Donald Trump Confuses Dementia Screening for 'Very Hard' IQ Test as He Brags About Results
https://people.com/donald-trump-mistakes-dementia-screening-for-iq-test-11837935
https://people.com/donald-trump-mistakes-dementia-screening-for-iq-test-11837935
115 Comments
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 209 pts · 304d
Isn't this the second time this exact thing has happened?
jonne@infosec.pub · 150 pts · 304d
Yep, and despite all that and his first term half the US voters still figured he'd be a great President.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 304d
But he could totally identify which one was the elephant, and didn't confuse it with the rhino or the camel even once. I'm pretty sure that qualifies anyone to be the bigliest president.
TheMadCodger@piefed.social · 12 pts · 304d
Yeah, but Biden was just so old. Many people said so!
n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 304d
It's fun to remind them that Trump was older when he took office in '25 than Biden was in '21.
TheMadCodger@piefed.social · 9 pts · 303d
It's fun to remind them that he's never won against a man.
For reasons that don't make any sense to me, that seems to really bother them. 🤔
jonne@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 304d
Democrats didn't help themselves by running terrible candidates with shitty policies, yeah.
hypeerror@sh.itjust.works · 66 pts · 304d
They're going to keep giving it to him to gauge his decline.
NutWrench@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 304d
Yeah, this is Trump's second "annual visit" to Walter Reed hospital.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 304d
Different thing. During his first term, he claimed to have aced a certain cognitive test his doctors gave him. When questioned about it, it sounds like he got the MoCA test, which you can see here:
https://geriatrictoolkit.missouri.edu/cog/MoCA-8.3-English-Test-2018-04.pdf
Yeah, that's not a test an adult takes when your doctor thinks everything in your brain is fine.
GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social · 3 pts · 304d
Let's hope its a trilogy and there's no reboots.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 303d
Yeah but he didn't remember the first time.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 163 pts · 304d
You genuinely couldn't make this shit up, could you?
Also, I hate that I now read quotes from him in his voice. I want it out of my head.
pticrix@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 304d
My tired ass first read "you genetically couldn't make this shit up", and frankly, we should preemptively make a law for this.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 304d
Easy. Just swap his voice out for Kevin Hart's.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 304d
Fucking cash back credit card ads in my head now. I wish ublock worked on my TV
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 304d
PiHole. 🤘🏼
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 304d
Yeah it’s been on my todo list for years. I gotta pick up an Ethernet cable for adding it to my lan.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 303d
Doesn't this not actually block the ads because they started delivering them via the same domain as the content (like years ago?)
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 303d
Ways to counter this are available and the barrier to access is upheld in order to both mitigate attention paid to it (ie. tends to hasten correction of related exploits) and hopefully ensure that the user base is informed & capable of (empowered by) using it. 🤓🤘🏼
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 143 pts · 304d
Tbh, those tests are normally done when you already have issues to determine the severity, and his narcissism does not allow any other message than "perfect score", so i would be more concerned about that his immediate surroundings wanted him to have an MRI and dementia screenings.
NutWrench@lemmy.ml · 60 pts · 304d
Maybe Trump got a perfect score for dementia. You know, 100% dementia.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 304d
He's got the best dementia. It's so hot. Everyone is saying how great his dementia is.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 304d
His test came back positive!
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 29 pts · 304d
That's what I said the first time he bragged about his doctors saying that he doesn't have dementia: I don't think people without indicators need in-depth screenings in the first place.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 304d
There is some clip from this where he's like "Hippo, lion, tiger. Crocket couldnt do that. It gets very hard at 10."
Bruh he's literally being asked to list just any fucking animal he can. Like... this is a test for 3yos.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 304d
I've taken a number of IQ tests, not one of them had pictures of animals on it.
deafboy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
And I think it's about time we do something about it!
shalafi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
You had the spirit of the quote:
He's naming the big animals that we first learned of as toddlers, same as you attributed to him!
