So I have my whole life put pizza in the fridge when it's done, except on the odd occasion where I've gotten drunk pizza woke up to it out on the bench still.
However focaccia and other bread treats get left on the bench a day or two and no one sees an issue.
How about garlic bread? Fridge? I think so but then again I think of those bacon cheese roles that just live on the bench all the time.
I just don't know anymore
113 Comments
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub · 136 pts · 343d
Pizza goes in the fridge. It's not just bread; lots of high moisture goodies for bacteria to eat.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 343d
My other examples often contain similar ingredients though, should I be putting them in the fridge too?
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 23 pts · 343d
Oil doesn't count as moisture.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 343d
Depending on the pizza, it might be up to 90% oil.
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 343d
Could be, if it's not very saucy and depending on the toppings, but I meant the focaccia and garlic bread.
Red_October@piefed.world · 2 pts · 342d
Leave it out and it'll be 90% oil, 10% pure poison.
PeachMan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 343d
Focaccia is just bread and oil. Pizza has mozzarella cheese and tomato sauce on it, definitely refrigerate. Some aged cheeses might be fine out of the fridge, but not fresh cheeses like mozzarella. I think that after baking (if you get it hot enough and the mozzarella is very crispy), pizza MIGHT be able to survive on the counter for a day or so. But I'd say it's kinda risky, and your pizza gets stale! That's not pleasant.
What are the bacon cheese rolls that you're talking about? Sounds to me like something that should be refrigerated.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 342d
This is them,
They're bacon and cheese on a roll, buy in a 6 pack from woolies.
Slice them in half put another piece of ham and cheese inside and bang in the microwave for a minute and they're awesome
paraplu@piefed.social · 4 pts · 342d
That cheese has had most of the moisture cooked or aged out.
This is very different from a pizza where even if you did cook the cheese like that, it's often sitting on a layer of wet sauce.
PeachMan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
This might be fine. How does Woolies store them? Are they refrigerated there before you buy them? That's an easy way to decide for most foods: if the grocery store refrigerates them, or if they say "refrigerate after opening" on the package, then you should refrigerate.
And many foods, even if you don't HAVE to refrigerate them, will last longer in the fridge. I personally keep a loaf of sourdough in the fridge because it's slower to mold.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
They're just kept on the shelf, same like bread in an air conditioned shop.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 46 pts · 343d
Plain bread doesn't have sufficient water activity to support bacterial growth.
Focaccia is generally bread with oils/fats (oils aren't water so they don't contribute to water activity).
Sweetened pastries have more water in them, but have most of the water bound to sugar molecules so that there's not enough water activity to support bacterial growth.
But pizza has a water-based sauce on the crust, and often has moist toppings. That's why some pizzas become soggy over time. That's enough water activity to support microbial growth, including some microbes that cause illness. So pizza should be refrigerated.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 343d
Thank you for this, it's a great explanation
SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 343d
Well yes ofc. If the bread has anything more than flour oil water salt sugar preservatives leaveners it goes in the fridge.
Any flavouring means fridge. Although its so hot and humid here we even refrigerate our bread in the summer months
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 343d
Yeah our bread lives in the fridge because it goes moldy otherwise, especially since a loaf will last 3 weeks in my house, not really bread eaters
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 343d
Leftover anything will last longer in the fridge, but I've been known to leave pizza on the counter and pick at it for a few days.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 17 pts · 343d
And you’ve never gotten the shits from that?
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 343d
Nope.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 343d
Yeah preservation wise fridge for sure, but left out overnight or a day, provided its not 35 degrees seems fine in my mind
three@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 343d
True if it was 35 in your house it would actually be better left out, unless you have your fridge set lower than that.
killea@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 343d
Unit of measure confusion is sometimes good comedy?
three@lemmy.zip · -6 pts · 343d
No, I was mocking that person because they assumed everyone uses celsius.
lucg@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
Like 194 of 195 countries do. It's a pretty safe assumption
killea@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
Well that's unfortunate.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Celsius is the best temperature for everyday use, it marries up to to Si units which are universal
killea@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
-40 degrees has joined the chat.
three@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 342d
Yeah sure, whatever you say
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 342d
35 isn't particularly hot, it's just below body temperature meaning you can still lose heat easily enough.
