I have phases where plain, untoasted toast bread is exactly what I want to eat. And I live in Germany, good bread is quite readily available, though it's getting pretty expensive these days compared to storebrand toast. On that note, good bread with butter is great. Truly great bread tastes good plain!
The annoying part is that getting a fresh loaf with just the right amount of moisture depends on luck and/or getting to the baker really early. For my tastes, German rye/wheat sourdough bread turns from "great" to "just OK" rather quickly, especially if you're buying half loafes because you're living in a one person household.
Just freeze the part that you dont plan to immediately eat. Im also a german enjoyer of fresh and/or homemade bread and thats what ive been doing for years. Buy bread/brötchen and directly chuck it in the freezer. When you need some, it will thaw in like 1-2h if you just leave it in a paper bag. The consistency and crunchyness will be perfectly preserved in my experience. If you need it fast then a microwave and/or toaster can help, but the microwave can make it mushy if you leave it too long.
One of my last memories of my father is making him toast. Then he asked for another. Then we laughed when he asked for more. We ate the whole loaf laughing.
That's a wonderful memory, thank you for sharing. I've got a massive smile on my face imagining you guys laughing so much that it was hard to eat the toast. That might not be how it happened, but it's a sweet mental image nonetheless
Toast is a weird thing where you take bread, which is baked, and you say "no, this needs to be baked even more! In fact I'll buy a machine specifically for doing this!"
So maybe this is better pondered after a bong hit... but the point of making toast is really to expose the soft inside of the bread and crisp that up like the crust of the original bread. So, with a thick slice like Texas Toast, could you cut that toast into strips and re-toast the newly-exposed edges? What would that be called? And how many times could you do that?
We do that with other stuff too. Twice fried chips (i.e. thicker french fries) are incredible.
Actually, that makes sense now that I think about it. Twice fried chips involves frying once at a lower temperature, and then again at a bit higher temperature. I imagine this is what's happening with toast too, as I'm pretty sure the toaster is operating at a higher temperature than what the bread is baked at. We want the exterior browning of the higher temperature, but we also need the bread to rise properly in the oven.
It's my favourite on pancakes! Even maple syrup, which I love so much that I enjoy eating it by the spoonful, just doesn't compare to that crunchy texture.
But I mean, two sources of fat doesn't make it redundant, they're doing different things. The butter makes the toast not dry, and the peanut butter makes it creamy and adds flavor. It's like a grilled cheese, cheese and butter are both fat sources, but they're not redundant.
Definitely can taste it. It melts into the toast first, and the peanut butter doesn't, so the taste is more buttered toast + pb. It also softens the toast, so theres a distinct texture difference between that and just peanut butter on toast.
Grilled pb sandwich is interesting though now imma have to try that.
Only when I make my own bread. Store bought bread is basically tasteless and should only be used as a medium to contain sandwich ingredients when you wre too tired/lazy/incapable of making your own.
Where do you live? I feel like this rings quite differently if you live in the US or UK, vs. one of the central European countries with a rich bread tradition.
If you ever find yourself in Mexico, go to a neighborhood tortillería and buy a couple of fresh tortillas. They may have been made using a machine but they're so soft and smell amazing. I'd usually walk out with a small bag in one hand and a rolled up tortilla in the other.
My coworker's family runs one and sometimes they bring me back a bag. It's not fresh obviously, but they're still better than anything I've found at the store.
I really need to find a good tortilleria here.
But yeah, I'm still trying to convince my SO to go, but the news about cartel activities certainly don't help.
Toast and butter - maybe with a bit of garlic rubbed on the bread prior to buttering - is perfect on its own. Especially in the autumn with the cold weather coming in.
My understanding is that it's a borrowed food in east Asia, esp Japan and Korea. Japan uses the Portuguese word "pão", and Korean "bbang" is a derivative of that, and but Chinese bao seems to be different. I'm guessing a lot of eastern and south east Asian countries are similar.
