are all like "they're at war with us?!" When they've been trying to incite war with "us" for the past decade or so. It's hilarious how it's now all our fault. Also, Jesse Watters is a cunt and a deplorable human being. Let me know when someone of worth has something to say.

Soup@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d

They’re the same people who think it’s the Palestinians who are the attackers. They’re classic, boring, textbook bullies who don’t like it when the kid they’re torturing gives a free one to the nose and so they run to the teacher crying.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 342d

Good grief, these people are such gaslighting assholes.

fox2263@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Ah yes, They

Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 7 pts · 342d

THE OTHER

BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 34 pts · 342d (1 reply)

I'm TERRIFIED! As a Republican i NEVER thought I would be treated like a FIrst Grade child or Democrat politician!

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 342d

I sure hope they are even 1/100th as frightened as they are pretending to be, but these guys just seem to be cosplaying at being victims (again)...

Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 342d

Someone declared war, but it wasn't the left.

YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 342d

I wonder what he had to say after two Democratic state senators in Minnesota were murdered. And after Paul Pelosi was nearly murdered, for that matter.

inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Just saying, with this type of unhinged rhetoric, liberals and minorities should exercise their 2A rights.

It's got the potential to get bad because guys don't need facts before they shoot especially with a influential guy here, and he is, actively encouraging his followers to avenge Kirk and blaming the left with no proof.

krashmo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 342d

The 2A was quite literally written to be a failsafe against a federal government like we have now. Of course it comes with additional societal drawbacks that we've essentially focused exclusively on for decades, for mostly good reasons. However, you can be assured that they'll think twice about oppressing minority groups if those people are armed and demonstrate a willingness to defend themselves. It's not a magic bullet (lol) but at the end of the day I'd rather go out fighting the fascists than hoping to hide from them while they escalate their violence against my fellow citizens.

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 342d
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Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 342d (4 replies)

The civil war is coming.

sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 50 pts · 342d (3 replies)

Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation fascist, main architect of Project 2025, said,"the country is in the midst of a 'second American Revolution' that will be bloodless 'if the left allows it to be.'"

I wish people would realize that the new civil war started some time ago.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 15 pts · 342d

It never ended. It just went cold.

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 342d (1 reply)

I'm not sure it's the left doing the shooting.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 340d

It is not. How many liberals you know want to kill people?

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 342d

Watters's mom must be so disappointed at what a piece of shit her son became

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jesse-watters-mom-fox-news-tucker-carlson-b2377101.html

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whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 15 pts · 342d (1 reply)

And by do this, you mean do it TO the right wing, and not the other way, right?

mcbenavides85@piefed.social · 14 pts · 342d
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MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 342d

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don@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 342d

You couldn’t stop yourselves from being brainwashed into the fascists you’ve become, and from completely destroying the country. You can’t be reasoned with, so war it must be.

MehBlah@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 341d (2 replies)

Anyone can see this is a MAGA operation. They are gonna pin it on some Trans person to give them an excuse to take away their right to have a gun. All these MAGAT's are afraid of less than one percent of the population.

Sassinake@mastodon.social · 1 pts · 341d

@MehBlah @Redditsux

the wrong 1% at that. That one, they worship.

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 341d

The guilt is on the MAGA asshats anyways. They literally shot themselves and are fighting in their own ranks.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 342d (3 replies)

I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Still a different guy. This is Steven Crowder and whoever created this picture is an idiot.

slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 6 pts · 342d

Not sure if you know this, but this template is used for a variety of things, it hardly involves anything around this nazi.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

Yes, the guy in the meme template is Crowder. Kirk was literally standing under a change my mind banner when he uttered his last words.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 342d

The 2nd Amendment exists for when all the other Amendments fail.

6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 342d

HuskerNation@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 342d

No we are not, but perhaps it's time to be

HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 341d

Oh come on now, right wingers have been com|iting acts of violence against political opponents for years already.

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d (2 replies)

Please let the Union stick together just long enough for me to move to a northern state. Please please please please please please

PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 342d (1 reply)

What a terribly naive thing to say.

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d

I ain't sticking around in an area trying to form a whites only community, where an "honorary" klansmen runs for governor, or Nazis wave Swastikas on an overpass. Conservatives can fester in the shithole they're making. I'd like to move on to greener pasture.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 342d

The same dickheads who blamed the left for Donald's "assassination" attempt(s).

SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 341d

Their projection will become a well deserved prophecy. These Confederates will regret provoking otherwise peaceful people into war.

Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d

They attack and they attack. When a perceived attack happens they act like now is the time to attack. Just like yesterday and the day before.

Steve@startrek.website · 5 pts · 342d (1 reply)

Is this a civil war?

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 342d

It already has been. Other states invaded the Capitol and are planning to invade Chicago.

Substance_P@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d

A kill shot, a single shot from 200 yards? Hmm.. A dispensable generic older white man gets taken into custody in the crowd, then released, something seems off here.

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 342d

Better watch out. An elderly chinese woman is coming for you, Jesse.

I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d

They wish, huh.

Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

DARVO once again.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d

Who's "they" Watters, you fucking loser

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d

They started it