My wife is Hispanic, and most of her family that doesn't speak English, all love Trump. Apparently, when they translate him speaking into Spanish, they paraphrase everything he says, just to make him sound sane. Her aunt and father would both send her videos, where he's rambling about some stupid, crazy shit, and the Spanish translation is completely different than what's coming out of his mouth. It makes him sound normal.
She's had to explain to them so many times, that what they're hearing, is not what he's actually saying...but when she translates it directly for them, they don't always believe her. Why would they? They can't believe anyone would say that, because it's all nonsense.
They really have no idea just how stupid and dangerous he actually is.
Those translators need to be muted and deafened ya know what shatter their hands irrevocably while your at it. They shouldnt have the ability to lie in such a way.
It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down.
There was a lot of talk about 'recent immigrants', while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it 'the right way' and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them.
Obviously it's the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it's basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you're a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally).
Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know".
For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse.
You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it.
Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept.
They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing.
Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies).
Hey look another person who's immune to propaganda. I'm sure you are wrong about something. Massacre at tiannenmen square maybe? Thats always a good one. How about tank man being run over? Hope you got your facts straight!
Hispanics are by far the largest immigrant population to the US. When MAGA was chanting and holding signs saying "Mass deportations now", it was obvious that Hispanics would be the ones affected the most since they are the largest group. It's not rocket science.
Yeah, we have a few newcomers in the shop here, and conservatives here always tell them it's imperative to vote conservative or they will lose their rights etc... They would have no idea what the implications are if I would not chime in and let them know if they do so they vote for the people who want to kick them out.
It would be one thing if your vote brought in an administration that only affected you. But obviously, that's not how it works. He voted for the hateful, discriminatory Trump who's been exactly who we see every day on the news and in his own words for the last decade plus. He knew it would negatively affect others, he just assumed he would be left alone as one of the "good one" supporters...
I don't mind them deporting him, but people should be returned to their home country, not to a life sentence in some notorious torture prison. They entered America illegally, they should be sent home, but that doesn't deserve a life sentence in a dungeon.
And NOBODY should go anywhere without due process first.
Dude had been in the country for 50 years, married a citizen and had a daughter. I think he's an idiot for being a Trump supporter but the more sensible action would be to let him stay. Entering illegally is a misdemeanor. The president has 34 felonies.
Yeah but attempted murder is a felony. That said I agree he shouldn't have been deported if he's lived a long and productive life as an American without committing further crimes.
why does it matter how someone got here? assuming they aren't causing any actual problems I genuinely don't give a fuck if someone's here "legally" or not. I'm only here because I was born here, so I didn't have to do jack shit, why should they?
I understand keeping track of people entering this country. We can't make it too easy, or every bad person from everywhere would come here, but I also recognize that is a miniscule percentage of actual immigrants. That's why we really need to have due process, because we're probably kicking out a lot of people that would become good taxpaying citizens. But that's all a separate issue.
I'm enormously concerned with this MAGA strategy of sending ANYONE, including criminals, to third countries, and only to those with serious records of human rights abuses, where they will serve life sentences for no crime other than trying to seek a better life for themselves and their families. And it's all done without any lawyers or courts.
Sure, they're just strangers from a strange land, not our problem. But if we let MAGA do it to them, then it's only a matter of time before they do it to the rest of us.
As an immigrant I think you should examine why you think bad people would come here. It's actually pretty difficult and expensive. Like you can already go on vacation almost anywhere on the planet and people don't- mostly because it's a lot of hassle and money.
It's supposed to be a prevention measure. Most people aren't gonna take a weapon to a club but you frisk all of them to discourage the one who will. How the US uses it is entirely bonkers.
I asked him, ‘Why did you even support Trump?’” Monica said. “And he was like, ‘He’s the president. Have faith that things are gonna be different and things are gonna change.’”
BAM! Be the change you want to see in the world /s
Their deportation appears to be part of a secretive transfer arrangement between the U.S. and Eswatini—an extension of Trump’s broader effort to expand the U.S. deportation program into Africa, despite warnings from human rights groups and lawyers who say the practice denies deportees due process and exposes them to abuse.
Documents obtained by The New York Times show that the Eswatini government at one point requested $500 million from the U.S. in exchange for accepting third-country deportees.
well they could take funding from other places?
it’s not a linear plan though… eventually they’ll shift to extermination domestically.
for one i’m sure it’s cheaper per-person, per-day, to imprison someone in a foreign country.