Used to up until my early 20s, I very rarely buy plain white bread now and it's not that common in stores here (Sweden). Obviously there's two or three brands of basic white toast bread and some in store fresh white bread but we have tons of choices with so many different ingredients, and never any weird additives or bread that is as much bread as american cheese is cheese (seen those kinds abroad and from images and videos from the US).
My current two favourites are a wholegrain durum wheat sourdough with flaxseeds and sea salt and the other is a rye sourdough with wort, barley malt and a small amount of dark treacle (similar to molasses in taste).
But I often try new kinds, even the smaller food stores here have like 30 different breads (not including stuff like burger and hot dog buns etc.)
re: buttered sourdough bread: also fantastic is texas toast on a skillet - just melt the butter, let the bread soak it up on each side, then pan toast that shit. it's glorious.
I miss the days before I'd made the very upsetting connection of the digestive consequences for eating a loaf of buttered toast with eating a loaf of buttered toast.
I'm staying in a friend's spare room at the moment, and one of the staple foods they always have in is bagels. I have been going nuts for buttered, toasted bagels lately. At first, it was just because I was hungry and there wasn't anything else in that I could eat, but lately I've been enjoying them so much that I've had to make them one of the items that I buy (so that I don't end up eating so many that they run out)
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rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 47 pts · 304d
I have phases where plain, untoasted toast bread is exactly what I want to eat. And I live in Germany, good bread is quite readily available, though it's getting pretty expensive these days compared to storebrand toast. On that note, good bread with butter is great. Truly great bread tastes good plain!
The annoying part is that getting a fresh loaf with just the right amount of moisture depends on luck and/or getting to the baker really early. For my tastes, German rye/wheat sourdough bread turns from "great" to "just OK" rather quickly, especially if you're buying half loafes because you're living in a one person household.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 304d
Just freeze the part that you dont plan to immediately eat. Im also a german enjoyer of fresh and/or homemade bread and thats what ive been doing for years. Buy bread/brötchen and directly chuck it in the freezer. When you need some, it will thaw in like 1-2h if you just leave it in a paper bag. The consistency and crunchyness will be perfectly preserved in my experience. If you need it fast then a microwave and/or toaster can help, but the microwave can make it mushy if you leave it too long.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 304d
I have considered that, but I just don't have the space in my freezer.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 303d
Thanks for the tip about the paper bag. I'll have to try that when I next have access to a freezer
aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com · 20 pts · 304d
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 12 pts · 304d
Was about to say, I think I eat the first third of a loaf in the hour after the bread machine finishes. Fresh bread while its still warm is too good.
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 304d
One of my last memories of my father is making him toast. Then he asked for another. Then we laughed when he asked for more. We ate the whole loaf laughing.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 303d
That's a wonderful memory, thank you for sharing. I've got a massive smile on my face imagining you guys laughing so much that it was hard to eat the toast. That might not be how it happened, but it's a sweet mental image nonetheless
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 304d
Toast is a weird thing where you take bread, which is baked, and you say "no, this needs to be baked even more! In fact I'll buy a machine specifically for doing this!"
Psaldorn@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 304d
We've had one, yes, but what about second maillard reaction?
dmention7@midwest.social · 7 pts · 304d
So maybe this is better pondered after a bong hit... but the point of making toast is really to expose the soft inside of the bread and crisp that up like the crust of the original bread. So, with a thick slice like Texas Toast, could you cut that toast into strips and re-toast the newly-exposed edges? What would that be called? And how many times could you do that?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
At a certain point you just have croutons
_g_be@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Bread becomes slices, slices become bread sticks, bread sticks become croutons
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 3 pts · 304d
Throw the bread in a pan is so 1900.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 303d
We do that with other stuff too. Twice fried chips (i.e. thicker french fries) are incredible.