Tried this myself. Went about 2 minutes till I got bored.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
It would be literally the most hilarious in the history of US politics if it wasn't such a horrible reality we're in.
If you wrote something this absurd into a book, your editor would make you rewrite it.
ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 304d
It's actually a test for dementia patients, to gauge how severe their disease is. That he's being asked to take it at all is... not good.
Though I'm not really sure if I would prefer him lucid or impaired. It's not like he was a good person when he was in full command of his faculties.
AnitaAmandaHuginskis@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 304d
I do not drink alcohol. The day this guy stops talking I will go to the supermarket and buy a bottle of Champagne and drink it alone.
SippyCup@lemmy.ml · 40 pts · 304d
DRINK WATER.
that will be the worst hangover. Drink a lot of water with that.
Bonson@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
Feeling hungover and not having gods chosen around will probably at least balance it out where you’ll still be ecstatic at least. Champagne is damn good though, hangover be damned so long as you drink a normal amount of water.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 304d
There are better tasting options. A nice cognac, perhaps.
Tja@programming.dev · 8 pts · 304d
Strawberry shake, even better. Or a mango lassi.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 304d
I have a bottle of Michel Forgeron Barrique 1984 I've been sipping now and then. I dress for a Kool-Aid budget but live a cognac life.
ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 304d
My wife and I have a bottle of champagne that was a wedding gift. The day it happens is the day we uncork the bottle.
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 12 pts · 304d
Alcohol triggers two medical conditions I have so I to don't drink anymore. After 6 years without a drop of alcohol, trust me you're better off not having it, just buy some fireworks or something.
Flickerby@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 304d
I would but gunpowder exacerbates my acid reflux
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 9 pts · 304d
Gluten free gunpowder, a bit more expensive but worth it once in a while when you want to treat yourself.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 304d
Real gunpowder is gluten free
You're thinking of the knockoff brand glunpowder
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 304d
That's why you have to light the fireworks before eating them. They undergo a chemical reaction when lit and are not longer gunpowder after a few seconds.
hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 304d
If I may ask, what conditions?
I'm currently trying to figure out why alcohol triggers migraines for me, but only sometimes. Lately it's been most times. I only drink socially now, and even then, more often than not I abstain.
I'm not talking big drinking, I mean one Manhattan can either be the beginning of a fun night where I might have two or three more drinks, tops. Or I can feel the headache starting before I even finish the first drink.
Replace whiskey with gin, vodka, beer, wine, whatever. All have the same 50/50 chance of ruining my night and next day, depending on how hard I ignore it. No rhyme or reason to what alcohol does it, though I admit to not being extremely scientific.
Sugar level doesn't seem to have an effect. Hyper hydration seemingly helps sometimes? But barely. Even with liquid IV or lmnt pregame, no dice. I drink plenty of water every day regardless, I like sugary foods but I avoid pop like the plague.
My recent blood work was all good, fasting glucose was good, so I don't think it's diabetes.
Doctor wasn't extremely helpful. He did recommend trying tiny amounts of alcohol, and different types of alcohol. Trying to see if some combination can bring relief. Then just drink that.
My most recent thought was that maybe it has some connection to my teeth. I get migraines for seemingly no reason, but a bad toothache can definitely be a trigger. I've got a couple bad teeth, and I grind. But dentistry is expensive, so it'll be awhile, if ever, before I find permanent relief there.
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 4 pts · 304d
While I don't get migraines, I do regularly get massive headaches and grind my teeth which are in such bad shape the dentist said it would be cheaper to just get full upper and lower implants at this point. Seeing how alcohol doesn't always trigger the migraine I'd say yes it's probably more to do with your teeth, but I'm just going on what you wrote to produce my unsolicited prognosis.
As for what alcohol triggers for me, GURD (severe and chronic acid reflux) and IBS-D.
The GURD can trigger almost immediately or later, depending on how strong the drink is.
The IBS-D usually hits within 1 to 2 hours of drinking and then it's hours of pain, cramping, sitting on the toilet, and praying for death.
