Bannon Tells GOP: 'Seize the Institutions' of Government Now or We're 'Going to Prison' After 2028
https://www.commondreams.org/news/bannon-tells-gop-seize-the-institutions-of-government-now-or-we-re-going-to-prison-after-2028
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kescusay@lemmy.world · 185 pts · 281d
Alternate headline: Bannon tells GOP they've been doing just an absolute fuckton of crimes.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
Crimes which current democrats will ignore in the name of making peace.
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com · 114 pts · 281d
Maybe if you didn't do a bunch of blatently illegal/immoral shit that could solve the whole prison issue too?
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 110 pts · 281d
Prison? I was hoping for public executions
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 44 pts · 281d
aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social · 9 pts · 281d
Good, I was worried we'd be dwelling on the past
drhodl@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Phew! I thought you were going to offer thoughts and prayers.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 281d
Me too. The catharis from seeing the moment of shock and fear just as the guillotine's blade touches the skin on their neck will make all of this worth it.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 280d
I was hoping more for a Mussolini style upside down hanging in public where anyone who wishes to can desecrate their corpses.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 280d
The Ceaușescu look if you will
Lenny@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 281d
Upvoted this and it was the 47th one. Feels good
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 281d
That's a coup right? That sounds a LOT like a coup.
derry@midwest.social · 30 pts · 281d
It's only a coup if it happens in the coup region of the world. Otherwise it's just sparkling facism
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d
It's technically not a coup since the US Citizens voted them into power in order to do this.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 281d
Ahh. Just hitler vibes then.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 12 pts · 281d
You can coup democratic rule. The rulers of America, in the theory of republican liberalism, being the voters (though you could also laugh at that assertion it has theoretical principles on its side if not reality)
blattrules@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 281d
If you have to change the way the country works so you don’t go to prison, you should already be there.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 281d
The guy is admitting to planning a coup; he's a terrorist.
Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 281d
Technically that's treason, so he's a traitor (unless you're saying he's that and a terrorist, in which case nevermind)
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 281d
And still nobody is gonna stop him
aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 281d
Don’t threaten us with a good time, Steve.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 49 pts · 281d
Don't worry Bannon, Democrat leadership doesn't exactly have the best track record of holding criminals and actual enemies of the people accountable for their crimes.
overthere@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 281d
Exactly. I’ll eat my hat if any of the key people gave any consequences at all when all this is over. It will be all, “we have to look forward, not backward.” I wouldn’t be shocked if an elected Democratic president pardoned Trump and his goons so that we can “heal as a nation.”
asRomeBurns1979@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 280d
Garland’s understandable desire to appear a-political in the Jan 6th and Trump cases will be a stick the left use to beat the moderates in the Democrat party for decades, and rightly so.
If Garland hadn’t wasted 15 months working from the bottom (rioters) up Trump would probably be in prison now. I think he was well intentioned but didn’t have the bottle to be the guy who put the wheels in motion for banging up a President.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
He was a republican, and that's why he dragged his feet for 4 years. It was either too hard for him, or he was one of them all along. In either case, a complete fail of a man, who deserves all the contempt and loathing that I have for him. Garland is the reason we have Donny 2 Inches as president, and not in jail where he actually belongs. History should have Garland right up there with Benedict Arnold.
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 280d
We're going to have to demand they do. When the time comes, we cannot let it go. We must insist these people face justice. Be as annoying about it as we are about the Epstein files.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 281d
The only good outcome is a revolution and starting the Untied States over from scratch
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 280d
No revolution, but you really need reforms to the power structure and the way elections work. Starting with the current division of presidential power between a Prime Minister (or Chancellor) and a President. If you already had this separation of powers, you would never have been paralysed the way you are now; if representatives failed to reach an agreement to approve the 2026 federal budget proposed by the prime minister, the president would simply dismiss the government and call for new elections.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 280d
Who's "you"? I'm Canadian
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 280d
Right, so it's easy for you to suggest complete destruction of the United States.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 280d
Ah, it's really easy to wish for the destruction of other people's countries.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
The Donny 2 Inches government is fucking the entire world, mate. The whole world wishes this destruction on you, at this time. Elect better people, stop being run by and for criminals, and stop fucking over other countries and their people, maybe?