Actually, that makes sense now that I think about it. Twice fried chips involves frying once at a lower temperature, and then again at a bit higher temperature. I imagine this is what's happening with toast too, as I'm pretty sure the toaster is operating at a higher temperature than what the bread is baked at. We want the exterior browning of the higher temperature, but we also need the bread to rise properly in the oven.
derry@midwest.social · 12 pts · 304d
And cinnamon
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 304d
Do you sprinkle the cinnamon on it? I've never heard of this but fucking love cinnamon
Manjushri@piefed.social · 9 pts · 304d
Can't speak for them, but I mix cinnamon and sugar and sprinkle that one the buttered toast.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 304d
It's my favourite on pancakes! Even maple syrup, which I love so much that I enjoy eating it by the spoonful, just doesn't compare to that crunchy texture.
derry@midwest.social · 3 pts · 304d
Sure do and it's pretty damn amazing. The sugar the other reply mentions is a nice touch it too.
Khanzarate@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Also peanut butter. Yes, still with normal butter. Also works with cinnamon, too.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
Why with regular butter? That sounds like a redundant amount of fat.
Khanzarate@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
It is indulgent for sure.
But I mean, two sources of fat doesn't make it redundant, they're doing different things. The butter makes the toast not dry, and the peanut butter makes it creamy and adds flavor. It's like a grilled cheese, cheese and butter are both fat sources, but they're not redundant.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
On a grilled cheese, you taste the butter first because it's on the outside, and get the cheese later on the inside.
It sounds like the butter goes between the pb and bread, can you really still taste it? Or do you put it on the outside like with a grilled cheese?
Khanzarate@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Definitely can taste it. It melts into the toast first, and the peanut butter doesn't, so the taste is more buttered toast + pb. It also softens the toast, so theres a distinct texture difference between that and just peanut butter on toast.
Grilled pb sandwich is interesting though now imma have to try that.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 303d
Ooh, I'm going to try this.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
Make cinnamon bread so you just add butter. So good.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 11 pts · 304d
Phase? You mean the craving for good butter toast is going to end at some point?
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 304d
Just reading this meme made me want some
party_planet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
I love good butter on toast, I have it most days it's so good
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 304d
What’s that?
Valthorn@feddit.nu · 7 pts · 304d
I think I read about it once. Sounded awful!
RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 304d
My dad and I used to eat an entire French baguette on the way home from the grocery store. I love bread.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
Did someone say buttered toast??
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 304d
There are people who don’t experience this?’
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 304d
Only when I make my own bread. Store bought bread is basically tasteless and should only be used as a medium to contain sandwich ingredients when you wre too tired/lazy/incapable of making your own.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 304d
Where do you live? I feel like this rings quite differently if you live in the US or UK, vs. one of the central European countries with a rich bread tradition.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
100% this, but some fancier breads are fine from the store.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d
My daughter came over once & I had fresh sourdough I'd made so I offered her bread and water.
"May I offer you fresh sourdough with butter and chilled filtered water?"
Yes I don't get tired of that. Good bread is good. So good.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
Id rather have some olive oil and balsamic vinegar but yeah I'd eat that every day if I could
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 304d
Try fresh tortillas, they work the same way. Not the precooked ones, but the raw ones you cook on a pan.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 304d
If you ever find yourself in Mexico, go to a neighborhood tortillería and buy a couple of fresh tortillas. They may have been made using a machine but they're so soft and smell amazing. I'd usually walk out with a small bag in one hand and a rolled up tortilla in the other.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
My coworker's family runs one and sometimes they bring me back a bag. It's not fresh obviously, but they're still better than anything I've found at the store.
I really need to find a good tortilleria here.
But yeah, I'm still trying to convince my SO to go, but the news about cartel activities certainly don't help.
d00ery@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Marmite
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
Cenovis but I'm with you 100% on that one. My kids and wife don't share my live of the black stuff, but it is so good!
stefenauris@pawb.social · 3 pts · 304d
Yup it's happened to me too
Drusas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 304d
Toast with butter and jam.
fonix232@fedia.io · 4 pts · 304d
No no no. That is dessert at that point.
