Is there any good alternative to myAnimeList or would you recommend I go back to the spreadsheet?
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Why does MyAnimeList need 938 partners?
Is there any good alternative to myAnimeList or would you recommend I go back to the spreadsheet?
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64 Comments
markz@suppo.fi · 132 pts · 296d
We and our 938 partners value your privacy
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 296d
“Babe, but it feels better without a condom.”
msage@programming.dev · 10 pts · 296d
It really does
silasmariner@programming.dev · 8 pts · 296d
Just one of the many perks of a stable monogamous relationship.
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 296d
We and our 938 partners value your health.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 296d
That's true though
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 296d
We and our 938 partners value your health.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 296d
Hell yeah
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 296d
And all of them have stellar security. No data ever leaks anywhere.
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 296d
And don't forget these partners have other partners of their own.
artyom@piefed.social · 64 pts · 296d
Unfortunately this is just the state of the web in the modern day. Virtually every site exists to serve you ads while simultaneously collecting your data and selling it to their "partners" in exchange for their content.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 296d
I would love to see any actual verifiable positive ROI numbers directly linked to or resultant from the money a company spent to purchase these targeted ads.
Meron35@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 296d
That's the neat part, you can't, because the companies that run ad networks (e.g. Google and Meta) intentionally make the consumer behaviours market as opaque as possible. As the market maker, they have an economic incentive to withold information from their customers, because any mistakes from market participants due to information assymetries directly translate to profit surplus for the market maker.
We have long since moved on from simple pay per click/view pricing models to pay per "impression," the definition of which is not clear even to the companies that purchase the ads.
And in a somewhat ironic twist, one of the motivations for such extensive surveillance is the desire to quantify such ROIs. Statistics and analytics such as click through and conversion rates all require tracking user behaviour across vast networks.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 296d
trailee@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 296d
I wish I could find the ad impression bot fraud article I think I saw on Lemmy recently, but alas. It’s a scammy house of cards.
irmadlad@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
I guess what I'm thinking is this scenario: if a person never had a gmail account or used any google products ever, google still makes bank off that person by using third-party cookies & scripts, cross-site tracking, fingerprinting, Ad ID / Device ID sync, et al. How can you not call that data theft when you don't use their products?
Now I'm sure somewhere in the google products TOS, it states you will bend over and spread your cheeks, but for the person that doesn't use said company's products, this seems a bit different.
irmadlad@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 296d
I've always thought (anecdotally - no substantiating evidence) that advertising on the internet, which is much different that advertising in a magazine or billboard, is probably a loss leader or close to it. The real value for the product manufacturer is the data they steal from you. In all honesty, I can't think of a product or service I've purchased that was based on an advertisement. 99.999% of the time, I know what I need or have a really good idea, and will research it on the internet extensively, depending on value, and make my purchase based on my research. It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network, so maybe I am not as affected as those who see ads in every square inch of their monitor every day, like they're on a porn site.
Network so tight I call it virgin. /s
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 296d
But the whole purpose of stealing your data is to better serve you ads. So I’m not seeing anywhere in your argument that shows actual profit.
irmadlad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
Well, it wasn't so much an argument as it was a muse. I'm not a marketing guru and again, I am expert at nothing.I do run several businesses, but word of mouth is my advertisement.
The purpose of an advertisement, say in a magazine or on a billboard, is to sell you goods or services. Those goods or services are '$Price A' which is cost to manufacture, taxes/applicable fees, plus overhead and profit. On the internet, yet another element is added and a very invasive element: Data Collection & Brokering. So, without even selling you goods or services, the company in question is making bonus bucks from collecting your data and using it/selling/trading it. So, on the internet, the company in question is double dipping IMHO. Once for enticing you to buy their goods or services, and the most nefarious IMHO, collecting your data via all manner of sneaky ways. So, it seems to me, whether or not they sell you a product or service, they're already making bank on a global scale, and not affording you due compensation for creating the data in the first place. Creating takes labor and labor is compensated with $$. If it means billions of dollars to the company in question, then it's worth a lot to little ol' me. Even if it were just clicking a mouse or typing on a keyboard, your data has high value, and they know it.
I call this data theft. It is the very same offense if I walked into the CEO's office of a fore mentioned corporation, and picked up a paper weight, stuck it in my pocket, and walked out the door. It's data theft. Now it may be the bowl talking so feel free to spool me right up if I have err'd in my thought process.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
Well ya. This is like saying you don't get why guns are dangerous and then mentioning how you have bullet proof windows.
The whole scheme breaks apart if you block the constant images trying to make you buy things. I see it affecting others, no one in their right mind would buy a 100k car if it wasn't for ads imo.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 296d
I think the AI bubble is actually a deeper, more structural data bubble. There isn't actually a case for profitability, they're just doing it out of investor demands and inertia and because That's Just How We Do Things.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 296d
Not only that, but literally the only reason we even have these popups now is because of recent European laws
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 296d
I mean the alternative is that they simply sell it without your consent.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 296d
Yeah that's my point
shneancy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
i mean, they still do that anyway, for all we know the "disagree" button does fuck all. but at least now we know that they do it, hooray?