I haven't had a drink since March 2019 and while I'll never fully escape the symptoms of either of these, I have managed to reduce the frequency and severity of them by cutting out all alcohol.
Best of luck figuring out what's causing your migraines. Best advice I can give is stop drinking for a while and see if you still get them, if yes then it's probably not the alcohol.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 303d
You might have a sensitivity to sulphates/ites, which is a common additive to alcoholic drinks to kill off the yeast/other microbes to shelf stabilize them. Although that tends to manifest more as respiratory or hives.
Tannins can cause headaches (so red wines, or any spirit that has been barrel aged).
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 304d
If you don't drink, can I recommend basically anything but champagne? Its not good tasting, get a sweet wine or something else instead.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d
yeah i celebrate with port
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 303d
There's other varieties of Champaign that aren't Brut
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
I’m going to drink a couple bottles of any Mexican beer
littlewonder@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
I love the specificity of Mexican beer.
JTskulk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Until he stops talking I'm drinking Mexican water :(
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 304d
I made jokes about buying a very expensive bottle of scotch (something like Johnny Walker gold label, or even platinum) when Trump dies... but maybe I don't.
dellish@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 304d
Or you could buy some good scotch instead.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 0 pts · 304d
Johnny walker gold and platinum are both over 100$. What is your definition of good scotch and how much does it cost?
wookiepedia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Not the person you were in a conversation with, but all Johnny Walker is blended scotch. I would suggest a single malt instead (the entire bottle is from a single distillation).
I'm partial to peat heavy scotches, and my go to are Lagavulin and Laphroaig, both should be under $100 (been a few years since I've indulged). If you want a more middle of the road honeyed and heathered flavor, go for MacCallan 12 or Glenmorangie, both should be under $60. If you want something with salty seaside flavor to it, opt for a speyside like Glenfiddich or a west highland like Oban.
It's not that jw is a bad whisky, but for what people pay for a bottle of blue, you can get two fantastic bottles of an actual single malt.
dellish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Basically what I was getting at. Personally I really like Islay scotches, so Laphroaig, Lagavulin, Ardbeg (if you REALLY like smoke), Kilchoman, Caol Ila (which is where a lot of Johnny Walker's blend comes from anyway) are all favourites that come reasonably priced.
If you want decent blends I personally go for Dimple or Monkey Shoulder. Or if you have an Aldi nearby, they occasoinally have a great blend called Highland Black which is very reasonably priced for what you get.
tl:dr Johnny Walker is overpriced and not nearly as good as their reputation.
ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 303d
Lesson for the day:
More money != Better than
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 302d
Enjoy those phenols.
Agreed, my own preferences run towards island single-malts, though not so much to the peat-bombs, but there's nothing inherently inferior about blended Scotch. It's just, as you imply, there's a big (and unwarranted) price premium on the brand-name recognition of Johnny Walker. Positional goods, price-equals-value fallacy, etc.
Anyway, for health reasons, I don't have alcohol very often. Instead, I'll fire up a fatty of my favorite sativa, while considering whose doll to stick the next pin in.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
wouldn't be too fast...shit is only getting worse when he croaks.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 304d
I do not drink alcohol. the day this guy stops talking i will continue to not drink alcohol. Just because someone you hate stops talking doesn't mean you need to drink.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 304d
Martinelli's was good enough for me when I was 8, and it is good enough for me at 48.
Explanation: this is a carbonated apple juice, growing up this was provided at many parties for kids as an alternative to champagne. We keep a bottle in our house for celebrations still.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 304d
ill stick to my brio thanks.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 304d
I was agreeing with you and offering a non-alcoholic analog, but you do you bro.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 304d
cheers allan.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
I’m glad you are staying to true to yourself and your own needs, but you can find other ways to celebrate that work for you.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 304d
ok
Muffi@programming.dev · 96 pts · 304d
The related stories are just as funny/tragic:
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 304d
5 words? oh the humanity
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 19 pts · 304d
And he couldn't even remember them, so he glanced around the room and came up with person, woman, man, camera, TV.
piranhaconda@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 304d
And... recalling the words later on in the test... is part of the test. Uh oh
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 303d
ah yes, the 5 genders.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 60 pts · 304d
Any IQ test is hard for him
KnitWit@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 304d
It isn’t even an iq test, it’s a cognitive test. For dementia and stroke patients. Questions are things like ‘place the numbers where they go on an analog clock.’
zurohki@aussie.zone · 20 pts · 304d
I wonder if they're going to change that one. More and more people are going to go their whole lives without ever seeing an analog clock.