But i think the main motivation right now is just the legal loophole of offshore torture… that and it’s the “flood the zone” strategy (bannon).
After all of the uproar and legal stuff about El Salvador, they shifted to sending people to a whole bunch of other third world dictatorship’s maximum security prisons.
after El Salvador got a lot of press, a lot of other countries probably stepped in and made offers.
Sounds like there’s also a lot of potential for soviet style gulags, forced labor camps, or basically just slavery. If that’s what USA is offering, many dictatorships would probably be glad to make a deal. Once USA figures out how to have gulgas on their own soil, the expenses will suddenly vanish entirely.
He's a cunt who was perfectly happy doing that to other people. I'm not supporting Trump's agenda by taking pleasure in the suffering of someone who actually does. Fuck this guy.
fuck this guy for sure.
the silver lining is at least he’s being forced to see what he’s been supporting this whole time… but he still doesn’t deserve this.
he’s been on hunger strike for a couple weeks now… fuck this guy but not like, fuck him to death in a torture prison….
i guess it’s the gritty, bloody, reality version of a leopard eating one’s face…
Hey man, you can't be a reasonable person on the left anymore, didn't you get the memo? The groupthink is now all about screeching for the blood of our Enemies (countrymen). If you don't want every Trump voter taken out back and shot, you aren't welcome in the Revolution™
hey don’t start pushing me back to hating everyone….
damn it i’m misanthropic again….
everything cool gets taken over by people just along for the ride
at least there’s still Stoic philosophy keeping it real….
Stoicism should not be a shield to guard you from reality. Acknowledge those things that you cannot control, that many people do in fact suck, and focus on the choices you can make. We know people suck, and that history tells us they can suck a whole lot harder. You can accept defeat, tell yourself nothing can be done and resign yourself to whatever consequences may come from that, or?
Certainly not the act in itself, but wishing bad things on others only to have them happen to yourself? The irony is highly entertaining. Couldn't have happened to a worse person.
i wish i could be entertained by it, but i just see mentally ill man sent to be tortured to death in small african dictatorship’s max prison… im sure maximum security means nothing there and its just a little slice of hell….
and of course i see: they’re going to send people like us to places like that, pretty soon… if they keep getting away with it.
I think a lot of people here are experiencing schadenfreude, and aren't capable of contextualizing that anymore. You're not wrong, not even remotely. Sadly, a bull that's wrong and a bull that's right still butt heads and the heaviest bull will win regardless.
Don't be a bull. Be a matador. (Kinda... Like matadors actually are awful but I hope the metaphor at least comes through) You can guide an angry bull. Ask questions until your point becomes self evident. It's not easy but if you want to move the needle, you can't just be another bull in the ring.
It later was used to describe Cuban exiles in general, and their Cuban-American descendants.
This line simply is not in the article. Just because that guy is lazy and blames everything on "AI" doesn't really give you an excuse for lying, There is also no "previous comment".
"Gusano" is a derogatory term based on politics, not race. It was used by Castro to insult counter-revolutionaries and exiles.
i’m so so very sorry.
No, your condescension does not obscure the weakness of your post.
I have an idea that this guy is more very motivated, so he will make his way back to america just to wreak havoc...yep, he's going to vote for the child rapist again.
I think saying "I told you so" or gloating just makes republicans dig in their heels, but I do think this is a good time to talk to our fellow Americans about why we believe in compassion and restraining law enforcement. Now the man seems to suck politically and that says bad things about who he is, but the story as presented is one where he made some bad choices then turned his life around to improve his community. When someone misreading a file can get you deported that's a problem, when it can get you deported to a country you have no ties to it's a much bigger problem.
We have 4 amendments in the bill of rights about restraining the justice system. The 9th is also relevant here of "just because we clarified these rights doesn't mean you can take rights we didn't specify away.
You spend a lot of your life trying to get out of your bad situation. When you show up in the new place, it's full of people like you, with the same skills. That's how an immigrant gets hot on anti-immigration. They're just in denial on the concentration camps, won't happen to me, I'm a good person, I keep my head down. There's a fine, perhaps even blurry line between selfishness and self-preservation. They chose poorly.
Worst part, I don't know that what's going on changes their mind until it actually happens to them and theirs.