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 296d
Maybe they do, but this way at least they're legally liable for ignoring consent.
bluemoon@piefed.social · 1 pts · 294d
corporations are powerful in weak states and srates are weak without citizen participation in politics (parliament & streets) /nordic centric view
jesale@lemmy.zip · 44 pts · 296d
faltryka@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 296d
Because you are the product.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 296d
The 938 partners who really really Really REALLY fucking hate you
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 296d
i chortled
baatliwala@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 296d
Where's Lemmy gold when you need it
muhyb@programming.dev · 29 pts · 296d
to value your privacy
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 296d
In a literal sense. They're putting a price on your privacy, and there are 938 buyers.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 296d
It so so so so extremely angers me that companies ALWAYS FUCKING LIE.
FUCK YOU YOU DO NOT
Just be fucking honest that you don't give a shit, money is your only bottom line, and you would rape and murder my mother if you even thought it would make you money. Fuck all of you
I want a law that says that companies cannot behave like this. You cannot say "your call is important to us" every 2 minutes while I've been waiting on the phone for three hours to be able to return your piece of shit product that arrived broken, but you were too cheap to invest in basic customer support.
I want marketing and advertising outlawed. Completely. It's allowed for companies to lay out their products, but you're not. allowed. to. lie. No "we're the best!" Fuck you, you're the absolute worst. A company like Comcast should be forbidden from claiming they're good at anything as they suck at everything and only manage to continue to exist because of fucking lying through their teeth with their marketing.
these sort of shit popups is just the next logical step that starts literally with the first words being an absolute lie
Fuck this shit
tlmcleod@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 296d
They do value our privacy, but they just mean they're putting a $ amount on it, not that they care about it
Feyd@programming.dev · 23 pts · 296d
It's almost like they don't really value your privacy
undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 296d
And this is why we are going to violate it in every way possible!
kiagam@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
They are honest, but not very clear. We could rewrite that as "we assigned monetary value to your privacy"
Cris16228@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 296d
It reminds me of
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 296d
To give you a better personalized experience™ of course!
Just block the partners, should still work. All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 296d
As if the commercial sites were any better...
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 296d
There are commercial anime sites?
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
I assume. I mean, they do make money somehow, and it's probably not by getting pirated.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 296d
Well, the usual ones make money via ads but the content is all pirated. I think fan translations for subs are not unusual either?
Edit: seems like Crunchyroll, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ & co. are some legal streamers. Of course, like with other shows, each one has only a few.
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 296d
They took harem anime's to heart?
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 296d
Livechart.me ?
Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 296d
There is anime-planet which I use. There's also anilist. Don't know how private either of them are.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 296d
xia@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 296d
hehe... you TOO can become a partner! We're having a special! Anyone willing to pay for partnership access coincidentally gets an unrelated trove of personal data!
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 296d
Anilist & Kitsu. (Kitsu is OpenSource, I think)
shneancy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
dw about it, your data will be safe amongst their friends! MyAnimeList and their 938 closest friends :)
tordenflesk@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 296d
Turn on the 'Cookie notices' filter lists in Ublock Origin.
JanUwU42@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 295d
Switch to Anilist ^^ Many FOSS Apps available :)
Switching is super easy
capuccino@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 296d
MyPartnerList
Armand1@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 296d
I've been using https://kitsu.app/ for over 11 years.
That said, it's a bit janky. There are some minor bugs that will likely never get fixed because it's on a shoestring budget.
You can always import/export your library as XML though, so you can go back and forth between Kitsu and MAL.
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 3 pts · 296d
https://anidb.net/ maybe?
utopiah@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 296d
Thanks for highlighting that.
The same way IMDB has https://imdbapi.dev/ or https://www.omdbapi.com/ (which I did use for a bit) is there an equivalent, namely MyAnimeList DB or API?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 296d
Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 296d
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 296d
Maybe https://www.anime-planet.com/ ?
Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 294d
sounds like a good anime title
SolarPunker@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 296d
I use Showly (without any account) from F-Droid for movies and series
other_cat@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 291d
Unfortunate there's not a good substitute for MyAnimeList, I'm really not a fan of the website design.
Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 296d
Don't install anything that needs to invade your privacy so massively.
bluemoon@piefed.social · 1 pts · 294d
it doesn't need that. use Kitsu or selfhost using NeoDB.
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 296d
use stremio + Torrentio and optionally a paid Real Debrid subscription. You can actually stream from torrent found from thepiratebay or other torrent sites.
Killer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 296d
Mal isn't a streaming service