Archive article https://archive.is/mBxfC
Mormon Church Shooter Had a Trump Sign Outside His House
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-sign-spotted-outside-church-shooters-house/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-sign-spotted-outside-church-shooters-house/
Archive article https://archive.is/mBxfC
93 Comments
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world · 244 pts · 351d
So this is a “mental health crisis” shooting, and not a “we need to round up the leftists” shooting. Got it.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 104 pts · 350d
Nah, this news will never make it to MAGA. They're already saying that this was "another" radical leftist.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 350d
It doesn't matter what happens anymore. Americas oligarchs spent several decades consolidating media ownership and constructing an alternative "conservative cinematic universe" where reality is entirely irrelevant.
The base has been indoctrinated with the fascist mental illness by their propaganda machine, and I mean that literally. Conservatives are now a mentally ill population, and de-programming them in any meaningful way is essentially impossible.
Whatever happens from now on, it will always be <insert any nazi scapegoat's> fault in their eyes, forevermore.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 350d
Because leftists drive bigass pickups with giant American flags and a gun rack.
Well good. Let them spin this. Then they can start second guessing eachother.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 350d
Nah, they’re claiming that because it was attached to a stop sign it actually meant Stop Trump 🙄
dhork@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 350d
No, this is a "Closeted Leftist makes a false flag attack" shooting. And if that doesn't work, it's a "Look at what those violent leftists made me do!" Shooting.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 350d
This shooter just needs to find Jesus like the Kirk one.
dhork@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 350d
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 350d
A kalashnikov would be more accurate
danc4498@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 350d
He has Trump derangement syndrome. Get him a doctor.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 350d
Put him in a MedBed!
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 350d
No this is brain washed radicalization shooting. Fox news robots have been calling for violence and these guys have been so programmed by the military so they do not fear death and must follow orders.
Reyali@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 350d
I think everyone here understands that. The person you were responding to used air quotes implying that’s what the right will view it as.
KatakiY@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 350d
No it's another attack on Christianity in America. That's the line. Never mind they don't care about mormons
wampus@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 350d
But that's the same thing, being a democrat / against Trump is a mental health disorder, TDS. /s
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 147 pts · 351d
A White Veteran with a Trump sign? This sounds like a RADICAL TRANS LEFTIST!
-CNN!
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 72 pts · 351d
Right wingers:
negativenull@piefed.world · 49 pts · 350d
I'm sure they'll find bullet casings with ANTIFA messages written on them (suspiciously in Kash Patel's handwriting)
Steve@startrek.website · 21 pts · 350d
Which turn out to be the manufacturer's trademark after a serious investigation.
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io · 8 pts · 350d
Interpretations of the manufacturer’s trademark, with which they will annotate a photo of the casings and then claim that they were written on the casings all along. It’s true because it’s on the photo.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 350d
Did they ever release photos of the casings from Kirk’s shooting? Cuz I don’t believe that part for a second.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 350d
Are you kidding? They found an automatic trans-mission on his car, they didn't even need to
plantfind more evidence!lennybird@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 350d
We can do better:
"Make Liberals Cry Again" shirt from 2019.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 350d
This is the shirt, in black not camo:
https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Donald-Trump-Re-Election-2020-Make-Liberals-Cry-Again-2-by-EntengArt/84297730.1YYVU
Definitely a leftie, this guy.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 350d
mmcintyre@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 350d
Can't help but wonder if he thought he was avenging Charlie Kirk by killing a bunch of Mormons.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 17 pts · 350d
Maybe they didn't mourn hard enough for him
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 350d
It’s not mournmons.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 350d
Maybe he his a lost Israelite who stumbled into a time machine and was mad that they improperly named "Mournmons" "Mormons" because they were supposed to mourn Christ. Now he has a vendetta.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 350d
I have read his ex was LDS and he held hate for them.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 9 pts · 350d
Ahh I felt the domestic violence vibes from the description of the scenario. Scorched earth against the ex makes sense.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 350d
The article I read still made it clear that it was a “Mormons are evil” kind of crazy rather than a “fuck that bitch” kind of crazy
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 350d
Whoa, no way?!? Color me surprised when 85% of mass shootings are right wing Trump extremists.
reddifuge@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 350d
It's higher than 85%. The data shows it's 95-100% depending on the year. 2022 saw 100% of mass shootings were done by Republicans.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 350d
I get the reasoning for it, but this mad dash to "prove" a shooting is the other side's fault turns my stomach.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 28 pts · 350d
All shootings are the fault of the side that allows crazy people access to guns.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 350d
All shootings are the fault of the country that interprets their constitution to say that everyone, by default, has access to guns.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 350d
Agreed, that's why all those radical leftists that believe in human rights, an obvious mental delusion, need their guns seized.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 13 pts · 350d
It used to always be the fault of violent video games and metal or rap music, wanna go back to those days?