Toast and butter - maybe with a bit of garlic rubbed on the bread prior to buttering - is perfect on its own. Especially in the autumn with the cold weather coming in.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 304d
I can't taste any amount of garlic below a spoonful of toum. I might just need to call it quits
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 298d
Buttered toast with garlic powder was my jam back when I was completely impoverished.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 304d
On that note, butter on toast with a sprinkle of sugar is magic
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 304d
Doesn't every culture on earth have some sort of bread product? I would guess that is because once you have it, it is addictive.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
My understanding is that it's a borrowed food in east Asia, esp Japan and Korea. Japan uses the Portuguese word "pão", and Korean "bbang" is a derivative of that, and but Chinese bao seems to be different. I'm guessing a lot of eastern and south east Asian countries are similar.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 304d
Depends, only if its fresh bread and preferably sourdough :3
calmblue75@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 304d
Occasional?
Zeon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Toasted English muffin with cream cheese and jelly goes crazy.
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 304d
I'd personally go butter not cream cheese, but otherwise agree
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
Sounds like you want a bagel.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 303d
Nah, bagels are great, but they're completely different texturally
Edit: not in a bad way, just different in a sense where a bagel isn't a replacement for an English muffin (nor a muffin a replacement for a bagel)
M137@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Used to up until my early 20s, I very rarely buy plain white bread now and it's not that common in stores here (Sweden). Obviously there's two or three brands of basic white toast bread and some in store fresh white bread but we have tons of choices with so many different ingredients, and never any weird additives or bread that is as much bread as american cheese is cheese (seen those kinds abroad and from images and videos from the US).
My current two favourites are a wholegrain durum wheat sourdough with flaxseeds and sea salt and the other is a rye sourdough with wort, barley malt and a small amount of dark treacle (similar to molasses in taste). But I often try new kinds, even the smaller food stores here have like 30 different breads (not including stuff like burger and hot dog buns etc.)
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 304d
Mmmmm Fresh sourdough from a bakery
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
re: buttered sourdough bread: also fantastic is texas toast on a skillet - just melt the butter, let the bread soak it up on each side, then pan toast that shit. it's glorious.
lefaucet@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 303d
I miss the days before I'd made the very upsetting connection of the digestive consequences for eating a loaf of buttered toast with eating a loaf of buttered toast.
SkellyMonstera@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 304d
This is me, but with naan and baba ganoush. Can put away 10 slices of naan if I'm left unsupervised.
AmbientDread@midwest.social · 2 pts · 304d
Folk Wisdom: The whiter the bread the quicker you're dead.
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
That's just being French, but yeah, we hear you ;)
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 304d
Buttered toast with peanut butter. If you can get some homemade apple butter to make it a sandwich, now that's the best thing ever.
JamieDub86@piefed.social · 2 pts · 304d
Yeah. Most evenings when I get back from work.
Juice@midwest.social · 2 pts · 304d
I don't experience the restraint
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Non salted crackers
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
butter on saltines as a scooping tool for chili: perfection
I did not know people did this. I'm glad I found out.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
That "occasional phase" is called "keto diet."
toynbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
After viewing the post but before looking at the poster, I thought this was a LadyButterfly post.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 303d
I'm staying in a friend's spare room at the moment, and one of the staple foods they always have in is bagels. I have been going nuts for buttered, toasted bagels lately. At first, it was just because I was hungry and there wasn't anything else in that I could eat, but lately I've been enjoying them so much that I've had to make them one of the items that I buy (so that I don't end up eating so many that they run out)
Skua@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 304d
"Occasional"?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 304d
I really struggle to get through bread. Even whatever the hell the McDonalds brioche is made of, I can’t always finish it.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
Try making a fresh loaf at home, it's way better. I can finish a fresh, whole wheat loaf in a sitting.