I don't care. It's my family and friends this is happening to, no one deserves this, at some point I'd like to think he realized how deeply ignorant and stupid he was supporting this, but no matter the victim, it's wrong. Wrong is wrong.
I asked him, ‘Why did you even support Trump?’” Monica said. “And he was like, ‘He’s the president. Have faith that things are gonna be different and things are gonna change.’”
Things did change for Monica—but not for th
BAM! Be the change you want to see in the world :)
Question: if we are against deportation of immigrants in general, is it acceptable to report the particular immigrants we don't like so they get deported?
Look, i dont feel sorry for this dumbass, but there is nothing that somebody could do that would justify sending them to a concentration camp that wouldnt also justify hacking them apart via machete. So if you got someone this might apply to: get to da chopper chopping
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N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 174 pts · 284d
Gosh, if only there were some indication that Trump was a racist that hated Hispanic people before Mosquera voted for him.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 284d
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 82 pts · 284d
My wife is Hispanic, and most of her family that doesn't speak English, all love Trump. Apparently, when they translate him speaking into Spanish, they paraphrase everything he says, just to make him sound sane. Her aunt and father would both send her videos, where he's rambling about some stupid, crazy shit, and the Spanish translation is completely different than what's coming out of his mouth. It makes him sound normal.
She's had to explain to them so many times, that what they're hearing, is not what he's actually saying...but when she translates it directly for them, they don't always believe her. Why would they? They can't believe anyone would say that, because it's all nonsense.
They really have no idea just how stupid and dangerous he actually is.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 283d
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 283d
Those translators need to be muted and deafened ya know what shatter their hands irrevocably while your at it. They shouldnt have the ability to lie in such a way.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 284d
I'm not from US, but "I hate mexicans, we have to kick them out, and let's build a wall against them" is pretty self-explanatory, no?
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 284d
You have to understand how many Cubans hate all other Hispanics. They consider themselves white. The "good ones" if you will.
Rakonat@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 283d
It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 283d
Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 283d
Yeah exactly, and it's fucked.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 284d
I’m from the US.
Yes.
jonne@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 284d
There was a lot of talk about 'recent immigrants', while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it 'the right way' and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them.
Obviously it's the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it's basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you're a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally).
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 284d
Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know".
For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 284d
You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it.
Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept.
They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing.
jonne@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 283d
Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies).
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 284d
Read https://www.latinosfortrump.com/
It spells it all out right there in shiny propaganda.
hanrahan@piefed.social · 16 pts · 284d
Politicans lie and misdirect but why take up with the one that says they want to deliberately hurt minorities ? Why becase you're an asshole.
They all had a good look at this freak during 1.0 and choose him...again.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 283d
They literally, openly posted their step by step plan for anyone and everyone to read.
sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 283d
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 283d
Hey look another person who's immune to propaganda. I'm sure you are wrong about something. Massacre at tiannenmen square maybe? Thats always a good one. How about tank man being run over? Hope you got your facts straight!
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 284d
Hispanics are by far the largest immigrant population to the US. When MAGA was chanting and holding signs saying "Mass deportations now", it was obvious that Hispanics would be the ones affected the most since they are the largest group. It's not rocket science.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 284d
Yep, concerted propaganda campaigns. They could not have won if Hispanics were united against Trump.
rayyy@piefed.social · 4 pts · 283d
If only they hadn't let themselves to be immersed in the Republican/Fox information silo.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 283d
"Why did they choose to be propaganda'ed though?"
"Why did the woman let someone assault her?"
"Why did the victim allow themselves to be shot from 300 yards away?"
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 283d
Yeah, we have a few newcomers in the shop here, and conservatives here always tell them it's imperative to vote conservative or they will lose their rights etc... They would have no idea what the implications are if I would not chime in and let them know if they do so they vote for the people who want to kick them out.
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 283d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 283d
we can agree that the system is fucked, even if one of its many victims doesn't invoke empathy.
Imagine if the state randomly picked someone to torture, on occasion it'll get a serial killer pedophile. it does not mean that system works
elleplaster@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 283d
I feel like now, this is how the system works.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 283d
Nah, the current system protects pedophiles
jve@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
“Works”
Jaybird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 282d
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 283d
If he wasn't a citizen, he did not vote for it, but as a pro trumper he sure asked for it.