People on here get all upset about kids these days who can't read an analog clock. Funnily enough, a lot of those people think it's completely reasonable that they don't know how to drive a manual.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 304d
To be fair, it was mostly that one idiot who thought it should disqualify students from sitting exams..
And I agree. Just like analog clocks and indeed internal combustion engine cars in general, manual transmissions are technology that used to be the norm but is now old fashioned, unnecessary except for rare use cases, and fast approaching obsolete.
Donnywholovedbowling@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 304d
By modern automotive standards, manual transmissions are already obsolete. That said... They're so damn fun to drive, and you feel way more in control because in some sense you are. Just not in the power and fuel savings that the machine picks
zurohki@aussie.zone · 19 pts · 304d
EVs are even better - you're fully in control of the power, without an engine and transmission imposing a bunch of limits and power bands based on engine RPM and vehicle speed.
You actually get the experience that automatic transmissions promise but fail to deliver. If you want power, press the pedal. If you want more power, press the pedal more. That's it. No power fade, surges, hiccups as it shifts, etc.
I prefer a manual to an automatic, but they're both obsolete. Electric motors just do as they're told.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d
Eh, not really. For context, I switched from a hybrid manual to an EV last year. The EV, despite being more expensive, 8 years newer, and much more sporty (in terms of design and marketing) is not nearly as much fun IMHO. If you want a fun car, get a little coupe or hatchback with a manual, doesn't even need a lot of power. If you just want to go fast in a straight line, get an EV.
Nope. You put your foot on the pedal, and the computer decides how fast you want to go. Put your foot on the brake, and the computer decides how hard you want to brake. All your controls are filtered through the computer. If the computer and I disagree, the only thing I can do is push my brake to floor, which engages the physical brakes using a traditional brake boost system, and fight the power steering motor for control of the front wheels, since there is a physical connection there.
In a manual, your control of the engine is much more direct (although mine did have throttle by wire), as well as your control of the transmission and brakes (when compared to an EV).
Honestly, if my wife did not absolutely dog on my CRZ for years, I wouldn't have switched (yet). That being said I do like having a car she can drive and I can "fuel" it up just by plugging it into a standard wall outlet.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
those ev motors are torquey and for some people fun is acceleration
deafboy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
Last time I tried an electric, there was a 0.5s lag between me stepping on the pedal and motor starting to spin. I got used to it pretty quick, but on that first intersection I did not feel especially in controll of the whole situation.
limelight79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
The brake in my wife's ICE car takes that long to disengage after I take my foot off the pedal at red lights. Incredibly distracting for me, as someone who is apparently very "in tune" with the car I'm driving. I didn't notice it during the test drive, but we didn't stop at many red lights that day. When I first noticed it, it caused a brief moment of panic - "What's wrong with the car?!" I'm kind of used to it now, but it still takes me out of any good mood I was in about driving that car. When I take my foot off the pedal, I expect the brakes to release at that moment, not a bit later.
And this isn't the brake hold feature that lets you remove your foot from the brake pedal. I rarely use that. It's just a lag between taking my foot off the pedal, and the brakes releasing. Most people never notice it, I'm sure, but it bugs me.
In general that car feels like there's a computer between you and the road. Everything is so muted, then it does things like the brake lag to remind you that it's in control and you're just making suggestions.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 304d
Easily, the most erudite description of the point I've read so far. 🤌🏼🤓
alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 304d
I remember that episode of Hannibal. Did not end well.
