That's what always got me. He was so young when he gained traction. 31 is still pretty young, that fucker was 10 years younger than me. And these cockroaches were like: listen to this 20 something guy, he has it figured out.
I'm not saying that age equals intellect or anything, but i imagine the dumb shit i thought about when i was in my 20es and i'm just glad no one gave me a microphone and a platform.
Oh yeah, cartoonishly dead. Hardest I've ever laughed at a snuff video before (also the only time I've laughed at a snuff vid). I'm not proud or anything, just, it was really comedic setup and timing, with him talking about violence then just this gigantic upwelling of blood. Don't really recommend watching it but boy, what a cathartic death to have in the news.
I think part of it was just the surprise, that happened so perfectly on beat in ways that real things like murder usually don't so the juxtaposition felt really amusing
Ahh, nothing as healing as a fascist getting what he fucking deserved. The best of course would've been for him to see the error of his ways, and renounce his hatred. But hey, oh well.
There's far-left, left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, right, and far-right.
Far- is that which employs violence and suppresses all other opinions given the chance.
Centre is that which is always open for compromise.
The others are not always open for compromise, but discuss with each other in polite atmosphere.
By definition, the far-right necessitates excluding anything less insane than itself.
That said though, in my view the real spectrum is whether someone supports the workers. Be they American, Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Senegalese, Swiss, or whatever else.
Far- is that which employs violence and suppresses all other opinions given the chance.
the "supresses all other opinions given the chance" carries a lot of the weight here, considering that like every statist and really almost everyone agrees with or accepts the employment of violence. really only the minority which is pacifists opposes it, and even pacifists often only oppose violence against humans.
the suppression of all other opinions is then mostly just the destinction between soft and hard power, because ultimately, all who are in power either fight to remain there, or at the very least prevent those who dont share their interests from getting there. the question merely is whether they do this through violence or manipulation, and whether they do it to defend their own freedom or to maintain their domination over others.
i'm sorry if my comment appears antagonistic. my antagonism is (most likely) not directed at you.
i see the distinction between far-x and center as one which is mostly employed to moralize the degree to which people support the status quo, making it in many cases another weapon against dissent, in the arsenal of manipulation tactics. stuff makes me go on frantic rants :3
Maybe cite Encyclopedia Britannica… the wikipedia Nazis already began slapping "citation needed" among other crap on there and try to tamp down on credibility of the article.
The only good fascist is a fascist that has seen the errors of their ways and has changed and grown as a person and made amends...
But a dead fascist is an acceptable alternative.
Standing before the college students while trying to convince them that gun violence is not such a bad thing, a thought crossed Charlie Kirk's mind...
No, wait, a bullet, a bullet crossed his mind.
We'll never know if he considered himself an acceptable loss for the freedom to own guns. It is definitely nice to see karma bite someone like him in the ass.
Anyone talking about sacrifice never means it for themselves. It's always someone else getting sacrificed. Of course, sometimes they get to participate anyway.
I wish it hadn't come to this point. Like, I daydream about all these shitty nazis going down swiftly in one way or another. So I might get to live my life in peace in the near future, instead of having to wait til I'm old for fascism to recede again (if I even survive, being a trans woman). But something actually happening has tons of complications attached. I don't want fucko's death to lead to some crackdown, or more right-wingers committing shootings (when they already have the near monopoly on shootings, and for all we know Kirk's killer might've been one too) or galvanizing of MAGA shit. And by galvanizing, I mean people who were like "This isn't what I voted for!" and suffering, suddenly popping back into full cult mode.
But of course, at the same time, I know it doesn't matter. Regardless of what happened, they'd find an excuse to do a crackdown, or have trump mumble some shit to rile up the cult. Or they'd just do some more fashy shit with no prior justification anyway if they never got an inciting incident to fill the excuse role.
I guess I just want all this to resolve with minimal deaths, for the regime to topple and the members and the media/influencers who helped get us here to be tried and convicted, and other ones like the supreme court getting impeached so there's tons of precedent being set to avoid this happening again in 80-100 more years. But it definitely won't stay minimal or involve court rulings if we start getting more and more shootings of specific targets and if we start seeing retaliation following said assassinations.
Though when right-wingers assassinated those Minnesota democrats some months back, or when Pelosi's husband got beaten nearly to death in his own home, Kirk and Trump, and other figureheads, as well as a flood of nobody right-wingers on social media who are all now up in arms and angry about Kirk's death, just got smug and cheered and jeered about it. So, thoughts and prayers for dickhead and the family he leaves behind, and I guess we just wait and see what comes next in this little circus of bullshit.