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 282d
It would be one thing if your vote brought in an administration that only affected you. But obviously, that's not how it works. He voted for the hateful, discriminatory Trump who's been exactly who we see every day on the news and in his own words for the last decade plus. He knew it would negatively affect others, he just assumed he would be left alone as one of the "good one" supporters...
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 44 pts · 284d
Have the life you voted for.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 34 pts · 283d
I don't mind them deporting him, but people should be returned to their home country, not to a life sentence in some notorious torture prison. They entered America illegally, they should be sent home, but that doesn't deserve a life sentence in a dungeon.
And NOBODY should go anywhere without due process first.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 283d
Dude had been in the country for 50 years, married a citizen and had a daughter. I think he's an idiot for being a Trump supporter but the more sensible action would be to let him stay. Entering illegally is a misdemeanor. The president has 34 felonies.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 283d
Those 34 felonies are kid stuff compared to his other crimes, like treason, rape, and pedophilia.
sfgifz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 282d
Everything Jesus died for.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
Yeah but attempted murder is a felony. That said I agree he shouldn't have been deported if he's lived a long and productive life as an American without committing further crimes.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 283d
why does it matter how someone got here? assuming they aren't causing any actual problems I genuinely don't give a fuck if someone's here "legally" or not. I'm only here because I was born here, so I didn't have to do jack shit, why should they?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 283d
I understand keeping track of people entering this country. We can't make it too easy, or every bad person from everywhere would come here, but I also recognize that is a miniscule percentage of actual immigrants. That's why we really need to have due process, because we're probably kicking out a lot of people that would become good taxpaying citizens. But that's all a separate issue.
I'm enormously concerned with this MAGA strategy of sending ANYONE, including criminals, to third countries, and only to those with serious records of human rights abuses, where they will serve life sentences for no crime other than trying to seek a better life for themselves and their families. And it's all done without any lawyers or courts.
Sure, they're just strangers from a strange land, not our problem. But if we let MAGA do it to them, then it's only a matter of time before they do it to the rest of us.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 283d
As an immigrant I think you should examine why you think bad people would come here. It's actually pretty difficult and expensive. Like you can already go on vacation almost anywhere on the planet and people don't- mostly because it's a lot of hassle and money.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 282d
As if we don't have enough shit people in America. I mean, look around! But yeah, all the baddies are coming from outside. 🙄
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 283d
It's supposed to be a prevention measure. Most people aren't gonna take a weapon to a club but you frisk all of them to discourage the one who will. How the US uses it is entirely bonkers.
devolution@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 284d
Beastiality Barbie is at it again.
hanrahan@piefed.social · 18 pts · 284d
BAM! Be the change you want to see in the world /s
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 283d
was he pro trump, or like a badly educated apolitical person who thought the US president was competent and had common sense?
from that quote alone he seems stupid and ignorant.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 284d
Some good has come of this. I support MAGAt deportations.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 283d
he wasn’t deported, he was sent to a maximum security prison that tortures people, for life.
that’s slow motion murder
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 283d
maybe don't support leopard who campaign on eating your face just because you can only orgasms when leopards are eating your neighbours faces.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 283d
wat?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 283d
the guy was in favour of politicians sending his neighbours to foreign torture camps, he can't complain that the people he voted for sent him there.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 283d
huh?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
god you're an annoying troll.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 283d
🤡
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 283d
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 283d
But isn’t that also a very expensive way to murder people? How can they afford a massive system like that?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 283d
well they could take funding from other places?
it’s not a linear plan though… eventually they’ll shift to extermination domestically.
for one i’m sure it’s cheaper per-person, per-day, to imprison someone in a foreign country.
But i think the main motivation right now is just the legal loophole of offshore torture… that and it’s the “flood the zone” strategy (bannon).
After all of the uproar and legal stuff about El Salvador, they shifted to sending people to a whole bunch of other third world dictatorship’s maximum security prisons.
after El Salvador got a lot of press, a lot of other countries probably stepped in and made offers.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 283d
Sounds like there’s also a lot of potential for soviet style gulags, forced labor camps, or basically just slavery. If that’s what USA is offering, many dictatorships would probably be glad to make a deal. Once USA figures out how to have gulgas on their own soil, the expenses will suddenly vanish entirely.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 283d
Brother we've had
slavePrison labor since Russians were serfs.ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 14 pts · 283d
Bella ciao
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 283d
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 283d
He's a cunt who was perfectly happy doing that to other people. I'm not supporting Trump's agenda by taking pleasure in the suffering of someone who actually does. Fuck this guy.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 283d
fuck this guy for sure.
the silver lining is at least he’s being forced to see what he’s been supporting this whole time… but he still doesn’t deserve this.
he’s been on hunger strike for a couple weeks now… fuck this guy but not like, fuck him to death in a torture prison….
i guess it’s the gritty, bloody, reality version of a leopard eating one’s face…
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 283d
He should be allowed to make videos & post them online, just to see the mental gymnastics.