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
I'm not American either. That's why I first said "you" instead of "we".
I assumed the other guy was American and you assumed I was American, quite funny, isn't it? 🤣
drhodl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
The internet knows no borders lol.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 281d
very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 281d
This is what I thought during the first term, and yet... here we are again
manxu@piefed.social · 45 pts · 281d
The core message seems to be: since Trump is doing everything by executive order, the next time a Democrat holds the office of the presidency, ALL of it will be undone. And some of it, in his view, will be declared illegal in the first place. Like, I don't know, the DOGE takeover early in the year. Or the imprisonment of citizens and legal immigrants because racism.
Biden didn't do any of it. He didn't even push for the Trump tax cuts from 2017 to be undone, which was insane. I sense that's part of the reason Harris lost in 2024, and it seems that the Democrats of 2025 are starting to smell the wind of change. Because the country and the voters forced them to.
I was horrified in 2022 when both Biden and Yellen went on the record stating they believed the high inflation was just temporary and not a larger concern. This time around it's Trump telling America prices are down and the economy is booming.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 281d
You mean the people who betrayed America and let hundred of thousand of Americans needlessly die in the pandemic?
Then cut aid to foreign governments so they could bail out their authoritarian friends causing hundreds of thousands more people around the world to die needlessly?
Dragomus@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 281d
When by a miracle the upcoming 2026 voting fraud and roadblocks will be undone, and 2028's election is fair and brings a FULL landslide democratic win.
Then the Democrats must go full in on a blaze of justice and condemn everyone in the current administration, including local government, think-tanks and anyone who enriched themselves unfairly, as conspirators in an evil coup to convict them with the highest penalties.
If they do not ... the country will be lost in a prolonged smouldering fire of fascism.
A "national pardon" to keep the balance is not a proper solution to this.
But, read what I started with and you'll see there are enormous hurdles to overcome, I am not convinced the current administration will let any of it happen.
The king in all but name is already here, and 2028 will likely have seen the crowning ceremony.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 281d
This would literally be a miracle.
I expect we go straight to “only look forward, not backwards.” Let’s face it, there are a lot of establishment dems in those Epstein files too whom they’d rather not prosecute.
Both parties need to be discarded if regular Americans are to have any hope. Get rid of the donor-run uniparty, banish first past the post, disband the electoral college, and restore the fairness doctrine for news media broadcast license eligibility, and maybe…
zbyte64@awful.systems · 9 pts · 281d
If there's a Ranked Choice initiative/group in your area please volunteer. This will give us the most bang for your time to get away from this duopoly. I say if because some states have banned RCV. That's how scared they are.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 281d
But prosecuting these criminals would be political/s
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 30 pts · 281d
These people have been gleefully plotting to form hunting parties to track and murder minorities and anyone who’s against their agenda. Prison would be too lenient.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 281d
It's not "those who will be targeted," it's those who broke the law. How is it that a group can claim they should arrest and detain/deport people for filling out a piece of paper wrong 14 years ago that had nothing to do with fraud, embezzlement, or hurting anyone. Just trying to work a 9-5 and provide for their families, yet this group can turn around and support people who are openly admitting they have committed crimes and should commit more while asking others to commit crimes to stay out of prison in the future.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 281d
Yeah, but did they do this while being brown?
cmbabul@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 280d
Bannon is a piece of shit ghoul but of MAGAs most influential assholes he’s ones of the few that has enough guile to understand what will happen if they somehow lose the gambit they’ve embarked upon. Things are only going to escalate from here after the big loses they suffered Tuesday and as the economy continues to ride a unicycle on a 2x4 across the Grand Canyon
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 280d
I wonder if Bannon and trump internally refer to this future state as being Bolsonaro'd.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 279d
The system will not deliver justice. People's justice might not be as kind as what Bolsonaro's getting.
locahosr443@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
I found the book mindfuck so interesting listening through who bannon was when the guy first met him and the journey to what he became.
