Donald Trump's approval rating crashes with Latino voters

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-latinos-2130414

New polling conducted by Somos Votantes and the Global Strategy Group between August 26 and September 4 shows that Trump's net approval rating among Latino voters has dropped from -11 points in February to -23 points in September.

His favorability rating has seen a similar drop, from -12 points in February to -20 points in September.

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ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 156 pts · 339d (37 replies)

Why gee, 8 months later, the latinos who inexplicably voted for the guy who spat right in their face finally realize he's not their friend?

MAGA voters of all stripes ain't too bright I guess...

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 54 pts · 339d (33 replies)

I think a lot of it comes down to news and education. Every bit of media they consume assured them that Trump was a no-nonsense tough guy who would tackle head on some of the issues that were of genuine concern to them. There are billions of dollars that go into manipulating the landscape in all kinds of ways to make sure that is all they were presented with. And so, that's the basis they decided on. What else could they do?

Sure, you and me exist in a media landscape where that's a laughable joke, but I don't think you can necessarily blame them for not having lucked their way into the same places that we exist on. The white people, who were waving around signs saying "Mass Deportations Now" and then got all upset when it turned around on them, I think you can blame, but I think a lot of people of a lot of different ethnicities and backgrounds just got fooled by all the propaganda that is so polished and professional at this point.

krashmo@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 339d (5 replies)

Oh fuck that, quit letting idiots off the hook for being idiots. There was, and still is, an absurd amount of information readily available about how shitty Trump is. If the people you're talking about cared at all they could have found it easily, but they didn't. That's not anyone else's fault but theirs.

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · -13 pts · 339d (4 replies)

"Why don't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get educated about it"

jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 18 pts · 339d (2 replies)

Wikipedia is right there in a number of languages. Not asking people to do academic research, read above a 6th grade level, or leave their house.

krashmo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 339d (1 reply)

Yeah if reading something is too high of a bar for the average person to clear then I will happily admit that my expectations of humanity are too high.

Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 338d

Brother listening to the man speak was too high of a bar.

4am@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 339d

Don’t be a fucking contrarian for idiots. They spend a DECADE shouting about how the liberals are trying to slander poor Donald, oh the awful things they say about him! How could they?

They chose not to accept the truth. That’s on them at this point.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 339d (6 replies)

But this was the first Trump presidency. They had gone through it before. They knew what was going to happen.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 339d (5 replies)

Attention spans are short.

You see how fast everyone totally forgot about COVID-19?

AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 339d

Attention spans are short is a valid explanation, but not a valid excuse to escape blame.

ripcord@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 339d

Oh, well, that's OK then?

GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 339d

Forgot about what, now?

Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 339d

The right has not forgotten about Covid, they remember it as a hoax and make fun of people who got vaccinated. Comes up often when the measle outbreak hits the news.

pilferjinx@piefed.social · 2 pts · 339d

Attention and political memory are very short, especially if you don't closely follow and understand the things being done in the legislature.

figjam@midwest.social · 14 pts · 339d (1 reply)

What else could they do?

Have memories that go back to 2016-2020

MNByChoice@midwest.social · 8 pts · 339d

That is the thing that bothers me. EVERYONE that could have voted in 2024 was old enough to remember the first Trump term.

tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 339d (15 replies)
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PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 2 pts · 338d (13 replies)

My guy this is racist as fuck

tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d
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Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d (11 replies)

I can't tell if you're being serious or not...

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 1 pts · 338d (10 replies)

"The lack of compassion and hypocrisy among the blacks came back to bite their own community in the ass"

"The lack of compassion and hypocrisy in the LGBTQ+ community came back to bite their own community in the ass"

See the problem now?

It's not automatically racist just to discuss significant problems in a particular racial community in a direct fashion of course... but just dismissing Latino support for Trump as a problem of "it's because they are bigoted hypocrites QED" is a bunch of racist crap.

tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d (5 replies)
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PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 1 pts · 338d

If LGBT+ people voted as a large block for Trump because

... and then you filled in your theory for what the "because" was that caused the Latino community to vote for him.

If your "because" were completely accurate, I'd agree with you. But it's not. And since it's not, and because you're implying that every single religious Latino as a bloc has that hateful attitude and using that as your jumping off point, it's racist.

Anything else I can help you with?

Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 338d (3 replies)

So saying a group who voted for a bigot are bigoted is bigoted?

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 1 pts · 338d

It wouldn't be racist if you had said they were bigoted (Although I do think it would be wrong, I think the issue is more awareness and education than it is just innate bigotry. They obviously didn't fully know what Trump was about, by definition, or they wouldn't have voted for him.)

Since you said the whole grouping is hypocritical and lacks compassion, that's the racist part. IDK how you can't see that, but it seems like you're just determined not to see it for whatever reason.

Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d

Don't forget the rampant racism/colorism in the latino community!

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 337d (1 reply)

There are billions of dollars that go into manipulating the landscape in all kinds of ways to make sure that is all they were presented with. And so, that's the basis they decided on. What else could they do?

That's an argument against democracy never working..

Millions of people didn't vote for Trump,.so how come they didn't ?

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 1 pts · 337d

It's a really good question. So democracy isn't a magic bullet. Putin gets elected every term, Hitler got elected (more or less). One element of democracy actually working the way it's supposed to is the freedom to vote, but also one element of it is subjecting the machinery that selects candidates to people's meaningful input, one element of it is a free enough media and educational system so that people will be able to put their votes in with some understanding and knowledge behind them.

Right now, we sort of have the first, kind of, but the second and third elements the US just doesn't have. It's barely functioning. I think it's not really surprising that the results we're getting are so objectively horrifying. I just want to describe the problem in terms of how it actually developed. This whole diagnosis where "Of course the Latinos had perfect knowledge of what Trump was going to do, but they voted for him anyway, so now it's their fault that it's coming true after they voted for him" is just very obviously not true to me. Obviously they were fooled in some sense about it, because he planning to directly endanger them and their families' safety, so we need to get to the bottom of how that happened and what can be done about it in the future. I do think there is some role played by, roughly speaking, "Latino culture is macho in some ways and Trump did macho messaging that appealed to them." But saying that's the whole way it happened (as some people are apparently) is 1,000% missing the point to me.

jason_is_back@tucson.social · 9 pts · 339d (2 replies)

I realized how stupid people were when I was younger (late teens). I always figured that I had to out think a handful of people to accomplish whatever it was I wanted to do.

Mind you that there are a lot of people smarter than me (IQ) or that have more "common sense" but the combination of the two is rare.

Anyone with eyes should be able yo see how shit Trump is but they don't and it hurts my brain.

If you have any sense at all please run for local office and please push democratic socialist views.

Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 339d (1 reply)

There really isn't a better self confidence boost that interacting with trump supporters. It's almost zero effort and instantly clear the difference is measurable in magnitudes.

jason_is_back@tucson.social · 1 pts · 337d

It's like if you fought a potato

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 55 pts · 339d (5 replies)

They won't be able to vote, so it doesn't matter.

AreaKode@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 339d (4 replies)

2028 will only be white, cis, land-owning men voting.

ripcord@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 339d (2 replies)

And even their votes won't count. The numbers will be mostly made up.

Azal@pawb.social · 5 pts · 339d (1 reply)

I was gonna say, I'm of the demographic and they'd still find a way to take my vote because of living in a blue city.

ripcord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 339d

Take your vote because of (not voting the right way)

merdaverse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d

Just as the founding fathers intended

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 338d (9 replies)

For the life of me, I have no idea how he ever managed to convince Latino voters to support him in the 1st place.

Rakonat@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 338d (3 replies)

Latino culture is just very conservative by nature. There's a lot of factors, religion, (family) education, traditions and just how their communities operate. It's more telling that Trump literally has to threaten deportation or extermination to get them to break ranks than his rhetoric for the past decade, let alone prior to that. If Latinos didn't have brown skin they'd be the model republican. And somehow that drives the power center of the party up a fucking wall thanks to their racist views.

ronigami@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 337d (2 replies)

None of that should matter if you have and use a brain.

Rakonat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 337d

You remember we are talking about conservatives, who are conditioned to shut off their brain, avoid any critical thinking and take what ever "good" people tell them as though it were gospel.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 337d

Conservative politics, as John Staurt Mills pointed out, attracts.stupid people. Not.all conservatives are stupid.of course, many are just grifters etc.

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative" h . John Stuart Mill

And Cipllola defines a stupid person as someone who hurts others even if they hurt themselves.

You have the perfect intersection here of conservative and stupid.

MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 338d

Latino guys in trucks working blue collar jobs feel more like white Republican guys to them than liberal democrats. Only problem is that the gop doesn't think that.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 338d

Chickens for McNuggets. The first rule of immigration is shit all over other immigrants.

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 338d (2 replies)

Trump didn't win the Latino vote, Biden lost it. The same goes for the 2024 election. It was a rejection of Democratic Party establishment, not a Trump victory.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 337d (1 reply)

Fair enoigh but image being so disillusioned by Biden or Harris you'd vote for Trump ...as a latino. You'd have to be a either a fool... or a phsycopath. I mean i can see u being so upset you vote for neither but Trump ?

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 337d

If you don't offer voters a good candidate, then you will lose the election. Saying "I'm less evil than the other guy" won't be enough.

FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 339d (1 reply)

Should've been zero to begin with

MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 338d

This is net approval, 0 is a good number to have.

markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 338d (3 replies)

Any Latino who voted for Trump fucking deserves anything they're getting now. It's not like he didn't tell them exactly how he feels about them for the past decade of American politics.

Psythik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d (2 replies)

I told my Mexican brother and wife that I'm going to laugh so hard at them when they eventually get deported, despite both being second generation Americans.

I love my brother but he married a racist piece of shit and is being influenced by her loud, obnoxious ass; I hope they both get what they voted for. Personally I'm not worried about myself because I'm light-skinned, have a white last name, and was raised white by my Polish dad, so I look and act white (brother and sister-in-law are very brown). Only other Mexicans can recognize my mixed race I've noticed.

Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 338d (1 reply)

I remember I would tell my dad over and over again "I hope you get everything your voting for, I hope you get the tarriffs, I hope you get the mass deportations, I hope Trump cuts interest rates to 0% causing inflation to skyrocket, I hope Trump cleans out the federal govt, I hope he does everything he says he's going do cause America needs to learn its fucking lesson"

I stand by everything I said.

Nalivai@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 337d

America will learn nothing and millions of underprivileged will suffer enormously.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 25 pts · 339d (1 reply)

But hey, he promised: if you vote for me you'll never have to vote again!

Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 339d

Proof that Trump can deliver on his promises!

Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 339d (2 replies)

And this is why Trump is going to create an emergency or declare war before the 2026 elections.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 338d (1 reply)

with certainty. USA will be bombing Venezuela by next summer.

ronigami@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d

have you been on tiktok (and seen the propaganda)? we’ll be in a civil war before winter.

Flamekebab@piefed.social · 18 pts · 339d (1 reply)

Does this demographic also have to be supervised at meal times lest they try to eat the cutlery?

lemmylump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d

The leopards are now on charge of meal time.

Rhaedas@fedia.io · 15 pts · 339d

It never should have been high, if they had only paid attention. Goes for anyone really, but Latino support was an oddity. This guy was going to help you? Really?

lemmylump@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 338d (5 replies)

To all you Latino voters that voted for this pile of shit, especially you Cuban Americans in Florida that should 100% know better..

Fuck you and feed the leopard.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 337d (1 reply)
lemmylump@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d

They support fascist.

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 338d (2 replies)

How about fuck you and get out.

Stabbitha@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 338d (1 reply)

Go fuck yourself

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 338d

I meant to the Trump voters, not you. I should have been more clear.

Professorozone@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 339d (1 reply)

This just tells us they are just as stupid as whites. They could have seen this coming as easily as whites.

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 339d

50% of both groups have below average intelligence.

ChetManly@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 339d

Too little too late

W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 339d

Only -11 points? Thats all?

CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one · 9 pts · 338d

...now that it doesn't matter what is approval is.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 338d

Just now? Slow on the uptake

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 338d

It was wild how high it was to begin with. I used to work with such a dude. His parents came illegally but he was a citizen and would basically say "fuck you, I got mine" about all the "wetbacks" coming in. Working with that guy felt like being in the Clayton Bigsby skit from Chapelle Show.

Kurious84@eviltoast.org · 9 pts · 339d

Ya think

jason_is_back@tucson.social · 8 pts · 339d (1 reply)

But what about his love for jesus? I thought he loves jesus?

pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 339d

Just supply side Jesus.

Akasazh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 338d

The leopards be feasting

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 338d

Little late now, assholes.

Nougat@fedia.io · 8 pts · 339d

As though "voters" matter any more.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 339d (2 replies)
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 339d (1 reply)
redlemace@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 338d

aged like milk

rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 339d

womp womp

AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 339d

Until he and his entire administration is dead and gone, this really doesn't matter.

SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one · 6 pts · 339d

Crocodile tears.

matlag@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 337d

1.This soon won't matter since the plan is to purge the country of anyone vaguely looking latino. Remember the "homebrew" comment on El Salvador's prison expansion?

2.What kinds of latinos were supporting Trump? You can speculate. At least we know what kind was not supporting him: "Smart people don't like me!".

LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 337d

Like sheep voting for a wolf. I mean he told them to their face " I hate you, you are not human, you are lower than dirt, and I will come after all of you"

I dunno, I probably wouldn't have voted for the guy.

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 338d

I wonder why.

thorhop@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 338d

The chickens came home to roost when their footgun didn't prevent the leopard from eating their faces.

Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 338d

No fucking shit.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 337d

Didn't a whole bunch of Latino voters throw their support behind him?

Somewhat of a "chickens for KFC" moment there, eh?

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 338d

Ten el dia que has votado