... unless he is somehow still pro mass deportations to random countries that can't say no to USA monies.
quietFisherman@feddit.org · -6 pts · 283d
FridaySteve@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
That's an absolutely terrible opinion.
quietFisherman@feddit.org · -2 pts · 283d
quietFisherman@feddit.org · -3 pts · 283d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 283d
He wanted that to happen to other people.
He does deserve it.
And we can acknowledge that the system is fucked even though by chance it punished a cunt.
id rather no one get deported to concentration camps. but that twat doesn't get to complain.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 283d
Then how will concentration camps make any profits??
Think!!
/s
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
fine, we can send them our billionaires. as a treat
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 283d
With all their combined bootstrap-grabbing capabilities the camp production will soar!!
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
plus, it became a tourist attraction.
don't miss the 1200 whipping of bill gates. or the 1pm feeding of maggoty bread to Elon.
no matter how much we raise prices at the souvenir shop people keep buying.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 283d
When they sell enough overpriced souvenirs the owner of the camp gets to stay in it!!
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 283d
You won't see me lamenting it.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -26 pts · 283d
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 283d
And you're an obtuse twat.
I don't give a rat's ass if it's happening to people who enabled this. Fuck them and fuck you too.
banshee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 283d
Regardless of anything else, I'm cracking up over the argument about
obtuse. How dare you use the English language correctly! 😄ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -15 pts · 283d
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 283d
SippyCup@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 283d
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 283d
Soulg@ani.social · 6 pts · 283d
That doesn't make them a fascist. Just a bad person
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 283d
they are not since ozymandias is full of shit
Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 283d
Just going off of what was said because fascism has a meaning, I have no beef with the other poster
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
you don't care that he's literally lying?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -19 pts · 283d
scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 283d
Everything I don't like is fascism. Go clutch your fucking pearls where someone gives a fuck.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 283d
“pearl clutching” was kinda funny 10 years ago
Soulg@ani.social · 5 pts · 283d
What does this even mean, who said anything about liberals
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 283d
"I don't feel empathy for fascists. who want to send me to a concentration camp"
Ozymandias: wow you must be the real fascist then
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 283d
bullshit: misrepresentation
jve@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
He just rephrased the post he’s replying to. In what way is he misrepresenting your stance?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 283d
Fascist troll doesn't like to be called a fascist troll.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 283d
more bullshit
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · -11 pts · 283d
Hey man, you can't be a reasonable person on the left anymore, didn't you get the memo? The groupthink is now all about screeching for the blood of our Enemies (countrymen). If you don't want every Trump voter taken out back and shot, you aren't welcome in the Revolution™
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 283d
hey don’t start pushing me back to hating everyone….
damn it i’m misanthropic again….
everything cool gets taken over by people just along for the ride
at least there’s still Stoic philosophy keeping it real….
SippyCup@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 283d
Stoicism should not be a shield to guard you from reality. Acknowledge those things that you cannot control, that many people do in fact suck, and focus on the choices you can make. We know people suck, and that history tells us they can suck a whole lot harder. You can accept defeat, tell yourself nothing can be done and resign yourself to whatever consequences may come from that, or?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 283d
that’s a very stoic take on the situation… thanks
viking@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 283d
It's quite funny though. Cool, not so much. But reaping what you sawed? Yeah that's funny as fuck.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 283d
it’s not funny.
torture is not fucking funny
viking@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 283d
Certainly not the act in itself, but wishing bad things on others only to have them happen to yourself? The irony is highly entertaining. Couldn't have happened to a worse person.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 283d
i wish i could be entertained by it, but i just see mentally ill man sent to be tortured to death in small african dictatorship’s max prison… im sure maximum security means nothing there and its just a little slice of hell….
and of course i see: they’re going to send people like us to places like that, pretty soon… if they keep getting away with it.