We tend to assume these pieces of shit were always as bad as they currently are, so listening to stories like that are quite valuable to understanding how we get to where we are/were. The way this kind of awful can grow in the right person.
MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 280d
If a 2028 Democratic presidential candidate has any platform other than arresting Republican figureheads, I will not support them. Lawbreakers and criminals belong in prison.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 280d
I'll be honest, I would not have had the left campaigning on "lock him up" but I'm not sure there can be any other option.
If they cop out with some unity bullshit it will just happen again in 4 years when people forget or decide they need a change or whatever.
Yay 2 party systems.
atmorous@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
Both lock them up and make america better should be campaign. With all the specifics of course
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 280d
at this rate i don't think there is going to be a 2028 election or a democratic party.
KAYDUBELL@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 281d
lol traitors don’t get the luxury of prison.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 281d
Can some of these fuckers start going to prison in 2026?
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 281d
Or sooner
CptOblivius@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 280d
They will be pardoned if before then.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 280d
We award you no points. In your rant you mentioned Steve Bannon once. Like so many others that suffer from "Trump derangement syndrome." You veered off topic to relate everything to Trump. And now im talking about him again dang it. I dont like it either.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
Okay? I said he mentioned Bannon once
ameancow@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 280d
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
Omgoodness... oh precious.
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Im actually gas lighting you.bim my original comment i said that he(shezilla) didn't mention Steve Bannon, but then I edited my comment to say that he(shezilla) mentioned him once. But I hadnt... I dunno... im a self doubting asshole.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 280d
It's a good thing for them that I don't get to make the decisions, because prison would not be what I decide.
Noturbuddy@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 280d
fox2263@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 281d
A perfectly normal thing to say
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 280d
What a Treasonous Pig. I hope his bacon gets fried
ikidd@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d
Oh, Steve. If there's any justice in the world, you'll never see the inside of a prison. Just the inside of a blindfold.
MajinBlayze@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d
I've never agreed more with Steve Bannon. Unfortunately I don't think Dems have the balls
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 281d
I demand Trump and his cronies be arrested
ohmy_science@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 280d
We will need de trump-ification like denazification in 1945 Germany
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 280d
I don't trust the democrats to hold these genocidal maniacs accountable at all
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 281d
Oh he thinks he's only getting prison?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 4 pts · 281d
Sadly yes but he will die there so 🤷♂️
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 281d
Dancing to the jailhouse rock!
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 280d
That statement seems treasonous. Where is Efrem Zimbalist Jr. when you need him?
Desistance@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 281d
They know
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 281d
Some of you are going to prison again regardless...
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 281d
Evil really ages people like milk
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 281d
Why would the Party of Law and Order go to Prison? That's for CRIMINALS which I was Told by Fox News they WERENT?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 280d
Wow, saying the quiet part out loud, eh?
AlexLost@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 280d
They have been full mask off for a while now if you've been paying attention.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 280d
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 280d
They are never going to prison. Democrats would never imprison their only chance to win against.
Zink@programming.dev · 0 pts · 280d
Oh man, could you imagine if THAT was how Trump ran for another term?
Democrats: Surely our fellow americans wouldn't repeat-repeat-repeat vote for him! We can compromise to pass the "We Can Keep The Best Presidents As Long As We Want And It Is Temporarily Legal To Drink Water Without Asking Nestle" bill!
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 281d
And rightfully they will go to prison.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 280d
He doesn't need to worry, there won't be a democratic win in a big election ever again.