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 350d
I have read his ex was LDS and he hated Mormons. I suspect this had nothing to do with politics.
Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 350d
Welcome to the world that embraces division. Difficult situations that would otherwise serve as a punch to the face to snap us out of our (woefully, embarrassingly dumb) stupor and realize we need to come together instead become a fervent race to figure out how we can use it to drive the wedge between us deeper.
Truly wonderful times ahead!
Soggy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 350d
No wedge is needed to drive me away from bigots, they do that on their own.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 350d
I am just sad that there is a propoganda network hammering out these bigots on the daily. How can you be a stable person in the world when since you have been able to understand the adults, all the news that has been on has been claiming there is the scary nebulous "other" out to get them.
The propaganda is real and we need to understand that many people are just brainwashed.
You go somewhere with a poorly run middle school and all you hear on the way to school in your dad's truck is Rush in the morning. You get to school and all you hear are bad stories from your friends, parents are fighting, Tom Jr's dad lost his job because the factory said immigrants took them, that liberal bean counter they employ must have made the decision your classmates echo.
You struggle through classes because not only do your parents not support your education, they are ignorant of any parental teaching responsibilities they have themselves, but even more, they are skeptical of the "liberal education system" itself and give no praise for excellence, in fact they deride people who succed academically. You wonder why you're in school at all
Your best relief is gym class, but you get made fun of in the locker room because your clothes are a little tatty. Then the gym teacher who is a big right winger starts up the baseball game and makes fun of the liberal pansises he put in the outfield, not doing much but picking flowers... as is the nature of the game and position at that level. You laugh, a hearty laugh really. It's been a while since you could laugh at anything, even if it's someone. Besides, a few of those kids made comments about your clothes earlier.
Then when you're home, from the moment you step into your house it's the same 8 familiar faces on TV telling you who wronged you and why. Sure the enemies aren't close... or are they? But you get a little relief with each passing word that it's not really your fault, it's their fault. An explosive new segment comes down the ticker reel on the TV and your dad shouts "See. They said they are downsizing! I fucking new Tom got screwed by those liberals.
You go to bed praying to the god your parents taught you of. The god who will listen to you and not them and you hope that tomorrow things will be better and they will no longer stand in the way.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
We're two full generations of constant-effort work away from fixing this shithole country, and that's if we start funding and respecting education nationwide right now. It's not "brainwashing" it's a culture of hate and that isn't going to change without converting their kids out from under them.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 35 pts · 350d
Fucking lefties!
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 350d
It's cause he was just being sarcastic... everyone knows lefties voted for the turnip as a joke.
bananabread@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 350d
The sign is probably on the left of his house
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 350d
Stage left
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 350d
Remember back when we could all agree that people who murder other people were likely mentally unwell and didn't immediately look to see who they voted for. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 350d
It's because the right is desperate to throw off the well earned shade that they cause the vast majority of gun-related violence. It's almost as if conservatives, who are obsessed on only have their world view validated through the the news, get violent when the world doesn't agree with them.
Hathaway@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 350d
One of my favorite quotes I’ve seen brought up “you don’t have to be evil/crazy to kill someone. You just have to believe you’re right.” - Yoko Taro
Not that it’s an excuse for anything. This also smells of religion. And people kill in the name of religion all the time.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
You say that like you think religious belief isn't a form of mental illness.
Hathaway@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 350d
I don’t believe it is. I think that’s rather reductive considering how much it’s impacted human culture over history.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 349d
I should have clarified.
Fanatical religious belief is virtually indistinguishable from mental illness to my eyes.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 350d
I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious. He hated mormons by the sound of it. I’ve always said that if Christians got their wish and everyone on earth that wasnt Christian was gone, they would just begin to hate and kill each other over whatever difference they find next. All the evangelists kill everyone else, they’ll then go on to start killing each other over the color of their hair or whatever. Christianity was born as a persecuted religion so they’re always trying to kill someone and play the victim.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 350d
It's just Sneeches with weapons for all time. If it's not religion, it's race. If it's just white supremacists left, they'd wipe out the redheads first and then the blond-brunette wars will start.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 350d
It's almost impossible to tease these things apart, most especially within the radical right. They accuse another Abrahamic religion of not being able to separate church from state, and pretending to be scared of "Shariah Law" and then proceed to trying to enact xtian Shariah Law here.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 350d
we've already had a thousand years of Christians killing each other over whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Godhead with the Father or from the Father.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
Religion loves a martyr. If you’re not a victim, your faith isn’t being tested, how can you then justify your version of your faith?