Huh. I thought he won the gun debate. Too bad it took one more gun death to prove how serious he was about it. Maybe we could get send a gun with one bullet to everyone in that crowd and ask them to prove that they are as serious as Charlie Kirk.
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riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 84 pts · 337d
did charlie kirk get shot?
edit: wikipedia confirms
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 337d
Bro wtf that dude was younger than me? All that hatred sure AF ages a person.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 68 pts · 337d
That's what always got me. He was so young when he gained traction. 31 is still pretty young, that fucker was 10 years younger than me. And these cockroaches were like: listen to this 20 something guy, he has it figured out. I'm not saying that age equals intellect or anything, but i imagine the dumb shit i thought about when i was in my 20es and i'm just glad no one gave me a microphone and a platform.
But at least i was never a fascist piece of shit.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 337d
Ben Shapiro simultaneously looking 14 and 45
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 337d
hate shrinks your face too small for your head.
SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 337d
He got shot and killed, I believe
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 337d
Oh yeah, cartoonishly dead. Hardest I've ever laughed at a snuff video before (also the only time I've laughed at a snuff vid). I'm not proud or anything, just, it was really comedic setup and timing, with him talking about violence then just this gigantic upwelling of blood. Don't really recommend watching it but boy, what a cathartic death to have in the news.
hector@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 337d
It really was almost comedic timing. That probably sounds insensitive, but on the other hand fuck their feelings.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 337d
jokes aren't okay to only be directed at one side or another. everything is fair game
and objectively, his murder was ironic and with comedic timing, and that's funny. regardless of it being a horrible event
hector@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 337d
Some of these jokes go right for the jugular too, neck and neck with other such jokes.
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 336d
Comedic timing for sure. Little help from white hat and black shirt on the cue.
Stamets@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 337d
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
I think part of it was just the surprise, that happened so perfectly on beat in ways that real things like murder usually don't so the juxtaposition felt really amusing
Stamets@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 337d
python@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 337d
Technically it's only snuff if the person filming is paid to produce it.
Anyways, sauce?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 337d
That's a common definition for snuff but not the one I ascribe to.
Pleb.Anyways here is the INCREDIBLY NSFL VIDEO
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 37 pts · 337d
Woah jeez
Yeah there was no way he was surviving that with how quickly he lost that blood.
I'm glad an audience of his supporters get to experience what so many other Americans have gotten to experience.
hector@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 337d
Must have ripped carteroid artery or whatever.
Stamets@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 337d
I'm sure those were paid actors in this false flag operation.
python@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 337d
Thank you!! That timing really is cartoonish!
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 337d
Charlie to universe:You just need to accept gun violence as a fact of life.
Universe to Charlie: Okay bruh if you insist.
UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 337d
Charlie to universe:You just need to accept gun violence as a fact of life.
Universe to Charlie: You first.
rtxn@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
Thoughts and prayers ought to fix it right up.
Taalnazi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
Ahh, nothing as healing as a fascist getting what he fucking deserved. The best of course would've been for him to see the error of his ways, and renounce his hatred. But hey, oh well.
astropenguin5@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 337d
It's findable fairly easily on twitter and such
Honestly not sure the rules on linking that kinda stuff here so just not gonna
python@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
The twitter clips are all behind a login wall, and I'm not looking to make a Twitter account :/
Stamets@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 337d
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 337d
usa@lemmy.ml has a small 4 second clip.
prex@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 337d
I kind of don't want to see it.
What were his last words?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 337d
Kirk: Counting gang violence? in the most smug tone he can manage
Audience: Great! BANG
Kirk: 😵 💦
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
What an extremely healthy choice to make!
::: spoiler According to Snopes, this is the transcript of his last words:
synae@lemmy.sdf.org · 13 pts · 337d
Resol@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 337d
His last word was "violence" said in a rising tone.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
this is partially correct. you don't want to see it.
elevenbones@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 337d
I think he died.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 337d
Maybe his neck just did that.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 6 pts · 337d
I think he always loooked like that
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 337d
"Right wing" isn't true, he's far-right. And not a political activist, but a terrorist.
Resol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 337d
Isn't "far-right" part of the right wing?
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 337d
There's far-left, left, centre-left, centre, centre-right, right, and far-right.
Far- is that which employs violence and suppresses all other opinions given the chance.
Centre is that which is always open for compromise.
The others are not always open for compromise, but discuss with each other in polite atmosphere.
By definition, the far-right necessitates excluding anything less insane than itself.
That said though, in my view the real spectrum is whether someone supports the workers. Be they American, Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Senegalese, Swiss, or whatever else.