And even IF for some miracle it would happen, they are so milquetoast that they would probably give out blanket immunity "for the sake of not dividing the nation further"
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 280d
It really depends on what happens with Democrat leadership over the next few years. If enough progressives manage to actually wrest control from the octogenarians, including by means of winning primaries like Mamdani, then we may see greater interest in some degree of accountability. Whether that's prison time or something else, who knows.
atmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
It depends not just on them but how many people get active and get others active to do too. Thats what will get the people to win
atmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Even so many progressive democrats still won. We just need to make sure ways to votes are not tampered with and to not using the voting machines they bought
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 278d
That's so cute that you think you have any way of doing that.
atmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 278d
Seriously? Many people are getting things done. You need more hope & to see the reality that we are kicking their asses regardless of any setbacks.
"Do you want a better world or not?" is the fundamental question. If you enjoy life, life with other people, and people making things for us all to enjoy that is new/better maintain what we already have then you should want people to succeed in every way.
More people get active by the day as well.
Read up on goodgoodgood.co hope articles
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 278d
does this have a !RemindMe in 3 years bot?
don't think so, but would be nice to return to this then and see who was more right (besides the american president. ha ha. because, right. get it? Ok, leaving now. bye.)
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 280d
That bastard sez a lot of things. That's all he does.
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
He right that "the other side" is getting more extreme, and also that his side is responding in an extreme manner as such.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 280d
The other side of the Confederates are getting more extreme? I see him claiming the opposition to Pedonald are "radical" (lol), I don't even know what that means? Maybe that some Democrats came back to a more central position from being basically moderate Republicans?
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 280d
Dear Lord, I pray that democrats do come more center, I might could -and honestly want to- call my self a Democrat again.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 280d
More center after shifting to the right, year after year, for a few decades?
It'd be nice to have a party that represented where most Americans poll on key issues.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
The Overton window has shifted so far that any candidate you're thinking of is on the right, so what were you saying again.
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 280d
I was sayin', I was standing here in the middle here, then all of a sudden im getting called a nazi and I think its bullshit.
0ndead@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 279d
You misspelled gallows Steve
atmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
So what he's saying is that the people are kicking ass. Don't threaten me with a good time!
Everybody keep being active and getting others active too!!
The more of us doing the easier it makes it for us all to get more done, to succeed more, & to win more.
Let's show them what the people can do together. Making the USA what it should have been after all these years.
Hope is Powerful!! Strength in Unity!! Power to the People!!!
psoul@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 280d
Reminds me of the October revolution a bit, Lenin screaming to seize power now (that the provisional government is weak)
daannii@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 279d
Fyi, death by guillotine is actually incredibly ethical and humane.
Infact, in modern research, rats that are used in research and then killed are done so via a guillotine.
A friend was a pharmacologist researcher and told me that they gave them a little ketamine so they were out of it then cut their heads off. It's quick. They die within a few seconds.
Contrary to popular belief. Breaking the neck or even cutting it through does not result in instant death. Only paralysis. Though severed head is faster death. (Fastest death is obliteration of brain stem).
Many of the nerves that control the face actually run down into the neck and enter the spine there. So cutting off the head, at the base of the skull, also paralyzes the face.
It's sort of how people think that since fish can't scream they don't feel pain. That's stupid.
Just cause the head can't scream, Don't mean it's dead. I suspect that's why so many think breaking someone's neck or cutting off their head is "instant". It's definitely "certain death" but it's not instant.
It takes a little bit of time for oxygen to be deprived from the brain enough to cause unconscious and then death.
Breaking the neck or severing the head isn't immediate death. Someone with a broken neck (even if it causes face nerves to be severed) may stay alive/conscience up to a minute or two. Just paralyzed. Knowing they can't breathe. Knowing death is coming.
Terrifying.
So the gallows it is for the traitors.
I think we can agree only some of them deserve the guillotine.