There's no point arguing with Fahrenheit uses because you're almost all American and have no interest in adopting a better option when you're all to busy destroying your country
Psythik@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 343d
Yes, in a sealed plastic container so it doesn't dry out (never in the original box). Then I reheat it using the stovetop method:
When done correctly, it tastes better than the night before when it was fresh.
BTW, most breads left in the fridge will warm back up just fine in the toaster oven/air fryer, or microwave if you don't want it crispy. (Or just leave it out to get back to room temp.) Again, the secret is to store it in a well-sealed container to retain moisture.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 342d
Yeah i love that method, I've followed it a few fi es
theherk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Step 0: Butter the bottom of the slice. 🤤
Psythik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
If you do this, make sure you're monitoring the temperature of the pan carefully, cause it'll burn a lot easier (use an induction cooktop if you have one to better control temps). Through my own experiments I've found that the pizza heats more evenly if you pour melted butter on the top of the crust instead and leave the bottom unbuttered.
I find that also helps to let the pizza get up to room temperature first, either by defrosting in the microwave for a minute or letting it sit out for about ten.
theherk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
True, I use a hob for it on pretty low heat. But butter on the bottom makes an absolutely dreamy, crispy crust. I’ve ordered pizza and not eaten it, just for tomorrow pizza. You’re spreading great information here.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 343d
I'm sorry but any pizza that tastes better reheated, no matter how good the reheat technique, was not very good pizza to begin with. I think you've had some very sad pizzas in your life mate.
Edited to add, wow I did not realize this would be a hot take. Y'all seriously had some sad pizzas.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
If you're dining out getting it hot and fresh from the oven, I'd tend to agree with you
But if you're getting delivery or takeout, which at least in the US, probably accounts for most pizza consumption, odds are that when you eat your pizza it's probably been sitting in a box for at least a few minutes, maybe up to an hour or so, soaking up its own steam and juices, and maybe going cold
Which, of course, would change the texture and probably not for the better.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
No matter the quality of the pizza, it almost always tastes better the next day after the ingredients have had time to settle in and get to know each other a bit. Same goes for a lot of different foods, which is part of why I love leftovers so much. Like I said, you just have to know how to store and reheat them properly.
For example, do you know about the microwaving technique of using twice the time at half the power? Results in more even heating, practically eliminating hot spots. (If you're patient, you can get better results with a third of the power and 3x the time.) And don't even get me started on the wonders of pressure coolers and electric smokers...
meekah@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 342d
I do think its different because the toppings are still fairly wet, unlike foccacia. So yeah, I put it in the fridge.
Life hack if you don't like cold pizza: heating up in a pan gives your crust a little crispyness back. It'll never be the same as fresh pizza, but at least not as soggy as from the microwave.
froh42@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d
MICROWAVE?!?!!! Who puts Pizza in a microwave? That's probably the worst way possible to heat it up. It'd rather eat it cold.
Put it in an oven (or yes, a pan).
Siethron@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
I fucking love microwaved pizza, if I could could pizza with a crust that chewy from the start I would.
remon@ani.social · 4 pts · 342d
Oven or pan takes minutes. Microwave takes seconds.
froh42@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
Eating it cold is even faster and still better than microwaving it into a mush.
remon@ani.social · 3 pts · 342d
Matter of preference. I can't be bothered to re-heat pizza with the oven/stove so I just eat it cold. But I'd heat it up if I had a microwave.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
Toaster oven. It's not the same but it's a different treat, even crispier
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
Putting it directly on the over rack at 350 usually works fine for me.
(Not owning a microwave teaches you patience…)
TBi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
Cover the pan while heating it up. Crispy and tasty.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 343d
Hell yeah
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 343d
I'm assuming the US isn't on the list since we measure our pizza in pounds.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
And because there's a place to make (and usually deliver) fresh pizza on every corner :p
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 343d
You're telling me there's a metric for food eaten by a country (in this case frozen pizza) and USA doesn't even make the LIST???