SippyCup@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 283d
I think a lot of people here are experiencing schadenfreude, and aren't capable of contextualizing that anymore. You're not wrong, not even remotely. Sadly, a bull that's wrong and a bull that's right still butt heads and the heaviest bull will win regardless.
Don't be a bull. Be a matador. (Kinda... Like matadors actually are awful but I hope the metaphor at least comes through) You can guide an angry bull. Ask questions until your point becomes self evident. It's not easy but if you want to move the needle, you can't just be another bull in the ring.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 283d
🎯
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 283d
One reaps what they sow.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 283d
deep
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 283d
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 283d
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
This line simply is not in the article. Just because that guy is lazy and blames everything on "AI" doesn't really give you an excuse for lying, There is also no "previous comment".
"Gusano" is a derogatory term based on politics, not race. It was used by Castro to insult counter-revolutionaries and exiles.
No, your condescension does not obscure the weakness of your post.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 283d
that line was from somewhere else… i give up… do what’s in your heart
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 283d
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 282d
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 282d
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 284d
And he'd probably still vote for him again, regardless.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 283d
I have an idea that this guy is more very motivated, so he will make his way back to america just to wreak havoc...yep, he's going to vote for the child rapist again.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 10 pts · 284d
Plenty of actual Panthera pardus in Africa, so that works out nicely.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 283d
instead of panthera onca found in the americas.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 283d
Personally, I wouldn't object if the jaguars got in on the face-eating party. Lord knows there's plenty of face to go around.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 283d
I think saying "I told you so" or gloating just makes republicans dig in their heels, but I do think this is a good time to talk to our fellow Americans about why we believe in compassion and restraining law enforcement. Now the man seems to suck politically and that says bad things about who he is, but the story as presented is one where he made some bad choices then turned his life around to improve his community. When someone misreading a file can get you deported that's a problem, when it can get you deported to a country you have no ties to it's a much bigger problem.
We have 4 amendments in the bill of rights about restraining the justice system. The 9th is also relevant here of "just because we clarified these rights doesn't mean you can take rights we didn't specify away.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 283d
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 283d
Imagine being so vote-cucked that you endorse concentration camps.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 282d
You spend a lot of your life trying to get out of your bad situation. When you show up in the new place, it's full of people like you, with the same skills. That's how an immigrant gets hot on anti-immigration. They're just in denial on the concentration camps, won't happen to me, I'm a good person, I keep my head down. There's a fine, perhaps even blurry line between selfishness and self-preservation. They chose poorly.
Worst part, I don't know that what's going on changes their mind until it actually happens to them and theirs.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 282d
Concentration camps that they get to visit. On a permanent basis.
ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf · 8 pts · 283d
These pro trumper minorities should get it worse for being so stupid. You literally said YES go your own persecution, so don't cry now.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 283d
I don't wish this on anyone no matter how stupid they are. He also was likely beaten and tortured.
Eh_I@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 283d
Look at it this way, somebody else didn't get deported so that this guy could could have a seat on the plane .
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 282d
I don't care. It's my family and friends this is happening to, no one deserves this, at some point I'd like to think he realized how deeply ignorant and stupid he was supporting this, but no matter the victim, it's wrong. Wrong is wrong.
Chivera@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 284d
🎶🎶Oh my God! I will vote, for Donald Trump! 🎶🎶 Bet he was singing that song.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 283d
LOLOL!!! Zero sympathy. Krasnov will melt his gold rings and watch for his fucking Russia Ballroom.
hanrahan@piefed.social · 3 pts · 284d
BAM! Be the change you want to see in the world :)
pyre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 282d
dude you had mosque in your name, you were gonna be targeted one way or another
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
adios gusano
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 283d
Sending minorities to concentration camps?
Well at least a few libs got a laugh out of it... jfc.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 283d
Question: if we are against deportation of immigrants in general, is it acceptable to report the particular immigrants we don't like so they get deported?
Twongo@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 283d
"it's fine if the nazis send people i don't like into camps"
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 283d
But in the above cases you’re ironically getting rid of nazi supporters.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 283d
This comm in a nutshell.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 283d
Obviously not
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 283d
fuck no.
I get using the tools they are creating against them. but this isn't it.
Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 283d
Look, i dont feel sorry for this dumbass, but there is nothing that somebody could do that would justify sending them to a concentration camp that wouldnt also justify hacking them apart via machete. So if you got someone this might apply to: get to da
chopperchoppingAlwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
I mean. Someone's getting sent to the camp regardless.