SoloCritical@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 350d
Sounds a lot like Israel right now
tea@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 350d
It's purely defensive for people to point to the politics of the shooter, I think. I agree you have the motivations pegged here correctly with religion, but Democrats are going to be wary of any shooter being used to justify authoritarian police state shit. Republicans are desperately going to try to paint us as violent, regardless of the facts. Look at what they are trying to say about the MN school shooter and how Kirks shooter was immediately assumed to be left wing before we even knew anything at all.
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 350d
F-F-False F-Flag!
chisel@piefed.social · 22 pts · 350d
That sign is clearly a paid actor!
CluckN@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 350d
Just you wait, once the texts with his trans neighbor gets released we’ll be able to declare martial law.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 16 pts · 350d
Clearly he's saying "Trump stop", another crazy lefty /s
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 350d
The, Bart, the.
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 350d
This is genuinely the lie a bunch of them are running with on Xitter.
socsa@piefed.social · 3 pts · 350d
Daddy stop 🥵
Triumph@fedia.io · 12 pts · 350d
Just another radical left DEMONRAT
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 350d
I can’t believe this trans person has a trump sign!
/s
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 350d
Meanwhile in a totally separate reality: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1ntf95i/mormon_church_shooter_identified_as_42yearold/
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 350d
They get so close to putting the pieces together. One commenter said they were pro-union, because people can't make as much money as they used to ("a janitor in the '60s could support a family, vacations, etc" to paraphrase the commenter). Kind of missing that unions and pro-worker efforts are a big part of why society had gotten to that point of wages, job security, etc.
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 350d
I looked at a random idiot's profile in that thread saying "we should be focusing on thoughts and prayers, not placing blame on politics etc...". Obviously a few days ago he was blaming "radical leftists". Shocked Pikachu face
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 350d
Link it
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 350d
Guess he got too tired of so much winning.
thefrozenorth@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 350d
There's no mystery here. During the 2024 campaign Trump promised the militias a race war - he didn't deliver because war puts oligarch wealth at risk. Now magas' are taking things in their own hands. That's why Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk: he was trying to kick start the civil war. Trump is desperately trying to appear war like for his base, while protecting his money.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 350d
Appearing warlike, inciting violence with rhetoric, and all the while saying "I deserve multiple Nobel prizes for peace!"
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 350d
Yes, yes, yes but we need to wait for kash’s magic marker to show us the way…
the_q@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 350d
20cello@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 350d
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 350d
Does the reality even matter anymore?
Pop quiz: can you guys remember the last 20 major US shootings?
I can't. I certainly don't know their outcomes.
Folks will internalize the first wild rumor they heard (indirectly) from Twitter or CNN or whatever before attention moves to the next shooting, and that's the impression that lasts.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 350d
You should remember them because they all happened in the last month /s
NABDad@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 350d
Those damn antifa terrorists trying to pretend to be MAGA again!
/s
Shirasho@lemmings.world · 7 pts · 350d
Left trying their hardest to ban guns.
Shooting.
It's the radical lefts!
The mental gymnastics are real.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 7 pts · 350d
Left say proletariat must not be disarmed.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 1 pts · 350d
You're not allowed to try and stop yourselves from shooting everything up, what are you radical leftists thinking?
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 350d
But good guy with gun stop bad guy with gun.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 350d
Fox news at 9: IT WAS MOUNTED ON TOP OF A STOP SIGN, DOES IT MEAN 'STOP TRUMP'???
paper_moon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 350d
I know this is a joke, but it made me think of 2024 and how I was genuinely confused by my multiple neighbor's "Love Trumps Hate" signs in 2024 in a very liberal area. I legimately thought they were saying they love the level of hate Trump is spewing, because that's how crazy those people had gotten. Also, why would you use a word that is the same as the guys name, in a sign protesting said guy. A few weeks later someone clued me in, but god damn, this timeline is so fucking stupid when i legitimately thought the Trump people were "just telling it like it is".
As a disclaimer, I'm fully aware of the phrase love trumps hate, and the meaning of the word 'trump', but in this over politicized environment it just didn't dawn on me that was the intended meaning.
OwlPaste@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 350d
He clearly TRAiNed under orderS of radical trans left! a deluded soul who was simply confused. nothing to do with anything else
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 350d
Another one of Charlie's kids I see.
thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 350d
Lembot_0004@discuss.online · 3 pts · 351d
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 350d
Don't worry, Kash found an engraved bullet up his butt. It turns out he accidentally sat on it. It said:
This beautiful & stable MAGA person got corrupted by radical leftists
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 350d
Because of course he did.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 350d
Ok, and? While he is yet another right leaning guy that chose violence it doesn’t seem like this was a political killing but rather a guy who hated LDS.