BUT ITALY DOES???? GOD DAMMIT ITALY! YOU HAVE FRESH AUTHENTIC ITALIAN PIZZA LITERALLY EVERYWHERE!!! EVERY LOCAL PIZZERIA IS AUTHENTIC ITALIAN PIZZA FOR YOU!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING????
MHLoppy@fedia.io · 4 pts · 343d
Thank you for leaning into the account name roleplay now and then :P
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Honestly thought this reply was going to be about the post where I told the guy to tickle his sales directors balls, to be more like Steve Irwin
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 14 pts · 342d
I put pizza in the fridge.
Hell, I put bread in the fridge, but that's because I don't eat it quick enough.
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
Same. Bread lasts a lot longer in the fridge.
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 343d
Yes, pizza goes in the fridge if I didn't eat all of it in time. I have a food manager safety certificate somewhere so I probably should know exactly what foods need to go in there, but look. My brain is mush. A lot goes in there to protect us.
Don't buy food from me??
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 343d
If we are talking about after the initial round of consumption, then yes. Leftover food goes in the refrigerator. That’s what refrigerators are for. You don’t leave perishable food sitting out, especially not in a lukewarm oven in the danger zone.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 343d
I like meat on my pizza so yes, it goes in the fridge.
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 343d
I'm not sure why anyone would leave pizza out instead of in the fridge.
Cold pizza is one of my favorite foods. Apparently, cold temperatures can cause certain flavors to intensify. Whatever the reason, it always tastes better the next morning.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Cause I'm a drunk and fall asleep before putting it away.
Otherwise yeah it always goes in the fridge
remon@ani.social · 0 pts · 342d
I'm not sure why you would bother with putting it in the fridge. Room temperature is already cold for pizza.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 343d
Plain or veggie pizza can be left out without too much danger.
Leaving meat pizza out (except maybe pepperoni) is just asking for a bad time.
innermachine@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d
Can confirm. Left a chx calzone I'm my trunk overnight. Slept in the car really fucked up. Woke up hungry and ate the night old chicken. I spent a lot of time on the toilet that day.... Surprisingly few people seem to be aware of the "danger zone" of food, after 2 hours out even rice will grow harmful bacteria and such. Better safe than sorry if u don't know if it can sit out, don't let it sit out. Your gut will thank you later!
Butterpaderp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
I ate some pizza one time that had been left out at work, and I didnt realize it was leftover from the morning crew. Sentenced to 1 week of my life on the toilet.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 343d
Where else am I gonna store the leftovers?
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 343d
My house
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Sure you pay for the transportation to get it (and me) there!
remon@ani.social · 0 pts · 342d
On the counter/stove.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 343d
The reason why you can (not especially safely) eat takeout pizza that's been sitting out overnight is because it's usually loaded with salt. Salt is a preservative, and limits growth of the nasties.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 343d
Yeah makes me really thirsty and hold so much water for a day or two after.
Never good for weigh in days
sheridan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 342d
I put it in the fridge because cold pizza for breakfast is one of my favorite things.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
I really think it depends on the flavour of pizza.
iii@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 342d
I usually buy delicious flavour
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 342d
My favourite
iii@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 342d
What a coincidence!!!!!
tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 343d
I'd put something in the fridge regardless, just because whatever fridge life it has, that'll extend it.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Longer life is good an all, but cold bread isn't so nice and heating a focaccia messes it up in my opinion
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 343d
I put pizza in the freezer, and put it in the oven again before I eat it.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 343d
I like using my airfryer oven machine thing on a combo to reheat pizza. Helps maintain a crunch i just can't get from the oven without burning the crust a bit
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 335d
My crust gets blackened spots. Never thought about using an air fryer...
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 334d
Can't hurt to try
callyral@pawb.social · 6 pts · 343d
If I just leave it the ants will get it
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 343d
Ah yeah damn ants, I'm glad my house now doesn't seem to have them.
I think it's the pest control I get done every 6 months or so.