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 304d
He can't even spell IQ
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 304d
Eyeque
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 304d
1)When your optometrist is busy
2)when someone hits you in the ocular region with an implement usually intended for playing pool, billiards, or snooker
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 304d
When you're waiting your turn to go on a multi-elevation walking tour of South London
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 304d
Well there's a lower side to the IQ spectrum. It's why I like to call people idiots.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 304d
New Mexico used to have a law that idiots could not vote, too bad it did not bar them from running for office.
New Mexico Supreme Court affirms amendment ending ban on ‘idiot’ voters interesting to note, this happened in 2016, right before trimp was elected. Coincidence? Maybe not.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 304d
To be fair, the main reason for IQ tests was stop non-white people from voting.
FanciestPants@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
https://geriatrictoolkit.missouri.edu/cog/MoCA-8.3-English-Test-2018-04.pdf
The test
Aeao@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 304d
Okay so this is the second time he’s done that right?
He’s confused a dementia test for an IQ test… twice…
Is that not a sign he might have dementia or something? He should at least remember us making fun of him for it the first time right?
This is an honest question btw. Am I’m missing something? It’s happened twice now?
Jarix@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 304d
I mean it could just mean he has incredibly low IQ, maybe?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 304d
Or both
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 303d
They could also be lying to him what the test really is because he would refuse a dementia test otherwise.
Zron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 303d
The thing with IQ or any cognitive test, is they’re only administered when there’s a call for one.
If trump was behaving like a normal man his age, then there wouldn’t likely be a cognitive test. Just like how most people who get an IQ test are only tested if they’re either exceptionally advanced or exceptionally behind in their learning.
Yet he’s either too demented or too cognitively slow to realize that the fact his doctors want tests means that something seems wrong to them.
TRock@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 304d
Imo you answered your own question👍
victorz@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 304d
Aww bless him, that's just what his people told him the test was for. He doesn't know any better.
😂
😭
SlippiHUD@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 304d
I really think AOC should take him up on this offer and demand it's broadcast live.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 304d
a live telacast of everyone in congress doing dementia screenings would be fantastic imo
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 39 pts · 304d
If he found the cognitive function test very hard...
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 304d
My Dad passed away from from dementia, and he was deep into it before the tests finally officially confirmed it. Literally EVERYONE around him absolutely knew it, but so much of the test had to do with numbers - telling time, adding numbers, etc. - that he did deceptively good on it. He never had a problem with numbers, right up to the end. He had been a Mathmatics major in college, and was hard-wired for numbers. Even dementia couldn't disturb that. I saw a 60 minutes piece on Tony Bennett, and he was exactly the same way with music.
So just because you pass the test, doesn't mean you aren't already showing strong symptoms of dementia. I've never taken the test, and neither has my mother. You only take it when someone suggests that it's a good idea because you've been showing symptoms. Of Trump is taking it, it's probably because those around him are becoming alarmed at his behavior.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 304d
Just another stupid story to distract from the Epstein files.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 304d
Doctor: Draw a clock.
Trump: sweating profusely
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 304d
Again? 🤦
deathbird@mander.xyz · 18 pts · 304d
Is this consistent misunderstanding of his more indicative of his IQ or his dementia?
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 303d
If he was truthful about the results (unlikely), then low IQ. If he was not truthful (likely), it's dementia. Or both.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 304d
Remember the halcyon days when this would have automatically been assumed to be an Onion article? I remember...
Drz@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 303d
Pepperidge farm remembers
lorski@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 304d
💯he has dementia.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 303d
Mildly amusing dystopia
MaybeNaught@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Good lord, he doesn't know how to be discreet about anything. Every topic is a chance for him to try to show off. No one likes a braggart, and no one takes a transparent braggart seriously.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
Bastard's number one producer of anxiety.
Regardless of how sick he is in the fucking head, he is still kept in power so that those who put him in the Oval Office are determined to profit from his regime by even signing policies favoring them.