Resol@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 337d
Understood.
riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 336d
the "supresses all other opinions given the chance" carries a lot of the weight here, considering that like every statist and really almost everyone agrees with or accepts the employment of violence. really only the minority which is pacifists opposes it, and even pacifists often only oppose violence against humans.
the suppression of all other opinions is then mostly just the destinction between soft and hard power, because ultimately, all who are in power either fight to remain there, or at the very least prevent those who dont share their interests from getting there. the question merely is whether they do this through violence or manipulation, and whether they do it to defend their own freedom or to maintain their domination over others.
i'm sorry if my comment appears antagonistic. my antagonism is (most likely) not directed at you.
i see the distinction between far-x and center as one which is mostly employed to moralize the degree to which people support the status quo, making it in many cases another weapon against dissent, in the arsenal of manipulation tactics. stuff makes me go on frantic rants :3
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 336d
I think calling trumpists just right wing is an insult to sane right leaning people around the world.
Resol@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
I guess that makes sense.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 337d
Eh, terrorist is a bit of a stretch, that word has a certain definition, definitely a fucking fascist though.
the_elder@midwest.social · 11 pts · 337d
Stochastic terrorist, then
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
stochastic terrorism is still terrorism
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 337d
He was a terrorist by definition.
SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 336d
Maybe cite Encyclopedia Britannica… the wikipedia Nazis already began slapping "citation needed" among other crap on there and try to tamp down on credibility of the article.
Wutchilli@feddit.org · 11 pts · 337d
Yes
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 337d
But wait, there's more!
jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 337d
The dam may have broken here.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 337d
The only good fascist is a fascist that has seen the errors of their ways and has changed and grown as a person and made amends... But a dead fascist is an acceptable alternative.
JayK117@aussie.zone · 65 pts · 337d
Standing before the college students while trying to convince them that gun violence is not such a bad thing, a thought crossed Charlie Kirk's mind... No, wait, a bullet, a bullet crossed his mind.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com · 3 pts · 337d
It was his neck actually
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 54 pts · 337d
We'll never know if he considered himself an acceptable loss for the freedom to own guns. It is definitely nice to see karma bite someone like him in the ass.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 337d
They never do. The USA’s current Bonespurs-in-Chief is a good example.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
Anyone talking about sacrifice never means it for themselves. It's always someone else getting sacrificed. Of course, sometimes they get to participate anyway.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 337d
Karma isn't a thing.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 337d
Ever heard of a figure of speech
Catpurple@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 337d
I wish it hadn't come to this point. Like, I daydream about all these shitty nazis going down swiftly in one way or another. So I might get to live my life in peace in the near future, instead of having to wait til I'm old for fascism to recede again (if I even survive, being a trans woman). But something actually happening has tons of complications attached. I don't want fucko's death to lead to some crackdown, or more right-wingers committing shootings (when they already have the near monopoly on shootings, and for all we know Kirk's killer might've been one too) or galvanizing of MAGA shit. And by galvanizing, I mean people who were like "This isn't what I voted for!" and suffering, suddenly popping back into full cult mode.
But of course, at the same time, I know it doesn't matter. Regardless of what happened, they'd find an excuse to do a crackdown, or have trump mumble some shit to rile up the cult. Or they'd just do some more fashy shit with no prior justification anyway if they never got an inciting incident to fill the excuse role.
I guess I just want all this to resolve with minimal deaths, for the regime to topple and the members and the media/influencers who helped get us here to be tried and convicted, and other ones like the supreme court getting impeached so there's tons of precedent being set to avoid this happening again in 80-100 more years. But it definitely won't stay minimal or involve court rulings if we start getting more and more shootings of specific targets and if we start seeing retaliation following said assassinations.
Though when right-wingers assassinated those Minnesota democrats some months back, or when Pelosi's husband got beaten nearly to death in his own home, Kirk and Trump, and other figureheads, as well as a flood of nobody right-wingers on social media who are all now up in arms and angry about Kirk's death, just got smug and cheered and jeered about it. So, thoughts and prayers for dickhead and the family he leaves behind, and I guess we just wait and see what comes next in this little circus of bullshit.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 336d
Supposedly ... they happened to find bullets engraved with pro trans slogans or something. How convenient.
WereHacker@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 337d
Huh. I thought he won the gun debate. Too bad it took one more gun death to prove how serious he was about it. Maybe we could get send a gun with one bullet to everyone in that crowd and ask them to prove that they are as serious as Charlie Kirk.
plyth@feddit.org · 16 pts · 337d
It can't be all of the left making those jokes.
anonymous_in_atl@ani.social · 12 pts · 337d
RIPBOZO
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 337d
I hope that p stands for piss
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
"Looks like he took a left-leaning stance in the end after all"
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 337d
I'd like to see the reaction, though.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 337d
The Tree of Liberty got watered at least a tiny bit. Not by a patriot, but a sycophant of the other thing.