Growing up we always had ants it was terrible
Kernal64@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 343d
Forget the fridge, why do you keep food on a bench? Don't you have tables?
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 343d
7 tables to be precise, but they're for different things.
The kitchen bench seems a great a place as any
QualifiedKitten@discuss.online · 2 pts · 342d
I suspect the confusion might be do to regional language differences? Where I'm from, a "bench" is something usually used for sitting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bench_(furniture)
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Might be a language thing by "bench" do you mean the counter top?
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Nah I mean bench, but it is interchangeable in my native language,
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
That's what I meant most places a "bench" is something you sit on. That's why folks were confused.
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 334d
my workbench disagrees.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Boy is the word shelf gunna throw you guys then haha
ripcord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 343d
Yes. Then eat cold. Mmmm
iii@mander.xyz · -2 pts · 343d
Stop I'm gonna cum
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 342d
I put it back in the oven after it's cooled down (the oven) and have it the next day for breakfast.
Peasley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
i find it still palateable after 24 hours out, but i never go past that, usually overnight at the most. my partner will let it sit for longer if i dont intervene
the flavor and texture degrade quite a bit even just overnight. if you put it in the fridge right away (in something airtight) flavor and texture stay much more intact. For me i will give it up to 5 days in the fridge before throwing it out.
if i have way too much pizza i freeze slices in airtight bags. a bit of a hassle to reheat, but it comes out almost as good as fresh
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 343d
I don't understand "too much pizza" how can you possibly have to much. Seriously though frozen pizza put back into my air-frier oven thing comes out good as the day it was bought
Peasley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
too much to eat before it goes bad. i max out at pizza twice a day personally. if i have more than a two pies worth i need to start freezing
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 343d
Yeah i think if it wasn't so unhealthy i would eat it all the time.
There's just so much variation in what can be done with it.
Any toppings or flavours you want, unfortunately though all pizza where I am is very salty leaving my very thirsty
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
Overnight, no. If I don't eat it for breakfast the next morning, then I'll toss it in the fridge at that point.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 343d
I have almost never put leftover pizza in the fridge. Generally store it in the oven. That's how my folks did it. Never had any problems. Was not expecting to come into this thread and see universal adoption of fridge pizza. I find the crust gets wet and gooey. You all do you, but after fifty years of doing it my way without any issues, I can't see any reason to change.
lucg@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
I hear smokers with similar opinions. Some get really old. It's luck, not wisdom
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d
Whenever you put any hot, bread-based food into the fridge it’ll get soggy. Gotta wait for it to cool down completely before putting it in the fridge.
This extends even to the trip home from a takeout pizza place. Putting the box in one of those thermal bags is one of the worst things you can do, since it traps all the steam inside. Much better to leave the pizza on the passenger seat with the box ajar (some pizza boxes even have steam vents).
hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 342d
I freeze it. Takes 1-2 minutes to reheat.
kinther@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
Wrap it in aluminum foil and its fine in the freezer.
Oberyn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d
… wy would you put it any where else but fridge ❔️
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 342d
Because drunk and forget normally
watson387@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 343d
I generally put it in the fridge, but I've probably eaten more drunken, left out pizza than most and it never messed me up. I guess I don't know either. lol
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 343d
It occurred to me because I just ate 3 pieces of overnight loaded garlic bread and justified it to myself as a focaccia haha.
Guess we wait and see.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 342d
I probably should, but I generally just pop it in the oven overnight and finish it within 24 hours. Could I get sick? Yeah, potentially, but I've been doing this for decades and haven't gotten sick once.
I always reheat my leftover pizza though, so if you're going to eat it cold YMMV.
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 343d
We keep our bread in the fridge, otherwise it goes moldy in 2 or 3 days and we don't eat much bread at my house
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 343d
It makes it go stale quicker.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 343d
I don't buy this, not if it's sealed.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 343d
Refridgeration speeds up starch retrogradation. Being sealed doesn't matter; it's the cold.
twice_hatch@midwest.social · 1 pts · 343d
I could leave it out all day like 8 hours and then put it in the fridge later
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 342d
No, I just leave it out in the kitchen and eat it over the next day or two.